Pandya Store|Episode Discussion#75|Shiva Ka Dard (RED ALERT) - Page 93

Omg I just wrote an essay 🤣 sorry guys 🤣🤣

Originally posted by: Pixiepadhi

I remember seeing shows in which almost half the epsiode or more was occupied by the lead couple.

Ab kya din aa gaye hai that 5 mins scene in a episode bhi bahut zyada lag raha hai.🤣🤣

I just want ki har episode Mai atleast ek scene ho.the complete shiviless episodes spoils my mood subah subah 🤕

@bold: humari kismat aise nahi chamkegi kabhi 🤣

Unfortunately GauRa is the lead couple for the CVs, ShiVi toh bas online fans ke liye lead couple hai 😒

PS has an ensemble cast, so I want every couple to get their due, not just GauRa!

I doubt we’ll get any shivi scene longer than 1-2 mins

The bts clearly shows the entire focus will be on janu, anita and gaura

Shiva raavi have been completely sidelined :/

Originally posted by: Raingoddess

I don’t know if I was the only one, but I didn’t particularly like how Raavi described Shiva. The handsome part was okay. But she said jaisa uska naam, waisi uski seerat. It seemed so generic and something one would say in a marriage ad or when someone comes with a rishta.

I’m not married but I don’t know how many women would describe their husband like that. I understand what the dialogue is trying to say. In the end, being a man of good character is super important and it hints towards the concept of inner beauty. I just didn’t think the dialogue was well written and realistic. Didn’t seem like how one would describe one’s partner to college friends.

Having said that, I do believe it gives us an insight as to how Raavi views this marriage vs how Shiva does. I read a few comments in the last few pages that bring up this discussion. Adding to that, I think Raavi is happy being a Pandya Bahu which makes sense because that was her childhood dream. Dev was the best way of getting there. Her only option. She never imagined a different possibility. I think this is why if Shiva shows any form of kindness, Raavi is happy and doesn’t need anything else. She’s content with that.

The way she views her marriage is pretty much similar to how many of the women in the generations past have viewed their marriage (not all - there were some amazing women in my family who broke this illusion). Raavi has always cared for and loved Shiva in her own way. Now he’s her husband and she cares for him because they share a relationship. But that’s where it ends. He has a good character and if he’s kind to her, what else could she need. Her life is set. We see no other goals for her. The only issue is Shiva’s behavior but even that she’s used to from their childhood. She never really goes beyond that and it fits into her little world because it doesn’t require change. I wonder if that’s another reason why she wanted to marry Dev. He’s a package in the eyes of society and doesn’t involve himself in complicated emotions. She could happily be part of the family and not have to confront any of the messy stuff.

When it comes to Raavi, there is an emotional detachment. She avoids having to dealing with anything too intense (hence her not reflecting on the humiliation) and moves on (in her mind) by being bubbly the next second. This is why she never really sits down to think about exactly what is going through his mind. She just says it on the outside (why are you doing this, etc…) and moves on.

I know it’s not her responsibility alone to help him overcome his insecurities but if she wants to continue this relationship in a healthy manner, it’s important to understand where things are going wrong. And to get the help they need. I really wish the writers would help us understand Raavi better. This is all just me guessing based on what we see. Raavi is happy being a Pandya and if it were up to her, she would just let things go as is as long as Shiva can do the bare minimum.

But Shiva on the other hand, wants so much more. He wants a real relationship. Not what Raavi had planned for herself and Dev. He wants her attention, her acceptance and all those little moments that ensure that a couple go beyond just husband wife on paper.

Shiva has grown up watching GauRa. And Shiva is not dumb. He knows the passion his brother and bhabhi share. Not to compare the two couples but a lot of Shiva’s ideas do come from seeing a couple who share love, passion and a healthy relationship. They go beyond being husband and wife and are very openly affectionate. Dhara and Gaumbi may have started as the couple who fall in love after being married but they do represent a newer generation of couples who are openly affectionate despite being married for a longer period of time. They communicate and work on their relationship. They don’t take it for granted (no we are married and that’s all that matters kinda mentality) and make the effort to make the other person feel loved. I see such couples amongst my married friends or older cousins while my parents would fall into the “we are married and that’s all that counts” kinda couples. Both are unique in their own ways. But GauRa are def the former.

