*~*TAZBU (SaiShi and RaghVi) AT 17*~* Meri Duniyaa - Page 87

Originally posted by: joliefemme

Let me try and put across my perspective. You may not like it but feel free to ignore.

Yes, Pallavi didn't have the drugged kheer that night but she willingly chose to stay back in D house. How much ever she was upset with Raghav, he is her husband at the end of the day. She should have not promised VD to stay back to treat Mandar indefinitely without consulting Raghav. There she was at fault despite her noble intentions and complete honesty.

Raghav willingly got into a drinking session with his ex who harboured feelings for him. But tell me one thing can you blame him for drinking with the ex, did he know she would take advantage of his drunken state? She was his friend who literally destroyed her life for saving his. He held a grudge against her for such a long time and he felt relieved that was not the case. Hence he indulged in a stupid drinking game till he was sloshed. If there was an ex who was positive most of us would not have found his actions questionable. There are so many people who are friends with people who like them, it's not like everyone literally stays away from friends because they have one sided feelings right.

While it was utterly stupid of him and a huge huge mistake, I don't see him as doing this intentionally to hurt Pallavi. Here he was a victim because Esha closed in on him. Right now he's hiding because he thinks he slept with Esha, if that were not the case, he would have come as clean as P did.

Also, I don't know how many people observed in the Mandar drugged kand. After Amma and R left and Aayi promised to be near Pallavi, she literally left the next second and a drugged Pallavi was with Mandar alone in the room. You can go back and check, I know coz I was literally screaming into the TV at aayi for being so careless about it. I'm not blaming Pallavi here but the circumstances are literally the same. If Mandar did cross the line and Pallavi didn't remember, she would literally be in the same state as R or lost as to what happened.

I agree totally when you say that R is at fault for hiding this from P because it takes away her agency to decide. While I understand his actions, I don't condone them. That is precisely the reason why he will give an agnipariksha and lots more and P was back in his life without as much as a sorry (because she wasn't at fault).

As far as emotional cheating goes, Esha is emotionally manipulating Raghav and the idiot is falling for it. But he's not emotionally cheating on Pallavi. According to me what qualifies as emotional cheating is when you have feelings for the other person, Raghav here only feels for Pallavi and not Esha.

As for Pals doing wrong by staying at D house yea she did a big blunder there but she primarily went there bcoz she was angry with RR for the tracker and later VD manipulated her while here Easha is doling that job . Now I wanna blame Pals too for Bringing hubby’s ex to live with them but in her defense only thing is she didn’t know about the hotel fiasco hence she did that blunder . Still I would blame her today for not putting her foot down and force RR to stay Easha to some safe house instead of trying to take things in her own hands . Anyway I would want to wait and watch what’s coming in the future but I feel we’re up for some more heartbreaks till things get ok and RR is up for some more bashing by the SM FD

Originally posted by: Trina2021

1st and foremost I’m not trying to justify Pals actions in the M track but it is also true that I’m shocked to see Raghav boldness by keeping Easha in his house and his visits to her room at night when he clearly doesn’t want his wife to know anything about it . See Pals dumbness was quite evident in M track but this track is way more elaborated and disgusting and impactful bcoz Raghavs proceeded with the knowledge of Eashas feelings for him while Pals proceeded with none . Yes none of them wanted to cheat on their partners but for Pals she was drugged without her knowledge while RR by his own admissions doesn’t remember anything after getting sloshed . So yeah I would say he did a huge blunder there .

As for Pals doing wrong by staying at D house yea she did a big blunder there but she primarily went there bcoz she was angry with RR for the tracker and later VD manipulated her while here Easha is doling that job . Now I wanna blame Pals too for Bringing hubby’s ex to live with them but in her defense only thing is she didn’t know about the hotel fiasco hence she did that blunder . Still I would blame her today for not putting her foot down and force RR to stay Easha to some safe house instead of trying to take things in her own hands . Anyway I would want to wait and watch what’s coming in the future but I feel we’re up for some more heartbreaks till things get ok and RR is up for some more bashing by the SM FD

I know you're not trying to justify Pallavi ke actions but we have been saying it's a mirror of Mandar track. Hence when you look at it in light of Mandar track it doesn't seem as bad.

Raghav's boldness? He clearly stated why he's keeping her in the home, he was totally against it but now his intentions are to keep Esha safe. Similar things have happened in Mandar track where P has been oblivious to the intentions of Mandar. Again, I'm not condoning Raghav's actions and him keeping his ex in the House when he's supposedly slept with her and P being in the dark doesn't sit well with me as well but tadka. And he will pay for all these mistakes so I'm taking it with a pinch of salt.

