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Originally posted by: AreYaar

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Malini ka saach also she didn't feel the need to convey it to BS and this shows her no hope from him. Bata ke bhi kya kerna... let his enjoy his breakfast on same table with Malini... I love she gives a damn.... and i want her to continue this way...

so right.. his sorrys are all rata hua answer now... Kewal bolne se nahi hota you have to show somethin... Nanhi see jaan.. wow... what about Imlie's feeling... can he not understand what is she goin thru... staying in same roof with a women whom she has no vishwas on and who is carrying his child...

I also liked her composed behavior with Aparna... Aparna's Thankyou was useless for me as still she is all worried about child which happened in such a way... she is ashamed but abhi bhi no thouht for Imlie's rights... Even i give damn for this haq and all.. Imlie is goin to college and she is so confident of herself is what i care... I just don't want her to break her shield... she can keep doing for these people or not but not expect anything in return.. and keep working for her own self... her studies , her career.... aur aage nikal jaye in sab se.... let Didi be in her obsessed world...

Coming to the baby... i still think it is fake and Anu don't know it... Malini is always quiet when Anu discusses the bacha... so yet to see that...

Overall - Epi was all disjoint but i liked it coz Imlie was a real Imlie, a strong girl who is there to pull herself out with pride with whatever is thrown at her and carry on with progress... inorin all that she need to ignore... BS and T's se i have lost all expectation so no hurt...

Originally posted by: akipog

I mean for Aditya and Imlie to stay in same room as per birdie ppl . Even I'm not sure y such unnecessary delay wrt dd track when trps r falling 🙄 let's c how this unveil

Lmao and who cares what some trolls say on Twitter? They claim to know everything yet ghanta pata hai anyways this isn't the place for talking about them

Originally posted by: AreYaar

@bold: Yes, he is not in the frame of mind to understand right now. Yeh apne time se hi samjhega jab samajhna hoga. Aise hote hain kuch log jinko jitna marzi samjha lo, they will only understand when they want to.....usse pehle nahin budge karega chattaan.

As I was saying some days back, it will likely come down to a moment when he will have to make a clear choice about who to trust - tab ho jaayegi sudden epiphany about what was so obvious all along and jo isko Imlie saamne se directly bolti rahi but he didn't listen/understand.

Some truths are too horrifying to process and it's a self-defense mechanism to try and stick to the portions you feel your mind can handle.....Adi seems to be going that route vis a vis this truth....he can still handle the "nanhi jaan" truth more than the truth of M having drugged, then raped him and the baby being a result of that rape.

As for izzat ki value....lol woh toh convenience ke hisaab se aati jaati rehti hai Aditya babu ke liye....kabhi inke liye naukri sab kuch hoti hai, kabhi inko naukri waapis nahin chahiye and he'd rather sit and be Imlie ka tutor, ab now he's like doesn't matter if people think I have two wives at home - bas aise hi chalaa lenge indefinitely 🤔

But ek theme consistent hai off late....Adi's tendency to want to give up in the face of any setback.....court case karna hi nahin chahta tha, then he didn't even want to make any effort to get his job back....then he didn't even make any effort to get Imlie's college reinstatement done.....bas yeh kidnapping ke liye kar liya effort but other than that his overall attitude is "jo ho gaya so ho gaya, ab kya farak padta hai"🤔

If this is makers ka attempt at role reversal ki pehle Imlie always wanted to keep pulling her hand back when Adi was fighting for their relationship/wanting to reveal the truth of their marriage and now Adi is pulling back from showing that trust in Imlie or doing anything to really get her her haq, even then it's a poorly done parallel.....Imlie's phase of being hesitant to reveal the truth/supporting Adi in revealing the truth didn't involve such a direct lack of vishwaas.....us phase mein phir bhi vishwaas tha even if she disagreed with his stance of telling the truth to everyone cuz she felt they'll be hurt. Jabki whatever Adi is doing right now is making him look like he doesn't even care anymore if he's lost that vishwaas, bas kisi tarhaan chalaate raho kaise bhi regardless😕. And the stakes are so much worse now with this rape baby angle....so yeah, if the makers think this is some role reversal, that's not flying either.

