There needs to be Jazbaat and Laat to maintain Santulan - Page 2

Originally posted by: Bodhianveshika

They say: Spare the rod and spoil the child.

Toh jaha jazbaat insaan ko sahi par chalne ke liye prerit karte hain, wahi apne sahi galat karmon ke parinaam ka darr use sahi raah par chalne ki prerana deta hain.

So, while we need a Haseena Mallik to drive the change, we need a Karishma Singh to control it and direct it.

Many a times, it is the fear of consequences that drives one to do the right thing.

It is like mind and heart, one needs both to live.

Originally posted by: Krish58

Agreed. Well I am new on this forum actually just checked this forum because of chandramukhi chautalA.You know right from beginning I have never liked the concept of last vs jajzbaat See don’t get me wrong but sometimes I do feel like it would have been better if karishma and haseena were appointed two thanas. One for each then it would have been better like log dono thane me in hate hai fir likane.And frankly I have left show jab we inlogo ne character butcher start kiya hai..now I just see clips and decide if I should watch show or not. Back to this whole last vs jazbaat thing..right from starting haseena and her way are right dikhaya hai and People of station being helping haseena and her way more .infact in majority of cases last moment PE raita phail jaate hai If they go haseena way and it’s karishma and her way which saves them at last moment. And in some cases I do prefer ki criminals are given punishment like that Eve teasing case where karishma was going to beat the boys with bat but was stopped by haseena. Infact that whole case I was sad that they had shown that case was solved by haseena way. Those guys should have get some beatings.. from karishma .And there many situations where the thane people were with haseena way when karishma needed support from her thane to solve case. Like pushpaji openly supporting haseena and comparing karishma and saying that you can never become like haseena. It was so hurtful. Plus even now in this mission matter they have killed the main essence of karishma .by making her look like dumb or even more showing karishma solving cases like haseena way..yaar karishma ke essence ko uske main character ko usse Alag Karke Kya dikhana chahte hai cvs.?Infact this was the time and moment where makers would have shown that how better karishma handles chowki with both last and jazbaat. If you guys have watched FIR old episodes then you may know how many times they have shown situations where in chandramukhi chautalas absence or when chandramukhi chautalA was in danger it was shown by makers very beautifully and comically that how her team that have been able to solve cases or help chandramukhi to come out of danger. And infact they never did drag such cases for two months or like. Max 5 episodes and then new case shuru. At this point I really wish writers get some sense and do some improvements first by closing this mission case . And focus on bringing small cases and giving equal chance and importance to every character

welcome to the forum! I agree with what you have mentioned. most of us here are annoyed too with the way this case has been handled. FIR had its own essence and charm to it that's for sure.

Originally posted by: Krish58

Agreed. Well I am new on this forum actually just checked this forum because of chandramukhi chautalA.You know right from beginning I have never liked the concept of last vs jajzbaat See don’t get me wrong but sometimes I do feel like it would have been better if karishma and haseena were appointed two thanas. One for each then it would have been better like log dono thane me in hate hai fir likane.And frankly I have left show jab we inlogo ne character butcher start kiya hai..now I just see clips and decide if I should watch show or not. Back to this whole last vs jazbaat thing..right from starting haseena and her way are right dikhaya hai and People of station being helping haseena and her way more .infact in majority of cases last moment PE raita phail jaate hai If they go haseena way and it’s karishma and her way which saves them at last moment. And in some cases I do prefer ki criminals are given punishment like that Eve teasing case where karishma was going to beat the boys with bat but was stopped by haseena. Infact that whole case I was sad that they had shown that case was solved by haseena way. Those guys should have get some beatings.. from karishma .And there many situations where the thane people were with haseena way when karishma needed support from her thane to solve case. Like pushpaji openly supporting haseena and comparing karishma and saying that you can never become like haseena. It was so hurtful. Plus even now in this mission matter they have killed the main essence of karishma .by making her look like dumb or even more showing karishma solving cases like haseena way..yaar karishma ke essence ko uske main character ko usse Alag Karke Kya dikhana chahte hai cvs.?Infact this was the time and moment where makers would have shown that how better karishma handles chowki with both last and jazbaat. If you guys have watched FIR old episodes then you may know how many times they have shown situations where in chandramukhi chautalas absence or when chandramukhi chautalA was in danger it was shown by makers very beautifully and comically that how her team that have been able to solve cases or help chandramukhi to come out of danger. And infact they never did drag such cases for two months or like. Max 5 episodes and then new case shuru. At this point I really wish writers get some sense and do some improvements first by closing this mission case . And focus on bringing small cases and giving equal chance and importance to every character

Welcome to the forum.

Yes, interesting perspectives. We ALL agree there is no single way to solve cases and some crimes are unpardonable by any measure of jazbaat or reform like molestation, human trafficking. The culprit need to be bought to book. Laws need to be firmed up.

Originally posted by: Bodhianveshika

They say: Spare the rod and spoil the child.

Toh jaha jazbaat insaan ko sahi par chalne ke liye prerit karte hain, wahi apne sahi galat karmon ke parinaam ka darr use sahi raah par chalne ki prerana deta hain.

So, while we need a Haseena Mallik to drive the change, we need a Karishma Singh to control it and direct it.

Many a times, it is the fear of consequences that drives one to do the right thing.

It is like mind and heart, one needs both to live.

Originally posted by: vyoman

True.

Originally posted by: Anee2

You don't know how happy I am to see this topic being brought up! I've felt the same ever since I started watching the show with my mom. They have hyped up 'jazzbaat' so so much that I started thinking there's something wrong with me for wanting the 'bhaukaal'. Like I could relate to Karishma's emotions so much that Haseena's taunts and lectures felt like a personal attack. I'm so glad to know that not everyone in the audience buys into this jazbaat brainwashing!