Visiting at night also was to ask her to leave but she ended up emotionally manipulating him. If u see that scene she told him thrice they slept together. Again not condoning his actions but I can understand how he's getting manipulated.

Raghav proceeded with feelings of Esha meaning? Yes he knows she still has feelings for him but he loves only Pallavi and has made it clear multiple times. You don't stop talking to everyone who has feelings for you.

Why isn't Raghav being sloshed equated to P being drugged. Both were out of their senses. Just because R willingly consumed the liquor, he no longer remains a victim? Would we have said the same thing if a girl was drunk and taken advantage of? Why are men not victims in such situations.

I'm not blaming P for bringing Esha home, that's her nature and she's very much in character. Yes we are in for whole lot of heartbreak.

Originally posted by: joliefemme

I know Sharada I could never understand solo stans. I always root for the couple warna show dekhne ka koi sense nai banta. But you can imagine the toll it takes to defend R or P in the forum. I've done both and I'm exhausted.

Waise after Mhrw main koi aur show kafi time tak nai dekhne wali.

I don't bother much these days. Aise roz roz apna khoon jalaake kya karna. Also, if someone is a solo stan, chances are you won't be able to explain to them or reason with them why the other lead is not all bad because they already have their minds made up but I really appreciate your counter responses yaar Ren. I personally can't imagine rooting for just one lead and not the pair as a whole if it's a romantic show. It's called romance for a reason lol.

@b: Tmai. That's also why I've been down lately, because it's the only thing keeping me hooked to ITV after so long. I miss gushing over good desi shows, and now RaghVi have set the bar too high. I don't know phir kab ITV se raabta ho.

Lag ja gale ke phir yeh

Haseen raat ho naa ho

Shayad phir iss janam mein

Mulaqaat ho na ho

Originally posted by: joliefemme

I know you're not trying to justify Pallavi ke actions but we have been saying it's a mirror of Mandar track. Hence when you look at it in light of Mandar track it doesn't seem as bad.

Raghav's boldness? He clearly stated why he's keeping her in the home, he was totally against it but now his intentions are to keep Esha safe. Similar things have happened in Mandar track where P has been oblivious to the intentions of Mandar. Again, I'm not condoning Raghav's actions and him keeping his ex in the House when he's supposedly slept with her and P being in the dark doesn't sit well with me as well but tadka. And he will pay for all these mistakes so I'm taking it with a pinch of salt.

Visiting at night also was to ask her to leave but she ended up emotionally manipulating him. If u see that scene she told him thrice they slept together. Again not condoning his actions but I can understand how he's getting manipulated.

Raghav proceeded with feelings of Esha meaning? Yes he knows she still has feelings for him but he loves only Pallavi and has made it clear multiple times. You don't stop talking to everyone who has feelings for you.

Why isn't Raghav being sloshed equated to P being drugged. Both were out of their senses. Just because R willingly consumed the liquor, he no longer remains a victim? Would we have said the same thing if a girl was drunk and taken advantage of? Why are men not victims in such situations.

I'm not blaming P for bringing Esha home, that's her nature and she's very much in character. Yes we are in for whole lot of heartbreak.

For Pallavi only difference Is she didn’t know kheer could’ve make her intoxicated and she also didn’t know about Mandar having feelings for her as well

In both cases none of them did anything intentionally but RR could’ve been cautious bcoz his ex was openly confessing him her feelings for him . That’s how I see it

As for RR not being the Victim who said he’s not the victim here ? He’s definitely a victim here bcoz even if anything happened it’s bcuz Easha took advantage of him that’s it . Now I still feel it’s not possible for a man to go through the entire process while being intoxicated that way but only Siku knows what he has in his kitty for us .

Chalo need to call it a night. If any BTS comes please tag me

Originally posted by: rubys07

I don't bother much these days. Aise roz roz apna khoon jalaake kya karna. Also, if someone is a solo stan, chances are you won't be able to explain to them or reason with them why the other lead is not all bad because they already have their minds made up but I really appreciate your counter responses yaar Ren. I personally can't imagine rooting for just one lead and not the pair as a whole if it's a romantic show. It's called romance for a reason lol.

@b: Tmai. That's also why I've been down lately, because it's the only thing keeping me hooked to ITV after so long. I miss gushing over good desi shows, and now RaghVi have set the bar too high. I don't know phir kab ITV se raabta ho.

