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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: AnOptimist

So I am not the only one who felt Shivangi's acting is off these days. In today's scene, when Pallavi entered RR mansion, Raghav and amma had not much dialogues but their eyes and body language was enough to convey how much they've missed her, the relief, the calmness was portrayed so well by Ketan & Geeta ji but I couldn't connect to Pallavi. I was still trying to understand and depict her emotions but her acting confused me.


Aai was the STAR of the episode. I love how sorted and considerate she is ❤️ Raghav and Pallavi's conversation could have been better and more meaningful. It wasn't as impactful as I had thought.

I can imagine how Shivangi must feel like rolling her eyes at some of Pallavi's scenes and dialogues but she fails to bring that x-factor these days, perhaps because she's not convinced? I don't blame her.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: rheuji17

Oh Jean thank you for making this post much needed. I don't usually comment on forum posts but man when someone echos exactly how I feel how can I not.

All that effort that went into making yesterday's episode went to waste. From the dialogues, to the actions etc. The editing. They wasted money on yesterday's episode and for what? The scenes were so out of place and the whole epi made no sense. Everything was closed without proper transition and good scenes. You could tell it was rushed.

Raghvi did not even have a proper conversation everything was over without talking to it. No passionate hug or anything. The scene during the festival in the room at D house was much better than this. Pallavi is still back to being in her dreamland and still has not been in touch with reality. All of Raghav's feelings got named as a doubt and misunderstanding.

Even after all this Pallavi still justifying herself instead of seeing Raghav's point of view. Amma I expected would melt easily she loves Pallavi way too much. She wanted Pallavi for Raghav and chose her. I expected her to forgive easily. This thing still has not hit her. She still did not tell of VD either but eh best to make him feel like he is not important anyways.

Aayi and Farhad were the only good things today. Aayi explained everything so well. The way she put VD in his place was awesome and she is going to figure out Mandy's intentions she actually took Raghav's words seriously this is what Pallavi should be doing.

I think Aayi and Raghav's bond will get stronger with the new track. Raghav is going to takecare of Aayi and punish who did this to her. She was the only one to understand him and where he was coming from. I see this track giving Aayi the son she was looking for in Raghav. Farhad easily could read in between the lines and understood something was fishy. He will be a great help in exposing Mandy for sure.

Siku was too overconfident in his track that he did not even have a backup plan for in case fans start to bash and riot over this track. This costed him and he literally wasted money on a few episodes 🤪

@bold, aap ke munh mein ghee shakkar for this. I really want to see them explore this bond and I want him to be there for her when her heart breaks. He already anticipated this when he saw her reaction on meeting Mandaar the first time. His eyes said it all and he could see several moves ahead as to where this was going to end up. I also want to see his moral dilemma in exposing Mandaar, knowing how much Ayi is going to hurt. She's a strong woman but a mother who grieved for her son quietly. When his truth comes out she'll be shattered. (I am not just referring to what he's doing with Pallavi but also the other dark stuff he's been involved in.) At first, I wanted it to be Pallavi who reveals it to Ayi but now I want it to be Raghav for two reasons: one, because of the way Sanki used to curse him and two, because it will parallel Pallavi's efforts to bring up the past with Jaya.

Farhad being his Anna's shadow from day 1 is something we're all used to and can't wait to see more of. I expect Ved to make a comeback soon to help Mandaar or Sunny so Raghav will need all the help he can get from unbiased people. Everyone else is too emotional so he needs to operate in stealth mode with Farhad.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: Soccer1

Hi

You summed up so well. Not much to add. Such a let down, after high power episode last night sidha patak ke sluggish episode de diya……..


