A Pattern in the show - Page 2

You have written so well. Sai has made many mistakes in the past but neither she was addressed nor she has apologised. And, she almost forgets her mistake instantly. Whenever she does something unintentionally she apologises but that too to the rest of the family members and the next moment when the family gangs up against her she gets sympathised because it wasn't her mistake. Then, when Virat makes a bigger mistake he's bashed and when he realises his mistake he apologises instantly. Whereas Sai never realises her mistakes and apologises. She doesn't even bother to introspect her actions. She apologises for mistakes that she has not done but never accepts the mistakes that she has done and apologise . And, never ever bothers to rectify them specially with Virat.

Originally posted by: nethraa_99

Honestly speaking.....both their mistakes are handled badly.

Sai's mistakes are never addressed properly.....these two never have a talk after any huge setback. Now, who in real life engages in public spats while reserving their private space for cute nok-jhok?

She absolutely needed to apologise for the DevKit elopement and her 'two-timer' comment.

I'm not at all happy with the way Virat's remorse is handled either.....one apology later SaiRat are back together . And the humiliation and pain of the victim is never addressed. In all the cases, his realization is not unconditional....he realises the gravity of his actions only after Sai has been proved to be correct or having 'saaf dil'. There should have been either sufficient introspection on his part....or should have been shown taking therapy....but he happens to keep repeating his abusive/toxic pattern.

I do agree with the FL part....she should be a person with a lot of flaws just like we all are....need not be selfless....and need not be mahaan.

During Devkit kaand she had to apologise and they got the ousting drama... After it all was fine she owed an apology to Virat for the way she handled things...

Coming to two timer well that was harsh..I was more upset on how she said he is not happy as Samrat is back knowing how he has pined for him ...do naav pr paer I guess we had a long conversation on emotional fidelity...seems like it was mentioned today in the episode.. there has been a kind of emotional infidelity for sure.. the relationship he shares with Pakhi cannot be called normal even now..going by recent episodes...They should have made him more stringent and stoic towards her...atleast now...why butcher him...

I am Not fine with them getting back together...not after what has been done...no point crying and apologising when the abuse has to repeat...Makers should have worked on the characters they created but they are getting TRPs ..so kya bole ab..

Originally posted by: fatssrilanka

You have written so well. Sai has made many mistakes in the past but neither she was addressed nor she has apologised. And, she almost forgets her mistake instantly. Whenever she does something unintentionally she apologises but that too to the rest of the family members and the next moment when the family gangs up against her she gets sympathised because it wasn't her mistake. Then, when Virat makes a bigger mistake he's bashed and when he realises his mistake he apologises instantly. Whereas Sai never realises her mistakes and apologises. She doesn't even bother to introspect her actions. She apologises for mistakes that she has not done but never accepts the mistakes that she has done and apologise . And, never ever bothers to rectify them specially with Virat.

Exactly. In this regard she's like any other female lead. 'Right' even if she's not. Perks (Side effects) of being the female lead😆

Originally posted by: JoonaMohalla

Thankyou Fatema❤️

Exactly. In this regard she's like any other female lead. 'Right' even if she's not. Perks (Side effects) of being the female lead😆

And, each time she makes a mistake I feel she'll realise and apologise but everytime she disappoints me. If you can remember during the saree episode when Sai was humiliated by Pakhi's parents Virat had apologised though it was not his fault. But, here we never see Sai apologising for her mistakes.

Originally posted by: fatssrilanka

And, each time she makes a mistake I feel she'll realise and apologise but everytime she disappoints me. If you can remember during the saree episode when Sai was humiliated by Pakhi's parents Virat had apologised though it was not his fault. But, here we never see Sai apologising for her mistakes.

I understand Virat apologizing there. But Sai is the female lead, hence always right. I have lost hopes 🤔and it pains me because I didn't start watching the show because of Neil even though, I love him as an actor. I started watching the show because of Sai. She was like a breath of fresh air for me. But there's no growth. Hence the disappointment is bigger, I think😒

I have no plans to return to the show now. I'm not sure if they can bring back the charm of the show😭

Originally posted by: nethraa_99

I usually believe in apology that is met...and not that is met for the sake of it...Hence I was with Virat during handhold as well...He held it till he realised he is giving her pain...But all his apologies fell flat when they have a bad relationship.

