Lazy writing makes Mandar dig his own grave, and keep digging

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Posted: 4 years ago
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The whole plot since Mandar returned makes no sense.


Mandar got his memory back the same day that he met Pallavi, Raghav, and Krishna. He could have told Pallavi right away that he remembers everything that they shared, all of their plans for a life together (world tour, business school, growing the brand). He could have tempted Pallavi with the chance to return to her beloved family and be the wife of a decent man instead of a criminal. He could have gone to work at Deshmukh Saree Emporium and found excuses to compliment Pallavi on her designs, networking skills etc. Instead, Mandar chose to pretend to remember nothing, so that he could be Pallavi's burden and an object of pity.


At the Mangala Gaur party, Mandar could have announced that he just recovered his memory, so that it would turn into a party for him and Raghav would be left out. Instead, Mandar tried to make Raghav fall unconscious, which would have made Raghav the centre of attention. Mandar got lucky that when Pallavi fell unconscious, she just happened to mutter something that Raghav misunderstood. Why didn't Mandar, the next day, tell Pallavi a spiced-up version of how she came on to him in her sleep? Make her question her feelings for Raghav!


Suppose Sharada had told Pallavi that Mandar remembers everything. Sharada cannot prove that Mandar lied to Pallavi for a few days or weeks. Mandar could have just said that Sharada misunderstood; his memories have just begun to return, starting with muscle memory like reaching under the sink for a pack of sugar. But no, Mandar decided that he couldn't risk being suspected of lying to Pallavi; it was better to raise suspicion by murdering Sharada.


A daily drama is supposed to create suspense, as in, will Pallavi feel attraction to Mandar or can Raghav make her trust in their love? Instead, the whole plot has been written to reassure us that Mandar is just a distraction, Raghav and Pallavi will always get back together... Why bother to tell a story if you give away the ending?


Come on, creative team! You brought on an actor with name recognition to play Mandar. You are wasting him in this illogical story.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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I agree.

This would have more sense in the debate of pyaar vs kartavya but they gave us overdose of tadka and the end result was that of Pallavi getting bashed left,right and center;too much negativity and half of the audience disappearing.

I cant understand this route of increasing trps..I mean the other shows show functions,festivals etc but the producer rejected all those ideas and made this total khichdi of the track and now they are trying to undo the damage caused to the story.

Also,I dont know when itv will progress with not making the ex as negative.

They could have either let Mandaar be positive or made him grey.

Why cant Pallavi be presented with choice of ex who was positive and good for her but the difference was that she was in love with Raghav because he gave her wings (whereas Mandaar could be shown a bit like having Ds' thought process but not being a really bad person)

Edited by mineforever - 4 years ago
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Brilliantly written. This probably has more logic than entire shows that have run on ITV for years.😆

If only makers focused on logic instead of tadka we could have gotten a better kartavya vs pyaar struggle instead of RaghVi Vs Mandhaar which is fine tbvh but very common.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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I think there really is no solid story or plot to start with. I think they just make it up as they go, a lot of it is dependent on the numbers they are able to get for the content.

They seem to be in a big hurry, not sure why. I mean not just the scenes during the pivot of the track but just in general - they get dressed, release bts, get the fandom worked up and then the scenes air - it’s cut short, abrupt and just a collection of beautiful visuals that seem like a half hearted attempt to weave a story. Maybe they are short staffed due to Covid.






Originally posted by: BrhannadaArmour

The whole plot since Mandar returned makes no sense.


Mandar got his memory back the same day that he met Pallavi, Raghav, and Krishna. He could have told Pallavi right away that he remembers everything that they shared, all of their plans for a life together (world tour, business school, growing the brand). He could have tempted Pallavi with the chance to return to her beloved family and be the wife of a decent man instead of a criminal. He could have gone to work at Deshmukh Saree Emporium and found excuses to compliment Pallavi on her designs, networking skills etc. Instead, Mandar chose to pretend to remember nothing, so that he could be Pallavi's burden and an object of pity.


At the Mangala Gaur party, Mandar could have announced that he just recovered his memory, so that it would turn into a party for him and Raghav would be left out. Instead, Mandar tried to make Raghav fall unconscious, which would have made Raghav the centre of attention. Mandar got lucky that when Pallavi fell unconscious, she just happened to mutter something that Raghav misunderstood. Why didn't Mandar, the next day, tell Pallavi a spiced-up version of how she came on to him in her sleep? Make her question her feelings for Raghav!


