Ishq Mein...[Raghvi, Mandaar & Esha]

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Posted: 3 years ago
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Ishq mein hum tumhe kya bataye

Kis qadar chot khaaye hue hain...


I love this song man. First of all Sachet Tandon!!! Please.. uske upar fantabulous lyrics hain. Par video dekha kisine iss gaane ka? Meko toh samjh hi nhi aaya..

Agar dhoka nhi diya tha, aur galti ladke ki thi, to have misunderstood his gf toh ye apna dukhda kyun gaa raha tha? Like someone has wronged him?


Anyways! I was rambling. Lets come back to the matter at hand - Raghvi and their former partners.


When the Mandaar track was going on the forum had suddenly exploded into an outrage. Full on Pallavi bashing mode mein chala gaya tha. I mean kuch bhi anap shanap bake jaa rahe the log only because Pallavi had gone to the Deshmukh house. Mandaar was sick, she had been repeatedly told that only she could save his life so insaaniyat ke khaatir she had agreed. I mean, if I am told my mere presence would save someone's life - let alone he/she be a complete stranger, I would still go and I am not half the selfless messiah Pallavi is and the Deshmukhs were her family. Agreed they didn't treat her well but still they had taken her when she needed them.. right?


Yet, the forum had started a baseless Pallavi bashing session. Why? Because she was showing care for another man, and not Raghav. I had even posted something on it during that time.


I'll give the link here 👉


https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/post/158534844


People were bashing Pallavi then and now they are bashing Raghav. Why? He hasn't done anything yet. Only because he had once upon a time loved another woman. How dare he!!! He is a cheat. Wow! And then people are tensed that he'll sympathise with Esha knowing the truth and might feel guilty. Arre, obviously as a good person like Raghav is, he us bound to feel guilty knowing he has cursed and berated and hated a woman he had once loved who had apparantly done something out of love for him.


But wait, no.. like Pallavi cannot feel sympathy for Mandaar, neither can Raghav feel guilty for anyone except Pallavi.


I mean seriously people grow up! 🙄


We are not computers that we can just shut off our emotions and feelings. Pallavi taking care of her former husband for her parent's sanity and sake was completely justified. Yes she did make mistakes and created an imbalance of priorities but don't we all. We get lost and we find our way back again. Raghav on the other hand had been in love with Esha in the past, it is bound to be that he feels guilt or empathy for her.


We can't control our emotions only our actions. Untill and unless Raghav decides to act on his own violation (and not get drugged) on his (if ever produced which I don't think will) romantic feelings then he is not cheating.


I mean, I can't see him falling for his ex again, whatever she might have done. I mean Pallavi took a bullet for him and Raghav had overhauled his entire livelihood for her. He had swallowed more humiliation than humanly possible for her, he has left drinking for her, he has changed his method of conducting business for her, he had been ready to shoot himself for her.


I will get tired if I keep listening things these two have done and borne for each other. I donot think under any circumstance Raghav would even think of cheating on Pallavi. Fidelity matters a lot to him and he loves her now.


She might not be the only woman he has ever loved but she will be the last.


(And if the makers make him cheat on her, by the proper definition of that term, in his senses then first I will kill the makers, then I'll kill Sai for agreeing to this nonsense and then I'll file a petition for this show to end. 😊)


End of Rant.


And please no offense to anyone. Not a personal dig. Just my personal opinions.

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Posted: 3 years ago
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💯 I agree with everything you've written except one point put down below.


R is no where bashed even 5 percent of what P was subject to and I don't think he will also. I trust this forum members to give him a free pass. Because tuada kutta Tommy sadda kutta kutta.


I will trust Raghav till I'm presented with evidence showing him stray or be conflicted. Lagta nai it will happen though.

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Posted: 3 years ago
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Originally posted by: joliefemme

💯 I agree with everything you've written except one point put down below.


R is no where bashed even 5 percent of what P was subject to and I don't think he will also. I trust this forum members to give him a free pass. Because tuada kutta Tommy sadda kutta kutta.


I will trust Raghav till I'm presented with evidence showing him stray or be conflicted. Lagta nai it will happen though.


