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Originally posted by: Not_James_bond

I agree jaisa sidG is not a guy who can fight same goes for monami infact we've seen monami defend herself in various situations. Yeh baaki itv shows ka FLs ki tara dosent sit around crying waiting for help she does protect herself. Jaisa ki hum kehta hain ki sidG can't do action like Sanju toh same for monami it's not fair to except her to go all out and do action when woh filaal abhi training la raahi hain uska behaviour traits alag hain par waqt aane pai woh ladna janti hain.❤️❤️❤️

Monami, Sanju and Koel are all very, very different characters, as are Karan, Sid and Faizi.

Same cheezon par different react karte hain. Agar Karan par kisi ne gun taani toh wo haath todh dega. Agar Sid par kisi ne gun taani toh he'll start to joke around. Same situation, different reactions.

Karan is a protector. Sirf Monami ke liye nahi, wo sab ke liye hai. Sanju ke liye tha, Sid ke proposal ke time. Use toh bilkul help nahi chahiye thi, but he was there to protect her because that's how he is.
Monami is a healer. Logon ko heal karna, comfort karna uski first priority hoti hai. Sab ke liye hoti hai. Karan, Sid, Sanju, Koel.

Par iska yeh matlab nahi hai ki Karan kisi ko comfort nahi kar sakta ya Monami kisi ko protect nahi kar sakti. It's just not their first instinct, toh isliye wo utna reflect bhi nahi hota.

Karan ka first instinct hai toh destroy the problem, and Monami's first instinct is to comfort and heal.

Originally posted by: NoeticLife

Monami, Sanju and Koel are all very, very different characters, as are Karan, Sid and Faizi.

Same cheezon par different react karte hain. Agar Karan par kisi ne gun taani toh wo haath todh dega. Agar Sid par kisi ne gun taani toh he'll start to joke around. Same situation, different reactions.

Karan is a protector. Sirf Monami ke liye nahi, wo sab ke liye hai. Sanju ke liye tha, Sid ke proposal ke time. Use toh bilkul help nahi chahiye thi, but he was there to protect her because that's how he is.
Monami is a healer. Logon ko heal karna, comfort karna uski first priority hoti hai. Sab ke liye hoti hai. Karan, Sid, Sanju, Koel.

Par iska yeh matlab nahi hai ki Karan kisi ko comfort nahi kar sakta ya Monami kisi ko protect nahi kar sakti. It's just not their first instinct, toh isliye wo utna reflect bhi nahi hota.

Karan ka first instinct hai toh destroy the problem, and Monami's first instinct is to comfort and heal.

Waahi toh sidG tackles with brains, karan with fists, Faizi with calmness,monami with determination.❤️❤️❤️

Hum sab ka nhi toh alag alag tarika hain deal karne ka jaisa mera sa koi batameezi kare main muh tod du haath uthane layak na rakhu , maybe you are good at debating with words, somebody else is at diversion as a weapon to get away somebody at causing chaos to slip away in a tricky situation har koi alag hain. Agar iss tarah mujha koi kaahe ki haath na uthao bas baaton baaton main debate main harao toh main sar sakti hun but it doesn't come naturally as it's not my first instinct .

My first reaction during a time where I'm in a place of trouble is to slam my fist into that person's face and to pin him to the ground waisa hi show main baaki characters ka alag alag tarika hain.

Only character who I have seen having doing both is karan. Haa ab woh ek commanding officer hain toh uska aisa hona banta hain .

Originally posted by: peacenfun

Monami's dad was also wrong there, she couldn't just let her dad ruin Karan's career, academy, put everyone else's training, jobs at risk, specially when she knew beforehand about Karan's nightmares and was 100% convinced that it was just an accident

besides training was one of her dreams, she was already an accomplished doctor, doing what she loved, army doctor nahi par doctor toh thi na, toh situation was better than what Sanj has with Kundan I think, sacrificing her career, identity & being a docile house wife, following Kundan's orders, his unreasonable treatment, giving up on her freedom, opinions, choices, almost everything, specially when she has a better choice in Sid, also academy people supporting her

Monami was blackmailed so she had no choice, but Sanj has a choice she still chose her baapu

Par dono ke apne flaws hai, apni journey hai, apni priorities hai, toh compare nahi karna chahiye, shayad growth par bhi nahi

Infact thats why I signed up for this show, all 6 are intriguing, flawed, have miles to go if explored well

It's not just about being able to do what you love. It's also about being able to make your own decisions, jo ki uske Dad usko kabhi nahi karne dete.

