Arylie Discussion Thread 35 🧿, DT Warning pg 26 - Page 72

Originally posted by: lovereading14

I just finished watching the episode, and my perspective has change quite a bit from what it was when I read the WU and I don't really agree with you here.

My heart didn't break for Imlie because it wasn't a 'I will hit you irrespective situation' it was rather a 'we can do this the easy way or the hard way' situation.

Aryan was not going to let her destroy her life. She could have shoved the deal back in his face, said she didn't care in what happened to AKT and that she will not pay the price for the war between them. But she made it her life's mission to interfere and if she was doing it now she will do it again and ASR won't let her write of her own life.

So Imlie chose to be hale mary like she always does. Aryan is the one who gave up 4 years worth of blood sweat and tears. He is the one that gave up on the reason he had been breathing so that he could protect the woman he had come to love from going on a complete self destruct mode. Aryan is the one who let go fo everything to protect Imlie.

Imlie's hero complex was there even today, her hesitation was there because she knows that there is very little faith in her when it comes to 'her family'. The hesitation was because this marriage is according to her not coming out of choice. But she has a choice. She has a choice to save herself but she is too busy self destructing.

Aryan knows what she wants, but she NEVER does what she wants. She has dreams and aspirations but she throws them all out of the window at Aparna's every beck and call. Imlie knows what she wants for herself but she sacrifices it all for the whims and fancies of the T-party.

She is being saved because she doesn't know what she is doing to herself by being this mahaan murat. It is not ASR's job to appease her. Even in his vision of imlie's possible future he saw her as a 'tripathi' and 'imlie from pagdandiya' not as Imlie Aryan Rathore because that is how selfless he is. He wants her to pursue her dreams and stand up on her own two feet. No matter if she loves him or not.

It is Imlie who yet again failed her own self because all the speeches and bhaashans, the entire 'sorry imlie' speech was for nothing. She apologised to herself for not keeping herself first and yet she does that all over again

Uhmm..we are on the same page. That's what I was trying to say..albeit differently. She is trapped in her mind. In her mind, she equates Aryans deal to be a nuksaan/ punishment/suffering.

I feel pity for her..cuz I have seen this behavior IRL.Doesnt mean I agree with the actions. But I feel sorry for the character.

Aryan may be doing for the greater good. That to you and me is clear. Not to her. That's why I would have preferred if Aryan put forth the fake shaadi thingy. Cuz to her..it was him yielding his power. The equation is skewed. As I said, she has all the answers..she just have to match it with the questions..Unless she introspection, how is she gonna differentiate between good and bad?

That's why I question why isn't Meethi in the picture?

Originally posted by: _AmyChoco_

Uhmm..we are on the same page. That's what I was trying to say..albeit differently. She is trapped in her mind. In her mind, she equates Aryans deal to be a nuksaan/ punishment/suffering.

I feel pity for her..cuz I have seen this behavior IRL.Doesnt mean I agree with the actions. But I feel sorry for the character.

Aryan may be doing for the greater good. That to you and me is clear. Not to her. That's why I would have preferred if Aryan put forth the fake shaadi thingy. Cuz to her..it was him yielding his power. The equation is skewed. As I said, she has all the answers..she just have to match it with the questions..Unless she introspection, how is she gonna differentiate between good and bad?

That's why I question why isn't Meethi in the picture?

I know that in its essence we mean the same thing. But I don't feel sorry for her and neither do I place the burden on Aryan to appease Imlie.

Imlie may not be able to see Aryan's motive and has lost all faith in him. That's fine, I don't blame her for losing faith, I would have too. But choosing self destruct is her repeated choice, and faulting Aryan for that choice is wrong.

Him yielding his power... to destroy Adi. She had a great individual friendship with that man but she changed the equation because of what he did to a third person. Imlie shouldn't place herself in the centre of this but the day she leaves her hero complex that is the day the sun would rise from the west.

Meethi and Satyakkam are characters that appear based on storyline convenience. There is too much drama here for the writers to want to share screen time for a Imlie - Meethi convo 🤪

Originally posted by: _AmyChoco_

Atif bhau & co. gimme a break . *gasps for air * Waves of disappointment drowning me.

