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Posted: 3 years ago
#31

Originally posted by: Angels11


You are a fan of those 2 shows which ve been running for centuries To each his own. I will take ur word that the ML in those shows are decent & not the typical douche bags shown on Indian telly. For once I want a show where the FL is angry, arrogant & the ML is decent, down to earth. Guess they did try it in Ek Duje ke vaaste.

It would be a welcome change. I am so done with this Angry Young men trope in Indian telly


Bold 1- not really a fan 😃, but I specifically watch that pair's scenes only. Was introduced to it via Google Drive scenes of the pair (the uploader uploads scenes of pretty much every ITV pair, but even they in particular liked this one and that speaks volumes)


Bold 2- Perhaps Beyhadh? (Jennifer Winget and Kushal Tandon). Although I wouldn't exactly call Tandon's character as down to earth there.


I primarily watch Sony because there's an element of balance there and shows aren't too OTT. MHRW isn't too bad- I started watching after the forced marriage and thought the ML's redemption track wasn't too bad (although given what he did earlier, I do feel Pallavi forgave him too easily 😆)

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Posted: 3 years ago
#32

Originally posted by: Anu1975

How about making Pallavi angry and adamant and get a new guy for her absolutely decent, simple and down to earth yet strong minded and strong willed….


No matter how much we curse Indian shows the truth is that women do like a bad boy. I think the reason why in all these hate to love stories the guy is always shown to be bad is coz secretly most of us like that concept. You know, a guy who is bad but changes just for the sake of a simple girl. He is good only to her. Its like reemphasizing this romantic notion that love has the power to change a person. We secretly root for the girl & want her to get her man. If they show a decent, simple guy think we might find it boring 😆 Simple is not sexy. Shirtless Raghav hitting the tyre is definitely sexy 😃 But if done well it can be beautiful. My all time favorite movie is Maniratnam's Mouna Ragam. Here the wife Revathy wants divorce from her husband (Mohan) since she had loved karthik during college & she is still not over it. The way Mani shows Revathy gradually falling in love with Mohan is really beautiful. The old DD show Kshitij yeh nahin has a simple guy loving a widow who has a daughter. So with the right director & actors its doable but sadly v dont get such shows on TV any more 😒

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Posted: 3 years ago
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Originally posted by: aekiel


Bold 1- not really a fan 😃, but I specifically watch that pair's scenes only. Was introduced to it via Google Drive scenes of the pair (the uploader uploads scenes of pretty much every ITV pair, but even they in particular liked this one and that speaks volumes)


Bold 2- Perhaps Beyhadh? (Jennifer Winget and Kushal Tandon). Although I wouldn't exactly call Tandon's character as down to earth there.


I primarily watch Sony because there's an element of balance there and shows aren't too OTT. MHRW isn't too bad- I started watching after the forced marriage and thought the ML's redemption track wasn't too bad (although given what he did earlier, I do feel Pallavi forgave him too easily 😆)


But in Beyhadh Maya dies & she doesnt get the guy 😒I guess it has a cult following though TRP was not great at tat time. I too agree that Raghav is actually much decent compared to other MLs in the past. My DP is ASR who is the epitome of douchebag. And he dint even grovel but then I couldnt tolerate the FL at all. That's precisely my prob with these shows. Either they r doormats like Gopi vahu & intolerable idiots like Kushi. There is no middle ground where u ve sane FL. 1 big plus 4 MHRW is I really like Pallavi. She is neither doormat nor mahan. She always stood up to Raghav. She was not exactly a doormat with the Ds & did blast Vijay & Sulo. She has bitch slapped Kirti & Sunny. Even Esha. So yes I defo like Pallavi a sane, relatable FL on Indian soaps 👍🏼

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Posted: 3 years ago
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No one intentionally drugged Pallavi. Mandar got the drug from Sunny, in Kirti's presence, and put it in the khīra that Pallavi had made for Raghav. Then Raghav fed it to Pallavi, Pallavi fell unconscious, Mandar carried her to bed, and Pallavi just happened to say something meant for Raghav that Raghav thought she was saying to Mandar while holding Mandar's hand.