Interesting parallel AY. I did not see that at all till you pointed it out😊

But yes in a way tables have turned. Then it was Aditya's turn to fight in a solo battle for their relationship and now its imlie's turn. Imlie is selfless so her reason to step back was "others will get hurt", BBSB is selfish so his reason is "I will get hurt"😆

I think more than lack of vishwaas, this track is to show how BBSB is operating under denial and delusion to avoid dealing with the betrayal and now the unwanted baby. At this point its not that he doesn't know, its more like he doesn't want to acknowledge. He is in his cocoon and is happy to live on there as imlie is with him.

Copy pasting my take from the other thread:

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BBSB does know that Malini attempted to molest him in full consciousness and he does believe that Imlie has been saying the truth all the while. It was not easy for him to accept that and to say let the court decide Malini's fate.

Malini complicated the already complicated situation by playing the baby card. Now BBSB seems to have completely shut off his brain because he cannot handle the truth. That he was molested and that now there is a baby in picture is too much for him to bear. It is easier for him to delude himself that Malini is also a victim. It makes his new reality more palatable. And BBSB as always is taking the easier path.

The reason Anu and M were so easily able to manipulate him was because he was ready to be Manipulated

This was also again a point raised in court scene. Imlie was yelling at him that I literally showed you the video of didi attempting to molest you. What more should i do? How should i prove that didi is the culprit?

Unless BBSB is willing to see the truth, no proof will be useful. Nothing imlie does can open his eyes. You can't wake a person who is pretending to be asleep.

This is basically BBSB attempting to protect himself in a situation he cannot handle. His answer is to run away. To ignore and to pretend everything is all right.

He is happy to let imlie decide Malini and the baby's future because he cant handle it

He is sticking to his truth that he is imlie's husband. He cant accept Malini. Baki sab he will let imlie handle the way she sees fit

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Running away and pretending nothing is wrong seems to be his default response to traumatic incidents. This is inline with his reaction to forced marriage.

Right now i think the one way Aditya will finally confront didi is if she does something that will make imlie say I am packing my potli..bye😆

As long as Imlie is with him, bbsb will continue to feel protected and will not confront his problems or the source of the problems. He will continue to ignore Malini and all her machinations.

I think imlie leaving might trump being assaulted and the baby. And he will be forced to open his eyes. Didi is operating under world of delusion if she thinks Imlie leaving will smoothen things for her😆

Few hours imlie was kidnapped, BBSB thought AC might be responsible😆 Of course he managed to push it under "things not to think more about" once she is back.. because it doesn't matter when imlie is with him😆

PS: I am yet to watch this week's episodes.. this is my take after reading through the posts😆

Originally posted by: jojo_mojo

Running away and pretending nothing is wrong seems to be his default response to traumatic incidents. This is inline with his reaction to forced marriage.

Right now i think the one way Aditya will finally confront didi is if she does something that will make imlie say I am packing my potli..bye😆

As long as Imlie is with him, bbsb will continue to feel protected and will not confront his problems or the source of the problems. He will continue to ignore Malini and all her machinations.

I think imlie leaving might trump being assaulted and the baby. And he will be forced to open his eyes. Didi is operating under world of delusion if she thinks Imlie leaving will smoothen things for her😆

Few hours imlie was kidnapped, BBSB thought AC might be responsible😆 Of course he managed to push it under "things not to think more about" once she is back.. because it doesn't matter when imlie is with him😆

PS: I am yet to watch this week's episodes.. this is my take after reading through the posts😆

@bold1: Totally agree.....that does indeed seem to be his default response to trauma. He's an escapist on a basic level and only steps up to face his trauma after he's taken a looooong time to process it and accept it.

@bold2: Re: Imlie leaving.....so I think that ship has sailed.....they've already done a back and forth so many times about Imlie leaving or disappearing that it's no longer going to feel effective or impactful. She has already faced things as huge as watching the visual of another woman claiming to sleep with her husband and now also seeing same woman claiming a baby with her husband. When these two things couldn't make her leave, toh aage kya jaayegi.

Jaayegi bhi toh two minutes mein waapis aa jaayegi....they've made a joke out of her leaving toh ab koi seriously bhi nahin lega if she claims grand heartbreak as the reason for leaving. She's already done that the morning after Janmashtami and kya farak padaa.....aa hi gayi waapis. They'll just do bait and switch drama of showing Imlie feeling conflicted about the baby and wondering if she should leave so Adi can nibhaao Papa hone ki zimmedaari without feeling "distracted" by her......but actually toh nahin lagta mujhe jaayegi enough to actually make him feel the sense of loss.