Originally posted by: Krish58

Agreed. Well I am new on this forum actually just checked this forum because of chandramukhi chautalA.You know right from beginning I have never liked the concept of last vs jajzbaat See don’t get me wrong but sometimes I do feel like it would have been better if karishma and haseena were appointed two thanas. One for each then it would have been better like log dono thane me in hate hai fir likane.And frankly I have left show jab we inlogo ne character butcher start kiya hai..now I just see clips and decide if I should watch show or not. Back to this whole last vs jazbaat thing..right from starting haseena and her way are right dikhaya hai and People of station being helping haseena and her way more .infact in majority of cases last moment PE raita phail jaate hai If they go haseena way and it’s karishma and her way which saves them at last moment. And in some cases I do prefer ki criminals are given punishment like that Eve teasing case where karishma was going to beat the boys with bat but was stopped by haseena. Infact that whole case I was sad that they had shown that case was solved by haseena way. Those guys should have get some beatings.. from karishma .And there many situations where the thane people were with haseena way when karishma needed support from her thane to solve case. Like pushpaji openly supporting haseena and comparing karishma and saying that you can never become like haseena. It was so hurtful. Plus even now in this mission matter they have killed the main essence of karishma .by making her look like dumb or even more showing karishma solving cases like haseena way..yaar karishma ke essence ko uske main character ko usse Alag Karke Kya dikhana chahte hai cvs.?Infact this was the time and moment where makers would have shown that how better karishma handles chowki with both last and jazbaat. If you guys have watched FIR old episodes then you may know how many times they have shown situations where in chandramukhi chautalas absence or when chandramukhi chautalA was in danger it was shown by makers very beautifully and comically that how her team that have been able to solve cases or help chandramukhi to come out of danger. And infact they never did drag such cases for two months or like. Max 5 episodes and then new case shuru. At this point I really wish writers get some sense and do some improvements first by closing this mission case . And focus on bringing small cases and giving equal chance and importance to every character

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Hey all just to let you know..the director hemant sir I guess will be on leave for long time most probably.becahse he is shooting for Gujarati movie as of now.He is one of the leads the movie 'chal Mann jitva Jai ae 2' .and i saw the shooting for movie has started.So he won't be available for sometime i think.By the way do watch Chal Mann jitva Jai ae .it has subtitles .so you will be able understand the movie.The main leads in show are krish bhardwaj (tenali Rama of tenali Raman show on sab tv and hemant sir )

Correct they have made haseena a Sitara channel type lead..which is not good.no one is perfect .So it would have been better if haseena had flaws .and she accepting her flaws .would have made show much. And in this sense i like karishma because she knows her flaws and openly said it too..accepted her mistakes and apologised in front of everyone. If she makes mistakes you know it takes lot of guts ,strength and burning down your ego to accept your mistakes and apologise when you are on higher post And thats why I love karishma more than haseena.Haseena no doubt is good but she is too flawless and that something i can't digest.

Sorry, to once again bringing comparision of FIR here but I have too.I have always thought that karishma if she gains higher post in future then I can see somewhere in near future her character being a similar to chandramukhi .because now karishma thinks and takes her steps and actions according to situation like mixture of both alittle more of laat +jazbaat.and it was what chandramukhi did.She used to do both laat +jazbaat according to cases and more of laat was included .Infact she had many flaws and accepted it.

And their are so many episodes where the cases and episodes were focused on each character in FIR rather than on one person.

For haseena i can't see say that .because she preferred more jazbaat which is really not good in certain cases.and infact it's never shown in show that haseena hears to her subordinate ideas or her junior ideas and try to apply it.See it's here writers problem .They need to show that haseena also listen to subordinates and considers their ideas .here they have shown only one way communication and not two way communication.

Their is a couplet i read somewhere ,its perfect for haseena .

" kabhi kabar rishto ko sambhalne ke liye jhukna padta hai, warna akad(stiff) toh murde bhi hote hai"

No doubt the whole thana respects haseena and they mostly prefer to go her way.but is her way has lead any growth in other characters ??no i don't think so.

So i really think better writers start showing some flaws or haseena hearing others idea..Warna their will be no growth of haseena and people will really get bored of her character.

Originally posted by: rinki_99

welcome to the forum! I agree with what you have mentioned. most of us here are annoyed too with the way this case has been handled. FIR had its own essence and charm to it that's for sure.

Sahi mein infact ..many cases mein karishma was far more better than haseena way. Especially those. Eve tease cases where a good beating is really required first rather than understanding or morally correcting them because koi bhi insaan ek jhatke mein uski aatama sudhar nahi jaati it needs fear too

Originally posted by: rinki_99

welcome to the forum! I agree with what you have mentioned. most of us here are annoyed too with the way this case has been handled. FIR had its own essence and charm to it that's for sure.

Sahi mein infact ..many cases mein karishma was far more better than haseena way. Especially those. Eve tease cases where a good beating is really required first rather than understanding or morally correcting them because koi bhi insaan ek jhatke mein uski aatama sudhar nahi jaati it needs fear too

Originally posted by: rinki_99

welcome to the forum! I agree with what you have mentioned. most of us here are annoyed too with the way this case has been handled. FIR had its own essence and charm to it that's for sure.

Sahi mein infact ..many cases mein karishma was far more better than haseena way. Especially those. Eve tease cases where a good beating is really required first rather than understanding or morally correcting them because koi bhi insaan ek jhatke mein uski aatama sudhar nahi jaati it needs fear too