Pallavi acted it was all Raghv’s misunderstanding, and there nothing more to it.She is still in oblivion, why Raghv acted so. Why was she so annoyed when Raghv entered the room. Matlab he had to knock to enter his own room and apprehensive to start a conversation….kya Hal bana diya Hyderabad ke Don ka .. And raat gayi baat gayi…toh tum apna Wada kaise bhool gaye…wow some gaslighting there….😡

‘Shyad apne pyar mein ulaj gayi thi….I mean it’s still “shyad” not I was wrong I ignored your love.There no sincerity at all in those lines…it was like say it and move on…her expressions were flat too. There was no effort on her part. Sai was not his usual, I expect much better from him , because he always delivers.
Now I’m not even sure if Pallavi will get to where Raghv is in this relation. For me it’s still Raghv’s love story …

I wish Raghv would have stuck to his Mai sab bolta nahi mode…instead of showing that poetic side…that was 🤦🥱…he better make Farhad the CEO of jayati jewel, aise bankruptcy ho jayegi…

I don’t know if there is a comeback. Is it that hard to make FL apologize ? Matlab will that bring the TRP that drastically down..?

The high light was Ayi threatening sunky stay in his lane. 🔥

You know, I'm on the fence as to how I feel about the explicit gaslighting going on with Raghav's character. It started with Amma saying he was insecure, then Ayi asking him to have faith in his love, Sanki and Kaka indicating Raghav can be out of control in his anger, etc. I get that they want to do role reversal on this show quite often and I applaud them for it but in this particular situation it is just weird.

So far, the only person who's really suspicious of Mandaar without any evidence is Raghav but his instincts are being labeled as jealousy and insecurity. I don't think we've see real jealous Raghav yet. That's not going to happen soon. What they were showing him do and say the past few days has been inconsistent.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: AnOptimist

So I am not the only one who felt Shivangi's acting is off these days. In today's scene, when Pallavi entered RR mansion, Raghav and amma had not much dialogues but their eyes and body language was enough to convey how much they've missed her, the relief, the calmness was portrayed so well by Ketan & Geeta ji but I couldn't connect to Pallavi. I was still trying to understand and depict her emotions but her acting confused me.


Aai was the STAR of the episode. I love how sorted and considerate she is ❤️ Raghav and Pallavi's conversation could have been better and more meaningful. It wasn't as impactful as I had thought.

Not shivi's fault when her character is butchered to the point that even she can't relate with it . Standing with ayi she looked liked that baccha who has created some serious mess and has got her aayi to do vakalat for her which is actually kinda true.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: Kavila

Arghhhh can I slap Raghav today ??Pallavi and Raghvi for me Is DEAD ..The moment Pallavi re enters that mad house ..

Sorry Raghvi can't be retrived not be able to Enjoy them anymore

It's only for Ketan that I am literally trapped ..Because the sole reason is his performance ...Be it any zenere..

Raghvi is Dead ....To be honest ...

My Good this Pallavi is just 🤢she was literally abusing Raghav ...And he was like pallavi agayi hai to noor agaya hai

😡what with that childish Love sign it's look now completely disgusting and childish whenever pallavi does that ...

Arghhh no passion no seriousness kya 2 Rs ka road nautanki chal raha hai yaar ..😔

Raghav 😡where are your brains and self respect 😡

I am here for Sai, otherwise I would have left after the jhadu scene itself.

I know there will be some eye candy moments coming up, but I wish they would give viewers a breather instead of non-stop drama.

Saans to leno do CVs!!

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: fria319

I feel like you and me have been on the same page a lot about this track.


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I felt very disappointed through out the whole episode. It really gave off the vibe that Pallavi felt she did nothing wrong, everything was misunderstood by Raghav.


My point was always - even if it was misunderstood by him, even if she never did anything intentionally to hurt him, the hurt he felt was still real. And to gaslight or brush that as "oh you misunderstood" it's just not fair to him. He's entitled to feel however he wants when it comes to how his wife's actions effect him - just like Pallavi is as well. Kind of upset they glossed over it that quickly.

Yeah I don't get why the sudden gaslighting.

I'm wondering if that's why he goes somewhere in disguise to uncover the truth since no one seems to be taking him seriously and labeling his concerns about Mandaar as his insecurity and/or jealousy.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: inlieu

They won't do the Sanki-Pallavi confrontation that we're all hoping for. There will be many bigger incidents happening and then we'll see. In a way it's good she didn't bother to look at Sanki's face before leaving. He's not worth wasting time on and I loved seeing him fuming at how little his value was.