Sai does not apologise, thats not true, but she does cross her limits when she is angry when it comes to words...SHe should have talked about Samrat that way, she had no right, she had seen Virat being so worried for him for long... Master plan, was again the wrong word to use..Extremely disrespectful....I had also mentioned how they missed out a lot of dialogues from Sai to Virat, from the original during anniversary kaand....And I pointed out how I have issues with these dialogues, since Sai's dialogues were all here and there and Emon had clearly told him why she feels offended on the same night itself...Remember I gave you guys a translation... They copy the bad things and let go the good things..

Virat again also have said a lot of things that's hurtful.. They both do actually, recently he talked about Sai being khudgarz when Pakhi was standing there and compared her with Pakhi, called her out for not being able to see her happiness (again was used the same way Sai using him not being happy about Samrat;s return)....Those words are painful, do they not need to be apologised for? Again if you cant live your apology, better not apologize.. I would always prefer the latter.. Sorry now seems like just a way to get done with what has happened and move on... Ofcourse not all mistakes are not repeated in life, but some mistakes, the barbaric ones, cannot be repeated..

Contrary to that the command Samrat had when he clearly said he is not Virat and he cannot be compared with her.. I really liked that scene...

Yes they don't romanticize abuse, instead they trivialize it. What Virat does is not mistake, they are crimes. If someone files a complaint, he will be behind bars for domestic abuse. No matter what Sai does, it doesn't give Virat the right to manhandle her, throw her out at night or lock her up. There is no comparison between the things Virat and Sai does. And what is the use of Virat's apologies when he keeps on repeating the same mistakes over and over. Once is a mistake, repeating it over and over is a crime.

Originally posted by: JoonaMohalla

Yes, I have stopped watching the show (almost🤣)

Don't blame me. Blame my insta😆

This is not Virat v/s Sai. I'm not supporting Virat. He has made hineous mistakes. But I rarely have expectations from male leads-the reason why I seldom watch TV shows😆

1. A hero makes mistakes and these are romanticized.
2. A heroine is always right. Even if she is wrong, her mistakes are either whitewashed or hidden.

Ghum has done one thing correctly. Virat's mistakes are not romanticized like in other shows where the hero gets the heroine jailed and they play romantic music in the background🤣

But in the department of the heroine, even Ghum makers failed.

Ok so here is what I want to say:

Sai wants to go to Pulkit's house. Nobody knows why. She doesn't tell them anything. She acts stubborn.(Mistake)

Virat grabs her wrist and holds it tightly. He denies her food. (Bigger Mistake)

Sai goes behind Virat's back and lies to him, gets Devyani married. (Mistake)

Virat throws her out of the house.(Bigger Mistake)

Sai hurts Virat, acts insensitive, blames him for two timing, gets his transfer cancelled. (Mistake)

Virat acts insensitive, hurts her with words, and ultimately locks her up in the room. (I'm not sure which mistake was bigger in this case)

In Ajinkya case, Sai did nothing there, as far as I can remember. Virat was to blame.

But I'm not playing the blame game here. All I'm seeing is a pattern. Sai makes a mistake. Virat makes a bigger Mistake. Sai's mistake is covered beneath all the layers.

Why CVs? Your ML and FL both are flawed. Then why do you highlight Virat's mistakes and Sai's mistakes get hidden under his mistakes? You even go to the lengths of showing her blamed falsely, for things she didn't do. You made her apologise for no mistake of hers. Using reverse psychology, you make viewers sympathise with her. But you don't show her being blamed for things she did do. When she can apologise for the mistake she didn't do, why can't she apologise for what she did do? She had apologised for saree incident but you played it to the level where ultimately she got sympathy by making everyone target her again and again.

