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Posted: 3 years ago

Originally posted by: Raingoddess

Genuine question: correct me if I’m wrong, I thought his bike skidded because the wheels were worn out and the street was not in good condition? Did it happen on purpose? I thought it was purely accidental?


Also, I thought he wasn’t able to check on Raavi because he was trying to get off from the bike while it was skidding and was trying to keep it from falling onto him. I probably need to rewatch but that’s what I thought. The rest… yeah let’s just say violence turns me off super fast. It was inhumane the way he beat the boys. They were wrong no doubt, but Shiva wasn’t right either. Nor was Raavi.

it didnt happen on purpose......it actually skidded...the bike wasnt in his control ........and he was going to check on her, the same way he didnt know it was her when he pushed but when she yelped, he went to her to give her his hand and same way....while fighting he saved her from the falling pole........

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Posted: 3 years ago

Originally posted by: funny_fubar

I'll start out by saying Let's all agree to disagree here. We all have polarizing views on the topic 😆


I personally don't like Raavi- I have read a lot of views in the past few days, and while my dislike has tempered, I still dislike her. So my views are probably colored.


But here is my take:

- I still stand by the fact that Raavi is clueless.

So if she did know he had inferiority complex, why not bring it up when they were in their room and she was harping "compromise". If anything, Shiva has been too consistent- his words reek of his insecurities. Yet she never addressed those directly. She kept saying "ya I said those, why are you stuck on those words? move on, let's just somehow make this work". For all her kindness, she never thought to somhow convey to him that she does think highly of him. Go back to the dialogues she uses- she points out that he tied mangalsutra, he is married to her- not once is there mention of how he is as a person. If she had a clue- they would have had this screaming match alone at home, not in the middle of the road 😕 It looks more to me that her "inferiority complex" comment came up because he beat her "cool" friends, and not as an epiphany of how Shiva actually feels.


- Junglee Gawar Jaahil

While Maami might have sown the seeds of the taunts, Raavi definitely has carried it forward. If you go back to her behavior pre- marriage and post marriage before Mukteshwar, you can subtly see it. That is the problem- her disdain is more in her actions and attitude, so it is easy to miss. Shiva is on the face, so he seems more aggressive.

You might point out that she was hurting because of her marriage- but that is not excuse to take it out on Shiva. To add insult to injury, she always treated Dev well- heck she never even avoided him, and when he asked a measly sorry, she was more than happy to forgive. But for Shiva she gets to call him a Gawar, her biggest punishment in life and what not? Infelt it was double standards.

Also, seeing the recent scenes I am even more convinced that Raavi has been making fun of him since maybe her teenage years. So while his anger with her might have started with Maami, I am mostly convinced the grown up Shiva had an aversion to Raavi because she despised him. All her talk of Shiva accepting and repecting her was for Shiva to put her on a pedestal, like he did for Dhara. It had nothing to do with him as an individual- he only had value as being a part of Pandya family- nothing more, nothing less.


- Shiva does NOT get support from his family

Yup you heard that right- his family love him to death and back, but no, nobody really supports him. Think about his interactions with Gaumbi, Dhara and Dev- the pattern is invariably "You are pure gold, You are not looking from our perspective, you are doing wrong with Raavi, You need to move on with Raavi and make her happy"

No one- not one single person, has sat him down and asked "How are you doing Shiva, why are you so off? Why do you feel you are not upto her?" He starts sharing his feelings, and they shut him down saying he needs to move on. That is NOT support.

Imagine this- you have a problem which overwhelms you, and you are not able to handle it alone. If you come to me and all I say is "oh you are capable, you will figure it out"- will that really help allay all your fears? No, I am just giving you encouragement. What actually would help is if I say "what is the problem? Why are you stuck? Maybe you could try XYZ , or talk to ABC" - That is giving support.