The so-called patch up was so ridiculous that I laughed during most of the episode. Kal hum sab ne apna khoon aise hi jalaya. What a waste. smiley36


Pallavi talking to Raghav as though all this was his overreaction and loss of focus on her words about loving him, I'm not surprised. She didn't even bother to address his feelings when he said he didn't have words to express how bad he felt at the award function. Nothing...

Shayad mein farz mein ulajh gayi thi, etc. No sincere apology or appreciation for his emotions. Raghav had his heart in his eyes the whole time but she seemed annoyed with him, for what I don't know... Then again, sharabi tantrums do reduce your value and dignity Raghav, so you might want to reconsider these things.

Raghav tried to talk, Pallavi didn't want to listen, rinse and repeat. I know he didn't want to insist on discussing the matter further because his relief at seeing her back home and confidence in Ayi's words overshadowed everything, but as he said, they haven't been focusing on the right things and continuing to ignore these will blow up in their faces. Also, if Raghav didn't follow through with raat khatam baat khatam, he wouldn't have had the body language around her that he did today. So her line about that had me rolling my eyes.

Pyar mein andha banda, hawa mein udte udte sab kuch hawa mein filter kar raha hai, tu bohot zor se zameen par girega ek din.


Also, what's the different between normal promise and pakka promise?

Urdu speakers here, need some help. I used to think kahaani and qissa meant the same thing but I learned today that they don't. Please can someone clarify?

And for those who say writers don't give Pallavi good dialogues, I hope today's episode answered your questions, including where she corrected the raat khatam baat khatam to raat gayi baat gayi. The lines were just fine, but expressions? Didn't match, didn't deliver.


The only saving grace was what Ayi said and you could see that she did a better job of summarizing the problem than anyone else could have. Raghav respects her immensely and his eyes showed his gratitude. Sanki stopped Pallavi but her lack of action yesterday and nonchalance about what happened is noticeable. She suddenly wants to talk about them and wants to live in a dream but the reality is different. Perhaps the only plus point here is that Raghav will be Sherlock and investigate on his own with the help of his Dr. Watson, Farhad.


Anyway, whatever. They listened to fan demand and did these scenes last minute, so it diluted the entire impact of yesterday's episode and didn't address the key lessons both characters needed to learn. I am sure they will come back to these topics later when the fandom is more receptive.

Farhad is the only one in all this mess who believed these two had a misunderstanding. Astute as ever. They should use him more in the story.

Geeta ji knocked it out of the park today with her facial expressions. She didn't have many words but her feelings were in her eyes. I know she's a veteran and a great actress but still I appreciate her. smiley27

Ayi rockstar, talk to the hand moment was great. 👏 Too bad Sanki won't listen. I want to see what he does after her accident. Will he care for her now that he sees he might end up losing her and then see Mandaar's truth eventually? I hope at least this time Raghav connects the dots and realizes that here too just when Pallavi returned home (or was returned home) some new drama started. Also, don't judge me for wanting to see Raghav caring for Ayi and opening up to her. Their affection and admiration for each other is always under the surface but very much visible in the non-verbal communication between them. I love it but would want to see that relationship develop. I still feel as if Sanki is going to end up being Raghav's biggest supporter later on. Don't ask me why.

Koi Keerti aur Sunny ki shaadi karwado aur unko hi Australia bhej do (which is what used to happen to criminals in the past).

LOL at Raghav saying in his own words that Pallavi aa gayi hai to noor aa gaya hai... Sorry dude, you don't convince me anymore. Let them both remain in la la land for a while and then battle further. They are literally in the honeymoon phase.

As for Raghav and Pallavi going for a honeymoon, they might as well go to Kolhapur for a break. If there was no COVID I might have considered they'd make a trip. Well, they will but to the hospital and D-house from now on. Raghav should save energy and petrol and either rent a room there or buy a house next to it (don't tell me about the sets being next door because I am going to ignore that real-life detail.)


Sandip, this is what happens when you listen to fans and make drastic changes to scenes. They feel disjointed and out of place, like the entire sari folding and silly promise scene. Also, Sai defaulting to proper Hindi grammar was jarring for a change. It's ok, hota hai. Kaghaz par likhne ka kya matlab hai? Woh baad mein wallet se nikaal kar royega kya?


