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Posted: 4 years ago
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Pallavi -is concerned about their future, and she does not want Raghav's unlawful business practises to endanger him, their family, or anybody else. She desires a worry free life with him, even if it means that he makes less profit in business. It is not about her values because she already broke them by refusing to turn in diamonds to the cops. Her love for Raghav already won out over morals there 😆.


Raghav - not only understands the value of money, but also its power; money not only makes him feel good, but it also makes him feel powerful; he believes that money provides him power, which allows him to keep his family safe and happy.

Who is correct? Both of them, in my opinion, are correct in their standpoint , but they are unable to communicate them properly.


Instead of throwing heavy OTT dialogues,

Raghav only had to ask : What saved Vijay and Sharda Deshmukh's lives - love or money? . DSE was ‘legal’ but did it make life any easier?


Pallavi simply had to question Raghav : what if It was Farhad in Abhishek's place? Will money be able to make up for his loss? Is Raghav in the same position as he was ten years ago? Is it necessary to display the same amount of financial desperation now? Why should past traumas put the future in jeopardy?

Some hard hitting facts are sufficient to get arguments across, have a discussion, and establish a middle ground, but this is an ITV daily show, and how will they serve us episodes six days a week if Raghav and Pallavi fix it this quickly through dialogue?


Something has to give either/both of them a jolt in order to stop the ego clash and start a dialogue.


What exactly will this something be - ( strictly my assumptions do not come at me if makers show anything different )


According to the dialogues spoken so far in this track, (assuming they are foreshadowing and not mere mentions for dramatic effect),

Farhad might get caught in the crossfire and take the fall for Raghav. Previously, I thought it would be Pallavi, but now the chances of that seem minimal. Maybe then Raghav will understand he needs to adopt safer ways of conducting business.


Pallavi has already experienced some harsh business realities as a result of working in DSE, albeit not as severe as Raghav's due to the large difference in scale of business, but working independently, in my opinion, will not open her eyes to anything new, but will only create emotional separation between Raghav and Pallavi , hurting ego of provider in Raghav.


There is a recent spoiler photo of someone pointing a gun at Pallavi; I hope it's one of Raghav's rivals, and they abduct or at least attempt to kidnap her; then she will understand how money (and the power it gives) plays a key role in allowing Raghav to reach her quickly. Raghav's business is more complicated than just paying customs duties; he has business rivals and a whole network to deal with. Raghav's love of money isn't just about satisfying materialistic needs; it's also about his instinct to keep his family safe and the power money gives him to do so.


Whatever it is (since writers are lazy and I have no faith in them), I hope Raghav and Pallavi find a happy middle ground and that the makers don't show one party simply giving in.


They should technically (imo) address Pallavi's non-confrontational behaviour as well as Raghav's anger issues through/after this business track. Will they pull it off? I have my doubts.....


P.S. Please hire a good dialogue writer for Pallavi; I'm fed up with writers' incompetence!😡 Her point of view is sound, however the dialogues she is given detracts from the overall flow and mood.


Tagging few members but everyone fill free to jump in and discuss. Thank you

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Posted: 4 years ago
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I agree with you that Pallavi isnt given good dialogues. I understand her point of view but many may not and hence the need for a post like this.


Yes both are right and both need to talk to sort out their differences. I agree about being non confrontational and anger issues. They need to be able to be vulnerable with each other, talk and communicate, not take solo decisions regarding things that affect both, he needs to take her opinion on his family matters and not consider her an outsider.


Also, yes Pallavi has already compromised on her morals yesterday. Their future is at stake and hence she's taking these extreme steps.


He's hurt because she is not allowing him to be the provider, she's emotionally shutting herself to him. He will come around and understand her perspective. She will give in as well to find a middle ground.

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I didn't appreciate Raghav manhandling Pallavi though it was done in a low-key manner. 🥱

Even in their uglier fights or confrontations, including the ones in his drunken state, he never behaved so aggressively with her , once he did handle her roughly when they were technically enemies but even then he apologised and put ointmen, behaving in such an aggressive manner now when he's in love with her doesn't make sense neither did it add anything new to story.