- Shiva wants Acceptance more than love

This is again a personal take- but I feel Shiva might have been ok even if Raavi did not love him, as long as she had conveyed that she was happy with the person he really is. Based on what I have seen, Raavi just wants to maintain a status quo and not go too deep. Yes, she wants to change herself to his needs- but not because she feels he is worth it, but because she somehow needs to make this marriage work. She makes me feel like she has a disability that she had to learn how to live with as opposed to building a life with someone 😕


All said and done, I liked that Raavi stood up for herself, and believe me, I loved her when she gave him that slap- he needed it. He is indeed out of control and needs to find his centre again.


But I still don't think Raavi is good for Shiva. Shiva need not be so far gone in his insecurities- but Raavi does not help make it better either. I would rather both be happy and peaceful with other people.


Shiva needs redemption- definitely. He needs to see where his flaws are and how to improve them. But if they show him grovelling to Raavi and completely changing himself for her- I will officially stop watching the show 😳 Raavi is not completely right here and they need to point out that too. Otherwise ShiVi don't make sense to me at all.


This became too long 🙈 Sorry 🙈🙈 I am trying to grapple with this- I normally don't have love-hate relationships with serial characters 😆 ShiVi have driven me crazy


Very well articulated post! I am fine with raavi not realizing shiva's feelings for her, I will chalk it down to her dobi-ness. I can also give her a free pass for not defending him in public because of his behavior.


But she needs to absolutely stop calling him jaahil, gawar and jungli. She also said he isn't worthy of respect or that no girl should ever marry him. That is where she is wrong.


Just because she is angry with him (even for the right reasons) she can't keep saying things like this, and stop saying them when he behaves well with her. She has been doing this since the start.


She could have used words like rude, violent, out of control for Shiva.


But these terms reinforce his insecurities and can be pretty derogatory! She uses these words every single time she fights with him, which means she actually thinks them about him. Using these words for Shiva is like a reflex action for her. This cannot be her defence mechanism, this is actually bullying.

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Posted: 3 years ago

Originally posted by: Namita-M

It’s important to make sure one is okay be checking on someone else.

Nothing wrong in it.

The bike didn’t randomly fall over nor Shiva made it fall.

Some are saying he did it on purpose. Are we watching the same show?? 😆


Couldn’t agree more. Yeah I was genuinely confused 😆 from what I saw, he was taken aback by the sudden turning of the wheels. That’s not how one would react if they did it on purpose 😆

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Posted: 3 years ago

Originally posted by: funny_fubar

I'll start out by saying Let's all agree to disagree here. We all have polarizing views on the topic 😆


I personally don't like Raavi- I have read a lot of views in the past few days, and while my dislike has tempered, I still dislike her. So my views are probably colored.


But here is my take:

- I still stand by the fact that Raavi is clueless.

So if she did know he had inferiority complex, why not bring it up when they were in their room and she was harping "compromise". If anything, Shiva has been too consistent- his words reek of his insecurities. Yet she never addressed those directly. She kept saying "ya I said those, why are you stuck on those words? move on, let's just somehow make this work". For all her kindness, she never thought to somhow convey to him that she does think highly of him. Go back to the dialogues she uses- she points out that he tied mangalsutra, he is married to her- not once is there mention of how he is as a person. If she had a clue- they would have had this screaming match alone at home, not in the middle of the road 😕 It looks more to me that her "inferiority complex" comment came up because he beat her "cool" friends, and not as an epiphany of how Shiva actually feels.


- Junglee Gawar Jaahil

While Maami might have sown the seeds of the taunts, Raavi definitely has carried it forward. If you go back to her behavior pre- marriage and post marriage before Mukteshwar, you can subtly see it. That is the problem- her disdain is more in her actions and attitude, so it is easy to miss. Shiva is on the face, so he seems more aggressive.

You might point out that she was hurting because of her marriage- but that is not excuse to take it out on Shiva. To add insult to injury, she always treated Dev well- heck she never even avoided him, and when he asked a measly sorry, she was more than happy to forgive. But for Shiva she gets to call him a Gawar, her biggest punishment in life and what not? Infelt it was double standards.

