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Posted: 3 years ago

Originally posted by: Raingoddess

I don’t know if I was the only one, but I didn’t particularly like how Raavi described Shiva. The handsome part was okay. But she said jaisa uska naam, waisi uski seerat. It seemed so generic and something one would say in a marriage ad or when someone comes with a rishta.


I’m not married but I don’t know how many women would describe their husband like that. I understand what the dialogue is trying to say. In the end, being a man of good character is super important and it hints towards the concept of inner beauty. I just didn’t think the dialogue was well written and realistic. Didn’t seem like how one would describe one’s partner to college friends.

Having said that, I do believe it gives us an insight as to how Raavi views this marriage vs how Shiva does. I read a few comments in the last few pages that bring up this discussion. Adding to that, I think Raavi is happy being a Pandya Bahu which makes sense because that was her childhood dream. Dev was the best way of getting there. Her only option. She never imagined a different possibility. I think this is why if Shiva shows any form of kindness, Raavi is happy and doesn’t need anything else. She’s content with that.

The way she views her marriage is pretty much similar to how many of the women in the generations past have viewed their marriage (not all - there were some amazing women in my family who broke this illusion). Raavi has always cared for and loved Shiva in her own way. Now he’s her husband and she cares for him because they share a relationship. But that’s where it ends. He has a good character and if he’s kind to her, what else could she need. Her life is set. We see no other goals for her. The only issue is Shiva’s behavior but even that she’s used to from their childhood. She never really goes beyond that and it fits into her little world because it doesn’t require change. I wonder if that’s another reason why she wanted to marry Dev. He’s a package in the eyes of society and doesn’t involve himself in complicated emotions. She could happily be part of the family and not have to confront any of the messy stuff.

When it comes to Raavi, there is an emotional detachment. She avoids having to dealing with anything too intense (hence her not reflecting on the humiliation) and moves on (in her mind) by being bubbly the next second. This is why she never really sits down to think about exactly what is going through his mind. She just says it on the outside (why are you doing this, etc…) and moves on.


I know it’s not her responsibility alone to help him overcome his insecurities but if she wants to continue this relationship in a healthy manner, it’s important to understand where things are going wrong. And to get the help they need. I really wish the writers would help us understand Raavi better. This is all just me guessing based on what we see. Raavi is happy being a Pandya and if it were up to her, she would just let things go as is as long as Shiva can do the bare minimum.


But Shiva on the other hand, wants so much more. He wants a real relationship. Not what Raavi had planned for herself and Dev. He wants her attention, her acceptance and all those little moments that ensure that a couple go beyond just husband wife on paper.

Shiva has grown up watching GauRa. And Shiva is not dumb. He knows the passion his brother and bhabhi share. Not to compare the two couples but a lot of Shiva’s ideas do come from seeing a couple who share love, passion and a healthy relationship. They go beyond being husband and wife and are very openly affectionate. Dhara and Gaumbi may have started as the couple who fall in love after being married but they do represent a newer generation of couples who are openly affectionate despite being married for a longer period of time. They communicate and work on their relationship. They don’t take it for granted (no “we are married and that’s all that matters” kinda mentality) and make the effort to make the other person feel loved. I see such couples amongst my married friends or older cousins while my parents would fall into the “we are married and that’s all that counts” kinda couples. Both are unique in their own ways. But GauRa are def the former.


For example, if Dhara was to get up at night and pester Gaumbi for icecream, he might act like an older bro and tell her no but eventually the hubby in him will give in. They will go out for icecream but chances are it will become a date. They will be playful with one another and actually have lots of fun. They might even share an emotional conversation. Overall, a fulfilling night between two individuals. We saw something similar with Gaumbi and his nighttime snack. It’s a fulfilling relationship that goes beyond “he’s my husband” and “she’s my wife”. They aren’t just spouses but are almost like siblings, parental figures for each other, companions, best friends, lovers, and two individuals. All this comes together to define their relationship.

They weren’t always like this of course… they grew into it. This is where the biggest difference lies. The dynamic between ShiVi is so explosive that Shiva wants this now! But in their own way! He wants her to reciprocate his touches, give him the attention he wants, and go beyond being just his wife. For him, it’s all or nothing. And I understand where he is coming from.


For Shiva, it’s important for Raavi to want him. Physically and emotionally. For her to keep aside their legal and societal relationship and indulge in other aspects. That for him is a real relationship and he’s not wrong. Who doesn’t want a fulfilling relationship?