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Originally posted by: Couch.Potato

Pallavi -is concerned about their future, and she does not want Raghav's unlawful business practises to endanger him, their family, or anybody else. She desires a worry free life with him, even if it means that he makes less profit in business. It is not about her values because she already broke them by refusing to turn in diamonds to the cops. Her love for Raghav already won out over morals there 😆.


Raghav - not only understands the value of money, but also its power; money not only makes him feel good, but it also makes him feel powerful; he believes that money provides him power, which allows him to keep his family safe and happy.

Who is correct? Both of them, in my opinion, are correct in their standpoint , but they are unable to communicate them properly.


Instead of throwing heavy OTT dialogues,

Raghav only had to ask : What saved Vijay and Sharda Deshmukh's lives - love or money? . DSE was ‘legal’ but did it make life any easier?


Pallavi simply had to question Raghav : what if It was Farhad in Abhishek's place? Will money be able to make up for his loss? Is Raghav in the same position as he was ten years ago? Is it necessary to display the same amount of financial desperation now? Why should past traumas put the future in jeopardy?

Some hard hitting facts are sufficient to get arguments across, have a discussion, and establish a middle ground, but this is an ITV daily show, and how will they serve us episodes six days a week if Raghav and Pallavi fix it this quickly through dialogue?


Something has to give either/both of them a jolt in order to stop the ego clash and start a dialogue.


What exactly will this something be - ( strictly my assumptions do not come at me if makers show anything different )


According to the dialogues spoken so far in this track, (assuming they are foreshadowing and not mere mentions for dramatic effect),

Farhad might get caught in the crossfire and take the fall for Raghav. Previously, I thought it would be Pallavi, but now the chances of that seem minimal. Maybe then Raghav will understand he needs to adopt safer ways of conducting business.


Pallavi has already experienced some harsh business realities as a result of working in DSE, albeit not as severe as Raghav's due to the large difference in scale of business, but working independently, in my opinion, will not open her eyes to anything new, but will only create emotional separation between Raghav and Pallavi , hurting ego of provider in Raghav.


There is a recent spoiler photo of someone pointing a gun at Pallavi; I hope it's one of Raghav's rivals, and they abduct or at least attempt to kidnap her; then she will understand how money (and the power it gives) plays a key role in allowing Raghav to reach her quickly. Raghav's business is more complicated than just paying customs duties; he has business rivals and a whole network to deal with. Raghav's love of money isn't just about satisfying materialistic needs; it's also about his instinct to keep his family safe and the power money gives him to do so.


Whatever it is (since writers are lazy and I have no faith in them), I hope Raghav and Pallavi find a happy middle ground and that the makers don't show one party simply giving in.


They should technically (imo) address Pallavi's non-confrontational behaviour as well as Raghav's anger issues through/after this business track. Will they pull it off? I have my doubts.....


P.S. Please hire a good dialogue writer for Pallavi; I'm fed up with writers' incompetence!😡 Her point of view is sound, however the dialogues she is given detracts from the overall flow and mood.


Tagging few members but everyone fill free to jump in and discuss. Thank you

I totally agree….well written.

Her dialogues need to be a bit more straight forward. Right now it seems like either she is asking him to change or wants him to stop illegal work or wants him to realize money is not important. They should focus on one thing. Stick with the love and family is more important and the rest will come in play.

She has understood that raghav values money and why. She just has to figure out how to get him to realize that his family doesnt care about how much money he has. They love him for him and with him adopting legal ways will not make them poor. There might be setbacks but he has incurred huge losses due to her so why can’t he now?

Ok i don’t understand business so clearly am the wrong person to judge what he does etc. So wont say anything about that.