For example, if Dhara was to get up at night and pester Gaumbi for icecream, he might act like an older bro and tell her no but eventually the hubby in him will give in. They will go out for icecream but chances are it will become a date. They will be playful with one another and actually have lots of fun. They might even share an emotional conversation. Overall, a fulfilling night between two individuals. We saw something similar with Gaumbi and his nighttime snack. It’s a fulfilling relationship that goes beyond “he’s my husband” and “she’s my wife”. They aren’t just spouses but are almost like siblings, parental figures for each other, companions, best friends, lovers, and two individuals. All this comes together to define their relationship.

They weren’t always like this of course… they grew into it. This is where the biggest difference lies. The dynamic between ShiVi is so explosive that Shiva wants this now! But in their own way! He wants her to reciprocate his touches, give him the attention he wants, and go beyond being just his wife. For him, it’s all or nothing. And I understand where he is coming from.

For Shiva, it’s important for Raavi to want him. Physically and emotionally. For her to keep aside their legal and societal relationship and indulge in other aspects. That for him is a real relationship and he’s not wrong. Who doesn’t want a fulfilling relationship?

Not sure where I really went with this but I feel like both of them have a long way to go in terms of understanding their own emotions and each other’s. What is it that they truly want from this relationship? And if they don’t want the same thing, they should reconsider their relationship? Otherwise the misunderstandings will keep happening and resentment/bitterness will grow. Too bad ITV rarely indulges in heart to hearts. These two need that and counseling honestly.

Raavi has to realize that Shiva isn’t Dev. He won’t happily go along with her bubble. Weirdly enough, I feel like that’s what Dev wants to Rishita. He doesn’t want to confront any issues and is happy as long as they are living the role of husband and wife. Yikes!

Couldn't have said it better ❤️

They are on entirely different pages on the concept of marriage.

Shiva wants a proper relationship with the love, respect, acceptance that comes with it.not just a platonic compromised companionship.he has seen the devotion, passion, love that gaura share, he himself is an emotional, deep layered character. He can't be happy with friendship, formality and all the stuff.

Raavi is too complicated for me to understand now.

She wants to go in the filmy way.starting afresh from dosti or ajnabee. Being cordial with each other, doing the hubby wifey stuff.she cooking for him, bringing gifts for him. Being the pandya bahu.thats all she wants at this stage.

Honestly as much As I try to search reasons for her actions, the writers have messed up big time regarding her characterisation.

She was so emotionally affected that she tried to kill herself on her marriage day.she was literally shivering while getting married to shiva.

And then she moves on within what? A day or two?

Now she is in some other world itself.

She thinks shiva is handsome? That's a bit superficial, isn't she supposed to fall for the less groomed, shabbily dressed boy Because he has a heart of gold?

But when she was asked to describe shiva.she just said handsome.

Originally posted by: Raingoddess

I don’t know if I was the only one, but I didn’t particularly like how Raavi described Shiva. The handsome part was okay. But she said jaisa uska naam, waisi uski seerat. It seemed so generic and something one would say in a marriage ad or when someone comes with a rishta.

I’m not married but I don’t know how many women would describe their husband like that. I understand what the dialogue is trying to say. In the end, being a man of good character is super important and it hints towards the concept of inner beauty. I just didn’t think the dialogue was well written and realistic. Didn’t seem like how one would describe one’s partner to college friends.

Having said that, I do believe it gives us an insight as to how Raavi views this marriage vs how Shiva does. I read a few comments in the last few pages that bring up this discussion. Adding to that, I think Raavi is happy being a Pandya Bahu which makes sense because that was her childhood dream. Dev was the best way of getting there. Her only option. She never imagined a different possibility. I think this is why if Shiva shows any form of kindness, Raavi is happy and doesn’t need anything else. She’s content with that.

The way she views her marriage is pretty much similar to how many of the women in the generations past have viewed their marriage (not all - there were some amazing women in my family who broke this illusion). Raavi has always cared for and loved Shiva in her own way. Now he’s her husband and she cares for him because they share a relationship. But that’s where it ends. He has a good character and if he’s kind to her, what else could she need. Her life is set. We see no other goals for her. The only issue is Shiva’s behavior but even that she’s used to from their childhood. She never really goes beyond that and it fits into her little world because it doesn’t require change. I wonder if that’s another reason why she wanted to marry Dev. He’s a package in the eyes of society and doesn’t involve himself in complicated emotions. She could happily be part of the family and not have to confront any of the messy stuff.

When it comes to Raavi, there is an emotional detachment. She avoids having to dealing with anything too intense (hence her not reflecting on the humiliation) and moves on (in her mind) by being bubbly the next second. This is why she never really sits down to think about exactly what is going through his mind. She just says it on the outside (why are you doing this, etc…) and moves on.