Also, seeing the recent scenes I am even more convinced that Raavi has been making fun of him since maybe her teenage years. So while his anger with her might have started with Maami, I am mostly convinced the grown up Shiva had an aversion to Raavi because she despised him. All her talk of Shiva accepting and repecting her was for Shiva to put her on a pedestal, like he did for Dhara. It had nothing to do with him as an individual- he only had value as being a part of Pandya family- nothing more, nothing less.


- Shiva does NOT get support from his family

Yup you heard that right- his family love him to death and back, but no, nobody really supports him. Think about his interactions with Gaumbi, Dhara and Dev- the pattern is invariably "You are pure gold, You are not looking from our perspective, you are doing wrong with Raavi, You need to move on with Raavi and make her happy"

No one- not one single person, has sat him down and asked "How are you doing Shiva, why are you so off? Why do you feel you are not upto her?" He starts sharing his feelings, and they shut him down saying he needs to move on. That is NOT support.

Imagine this- you have a problem which overwhelms you, and you are not able to handle it alone. If you come to me and all I say is "oh you are capable, you will figure it out"- will that really help allay all your fears? No, I am just giving you encouragement. What actually would help is if I say "what is the problem? Why are you stuck? Maybe you could try XYZ , or talk to ABC" - That is giving support.


- Shiva wants Acceptance more than love

This is again a personal take- but I feel Shiva might have been ok even if Raavi did not love him, as long as she had conveyed that she was happy with the person he really is. Based on what I have seen, Raavi just wants to maintain a status quo and not go too deep. Yes, she wants to change herself to his needs- but not because she feels he is worth it, but because she somehow needs to make this marriage work. She makes me feel like she has a disability that she had to learn how to live with as opposed to building a life with someone 😕


All said and done, I liked that Raavi stood up for herself, and believe me, I loved her when she gave him that slap- he needed it. He is indeed out of control and needs to find his centre again.


But I still don't think Raavi is good for Shiva. Shiva need not be so far gone in his insecurities- but Raavi does not help make it better either. I would rather both be happy and peaceful with other people.


Shiva needs redemption- definitely. He needs to see where his flaws are and how to improve them. But if they show him grovelling to Raavi and completely changing himself for her- I will officially stop watching the show 😳 Raavi is not completely right here and they need to point out that too. Otherwise ShiVi don't make sense to me at all.


This became too long 🙈 Sorry 🙈🙈 I am trying to grapple with this- I normally don't have love-hate relationships with serial characters 😆 ShiVi have driven me crazy

I just love this post❤

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Posted: 3 years ago

Originally posted by: Raingoddess

Couldn’t agree more. Yeah I was genuinely confused 😆 from what I saw, he was taken aback by the sudden turning of the wheels. That’s not how one would react if they did it on purpose 😆

People are saying he did that on purpose?

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Posted: 3 years ago

Originally posted by: nafees5

People are saying he did that on purpose?

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Not sure but I guess. I didn’t read the earlier comments so I’m not the best person to answer that. But I don’t think it was done on purpose at all.

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Posted: 3 years ago

Originally posted by: Raingoddess

Not sure but I guess. I didn’t read the earlier comments so I’m not the best person to answer that. But I don’t think it was done on purpose at all.

Hmm okay.

I agree with you on that.

It genuinely skidded and he was trying to balance it else it would have crushed his legs.

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Posted: 3 years ago

i have been writing since yesterday and deleting the comment.......yesterday i was very angry and raged to bahot likha and deleted......aaj fir subah se likh rahi hun but m unable to make it in order.......

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Posted: 3 years ago

ShiVi have not even separated yet and the forum has turned into a warzone 😆

When they actually separate in the next episode people will start doing tandav 🤣🤣

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Posted: 3 years ago

Originally posted by: GrilledCheese

ShiVi have not even separated yet and the forum has turned into a warzone 😆

When they actually separate in the next episode people will start doing tandav 🤣🤣

War zone? 🧐

Really?

Hehehe but we'll end up doing YKB and sab theek🤪

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