Anyway the creatives should focus on Pallavi proving to him that money doesnt matter. He has been burried under layers of hurt where it was money that brought him satisfaction. She needs to dig deep and remove those layers and make him realize that his family and the people he loves love him for being him. Not raghav rao the rich businessman.

I think if they stick to that it will go a lot better.

And yes if they communicated, and explained the way u said, the track would be done in one day so they have to add all this tadka😆

Also i wish she would lock herself and him somewhere and talk and maybe have some anger romance. Wouldnt that be fun to see😂. And try and seduce him while he is angry. That would be awesome.


Also as a side….i didnt know that raghav bought all those saris for her. I thought they were from her shop🤔 if those were bought by him, some of them were literally not up to par

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Posted: 4 years ago
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To be honest I like the way they are handling this track till now…especially the last two episodes…good job by the team..Raghav was already getting cornered from all ends with Keerthi’s kand, Sunny annoying him day in day out..his constant lies to Pallavi, Laxmi’s threats…Raghav Pallavi confrontations was the climax, his frustrations were piling up, he was bound to buckle…Pallavi not relenting is going fuel it further

On the other side Pallavi had built a larger than life image of him in her mind..why not…she knows he loves her beyond anything…he promised to change for her, he promised to stop his illegal business deals, he stayed at Deshmukhs as a cook only for her, he was ready to go to jail and as well as kill himself for her..but when she got to know that he lied, she feels betrayed and him trying to defend his lies and mistakes is only creating trust issues in him…

On the surface it may look like Raghav’s pragmatism vs Pallavi idealism but lot many events have also led to this rift..

Both are right and wrong at many levels…Raghav should have never given her a promise which he never intended to fulfill…his fear of loosing her made him do that but that’s his problem, he didn’t realize how she would feel when she gets to know the truth..he took her feelings for granted…relationship doesn’t work that way…

Pallavi is too trusting & forgiving which did nothing good for her…she never holds the Deshmukhs responsible for any wrongdoing, she forgave Raghav in no time after he defamed her and forced marriage…she never held Amma responsible even after knowing she was the reason behind the forced marriage…her nature is her biggest enemy…

Raghav is right in wanting to deal his business the way he wants especially after the success he has seen but he is wrong in refusing to see the impending danger he is putting him & his family to..till the fall is taken by the likes of Abishek & Harish it’s just a collateral damage but the day it’s going to be one of his loved ones he will realize where he went wrong probably that’s what the dialogues are foreshadowing…

Pallavi is right in her objections to his illegal ways…any wife would do the same..but her way of going about it by questioning his morals is not going to help…her intention is to make him realize his misconceptions but she holding a moral high ground and trying to guilt trip him will not help the cause…both will have a deep fall and hurt each other even more before they raise together…that’s their journey and I am loving it..

Good job by the writers, directors, actors and the entire team 👍

Happy to see Shivi back to her pre marriage looks, she looked beautiful in the recent promo…Sai is killing as angry Raghav…his swag his sarcasm.. it’s a treat to watch Raghav and Pallavi holding their grounds..

Edited by Anu1975 - 4 years ago
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Posted: 4 years ago
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I didn't appreciate Raghav manhandling Pallavi though it was done in a low-key manner. 🥱

Even in their uglier fights or confrontations, including the ones in his drunken state, he never behaved so aggressively with her , once he did handle her roughly when they were technically enemies but even then he apologised and put ointmen, behaving in such an aggressive manner now when he's in love with her doesn't make sense neither did it add anything new to story.


Yes, Raghav manhandling Pallavi which is shown for few seconds but at the same time he moved off when she said you are hurting me .

i am not favoring ragahv but he was hurt and sad , his love did not understand him when he needed her more emotionally.

At same time Pallu when was in problems , he was there to support here even without thinking she was wrong or right ….

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Originally posted by: Couch.Potato

Pallavi -is concerned about their future, and she does not want Raghav's unlawful business practises to endanger him, their family, or anybody else. She desires a worry free life with him, even if it means that he makes less profit in business. It is not about her values because she already broke them by refusing to turn in diamonds to the cops. Her love for Raghav already won out over morals there 😆.