So since I don't see Imlie leaving, the chances are higher of Malini escalating things to the point of trying to kill Imlie......looping back to the point of trauma - Adi will need a bigger trauma to jolt him out of the escapist mode he is in regarding the Malini related trauma. Imlie talking about leaving still leaves him with the feeling that he can talk her out of it or chase after her.....but seeing her harmed, that too at Malini's hands might be the ultimate hitting home of what Imlie has been trying to tell him since so long.....that distinct visual coming through might be the wake up call.

*Edit: Just to add.....Imlie being harmed by Malini or AC will be a sort of manifestation of all that he has been trying to brush under the carpet and avoid.....a wake up call that avoidance has escalated things to this point that the evil duo he's trying to zone out now feel emboldened enough to kill Imlie......that is the jolt he needs to face for where his avoidance has led him.

Same way he drowned in remorse for not having faced the truth of his marriage with Imlie since he felt it was forced on him, he should face the remorse of not having faced the truth of Malini for so long either and created more problems for Imlie yet again.....to the point of her possibly losing her life.

Originally posted by: AreYaar

Yes, they will definitely try to link the debate topic either to the current situation between Adi-Imlie regarding trust/love/marriage or they may try to make it about general upliftment vis a vis Imlie talking about her dreams and goals in life.

Malini’s goal seems to be to stop Adi from going to pick up Imlie at college. Doesn’t seem like she actually cares about the debate yet 🤷‍♀️….unless that changes later.

She doesn't care isko bas khud dste oe jaana hai kisi bhi tarah but I think it would be nice if the debate is the relative topic that is if they bother to show it on detail otherwise they would think that didi ki scheming is more important to show and bas imlie ko exit karte huye dikha denge hall se.. though if it 9s a relevant topic than I wanted adi to hear her pov and her thoughts more clearly Epping it aside of their marriage as in more in a general way for it to register or I can hope caz aise isko bolte rahoge and isne nahi sunana kisi bhi tarah caz iska mental block aa jaata hai. Mr is pro in suppressing actual issues and is bailbhuddhi number 1 hamesha se frustrating raha hai in not tackling the actual things.

Originally posted by: naadanmasakalli

She doesn't care isko bas khud dste oe jaana hai kisi bhi tarah but I think it would be nice if the debate is the relative topic that is if they bother to show it on detail otherwise they would think that didi ki scheming is more important to show and bas imlie ko exit karte huye dikha denge hall se.. though if it 9s a relevant topic than I wanted adi to hear her pov and her thoughts more clearly Epping it aside of their marriage as in more in a general way for it to register or I can hope caz aise isko bolte rahoge and isne nahi sunana kisi bhi tarah caz iska mental block aa jaata hai. Mr is pro in suppressing actual issues and is bailbhuddhi number 1 hamesha se frustrating raha hai in not tackling the actual things.

Oh LMAO itna debate setup simply to show Imlie exiting the hall in the end and directly cutting to Didi ki scheming? Hey bhagwaan😆......haan I guess we should be prepared either way.....Imlie ka college related stuff waise bhi kahaan dikhaate hain detail mein....they are usually more focused on the planning/plotting or whatever negativity they can insert.

Originally posted by: AreYaar

Oh LMAO itna debate setup simply to show Imlie exiting the hall in the end and directly cutting to Didi ki scheming? Hey bhagwaan😆......haan I guess we should be prepared either way.....Imlie ka college related stuff waise bhi kahaan dikhaate hain detail mein....they are usually more focused on the planning/plotting or whatever negativity they can insert.

I would love agar debate dikhayein didi ki bakwaas se better hi hoga who wants to listen bacha kaisa hai but knowing them I was just putting a thought out lol 🤣 who knows God Forbid and thu my kaali zabaan imlie toh peeche khadi thi he is saving didi from the sez worker lady hi am ready for that too yuck thu mera kaala muh

Originally posted by: AreYaar

I think if people are expecting Adi-Imlie to become some grand romantic couple doing daily romantic scenes the moment ST turns 18, they might be in for a disappointment on that front also😆......this isn't the show where they need to do detailed scenes to prove how much of a "proper married couple" they are. They are evolving the relationship at its own pace......and their focus seems to be mainly on how much drama they can show in Adi-Imlie's lives rather than sappy romance😆.