Not sure where I really went with this but I feel like both of them have a long way to go in terms of understanding their own emotions and each other’s. What is it that they truly want from this relationship? And if they don’t want the same thing, they should reconsider their relationship? Otherwise the misunderstandings will keep happening and resentment/bitterness will grow. Too bad ITV rarely indulges in heart to hearts. These two need that and counseling honestly.


Raavi has to realize that Shiva isn’t Dev. He won’t happily go along with her bubble. Weirdly enough, I feel like that’s what Dev wants from Rishita. He doesn’t want to confront any issues and is happy as long as they are living the role of husband and wife. Yikes!

I loved this ❤️ And in some sort of weird way is giving closure on Raavi- maybe I like this explanation of Raavi's behavior. An emotionally absent Raavi. And I guess her journey would be to become emotionally attached to Shiva despite the fear of abandonment, instead of just "liking" him from a distance.

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Posted: 3 years ago

I dont think they will show Gaura adopting this girl. If they show them adopting this girl then this baby track will end . But they will stretch it as much as they can as trps have increased. I am sure next track is Dhara getting pregnant and Anita trying to harm the baby.

Edited by majoni03 - 3 years ago
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Posted: 3 years ago

Originally posted by: Pixiepadhi

Just saw a pic of little girl with dhara,gombi and suman on twitter while doing the scene..

She had a BTS pic with KD too.

Are they going ahead with adoption track?😍

Sry if this has already been discussed.i haven't done hw🤕.

Ok...in OG there is a track when Pandya bros cousin sister comes from foreign...and that didi's daughter is sooo attached with shiva

Are they gonna show this track

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Posted: 3 years ago

Even if they want to introduce adoption, they will get a younger kid.

Even if adoption track comes they will either take a infant or max. 5 yr old kid as that way it will bring more tracks. This kid looks older.

In ITV they use Small kids to make a couple come together and for comic timing. Either the kid is below 5 or have crossed 18 yrs. Aise he age wale bacche hote hain shows mein.

Edited by ShinyShine - 3 years ago
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Posted: 3 years ago

Honestly Shiny is not that successful actress that she can disagree to play a pregnant lady. Her only successful show is PS. Many actresses who are far more successful than her even played mother to adults

Edited by majoni03 - 3 years ago
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Posted: 3 years ago

Originally posted by: ShinyShine

Even if they want to introduce adoption, they will get a younger kid.

Even if adoption track comes they will either take a infant or max. 5 yr old kid as that way it will bring more tracks. This kid looks older.

In ITV they use Small kids to make a couple come together, for comic timing. Either the kid is below 5 or have crossed 18 yrs. Aise he age wale bacche hote hain shows mein.

But I don't think Shiny would want to get pregnant soo soon or get such a old child.

In OG this kid is the only one who actually appreciates Shiva and they are very attached to each other...this track showed Raavi a new side of Shiva(though in OG ShiVi had no serious probs with each other and Raavi had already started liking Shiva)and the girls mom wud ask Gaura to conceive...but thats all that hapnd in OG..Malayalam is on this track now and its gg well

I dont know what hindi version is gonna do with the gal...

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Posted: 3 years ago

Originally posted by: Popzzzz

In OG this kid is the only one who actually appreciates Shiva and they are very attached to each other...this track showed Raavi a new side of Shiva(though in OG ShiVi had no serious probs with each other and Raavi had already started liking Shiva)and the girls mom wud ask Gaura to conceive...but thats all that hapnd in OG..Malayalam is on this track now and its gg well

I dont know what hindi version is gonna do with the gal...

They will take a random point from og and spoil it and give us excess Anita and other shit than what we want.

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Posted: 3 years ago

I am replying to you here as this discussion is worth an EDT reference! Most of the people on the internet read this thread majorly! I want people to make more relevant posts here so that more people have access to it.


Originally posted by: Faithaboveall

Wanted to share this after seeing the pics of the new little girl and the comments here.

I have secretly been hoping they show adoption but I know that now how PS writers work sadly 😕

During the second wave my parents got msgs that there were kids up for adoption since they had lost both their parents to covid 😢😢 two of them were girls just 2-3 days old😢

I so wished I had the courage and means to adopt one child...

PS has so much potential and if they go for adoption it will give out such a good msg too...