Lag ja gale ke phir yeh

Haseen raat ho naa ho

Shayad phir iss janam mein

Mulaqaat ho na ho

As the days are passing Ru, I'm getting more and more affected. I'm really hoping there is a chance at saving our show and we'll get it.

Originally posted by: Trina2021

Ragahv proceeded to drink with Easha while staying in the same room with her with knowledge of her having feelings for him . Means b4 he gave into her demands to get engaged into a drinking game with her he knew she harbors feelings for him hence he should’ve been cautious about getting sloshed with her .

For Pallavi only difference Is she didn’t know kheer could’ve make her intoxicated and she also didn’t know about Mandar having feelings for her as well

In both cases none of them did anything intentionally but RR could’ve been cautious bcoz his ex was openly confessing him her feelings for him . That’s how I see it

As for RR not being the Victim who said he’s not the victim here ? He’s definitely a victim here bcoz even if anything happened it’s bcuz Easha took advantage of him that’s it . Now I still feel it’s not possible for a man to go through the entire process while being intoxicated that way but only Siku knows what he has in his kitty for us .

See if you ask me I don't see any issue in him having a drink with his ex or being in the same room even if the ex had feelings. There was no other room, she was injured and the situation was such. You cant hold Raghav responsible for Esha having feelings for him. If nothing had happened, Raghav may have come clean to P that both were in the same room due to circumstances but nothing happened.

He has made mistakes and was utterly irresponsibly but here the main issue happened because Esha had I'll intentions. If she was a positive ex despite her feelings, she would have slept on the sofa aur kuch nai hota, iykwim. R will have to walk on burning coal literally to gain forgiveness from P.

@bold I agree it's practically not possible but tadka.

Originally posted by: PSharada

I swear MHRW fandom is so extreme. When Pallavi was helping Mandar oh these people wanted Pals to divorce Raghav and go back to Mandar. And now when Raghav is trying to just be a friend to Esha they are now wanting Pallavi to leave Raghav and go.

During the Mandar track, Raghav knew that Mandar was playing but Pallavi was thinking that he needed help. Here Pallavi knows that Esha is playing but Raghav thinks she needs protection from Sumit. Same to same track - only players have changed. I don't know why people need to bash either Raghav or Pallavi. Both are true to their characteristics.

Sorry to intrude , but Pallavi slept with Mandaar and hide it from Raghav ? When ? Raghav prioritising woman he slept with over his wife is really not done , I don’t know why people are being constantly called out for not being happy about it here ?

Also Pallavi got to know about Esha’s feelings recently, Raghav knows it from start yet doesn’t maintain distance.

Originally posted by: joliefemme

See if you ask me I don't see any issue in him having a drink with his ex or being in the same room even if the ex had feelings. There was no other room, she was injured and the situation was such. You cant hold Raghav responsible for Esha having feelings for him. If nothing had happened, Raghav may have come clean to P that both were in the same room due to circumstances but nothing happened.

He has made mistakes and was utterly irresponsibly but here the main issue happened because Esha had I'll intentions. If she was a positive ex despite her feelings, she would have slept on the sofa aur kuch nai hota, iykwim. R will have to walk on burning coal literally to gain forgiveness from P.

@bold I agree it's practically not possible but tadka.

Don’t see any reason for him to go through this . Really weird if you ask me 🤔

Originally posted by: Couch.Potato

Sorry to intrude , but Pallavi slept with Mandaar and hide it from Raghav ? When ? Raghav prioritising woman he slept with over his wife is really not done , I don’t know why people are being constantly called out for not being happy about it here ?

Also Pallavi got to know about Esha’s feelings recently, Raghav knows it from start yet doesn’t maintain distance.

I think you misunderstood my post. Pallavi was bashed for giving importance to Mandar. Here Raghav is being bashed. I admit that Raghav did do wrong of hiding things from Pallavi. But he has repeatedly told Esha that she is his past. Yeah Esha tried to get him to be with her but he told her that nothing will ever happen with them because he now loves Pallavi. Esha is emotionally manipulating Raghav just like Mandar manipulated Pallavi with his fake memory track. Yes Pallavi did not hide anything from Raghav but she allowed herself to be manipulated by D family repeatedly even when Raghav voiced his concerns. Here Esha is manipulating Raghav - first by her sob story of abusive ex, then the kidnapping stunt and now telling half truths to Raghav.

I never said what Raghav is doing is correct but I understand his reasons for doing so and his characterization so far. That is why he will walk the path of redemption again once the truth is out because Pallavi will move out and not be in RR Mansion.