Suppose Sharada had told Pallavi that Mandar remembers everything. Sharada cannot prove that Mandar lied to Pallavi for a few days or weeks. Mandar could have just said that Sharada misunderstood; his memories have just begun to return, starting with muscle memory like reaching under the sink for a pack of sugar. But no, Mandar decided that he couldn't risk being suspected of lying to Pallavi; it was better to raise suspicion by murdering Sharada.


A daily drama is supposed to create suspense, as in, will Pallavi feel attraction to Mandar or can Raghav make her trust in their love? Instead, the whole plot has been written to reassure us that Mandar is just a distraction, Raghav and Pallavi will always get back together... Why bother to tell a story if you give away the ending?


Come on, creative team! You brought on an actor with name recognition to play Mandar. You are wasting him in this illogical story.

Edited by IAMHope - 4 years ago
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Posted: 4 years ago
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Well written

I wish they had implemented something on these lines.. mandar positive to begin with and may be turning little grey or trying to dominate Pallavi ..typical husband type...

Raghav understanding and giving freedom to Pallavi to take decision for herself...which is so true his nature...

Pallavi's indecisiveness to being with but then gradually and yet passionately falling in love with Raghav....

Would have created the much needed suspense and kept the enterprise quotient too..

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Posted: 4 years ago
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d.padmini wrote:

"Raghav understanding and giving freedom to Pallavi to take decision for herself...which is so true his nature..."


I don't see it as Raghav's nature to give Pallavi (or Kirti, or Vijay) freedom to decide for herself. He has never been understanding about Pallavi's right to give consent:

  • Raghav tried to rush Pallavi to the temple for marriage, then offered business incentives, wouldn't let her pay back Rs. 5 lakh, and finally broke her will by extortion.
  • Raghav wouldn't let Pallavi leave him; he even invoked her late husband to ask for a chance.
  • Raghav tried to put Pallavi on a train instead of just telling her that she was free to leave him but he wanted her to stay.
  • Raghav expected Pallavi to call it justice that "someone" went to jail for Mandar's hit-and-run, even knowing that the real culprit got away.

Furthermore, when Raghav sees a woman attracted to two men (example: Anjali), he goes out of his way to punish her. He could have simply told Anjali's fiancé that she was flirting with him, but instead he took Anjali to his bedroom, laid her on the bed, got into his bathrobe, put one foot up on the bed (😵) ... and then opened the bedroom door to her fiancé. That was sadistic.


I would fully expect Raghav to act out at the slightest hint that Pallavi might leave him. It was totally in character that he told her off, then got drunk, and went to whine at her door that he couldn't live without her. He behaved similarly when he played taxi driver to Jaya and Kirti, then got drunk, and made Farhad drive him over to their house (until they found Pallavi in the road). We could have had a dramatic love triangle of Pallavi in scenes with Mandar on his best behaviour versus Raghav self-destructing for her attention.

Edited by BrhannadaArmour - 4 years ago
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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: BrhannadaArmour

d.padmini wrote:

"Raghav understanding and giving freedom to Pallavi to take decision for herself...which is so true his nature..."


I don't see it as Raghav's nature to give Pallavi (or Kirti, or Vijay) freedom to decide for herself. He has never been understanding about Pallavi's right to give consent:

  • Raghav tried to rush Pallavi to the temple for marriage, then offered business incentives, wouldn't let her pay back Rs. 5 lakh, and finally broke her will by extortion.
  • Raghav wouldn't let Pallavi leave him; he even invoked her late husband to ask for a chance.
  • Raghav tried to put Pallavi on a train instead of just telling her that she was free to leave him but he wanted her to stay.
  • Raghav expected Pallavi to call it justice that "someone" went to jail for Mandar's hit-and-run, even knowing that the real culprit got away.

Furthermore, when Raghav sees a woman attracted to two men (example: Anjali), he goes out of his way to punish her. He could have simply told Anjali's fiancé that she was flirting with him, but instead he took Anjali to his bedroom, laid her on the bed, got into his bathrobe, put one foot up on the bed (😵) ... and then opened the bedroom door to her fiancé. That was sadistic.