As much as today's episode was an absolute meh, my heart broke for Imlie today.

Aryan's advice however useful it may be.. just sounded hollow to me.

It's like a teacher telling a kid "I am gonna hit you. You have the choice. You can set the T & Cs. But I am gonna hit you." It doesn't matter if this is gonna beneficial to the kid in the long run, but the fact is she is going to feel pain...for no reason of hers. (In Imlie's head, this is between both the As..so why is she suffering)

I so wished that it was Aryan who put forth the fake marriage condition..you know just to appease her.

I had mentioned this a couple of days back.. For Imlie, the relationship with Adi has broken. This, she has repeatedly said. But she hasn't processed..what next? When Adi proposed marriage, she was in a tight spot. Do I forgive him/ do I give him a chance/ do I move on? As much as she wanted the Malini PF, she didn't do it so Adi comes back. She wanted to prove herself right. I don't think she expected Adi crawling back the next moment...

Her hesitation today..I saw it more like..what would 'my family' think of me? It isn't the matter of self respect at this point, it is more of 'what if I fail in protecting them? Will they still love me? Am I a disappointment to them '

And this is why , Imlie categorises people as white or black. The grey terrifies her. She saw a different side to her friend/mentor..and she found herself at the losing end. Even with Adi, a different side was shown in contrast to what she expected, she lost there too. Back in PD, it was her own villagers.. that showed a different face..she lost there too. The same with Malini..

It's funny..since she keeps Meethi in the loop, why didn't she consult with her mum? Why take such a decision?

Noone has asked her..tu kya chahti hai..She hasn't asked that herself. Then how is she expected to help herself? It isn't a simple matter of absorbing Aryan's teachings and implementing them. She has all the answers..she is still deciding which answer is to which question.

Spot on. I hate the farce of a choice put in front of Imlie because it really wasn't a choice at all. It's a choice between sacrificing herself up for the sake of her family's happiness, versus prioritizing herself and living with the knowledge that she could have stopped it, but she let an innocent man take the fall for a mistake he didn't make and let the family suffer. There really wasn't a choice for her there, because of the kind of person she is, and Aryan knew it and played to that. Sorta wish he hadn't sermonized about choice there because it rang false.

And it's kinda heartbreaking because no matter which way she chose, the most dependable relationship she had, which she had felt so solid in, is also on such shaky ground (from her perspective- we know how reliable Aryan is and his good intent, but he's letting her believe the worst and she is currently doubting everything). Heart broke for how...lonely and defeated she looked today. Wayyyy too much trauma this one 19 year old has had in her life. Uff.

Aditya/Imlie stuff I legit think they're dropping lollipops to retain all factions of the fandom because the way she instinctively cringes away from him...yeah she doesn't love him, don't see that at all.

TBH I've managed to kinda make peace with it because, like you said NO ONE INCLUDING IMLIE is thinking about what Imlie wants, so at least someone (Aryan) is thinking about what she needs. Weaksauce reasoning but it is what it is. (Daily prayer to Sita Maiyya- Iss gaddhi ko ittu si hi sahi, sadbuddhi de do)

Apart from Aryan's character, it was Sumbul's portrayal of chirpiness which endeared me to the show, so I hope we get madcap Imlie again soon, not the dead eyes exhausted girl we saw today 🥺

Originally posted by: lovereading14

I know that in its essence we mean the same thing. But I don't feel sorry for her and neither do I place the burden on Aryan to appease Imlie.

Imlie may not be able to see Aryan's motive and has lost all faith in him. That's fine, I don't blame her for losing faith, I would have too. But choosing self destruct is her repeated choice, and faulting Aryan for that choice is wrong.

Him yielding his power... to destroy Adi. She had a great individual friendship with that man but she changed the equation because of what he did to a third person. Imlie shouldn't place herself in the centre of this but the day she leaves her hero complex that is the day the sun would rise from the west.