Both were giving their lives up, signing for a life where they'll have to do what another person said (Kundan for Sanju and Walnut for Monami).

Sid ne jo lecture diya tha Karan ko, usse saaf pata chalta tha ki Walnut har cheez mein controlling hai. And emotional pain alag. Your own father doesn't care about your feelings, your ambitions.

But they're just too apart to compare. Agar Sanju Monami ki jagah hoti, toh Sid ke liye shayad apne dreams nahi chodti, aur agar Monami Sanju ki jagah hoti, toh shayad apne dad ki happiness ke liye shaadi nahi karti. Toh, yeh kehna ki ek doosre se zyaada strong hai, ya sacrificing hai, wo sahi nahi hoga, because they can't be compared.

Main yeh bhi nahi keh rahi ki Monami Sanju se zyaada strong hai. Just yeh ki dono strong hain.

Originally posted by: Not_James_bond

I agree jaisa sidG is not a guy who can fight same goes for monami infact we've seen monami defend herself in various situations. Yeh baaki itv shows ka FLs ki tara dosent sit around crying waiting for help she does protect herself. Jaisa ki hum kehta hain ki sidG can't do action like Sanju toh same for monami it's not fair to except her to go all out and do action when woh filaal abhi training la raahi hain uska behaviour traits alag hain par waqt aane pai woh ladna janti hain.❤️❤️❤️

By damsel in distress I didn't mean she lacks capabilities, I meant that as per recent tracks its been shown that she can't fight her battles all alone, she always needs Karan and Karan kind of feels protective about her for the same reason

During Aneesh's party-

Monami- 'Main apne decisions khud le sakti hun'

Karan was proven right by doubting Aneesh

Then for Sid 'usko meri zarurat hai, I can't leave him alone'

Karan was again proven right that Sid needed space & thats why he left that letter

Monami was not that dumb earlier, infact she was quite smart, she didn't take stand against Karan when Koel did in initial episodes

Karan- 'Kya baat hai aaj complaint box par taala kaise lag gaya, Monami-Tsunami'

Monami to Koel- 'Mere already uske saath pange chal rahe hai toh main apne liye aur problems create nahi karna chahti'

Monami to Sid- 'Sid tu thoda crack hai, main tujhe samjhti hun par ye log nahi samjhenge' 'Sanj tujhse pyaar nahi karti don't waste your life' 'yahi karna hai tujhe mess mein job, aaloo chheelega'

Infact the way she handled whole Sid fiasco, even handled Karan maturely when he rejected her, ofcourse 2-3 baar she slipped but end mein always ended up doing the right thing, par nowadays don't know if its because of this love wali initial phase but she seems pretty dumb

Usko ab tak Aneesh ki intentions par doubt na hona, letting him spent time with her, all this counts as leading him on, Aneesh doesn't know about her love for Karan, and Monami is shown as someone with high EQ, woh logon ke bina bole samajh jati hai unki feelings, Karan's love, Koel's pain, Sanj's majboori, Sid's conviction about Sanj's feelings

I think makers have screwed up with Aneesh track, Aneesh ko bhi villian bana diya n Monu ka character bhi ruin kar diya

Originally posted by: Not_James_bond

Waahi toh sidG tackles with brains, karan with fists, Faizi with calmness,monami with determination.❤️❤️❤️

Hum sab ka nhi toh alag alag tarika hain deal karne ka jaisa mera sa koi batameezi kare main muh tod du haath uthane layak na rakhu , maybe you are good at debating with words, somebody else is at diversion as a weapon to get away somebody at causing chaos to slip away in a tricky situation har koi alag hain. Agar iss tarah mujha koi kaahe ki haath na uthao bas baaton baaton main debate main harao toh main sar sakti hun but it doesn't come naturally as it's not my first instinct .

My first reaction during a time where I'm in a place of trouble is to slam my fist into that person's face and to pin him to the ground waisa hi show main baaki characters ka alag alag tarika hain.

Only character who I have seen having doing both is karan. Haa ab woh ek commanding officer hain toh uska aisa hona banta hain .