I think there can be no doubt that this show twisted the story into knots to keep Pallavi sexually untouched. (I try not to use the word virgin because it conveys expectations for something that should be individually defined.) If they wanted to show how Pallavi was a virtual stranger that the Deshmukhs accepted into the family when they didn't have to, they would have started the story with Mandar's disappearance, or at least they would have shown flashbacks. In my opinion, even if Pallavi had been intimate with Mandar and then he disappeared, the family would deserve praise for showing solidarity with the widow.


In the Bengali story Boodi (1963) by Manik Bandyopadhyay, a girl whose husband died on the wedding night is now an old woman. She talks about her experience with her great-grandson on his wedding day, and after some months, she talks about it rather differently with her great-grandson's widow. I agree with the story's message that while the situations are different (Pallavi widowed on wedding night or after a few months), women face the same attitudes and superstitions. In the case of Pallavi, she would be lucky to have the Deshmukh family's support in both situations.


In a Marathi family, there's no Mummy or Mummy, there's just Sāsūbāī (old-fashioned way to address mother-in-law) or Āī (modern way to address mother-in-law as mother). If Pallavi used the pronouns tumhī or tyā (honorific plural) for Sharada Āī, the way she said "Mandar the" when talking about him to Raghav, the listener would understand that Sharada is her mother-in-law, but if Pallavi said or (singular), the listener would think that Sharada Āī is her own mother.

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Posted: 3 years ago
#35

Originally posted by: BrhannadaArmour

No one intentionally drugged Pallavi. Mandar got the drug from Sunny, in Kirti's presence, and put it in the khīra that Pallavi had made for Raghav. Then Raghav fed it to Pallavi, Pallavi fell unconscious, Mandar carried her to bed, and Pallavi just happened to say something meant for Raghav that Raghav thought she was saying to Mandar while holding Mandar's hand.

Yes, but Kirti didn't bother to help Pallavi when she was drugged and even helped Mandar to take Pallavi upstairs by distracting Raghav through her and Sunny's fake fight. So yes, Kirti had a major role in the entire fiasco.


I think there can be no doubt that this show twisted the story into knots to keep Pallavi sexually untouched. (I try not to use the word virgin because it conveys expectations for something that should be individually defined.) If they wanted to show how Pallavi was a virtual stranger that the Deshmukhs accepted into the family when they didn't have to, they would have started the story with Mandar's disappearance, or at least they would have shown flashbacks. In my opinion, even if Pallavi had been intimate with Mandar and then he disappeared, the family would deserve praise for showing solidarity with the widow.

Somewhere or the other, we, in general, are ingrained that ML and FL are reserved for each other. There was an uproar even when Esha-Raghav flashbacks were shown (Note: I am strictly talking about past flashbacks not scenes in present). I guess, originally wanted to show some flashbacks but then backed out. If you see initial episodes, Pallavi is shown holding her wedding album and mangalsutra, while Sharada and Vijay support her.


In the Bengali story Boodi (1963) by Manik Bandyopadhyay, a girl whose husband died on the wedding night is now an old woman. She talks about her experience with her great-grandson on his wedding day, and after some months, she talks about it rather differently with her great-grandson's widow. I agree with the story's message that while the situations are different (Pallavi widowed on wedding night or after a few months), women face the same attitudes and superstitions. In the case of Pallavi, she would be lucky to have the Deshmukh family's support in both situations.

In this case I am not talking about attitudes and superstitions. I am talking about bonding. See if Pallavi and Mandar had got to spend some time after marriage, then Pallavi would have got to spend some normal family time with D's (celebrating festivals, birthdays, going on holidays etc.). This would have helped the bonding between her and D's so then chances of abandoning Pallavi when she was widowed would have been lesser as they already loved her. In show's scenario, as Mandar died on the wedding day, this bonding opportunity was gone, yet she was accepted. Pallavi was chosen before she was loved. Which is why she is so deeply attached to D's


In a Marathi family, there's no Mummy or Mummy, there's just Sāsūbāī (old-fashioned way to address mother-in-law) or Āī (modern way to address mother-in-law as mother). If Pallavi used the pronouns tumhī or tyā (honorific plural) for Sharada Āī, the way she said "Mandar the" when talking about him to Raghav, the listener would understand that Sharada is her mother-in-law, but if Pallavi said or (singular), the listener would think that Sharada Āī is her own mother.