Meethi and Satyakkam are characters that appear based on storyline convenience. There is too much drama here for the writers to want to share screen time for a Imlie - Meethi convo 🤪

I agree, that's why the show is called Imlie, not Imlie and Aditya, or Imlie and Aryan, right. It's going to be about HER journey back to love and faith and trust. It will be about the mistakes she makes in trusting the wrong people (Aditya and Tripathis and Malini). It will be about her coming to understand Aryan...and her finally bringing Aryan to a point where he can forgive Aditya. If Imlie was written consistently, I do think a conversation with Meethi or Satyakaam would have made it less likely for 1) the Arylie wedding happening at all OR 2) her being less sad about marrying Aryan (real or fake)

Originally posted by: SundariP

his contribution to his girls is only sperm.... rest its the mothers... so lol not surprised

Oh my Pooja 🙈🙈🙈 Seetha on face 🤣🤣🤣

We are all so inspired by ASR😂😂

Originally posted by: Deltablues

I mean, I am pissed at both gadheda-gadhedi.

Kaam hi aise karte hain! Uff 🤦🏻‍♀️

Originally posted by: aye-masakalii

Spot on. I hate the farce of a choice put in front of Imlie because it really wasn't a choice at all. It's a choice between sacrificing herself up for the sake of her family's happiness, versus prioritizing herself and living with the knowledge that she could have stopped it, but she let an innocent man take the fall for a mistake he didn't make and let the family suffer. There really wasn't a choice for her there, because of the kind of person she is, and Aryan knew it and played to that. Sorta wish he hadn't sermonized about choice there because it rang false.

And it's kinda heartbreaking because no matter which way she chose, the most dependable relationship she had, which she had felt so solid in, is also on such shaky ground (from her perspective- we know how reliable Aryan is and his good intent, but he's letting her believe the worst and she is currently doubting everything). Heart broke for how...lonely and defeated she looked today. Wayyyy too much trauma this one 19 year old has had in her life. Uff.

Aditya/Imlie stuff I legit think they're dropping lollipops to retain all factions of the fandom because the way she instinctively cringes away from him...yeah she doesn't love him, don't see that at all.

TBH I've managed to kinda make peace with it because, like you said NO ONE INCLUDING IMLIE is thinking about what Imlie wants, so at least someone (Aryan) is thinking about what she needs. Weaksauce reasoning but it is what it is. (Daily prayer to Sita Maiyya- Iss gaddhi ko ittu si hi sahi, sadbuddhi de do)

Apart from Aryan's character, it was Sumbul's portrayal of chirpiness which endeared me to the show, so I hope we get madcap Imlie again soon, not the dead eyes exhausted girl we saw today 🥺

i'll just put forth one point here that imlie through her actions make it very difficult to treat her like an adult.

aryan tried for months - failed - change of approach.

that's all i see here tbh

Originally posted by: Exuberant_Soul

I'll tell the best one lol. My Mum-in-law had missed a few episodes recently & only saw yesterday's, so she asked me aajkal kya ho rha hai isme?? And I told she keeps running back to Ts so Aryan has put up a condition if she wants Adi to be proved innocent then she has marry Aryan.

And she was like, "yeh sahi kiya ladke ne. Aise akal nhi aani isko. Are apni maa ki bhi fikar kar le kabhi to. Yeh ladka accha hai.". 🤣🤣

@bold

How only writers fails to see this point is still as much a mystery as Rupi's daughter to me?🤣

I don't know how many of you will agree with me, but I have to say this, today Aryan Singh Rathore made me go gaga over him, with the way he goes out of his way to protect Imlie..

Yes, indeed on the face of it Aryan was in a way arm twisting Imlie to say yes to marry him and it is wrong - but lemme say this, when Imlie stood helpless with folded hands in front of him, he couldn't take it..The simple fact being Aryan cannot see Imlie like that.. He didn't like what he saw, the way he held her hand and stopping her from haath jodna, this shows he might not say it outright, but her helplessness breaks him bit by bit, piece by piece...