I would fully expect Raghav to act out at the slightest hint that Pallavi might leave him. It was totally in character that he told her off, then got drunk, and went to whine at her door that he couldn't live without her. He behaved similarly when he played taxi driver to Jaya and Kirti, then got drunk, and made Farhad drive him over to their house (until they found Pallavi in the road). We could have had a dramatic love triangle of Pallavi in scenes with Mandar on his best behaviour versus Raghav self-destructing for her attention.

@bold, I had wished for something like this earlier on with Mandaar being a good guy but Raghav being the man Pallavi eventually chooses to be with out of love, but the CVs totally messed it up. We cannot expect Raghav to so easily let go something so precious to him without a fight, no matter what the circumstance. Agree his drunken whining was in line what I'd expect of his character.


So far, his relationship with Pallavi hasn't really been threatened - what happened the past couple of days was just a blip on the radar. If it actually came to that, he would not be so easy to deal with, and his alpha male tendencies won't go away overnight.

Edited by inlieu - 4 years ago
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Posted: 4 years ago
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This is absolutely what any other industry in entertainment might have done. Maybe if it had been a film maybe this might have been done. This is Indian Television.

Honestly have you seen the other shows running around for hundreds of episodes? Do you seriously think makers will give us a sorted ex and logical reasonings of everyone's behavior?


You expect too much from the ITV makers. The entire point is Raghav and Pallavi. Even if Mandaar had been a good kind person behaving like what you said instead of a psychopath still we all know Raghav and Pallavi is the endgame here. There is no suspense in that regard in Hindi Television atleast... idk bout other regionalities.


Chill and have sprite dude.


We have a self destructive alcoholic hero, a weak sumbmissive heroine (who was dumbed down even more as the story progressed), a psychopathic ex husband, scheming sisters, a couple of stupid cousins and their Komolika like mother, spineless husbands and egotistical fathers with anger management issues.


Behold! We have a show!

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Posted: 4 years ago
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I have only followed Marathi shows so far. Some shows (not those that I followed) ended with the lead couple never getting together, or ambiguity, or betrayal. I understand that Hindi shows are different, but I see no reason why they have to be limited.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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I don't think so.

Remember when Mandhar proved himself to be Mandhar by the DNA test and went to the RR mansion, and he said that this is Pallavi Mandhar Deshmukh and not Pallavi Raghav Rao. Mandhar told Pallavi that he only remembered Pallavi's name when he lost his memory, and he felt that they have connections cause he only remembered her name. He wanted her to come back with him to the Deshmukh house and be his wife. And then Pallavi said that for her, to her now her husband is Raghav.

The only reason why Pallavi went back to the Deshmukh house was because she pitied Mandhar who felt this "connection" to her and is resisting help from everybody else cause he only remembers her. She pities him because she thinks he feels confused, insecure, and surrounded by strangers.

Also, remembers how Mandhar hints to Pallavi that this had happened, and that had happened, and told Pallavi that I am slowly remembering our time together. Instead of making Pallavi happy and excited to hear it, it was making Pallavi uncomfortable because she has moved on and doesn't want to be reminded further more of the past.

I think the way Mandhar is acting is because first he is stubborn and masochistic. He believes that just because they thought he died doesn't mean that Pallavi as his widow can move on, should move on, and should stay loyal to him and mourns for him for the rest of his life. And secondly, I think he is afraid that if he plays fairly by trying to win Pallavi's affections then he will not win as Pallavi had said it on many occasion that to her, Raghav is her husband.

Also, I think this is how Mandhar was brought up. Remember during the during the early days of the show Sharda was trying to find a prospective groom for Pallavi, and Vijay was against it. He showed it several times how unhappy he was when Sharda wouldn't give up trying to find a match for her daughter. And now Vijay said that since his son had returned, Pallavi is now the daughter in law of the Deshmukh house, and Raghav has no rights on Pallavi. A lot of men are masochistic over men's right because that's how they were brought up by their parents or that's what they see of their parents growing up. And this masochistic behaviours could be unconsciously passed down from Vijay to Mandhar. Also, let's not forget that this is India, where the societies expect widows to mourn for their dead husband for the rest of their lives by wearing white clothes.

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