If he strays then there can't be a redemption track. Because for me, cheating is the ultimate endgame. That is it. I might still love you for the rest of our lives but I will never forgive you. Like never. I wouldn't stay with you, I wouldn't come back to you. Whatever the matter.


I don't think though that, that will be the case here. I for one wouldn't be able to digest that. 🙂

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Posted: 3 years ago
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Originally posted by: AnushkhaA

Ishq mein hum tumhe kya bataye

Kis qadar chot khaaye hue hain...


I love this song man. First of all Sachet Tandon!!! Please.. uske upar fantabulous lyrics hain. Par video dekha kisine iss gaane ka? Meko toh samjh hi nhi aaya..

Agar dhoka nhi diya tha, aur galti ladke ki thi, to have misunderstood his gf toh ye apna dukhda kyun gaa raha tha? Like someone has wronged him?


Anyways! I was rambling. Lets come back to the matter at hand - Raghvi and their former partners.


When the Mandaar track was going on the forum had suddenly exploded into an outrage. Full on Pallavi bashing mode mein chala gaya tha. I mean kuch bhi anap shanap bake jaa rahe the log only because Pallavi had gone to the Deshmukh house. Mandaar was sick, she had been repeatedly told that only she could save his life so insaaniyat ke khaatir she had agreed. I mean, if I am told my mere presence would save someone's life - let alone he/she be a complete stranger, I would still go and I am not half the selfless messiah Pallavi is and the Deshmukhs were her family. Agreed they didn't treat her well but still they had taken her when she needed them.. right?


Yet, the forum had started a baseless Pallavi bashing session. Why? Because she was showing care for another man, and not Raghav. I had even posted something on it during that time.


I'll give the link here 👉


https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/post/158534844


People were bashing Pallavi then and now they are bashing Raghav. Why? He hasn't done anything yet. Only because he had once upon a time loved another woman. How dare he!!! He is a cheat. Wow! And then people are tensed that he'll sympathise with Esha knowing the truth and might feel guilty. Arre, obviously as a good person like Raghav is, he us bound to feel guilty knowing he has cursed and berated and hated a woman he had once loved who had apparantly done something out of love for him.


But wait, no.. like Pallavi cannot feel sympathy for Mandaar, neither can Raghav feel guilty for anyone except Pallavi.


I mean seriously people grow up! 🙄


We are not computers that we can just shut off our emotions and feelings. Pallavi taking care of her former husband for her parent's sanity and sake was completely justified. Yes she did make mistakes and created an imbalance of priorities but don't we all. We get lost and we find our way back again. Raghav on the other hand had been in love with Esha in the past, it is bound to be that he feels guilt or empathy for her.


We can't control our emotions only our actions. Untill and unless Raghav decides to act on his own violation (and not get drugged) on his (if ever produced which I don't think will) romantic feelings then he is not cheating.

First and foremost what do you mean by romantic feelings ? Yes RR may not want to be with her or sleep with her or romance with her bcoz he’s a man who values fidelity more than anything and he’s not going to cheat on Pallavi intentionally but what about emotional cheating or let’s say emotional distress that’s he’s causing to Pallavi by repeatedly calling Easha her soulmate and that how he’s devastated by not getting his true soulmate bcoz she broke his trust and left . Well he definitely has no clue about the meaning of a true soulmate but after claiming multiple times about not being able to see Pallavi in pain how could he even think about hurting her sentiments this way ? You’ll say he’s a broken man but Pallavis heart is not made in stone either . I was like felt so much pain for that girl today when RR was talking about his soulmate Bs to her . Never thought RR could be so insensitive but he disappointed me


I mean, I can't see him falling for his ex again, whatever she might have done. I mean Pallavi took a bullet for him and Raghav had overhauled his entire livelihood for her. He had swallowed more humiliation than humanly possible for her, he has left drinking for her, he has changed his method of conducting business for her, he had been ready to shoot himself for her.