Next Aryan taught Imlie the skill to make a deal, he told her to negotiate and he told her to see her profit, her fayada.. Now agar Aryan had bad intentions at heart why will he even teach Imlie these tricks of trade, joh ussi pe bhari pad sakti hai.. All Aryan wants is for Imlie to break free from the shackles and chains of Tripathi family and for that he is doing what he is ought to do.. Warna if he leaves it to lmlie, toh phir yeh madam khud karchh ho jaayegi zindagi bhar acting on the whims and fancies of the T family...So thus for Imlie's sake, Aryan has taken the matter in his hands and for this I really cannot blame him..Aryan is just looking out for Imlie..

Aryan then gave lmlie a choice, and lmlie being Imlie with her save the Tripathi family and Aditya syndrome has chosen what she wanted to do.. Agar itna hii tha toh Imlie could have thrown Aryan's offer right back at his face, giving him a go to hell call and walked away, but Imlie wanted to protect the Tripathi family's son, and thus not thinking about herself, valuing others over herself - she agreed to Aryan.. And practically speaking one really cannot blame Aryan here for forcing lmlie - the ounce is not on him, yes he gave her a tough choice to make and she made her choice, it was not like Aryan put a gun on her forehead and told her 'you have to marry me', rather he told her to choose, and she used to being the sacrificial lamb, chose to throw herself under the bus for others.. I will blame Imlie's savior complex towards the T family here, because she could have walked away, but she chose to stay with Aryan..Sorry but no sorry I do not feel any sympathy for Imlie right at this moment...

Last but not the least, Aryan told Imlie to negotiate, and she did, she said she will fake marry Aryan, there you have it, this is Aryan's Imlie, the girl who has looked at her own profit from the deal...And seeing the situation Aryan clearly had the upper hand, agar woh chahtha toh he could have denied lmlie's condition, but naah, he did not even blink an eye, bat an eyelid, he agreed to her without any hesitation..This says a lot..And it shows that all Aryan wants is for Imlie to be away from those who are using her, he wants her to live for herself. It also shows Aryan Imlie ko haasil nahi karna chahtha hai with his actions, woh bas yeh chahtha hai kii Imlie khud ke liye jeeye, khudko aage rakhe - sabse aage..Thus he is being the mean bad guy, guiding her towards her right path!!

P.S: I hope my post didn't offend anyone..

Originally posted by: aye-masakalii

Spot on. I hate the farce of a choice put in front of Imlie because it really wasn't a choice at all. It's a choice between sacrificing herself up for the sake of her family's happiness, versus prioritizing herself and living with the knowledge that she could have stopped it, but she let an innocent man take the fall for a mistake he didn't make and let the family suffer. There really wasn't a choice for her there, because of the kind of person she is, and Aryan knew it and played to that. Sorta wish he hadn't sermonized about choice there because it rang false.

And it's kinda heartbreaking because no matter which way she chose, the most dependable relationship she had, which she had felt so solid in, is also on such shaky ground (from her perspective- we know how reliable Aryan is and his good intent, but he's letting her believe the worst and she is currently doubting everything). Heart broke for how...lonely and defeated she looked today. Wayyyy too much trauma this one 19 year old has had in her life. Uff.

Aditya/Imlie stuff I legit think they're dropping lollipops to retain all factions of the fandom because the way she instinctively cringes away from him...yeah she doesn't love him, don't see that at all.

TBH I've managed to kinda make peace with it because, like you said NO ONE INCLUDING IMLIE is thinking about what Imlie wants, so at least someone (Aryan) is thinking about what she needs. Weaksauce reasoning but it is what it is. (Daily prayer to Sita Maiyya- Iss gaddhi ko ittu si hi sahi, sadbuddhi de do)

Apart from Aryan's character, it was Sumbul's portrayal of chirpiness which endeared me to the show, so I hope we get madcap Imlie again soon, not the dead eyes exhausted girl we saw today 🥺

yea this is also true, if the only "choice" was the one given in the show, there wasn't a choice. But as I said in another post, if Imlie spent even a little time arguing against...pushing for something else, or talking to anyone other than her Sita Maiya -- another choice would have revealed itself.