To be brutally honest they will suck as a sappy romance wala pair too🤷‍♀️ it just doesn't work and looks cringy the few times they have tried so I would rather not but I just find his whole thing hilarious as if they haven't done extremely close intimate sequences as it is what do that has to do with age lmao🤣 It is not like they haven't done anything in close physical proximity caz not 18 what are people expecting it to be turned into some web series of alt balaji in semi P**n category ke 18 hona zaroori hai. Maybe they need to listen to ST herself saying she is not comfortable doing such things and which is why she has said no to web stuff too it is nothing but her own choice and I do not blame her choice to choose content and substance to perform over lusty crap anyway and I hope she never falls in that trap

Originally posted by: AreYaar

@bold1: Totally agree.....that does indeed seem to be his default response to trauma. He's an escapist on a basic level and only steps up to face his trauma after he's taken a looooong time to process it and accept it.

@bold2: Re: Imlie leaving.....so I think that ship has sailed.....they've already done a back and forth so many times about Imlie leaving or disappearing that it's no longer going to feel effective or impactful. She has already faced things as huge as watching the visual of another woman claiming to sleep with her husband and now also seeing same woman claiming a baby with her husband. When these two things couldn't make her leave, toh aage kya jaayegi.

Jaayegi bhi toh two minutes mein waapis aa jaayegi....they've made a joke out of her leaving toh ab koi seriously bhi nahin lega if she claims grand heartbreak as the reason for leaving. She's already done that the morning after Janmashtami and kya farak padaa.....aa hi gayi waapis. They'll just do bait and switch drama of showing Imlie feeling conflicted about the baby and wondering if she should leave so Adi can nibhaao Papa hone ki zimmedaari without feeling "distracted" by her......but actually toh nahin lagta mujhe jaayegi enough to actually make him feel the sense of loss.

So since I don't see Imlie leaving, the chances are higher of Malini escalating things to the point of trying to kill Imlie......looping back to the point of trauma - Adi will need a bigger trauma to jolt him out of the escapist mode he is in regarding the Malini related trauma. Imlie talking about leaving still leaves him with the feeling that he can talk her out of it or chase after her.....but seeing her harmed, that too at Malini's hands might be the ultimate hitting home of what Imlie has been trying to tell him since so long.....that distinct visual coming through might be the wake up call.

*Edit: Just to add.....Imlie being harmed by Malini or AC will be a sort of manifestation of all that he has been trying to brush under the carpet and avoid.....a wake up call that avoidance has escalated things to this point that the evil duo he's trying to zone out now feel emboldened enough to kill Imlie......that is the jolt he needs to face for where his avoidance has led him.

Same way he drowned in remorse for not having faced the truth of his marriage with Imlie since he felt it was forced on him, he should face the remorse of not having faced the truth of Malini for so long either and created more problems for Imlie yet again.....to the point of her possibly losing her life.

Yes and not imlie disappearing xaz then he actually doesn’t see her in danger. We need a reboot of ambulance adi but like her being in grave grave danger her life leaving her tohi 7sko hosh aayenge warna nahi aate isko caz isma bhi default ho gaya hai ke yeh toh ladh ke aa sakti hai as he was chill and saying ke humein pata hai ladh logi kisi se bhi toh hum kya karein chinta but zaroori nahi hai ladna toh aa jaayeinge I guess am trying to hold onto some umeed with him saying it is still a safety issue for her since she just got out of traffickers so kahin shayad loop back kar lein but am not holding my breath for it and if that was supposed to be a clue for us it was badly done

Originally posted by: AreYaar

Yes, they will definitely try to link the debate topic either to the current situation between Adi-Imlie regarding trust/love/marriage or they may try to make it about general upliftment vis a vis Imlie talking about her dreams and goals in life.

Malini’s goal seems to be to stop Adi from going to pick up Imlie at college. Doesn’t seem like she actually cares about the debate yet 🤷‍♀️….unless that changes later.

We were right, it was related to their situation… hopefully, Imlie will be taking a practical decision soon using her brains while Adiis going to realize that bhavnavo mein behkar he took the wrong decision