Today's episode was hands down the most disappointing for me since I've started watching the show. Mood bhi nahin hai aage dekhne ka. 😔


Too below the belt for mhrw. To summarise.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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I have so many mixed thoughts about the makeup scene.


I was one hand happy that the misunderstandings cleared, and i loved seeing the 2 sensible women together with raghvi with patchup


I also liked the promises because it was a nice assurance and it was needed.


However


I did not like the presentation of raghav shown somewhat puppy dogging for pallavi. Wanting her to talk to him.. and her giving kinda cold vibes. Shouldnt it have been in reverse?


I also wanted it to be more emotional than it was. And more angry words said. But it wasnt.


Pallavi still shown disregarding raghavs words about mandhar. Raghav still not sharing about mandhar openly. Why best around the bush? Just openly say pallavi im sorry you need to hear this and it needs to be out in the open. Her saying.. "dont say mandhar is behind this" was STUPID.

She didnt applogize at all. And neither did he .. her for ignoring him.. recognizing it was good but im sorry never came out. He also didnt apologize for not trusting her and letting insecurity run between them.


I get sickand wants to move on and i guess i can forgive and forget also since this track was rushed to be closed and changed but they really could have taken some time and wrote it well.


Oh well.. move on i guess. 😵

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: fria319

I feel like you and me have been on the same page a lot about this track.


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I felt very disappointed through out the whole episode. It really gave off the vibe that Pallavi felt she did nothing wrong, everything was misunderstood by Raghav.


My point was always - even if it was misunderstood by him, even if she never did anything intentionally to hurt him, the hurt he felt was still real. And to gaslight or brush that as "oh you misunderstood" it's just not fair to him. He's entitled to feel however he wants when it comes to how his wife's actions effect him - just like Pallavi is as well. Kind of upset they glossed over it that quickly.


The problem I majorly find with her action is that she is thinking from prospective of pallavi deshmukh (the widow of mandar and DIL of deshmukh) and not as pallavi rao.I think makers intended to do in this way only but it backfired.


Whenever raghav say something suspicious about mandar , her subconscious mind doesn't register it because his image is like a perfect human being in her mind. She had this great guy notion about him and somewhere also feels guilty for moving on with raghav.


She had lived 2 years as mandar widow and his mother had treated her like more than real daughter. It doesn't matter ti her how other d family members treated her. It's only Aayi who was most important to her and she desperately wants to give her son.

Whenever raghav tries to show her mandar evil intentions and burst her bubble , she herself chose to block it as she feel it will invalidates her pain of 2 years of being this good man mandar widow.She wants to protect herself from the reality check.


In her heart the romantic love will always be raghav and he will be till her last breathe on this earth.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: fria319

I feel like you and me have been on the same page a lot about this track.


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I felt very disappointed through out the whole episode. It really gave off the vibe that Pallavi felt she did nothing wrong, everything was misunderstood by Raghav.


My point was always - even if it was misunderstood by him, even if she never did anything intentionally to hurt him, the hurt he felt was still real. And to gaslight or brush that as "oh you misunderstood" it's just not fair to him. He's entitled to feel however he wants when it comes to how his wife's actions effect him - just like Pallavi is as well. Kind of upset they glossed over it that quickly.


This is what was the biggest let down of today's episode.. I wish instead of showing keerti-sunny nonsense scene..they could have shown pallavi introspecting the last 7 days events, realising how she has been unfair to raghav, how her deeds would have hurt him and broken him..

Raghav has been very vocal about his feelings, he has told her clearly but it was falling to deaf ears...the moment at the window , when she saw raghav going away or being taken away would have been the perfect time for showing her realisation..

But another golden opportunity wasted...

Also what for and what was the dialogue about packing in hurry...like seriously..when she left RR mansion..she was in such a hurry to fulfill her duty that she didn't bother about her saree, luggage etc etc but now she wanted time to properly pack her bags, say goodbye to VD and Mandaar .

No sense of urgency to meet her kahaani.....?? She should have been the one trying to run away from VD, instead aayee had to do that for her...like she reminded her about the event ..with all this if she says raghav is her priority and most important to her..how will any one believe and connect to her...

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