Yes he did all that but that time he was under the impression of his GF married to another man May be . Now that he saw her in front of him and alone he didn’t even bother to think about Pals and their married life anymore also not the fact that this girl was took the bullet meant for him and went on to behave erratically to destroy everything and everyone bcuz his college sweetheart made him remind him of his good old lovey dovey college days . I mean if he is driven by only hatred here how come he’s remembering their lovey dovey moments and intimate moments mostly and why did he smile (blush) when Farhad asked him about that woman ? He’s surely not over her love yet attest the makers showing that way only and that’s quite evident


I will get tired if I keep listening things these two have done and borne for each other. I donot think under any circumstance Raghav would even think of cheating on Pallavi. Fidelity matters a lot to him and he loves her now.

Yes I agree Under no circumstances RR is going to cheat on Pals or even think about it but that’s bcoz he’s married to her and as you said fidelity matters to him a lot . But then loving another woman while staying with another is not something any woman would take casually and it’s emotional cheating in a way if you ask me . No self respectful woman would agree to stay with a man who’s emotionally attached to another woman .

She might not be the only woman he has ever loved but she will be the last.

Ofcourse she’s not the only woman he ever loved and it’s ok to be someones last love but never ok to be someone’s backup love or should I say last resort . He loves fidelity, he married her ,he loves and respects her to the extreme but his heart and soul belongs to someone else . Would you even want to be with a man like this ? I know I can’t and I won’t .



(And if the makers make him cheat on her, by the proper definition of that term, in his senses then first I will kill the, then I'll kill Sai for agreeing to this nonsense and then I'll file a petition for this show to end. 😊)

Well makers are going to show more and more cringeworthy scenes and more and more heartbreak for Pallavi followed by an Innocent Ragahv who was only feeling guilty for misunderstanding his college sweetheart and that’s why he was doing all these but in his mind he always knew that He’s Pallavis husband and he wont cross that fine line of cheating on his wifey . Pallavi on The other hand is going to be support his actions bcoz she has no other work no ambitions no career goals nothing and her only job is to understand Raghavs pain and bear the burnt of blasts from his past as well as shield him from all problems caused by himself only 👏


Plz no Offense meant to your post to anything . I just thought of writing about my POV in your post. Thank you 🙏🏻






End of Rant.


And please no offense to anyone. Not a personal dig. Just my personal opinions.

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Posted: 3 years ago
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Good one! 😂

What I meant by romantic feelings means emotional bonding. I meant what he will only feel for Esha is guilt and a sense of empathy which we all feel for a human being. I did not say love. He was sharing his pain of rejection, of his trust being broken. He wasn't telling her that she is his only soulmate or will remai so.. whatever. He meant he had thought that and then he got his heart broken.

There is no path made of Pallavi being emotionally cheated. Because Raghav doesn't feel any sort of love for Esha and neither will he suddenly fall in love with her after knowing the truth. He might only feel bad and if gone to some extent, a platonic fondness which one might feel for a friend who had been more than that.. ONCE UPON A TIME.

Thats what I meant. Sorry if anyone misunderstood.

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Posted: 3 years ago
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Originally posted by: AnushkhaA

Good one! 😂

What I meant by romantic feelings means emotional bonding. I meant what he will only feel for Esha is guilt and a sense of empathy which we all feel for a human being. I did not say love. He was sharing his pain of rejection, of his trust being broken. He wasn't telling her that she is his only soulmate or will remai so.. whatever. He meant he had thought that and then he got his heart broken.

There is no path made of Pallavi being emotionally cheated. Because Raghav doesn't feel any sort of love for Esha and neither will he suddenly fall in love with her after knowing the truth. He might only feel bad and if gone to some extent, a platonic fondness which one might feel for a friend who had been more than that.. ONCE UPON A TIME.

Thats what I meant. Sorry if anyone misunderstood.

Why are you saying sorry dear . I understood your post very well and agree to most of it but as I said for arguments sake I wrote my POV there.

As for RR won’t cheat on Pallavi ever I agree on that 100% . He won’t do that consciously . Never ever

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Posted: 3 years ago
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Agree completely. Agar aisa kuch ulta sidha dikhaya to I m done total Tata bye bye to the show🙏🙏🙏🙏


If they don't have anything better to show PLZZ revamp the entire cast n create a new story. Don't over cook the dal n make it a soppy mess plz. A humble request to makers.