Raghav - not only understands the value of money, but also its power; money not only makes him feel good, but it also makes him feel powerful; he believes that money provides him power, which allows him to keep his family safe and happy.

Who is correct? Both of them, in my opinion, are correct in their standpoint , but they are unable to communicate them properly.


Instead of throwing heavy OTT dialogues,

Raghav only had to ask : What saved Vijay and Sharda Deshmukh's lives - love or money? . DSE was ‘legal’ but did it make life any easier?


Pallavi simply had to question Raghav : what if It was Farhad in Abhishek's place? Will money be able to make up for his loss? Is Raghav in the same position as he was ten years ago? Is it necessary to display the same amount of financial desperation now? Why should past traumas put the future in jeopardy?

Some hard hitting facts are sufficient to get arguments across, have a discussion, and establish a middle ground, but this is an ITV daily show, and how will they serve us episodes six days a week if Raghav and Pallavi fix it this quickly through dialogue?


Something has to give either/both of them a jolt in order to stop the ego clash and start a dialogue.


What exactly will this something be - ( strictly my assumptions do not come at me if makers show anything different )


According to the dialogues spoken so far in this track, (assuming they are foreshadowing and not mere mentions for dramatic effect),

Farhad might get caught in the crossfire and take the fall for Raghav. Previously, I thought it would be Pallavi, but now the chances of that seem minimal. Maybe then Raghav will understand he needs to adopt safer ways of conducting business.


Pallavi has already experienced some harsh business realities as a result of working in DSE, albeit not as severe as Raghav's due to the large difference in scale of business, but working independently, in my opinion, will not open her eyes to anything new, but will only create emotional separation between Raghav and Pallavi , hurting ego of provider in Raghav.


There is a recent spoiler photo of someone pointing a gun at Pallavi; I hope it's one of Raghav's rivals, and they abduct or at least attempt to kidnap her; then she will understand how money (and the power it gives) plays a key role in allowing Raghav to reach her quickly. Raghav's business is more complicated than just paying customs duties; he has business rivals and a whole network to deal with. Raghav's love of money isn't just about satisfying materialistic needs; it's also about his instinct to keep his family safe and the power money gives him to do so.


Whatever it is (since writers are lazy and I have no faith in them), I hope Raghav and Pallavi find a happy middle ground and that the makers don't show one party simply giving in.


They should technically (imo) address Pallavi's non-confrontational behaviour as well as Raghav's anger issues through/after this business track. Will they pull it off? I have my doubts.....


P.S. Please hire a good dialogue writer for Pallavi; I'm fed up with writers' incompetence!😡 Her point of view is sound, however the dialogues she is given detracts from the overall flow and mood.


Tagging few members but everyone fill free to jump in and discuss. Thank you

most sensible post I read after yesterday’s episode . Thanks a lot for tagging me 🤗
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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: Couch.Potato

I didn't appreciate Raghav manhandling Pallavi though it was done in a low-key manner. 🥱

Even in their uglier fights or confrontations, including the ones in his drunken state, he never behaved so aggressively with her , once he did handle her roughly when they were technically enemies but even then he apologised and put ointmen, behaving in such an aggressive manner now when he's in love with her doesn't make sense neither did it add anything new to story.


Raghav till now never manhandled Pallavi - that was because he is a person who respects the other's stand. Yesterday I too didn't like him manhandling Pallavi but I can understand why he was so broken down. It was the guilt of his broken promise, plus the idea that he has fallen in Pallavi's eyes and knowing Pallavi understanding that she will go to police - it made the person snap. He snapped in his anger - Does it make it correct. No it is not but right now Raghav is not in the realm of right or wrong. He has snapped in half and his sanity has gone for a toss. That is why I can understand the creatives showing the anger, the gussa and the manhandling wala part for Raghav. When you fight dirty you do lot of things realistically speaking even hurting your loved ones. Not saying it is correct but that is what happens.