When Virat makes a mistake, it's not only highlighted, he regrets and apologises. Why can't you show Sai doing the same? It won't make her a lesser human being. It will make her a bigger human being. All the female leads need not be perfect. Imperfection has its own beauty. Then why try and hide her mistakes? Why can't she act like a normal human being? Who makes mistakes and apologises too.

Instead of showing this pattern, let her also grow as a human being. I have seen it, forever. A heroine has to be perfect. Even if she makes a mistake, it has to be hidden instead of letting her accept, apologise and grow. A heroine can also be a human being. She doesn't have to be a superwoman. All her flaws need not be hidden.

So what if she won't look perfect?

So what if her mistakes are not whitewashed/covered.

So what if she's not perfect yet?

So what if she grows as a human being?

Why all the heroines have to be either too sanskari that they are ready to put their heads under others' feet or they have to be too arrogant to admit their mistakes and be better. Why???? Why do you have to show a heroine as the only victim in the world?

*Edited by DT*

Originally posted by: JoonaMohalla

Underline: So true

I understand Virat apologizing there. But Sai is the female lead, hence always right. I have lost hopes 🤔and it pains me because I didn't start watching the show because of Neil even though, I love him as an actor. I started watching the show because of Sai. She was like a breath of fresh air for me. But there's no growth. Hence the disappointment is bigger, I think😒

I have no plans to return to the show now. I'm not sure if they can bring back the charm of the show😭

Had u ever seen sai apologizing kamal sir for her awesome behaviour in GC , KJ has joined his hands for forgiveness infront of virat still she continued her behaviour with no regret

Just have a look KJ how ashamed he was , he even said to sai kyu meri mehanat bekar kar rahi hai kuch hi din bacche hai Is department mein which means don't spoil my name when virat caught her spying police confidential meeting see her attitude . Sadly KJ was bashed for his comment against sai.

She call Ashwani aai made her look like a liar when Ashwani told virat sai was out whole night in devkit track sai along with UM proved Ashwani wrong , she never apologize Ashwani about it .

Then who is virat infront of them that she will apologize him.

Originally posted by: JoonaMohalla

1. A hero makes mistakes and these are romanticized.
2. A heroine is always right. Even if she is wrong, her mistakes are either whitewashed or hidden.

But I'm not playing the blame game here. All I'm seeing is a pattern. Sai makes a mistake. Virat makes a bigger Mistake. Sai's mistake is covered beneath all the layers.

Why CVs? Your ML and FL both are flawed. Then why do you highlight Virat's mistakes and Sai's mistakes get hidden under his mistakes?

I am sorry but I don’t agree to this Cheeku.

If we look at this way, then the whole pattern should be looked at as a staged one. So they make Sai make the mistake in first place like all that you have listed to make Virat make bigger mistakes. In that case both are not actually flawed but is shown flawed to have a cycle?

I don’t believe in ML bad FL theories. To be honest, this is a very realistic story and that is the reason why Virat’s mistakes are not romanticised. To me Virat is a person having anger issues and that is why he is reacting this way. He has also been born and brought up in a toxic environment because of which many qualities have got imbibed in him that he even fails to recognise how wrong he is.

Even if there is a pattern, the pattern highlights how the guy goes through a momentary guilt, apologises, gets a chance again, and does the same the next time. There are real people like him and so I don’t see this as any plot points or FL or ML theory that you have stated.

A person can have all the good qualities that Virat has and also all the toxic qualities that he possesses and which comes out at times when he doesn’t know how to handle or deal with issues. I am not saying Sai is not flawed, but Virat is reacting to Sai because that is his character and not because anyone wants to glorify FL.

If what you said is true, then even Virat’s goodness is fake. It looks nice when they show men to be a saviour to a woman but not when he turns into one like Virat has turned into and so it looks like it is all done to cover up the mistakes of a flawed FL. There is no doubt that there are people like Virat who would react exactly the same way as him or even worse. This story is to bring in the awareness, to actually show that there are people like these in real life, to show the struggle of people like Devi, Sai and Virat himself who is a victim /output of a toxic family. It is to show that there are people like elders of CN.