I ll also join in ur petition if such a thing does happen which s very unlikely tough..

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Posted: 3 years ago
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Lot of parallels can be drawn between Mandar and Esha track. However, the problem is not Raghav helping Esha, the problem is the way he is reacting.


Pallavi was very clear about her feelings for Mandar. She was dumbed down to a great extent but Mandar was nothing more an obligation that she took care of for the sake of her Deshmukh's.


However, the problem with Raghav is he's extreme in his exhibitions of emotions and impulsive. He is still harbouring the old wounds and that makes him conflicted. We know Raghav for sure will never... Like NEVER... will cheat on Pallavi. He loves her with the depth of his soul but his reactions may cause a dent on her trust if he continues. He has a lot of emotional baggage and Pallavi has been willingly offloading the same. However, it's not fair on Raghav's part to spill the pain of his ex on her.


He doesn't know how to handle his emotions. And in this, if Esha went away as a sacrifice, he will be guilty and sad. It is going to be a challenge for him to manage himself and yet keep Pallavi assured.


Another thing is Pallavi was extremely transparent with Raghav all through the Mandar track. Whether it was the bangles or him misbehaving with her... She told him all. But I can't say the same about Raghav... His insecurity and fear of Pallavi's reaction might stop him from sharing what is happening around him and Esha. Hiding and withdrawing is his defense mechanism... I hope I am wrong here... Coz that would be the major lapse.


Baaki I am sure makers aren't fools to kill Raghav by making him cheat on Pallavi. But sure enough, he needs to tone down and let go. Otherwise, the question is already hanging in the air, "Esha ke hone se tumhe itna farak kyun pad raha hai?"


Pallavi never loved Mandar but Raghav was deeply in love with Esha. But if Raghav doesn't tone down, her brains will go on an overdrive and both will pay the price.

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Posted: 3 years ago
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Originally posted by: euphoric

Lot of parallels can be drawn between Mandar and Esha track. However, the problem is not Raghav helping Esha, the problem is the way he is reacting.


Pallavi was very clear about her feelings for Mandar. She was dumbed down to a great extent but Mandar was nothing more an obligation that she took care of for the sake of her Deshmukh's.


However, the problem with Raghav is he's extreme in his exhibitions of emotions and impulsive. He is still harbouring the old wounds and that makes him conflicted. We know Raghav for sure will never... Like NEVER... will cheat on Pallavi. He loves her with the depth of his soul but his reactions may cause a dent on her trust if he continues. He has a lot of emotional baggage and Pallavi has been willingly offloading the same. However, it's not fair on Raghav's part to spill the pain of his ex on her.


He doesn't know how to handle his emotions. And in this, if Esha went away as a sacrifice, he will be guilty and sad. It is going to be a challenge for him to manage himself and yet keep Pallavi assured.


Another thing is Pallavi was extremely transparent with Raghav all through the Mandar track. Whether it was the bangles or him misbehaving with her... She told him all. But I can't say the same about Raghav... His insecurity and fear of Pallavi's reaction might stop him from sharing what is happening around him and Esha. Hiding and withdrawing is his defense mechanism... I hope I am wrong here... Coz that would be the major lapse.


Baaki I am sure makers aren't fools to kill Raghav by making him cheat on Pallavi. But sure enough, he needs to tone down and let go. Otherwise, the question is already hanging in the air, "Esha ke hone se tumhe itna farak kyun pad raha hai?"


Pallavi never loved Mandar but Raghav was deeply in love with Esha. But if Raghav doesn't tone down, her brains will go on an overdrive and both will pay the price.


As long as you're in with me, I shall safely tide this track 🤗


Meri tazbu hai tu.

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Posted: 3 years ago
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Originally posted by: joliefemme


As long as you're in with me, I shall safely tide this track 🤗


Meri tazbu hai tu.


🤗🤗

Hum saath saath hain ❤️

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