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Originally posted by: Couch.Potato

Pallavi -is concerned about their future, and she does not want Raghav's unlawful business practises to endanger him, their family, or anybody else. She desires a worry free life with him, even if it means that he makes less profit in business. It is not about her values because she already broke them by refusing to turn in diamonds to the cops. Her love for Raghav already won out over morals there 😆.


Raghav - not only understands the value of money, but also its power; money not only makes him feel good, but it also makes him feel powerful; he believes that money provides him power, which allows him to keep his family safe and happy.

Who is correct? Both of them, in my opinion, are correct in their standpoint , but they are unable to communicate them properly.


Instead of throwing heavy OTT dialogues,

Raghav only had to ask : What saved Vijay and Sharda Deshmukh's lives - love or money? . DSE was ‘legal’ but did it make life any easier?


Pallavi simply had to question Raghav : what if It was Farhad in Abhishek's place? Will money be able to make up for his loss? Is Raghav in the same position as he was ten years ago? Is it necessary to display the same amount of financial desperation now? Why should past traumas put the future in jeopardy?

Some hard hitting facts are sufficient to get arguments across, have a discussion, and establish a middle ground, but this is an ITV daily show, and how will they serve us episodes six days a week if Raghav and Pallavi fix it this quickly through dialogue?


Something has to give either/both of them a jolt in order to stop the ego clash and start a dialogue.


What exactly will this something be - ( strictly my assumptions do not come at me if makers show anything different )


According to the dialogues spoken so far in this track, (assuming they are foreshadowing and not mere mentions for dramatic effect),

Farhad might get caught in the crossfire and take the fall for Raghav. Previously, I thought it would be Pallavi, but now the chances of that seem minimal. Maybe then Raghav will understand he needs to adopt safer ways of conducting business.


Pallavi has already experienced some harsh business realities as a result of working in DSE, albeit not as severe as Raghav's due to the large difference in scale of business, but working independently, in my opinion, will not open her eyes to anything new, but will only create emotional separation between Raghav and Pallavi , hurting ego of provider in Raghav.


There is a recent spoiler photo of someone pointing a gun at Pallavi; I hope it's one of Raghav's rivals, and they abduct or at least attempt to kidnap her; then she will understand how money (and the power it gives) plays a key role in allowing Raghav to reach her quickly. Raghav's business is more complicated than just paying customs duties; he has business rivals and a whole network to deal with. Raghav's love of money isn't just about satisfying materialistic needs; it's also about his instinct to keep his family safe and the power money gives him to do so.


Whatever it is (since writers are lazy and I have no faith in them), I hope Raghav and Pallavi find a happy middle ground and that the makers don't show one party simply giving in.


They should technically (imo) address Pallavi's non-confrontational behaviour as well as Raghav's anger issues through/after this business track. Will they pull it off? I have my doubts.....


P.S. Please hire a good dialogue writer for Pallavi; I'm fed up with writers' incompetence!😡 Her point of view is sound, however the dialogues she is given detracts from the overall flow and mood.


Tagging few members but everyone fill free to jump in and discuss. Thank you


I totally agree with you. This is going to be a track where hopefully the creatives will address Raghav's insecurities including abandonment and his need to have money and power. Side by side I want them to address the growth in Pallavi - One who understands the ground realities of life and is able to guide Raghav when he is wrong. Both should come to a common ground as right now they are standing on opposite sides of the equation.

In the real world you need to be both practical as well as have some moral fiber. You can't have either one and have a good, content life. Hopefully the creatives address the middle ground. I want them to show both sides to the audience - If the script is handled nicely this can be the clash of titans which has been rarely shown in Indian TV. Usually indian TV start with ML and FL fighting over their ideas and beliefs and within a month everything is dusted off the carpet as the romance and push/pull sets in. I don't want that here. I want to see a proper growth in both the characters.

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