I doubt if someone really calls their MIL Sasubai these days 😆. Its not right to generalize people this way, I address my mother as "Aap" while she address her mother as "Tu". Also, the promo, at core, was not about calling MIL as "ji", but about treating MIL as your own mother. The promo had also clearly underlined the fact that, to reach this comfort level, efforts should be from both MIL and DIL and not just DIL

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Posted: 3 years ago
#36

Originally posted by: Ranjana20

ya if its sai playing double role but fls cant be angry they are MAHANTA KI MUHRAT not only one but several shows....

😂😂 Yeah I knows FL needs to be mahaan…But I would love to see a change in Pallavi’s attitude afterall she has gone through so much in her life and such a big betrayal so little bit of rudeness and adamancy will be a logical transition in her character growth…

Yeah Sai can play a double role…we can get to see their chemistry again…

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Posted: 3 years ago
#37

Originally posted by: Angels11


No matter how much we curse Indian shows the truth is that women do like a bad boy. No I don’t, I am a woman…put me with a guy like Raghav, I would have killed him and landed in jail… I think the reason why in all these hate to love stories the guy is always shown to be bad is coz secretly most of us like that concept. You know, a guy who is bad but changes just for the sake of a simple girl. Instead of bad boy changing for a simple girl, it should be bad changing to better or best for love…that would be more interesting right…that can work for any gender..why can’t a proud girl falling for a simple man can’t be entertaining…He is good only to her. Its like reemphasizing this romantic notion that love has the power to change it should work both ways then..a person. We secretly root for the girl & want her to get her man. If they show a decent, simple guy think we might find it boring 😆 Simple is not sexy. Shirtless Raghav hitting the tyre is definitely sexy 😃 Raghav's current version with or without shirt can go to hell..I am not interested and many would agree with me.. But if done well it can be beautiful. My all time favorite movie is Maniratnam's Mouna Ragam. Here the wife Revathy wants divorce from her husband (Mohan) since she had loved karthik during college & she is still not over it. The way Mani shows Revathy gradually falling in love with Mohan is really beautiful. I would love to see something like that…Pallavi getting over Raghav and falling for a new guy who just loves her not just needs her…she deserves such love and happiness…The old DD show Kshitij yeh nahin has a simple guy loving a widow who has a daughter. So with the right director & actors its doable but sadly v dont get such shows on TV any more 😒

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Posted: 3 years ago
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par show ko khatam hojayega..


waise abhi fl mahaan nhi hai par raghav is starplus ki bahu

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Posted: 3 years ago
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Yes in real life any sane woman will run away from a guy like Raghav. But then tis is reel world right & it does make an interesting watch to see such hate to love stories. We all know in real life it doesn't happen. A jerk will always remain a jerk. I do confess that its my guilty pleasure. The I hate u to I love u stories 😃 I know its not fair but I ve watched many Tamil movies where the guy is bola bala/simple & the girl is tad aggressive & bosses over him. Personally I find such pairs a turn off. And no its not misogyny. Just personal preference when it comes to movies. I hate doormats be it guy or gal. There should be a balance in the relationship. So that way I am ok with Indian shows where the guy is kadoos. I just don't like the abuse & insensitivity. Yo ASR I am looking at u dude 🤔 Here I found Raghav at least palatable. He was not abusive. And whenever he knew he was wrong he owned up & always apologized be it Pallavi or his mom. So I would not say he is out & out douchebag. Even Pallavi was never shown as a doormat. She was always shown to be sane & strongly independent. So the CVs did ok with the 2 leads. Just that they butchered Raghav's characterization in the Esha track. Maybe to add masala & get TRP, god knows what goes on in the minds of Indian show writers

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