Exactly! Mujhe hamesha se yeh lagta tha ki Sanju bahut violent hai. Strong aur violent mein farak hota hai. I have seen way too many characters jahan par ise inter-mingle kar dete hain, and shayad isliye hi mujhe Sanju itni pasand nahi aayi starting mein. Non-violent log bhi strong ho sakte hain, aur violent log bhi weak ho sakte hain.

Karan is very calculative. Wo moves dekh kar chalta hai. Kahan kya better hai. Kya work karega. His first instinct isn't to move or do something, it's to analyze. In most situations.

Originally posted by: peacenfun

By damsel in distress I didn't mean she lacks capabilities, I meant that as per recent tracks its been shown that she can't fight her battles all alone, she always needs Karan and Karan kind of feels protective about her for the same reason

During Aneesh's party-

Monami- 'Main apne decisions khud le sakti hun'

Karan was proven right by doubting Aneesh

Then for Sid 'usko meri zarurat hai, I can't leave him alone'

Karan was again proven right that Sid needed space & thats why he left that letter

Monami was not that dumb earlier, infact she was quite smart, she didn't take stand against Karan when Koel did in initial episodes

Karan- 'Kya baat hai aaj complaint box par taala kaise lag gaya, Monami-Tsunami'

Monami to Koel- 'Mere already uske saath pange chal rahe hai toh main apne liye aur problems create nahi karna chahti'

Monami to Sid- 'Sid tu thoda crack hai, main tujhe samjhti hun par ye log nahi samjhenge' 'Sanj tujhse pyaar nahi karti don't waste your life' 'yahi karna hai tujhe mess mein job, aaloo chheelega'

Infact the way she handled whole Sid fiasco, even handled Karan maturely when he rejected her, ofcourse 2-3 baar she slipped but end mein always ended up doing the right thing, par nowadays don't know if its because of this love wali initial phase but she seems pretty dumb

Usko ab tak Aneesh ki intentions par doubt na hona, letting him spent time with her, all this counts as leading him on, Aneesh doesn't know about her love for Karan, and Monami is shown as someone with high EQ, woh logon ke bina bole samajh jati hai unki feelings, Karan's love, Koel's pain, Sanj's majboori, Sid's conviction about Sanj's feelings

I think makers have screwed up with Aneesh track, Aneesh ko bhi villian bana diya n Monu ka character bhi ruin kar diya

Aksar even the smartest man can be tricked . Aneesh ki saari ghatiya harkate humne dekhi hain as viewers , he has thoda bohot shown it to karan. It's easier when you have a third person perspective.

But karan ka alava uska yeh harkatein kisi na notice nahi ki na sid na na Faizi na , haa abhi sid uska saath waqt nahi bitaya but I'm sure Aneesh vaaisa openly kabhie bhi hints di hoti toh sidG uski waat lagata.

Baakiyo ka samne he pretends and wears a mask but since he sees potential threat in karan he shows those harkatein only to him. They through this track will try to highlight ki just cause a ladki tumhare saath friendly hain uska matlab yeh nahi ki woh tumse pyar karti hain if she says no then it means a no. Aneesh na bhi khud apne interview main kaaha ki abhi tak usna monami ko feelings confess nahi kari par woh karega phir tab ka track age explore hoga .

Aneesh abhi tak usma monami ka saath kuch kiya nahi hain he's always pretended to be the oh ever so good friend plus woh ussa College sa janti hain . Toh uska friend ka jaisa usa treat karna galat nahi hain.

Galat tab hota jab ussa pata hota yaa woh samne waale ko apne fayda ka liya use kar rahi ho jaisa ki sidsa ka case main hua.

Monami has not given any such signal toh yeh kehna ki she's leading on mera hisaab sa thoda galat hoga.

Originally posted by: NoeticLife

Exactly! Mujhe hamesha se yeh lagta tha ki Sanju bahut violent hai. Strong aur violent mein farak hota hai. I have seen way too many characters jahan par ise inter-mingle kar dete hain, and shayad isliye hi mujhe Sanju itni pasand nahi aayi starting mein. Non-violent log bhi strong ho sakte hain, aur violent log bhi weak ho sakte hain.