Suman is shown as a string character,they should have used her in a positive way instead of the crap they're serving us😖

Also I feel after the sm uproar plus the clash with the stupid award guys somehow makers are hell bent on showing the audience who the leads are😕😕

First of all, please understand SM uproar or offscreen drama rarely have any influence on the storyline. As a business, it's only the TRP that matters! The crap served gave them The desired results, and It shall continue!

Coming back to adoption, it's a brave, bold step that no one cares about to date. Millions of children are homeless, and show like these reiterate the importance of having our DNA continuity.

I am sharing a video that shall give you a fair amount of idea of the existing problem.

Our neighbouring show, which ended despite being so progressive where the female lead gives up love to pursue her education, was purely business too.

The show's last scene shows the male trying to make perfectly round rotis serving hot food while the girl is eating with the entire family.

That's progressive, and SM was erupting with people spamming with love, but the show ended.

It goes to Show TRP matters! Content consumption is a very layered subject, and trusts me, you'd be surprised to see most writers, when they write for OTT, churn out different content. It's sheer business.

Coming back to adoption, PS will not show it. TRP audience craves for Apna Khoon more.

Male infertility-big taboo too. I have given up hope.


https://youtu.be/TtqLLg8-rk4


https://youtu.be/gcatEjuaDBw

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Posted: 3 years ago

One other thing I wanted to mention and liked in yesterday’s episode was Suman- Krish conversation, Though it revolved around Dhara again, liked the acting by both the actors and there was something natural about it. I wish to see such scenes between different characters instead of constant screaming and breakdown by Dhara and plotting by Anita.

Ofcourse I liked ShiVi scene and KD’s acting stood out for me.

I am going to keep reiterating with the hope that PS spies are lurking in the forum, keep this a family story focusing on the 3 couples and Krish their trials and tribulations. Please do not make it one dimensional and focus on only one couple, that is GauRa in this case. Every track, problem need not be tied to them, if that’s the case, then there shouldn’t have been a leap, kept the children as his and continued to show what GauRa went through every step of the way.
It is tiring to see the same plot -GauRa’s baccha in every track😕

Edited by mpks1 - 3 years ago
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Posted: 3 years ago

I have already shared this post on Transference's thread but I will post on this thread as well. For the first time in a long time I feel light in sharing this personal story with an amazing group of people, who listen, understand and are respectful to one another.

I usually do not watch indian tv, mostly just watch one track at the beginning then completely forget the show.

PS is different for me because of how much I connect with Shiva, and how much of my mom I see in Raavi. Now I am addicted to this couple.

I am like Shiva completely, from the anger issues to the person that will go to the ends of world for family. My mom is like Raavi in terms of forgiving easily, there has only been 1 person she has not forgiven in 57 years. But she is not a airhead like Raavi, rather she is very intelligent and perceptive.

Now coming to the point why I am addicted to Shivi, my parents marriage was also a forced marriage centred around hate for each other and each other's family. My paternal grandmother has always hated my maternal grandmother from childhood and she instilled that hatred into my father. My mom was originally engaged to someone else, sadly he died on their wedding day (my mom was literally getting her makeup done when she heard about his passing). My mother never really recovered from that, she only shared this with me a few months ago when I got engaged. She said after his death, she lost that excitement regarding marriage and life, she knew my dad and his family hated her and she had no hope for the future, she just compromised because life had already dealt her blow that she never recovered from. Though I was angry with Raavi for using the word compromise, the scene brought back what my mom told me. Raavi must have also lost that excitement and hope regarding marriage and life especially after parents death, being dumped at the altar and marrying someone who hates her. She also does not hope of a normal marriage so she is compromising with her situation.

Before anyone asks how my parents got married, it was political alliance between my great grandfathers, both were very high ranking politicians, so the marriage was an alliance between two political parties and village tribes.

When I see Shivi on screen right now, I see my parents for the last 30 years. The only difference is that my dad never loved/liked my mom, he was in love with a Russian girl. A happy ending for Shivi is like an AU for my parents.

Shivi storyline is beautiful if the writers actually write a proper story. It has so much potential but cvs are busy showing chewing gum nonsense.

Anyway don't know why I am sharing this but reading all the post in the last few weeks have made me look at my parents relationship a little differently and their story has made connect with Shiva and Raavi in a very deep spiritual level.

Edited by Mahidev - 3 years ago

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