Karan is very calculative. Wo moves dekh kar chalta hai. Kahan kya better hai. Kya work karega. His first instinct isn't to move or do something, it's to analyze. In most situations.

Waahi toh I've seen a girl who can fight thing on itv before in the show ziddi Dil replaced . In real to I know girls who can pack punches yes I started the show being impressed with Sanju but with the picnic track dheera dheera it kept getting tipsy ab toh atleast filaal for me she ceases to exist. Sanju at times rationality, sab bhool jaati hain , usma acknowledgement ka trait hi nahi hain . Haa as said by many ki abhi uski growth shuru nahi hui but woh aaj bhi aur pehla bhi apne ird gird hi ghumti hain even her sacrifice is all hers usma baaki koi hain hi nahi.

Monami ka dheere dheere khul raha hain , karan ka bohot hi balanced rational mind haineven when monami ko pushpa na realise kiya he first complited his duty of giving orders aur uska baad woh bhaaga.

Originally posted by: peacenfun

Mera matlab tha ki for a lot of characters, violence and fear=strength when it comes to women.

Rude hona, kisi ki feelings ki care nahi karna, wo sab strength mein aata hai. Being emotional is weak. I have seen a lot of characters like that, and mujhe initially se Sanju se use mentality ki vibes aati thi.

But thank God, waisa nahi dikhaaya. That's sending a lot of wrong messages.

Originally posted by: NoeticLife

Mera matlab tha ki for a lot of characters, violence and fear=strength when it comes to women.

Rude hona, kisi ki feelings ki care nahi karna, wo sab strength mein aata hai. Being emotional is weak. I have seen a lot of characters like that, and mujhe initially se Sanju se use mentality ki vibes aati thi.

But thank God, waisa nahi dikhaaya. That's sending a lot of wrong messages.

Exactly I've seen alot of movies misinterpret a woman who useless violence as a mechanism, who drinks smokes are verbally abuses as shown to be the modern or strong women .

It's like ki unka hisaab sa a women with strong determination , or someone who is silent can't be a femanist.

Iss show main teeno female leads are strong haar kisi ka through huma alag aspects dikha hain.❤️❤️❤️

Originally posted by: Not_James_bond

Waahi toh I've seen a girl who can fight thing on itv before in the show ziddi Dil replaced . In real to I know girls who can pack punches yes I started the show being impressed with Sanju but with the picnic track dheera dheera it kept getting tipsy ab toh atleast filaal for me she ceases to exist. Sanju at times rationality, sab bhool jaati hain , usma acknowledgement ka trait hi nahi hain . Haa as said by many ki abhi uski growth shuru nahi hui but woh aaj bhi aur pehla bhi apne ird gird hi ghumti hain even her sacrifice is all hers usma baaki koi hain hi nahi.

Monami ka dheere dheere khul raha hain , karan ka bohot hi balanced rational mind haineven when monami ko pushpa na realise kiya he first complited his duty of giving orders aur uska baad woh bhaaga.

I don't hate Sanju. Ek toh track itna kheench diya toh usi cheez ko dekh dekh kar bore ho gayi hoon main. Thoda jaldi karte toh shayad itna bura nahi lagta.

Agreed. Sanju seemed to be very self centered. I can accept this as her flaw, but I need this acknowledged. Koi toh acknowledge karo yeh!

Wo doosre ka point of view bahut hi zyaada kam acknowledge karti hai. Sure, Monami, Sid ya even Faizi jitna main expect nahi karti because they are very understanding people. Ab gunshot waala track le lo. She was getting angry about Walnut yelling on Karan. Maate, gussa hone se pehle ek baar soch lo ki uski beti hai, mar sakti hai.

Sid ne ise date par bulaaya, uspar violent ho jao, toh theek hai. Par saamne waali ki beti ICU mein hai, and YOU KNOW ki Karan is responsible for it, toh bhi tumhe gussa aa raha hai? Matlab, tumhaara gussa jayis jab koi tumhe date par bula le, par tumne kuch galat kar diya, toh koi kuch na kahe.

Monami ki biggest flaw hai ki wo bahut zyaada emotional hai. Karne ke pehle sochti nahi hai. But that's at least, acknowledged. Aur ek baar nahi, bahut baar hoti hai. Wo us cheez ke consequences bhi face karti hai.