I know it’s not her responsibility alone to help him overcome his insecurities but if she wants to continue this relationship in a healthy manner, it’s important to understand where things are going wrong. And to get the help they need. I really wish the writers would help us understand Raavi better. This is all just me guessing based on what we see. Raavi is happy being a Pandya and if it were up to her, she would just let things go as is as long as Shiva can do the bare minimum.

But Shiva on the other hand, wants so much more. He wants a real relationship. Not what Raavi had planned for herself and Dev. He wants her attention, her acceptance and all those little moments that ensure that a couple go beyond just husband wife on paper.

Shiva has grown up watching GauRa. And Shiva is not dumb. He knows the passion his brother and bhabhi share. Not to compare the two couples but a lot of Shiva’s ideas do come from seeing a couple who share love, passion and a healthy relationship. They go beyond being husband and wife and are very openly affectionate. Dhara and Gaumbi may have started as the couple who fall in love after being married but they do represent a newer generation of couples who are openly affectionate despite being married for a longer period of time. They communicate and work on their relationship. They don’t take it for granted (no “we are married and that’s all that matters” kinda mentality) and make the effort to make the other person feel loved. I see such couples amongst my married friends or older cousins while my parents would fall into the “we are married and that’s all that counts” kinda couples. Both are unique in their own ways. But GauRa are def the former.

For example, if Dhara was to get up at night and pester Gaumbi for icecream, he might act like an older bro and tell her no but eventually the hubby in him will give in. They will go out for icecream but chances are it will become a date. They will be playful with one another and actually have lots of fun. They might even share an emotional conversation. Overall, a fulfilling night between two individuals. We saw something similar with Gaumbi and his nighttime snack. It’s a fulfilling relationship that goes beyond “he’s my husband” and “she’s my wife”. They aren’t just spouses but are almost like siblings, parental figures for each other, companions, best friends, lovers, and two individuals. All this comes together to define their relationship.

They weren’t always like this of course… they grew into it. This is where the biggest difference lies. The dynamic between ShiVi is so explosive that Shiva wants this now! But in their own way! He wants her to reciprocate his touches, give him the attention he wants, and go beyond being just his wife. For him, it’s all or nothing. And I understand where he is coming from.

For Shiva, it’s important for Raavi to want him. Physically and emotionally. For her to keep aside their legal and societal relationship and indulge in other aspects. That for him is a real relationship and he’s not wrong. Who doesn’t want a fulfilling relationship?

Not sure where I really went with this but I feel like both of them have a long way to go in terms of understanding their own emotions and each other’s. What is it that they truly want from this relationship? And if they don’t want the same thing, they should reconsider their relationship? Otherwise the misunderstandings will keep happening and resentment/bitterness will grow. Too bad ITV rarely indulges in heart to hearts. These two need that and counseling honestly.

Raavi has to realize that Shiva isn’t Dev. He won’t happily go along with her bubble. Weirdly enough, I feel like that’s what Dev wants from Rishita. He doesn’t want to confront any issues and is happy as long as they are living the role of husband and wife. Yikes!

This post is gold eshu❤

Originally posted by: GrilledCheese

@bold: humari kismat aise nahi chamkegi kabhi 🤣

Unfortunately GauRa is the lead couple for the CVs, ShiVi toh bas online fans ke liye lead couple hai 😒

PS has an ensemble cast, so I want every couple to get their due, not just GauRa!

Cvs k liye gaura b lead nai hain.. Unke liye dhara k ord gird sab ghoom raha hai🤪

Originally posted by: Raingoddess

Omg I just wrote an essay 🤣 sorry guys 🤣🤣

It was well worth the read, Esha! ❤️

You've perfectly described, what I think, the CVs are trying to do with this track. I'm unsure of why Raavi needs to be emotionally detached, myself. I don't know if it is related to her being an orphan and perhaps having the fear that she shouldn't ever grow emotionally attached just to lose it in the future.

In terms of what you wrote in the absolute beginning... I agree with you. She described Shiva very plainly as if she didn't have an childhood history with him. I'm not married, but if I had to describe my friends to other friends, I would use very different language. If I was her, I would probably roll my eyes and say, "He's the most annoying little creature to exist on the planet!! He's so stubborn, and when he gets angry you need to make sure there's nothing he can grab onto, oh and he's a terrible singer!!" and afterwards, with a smile, I would probably say, "But that's what makes him Shiva... he's a full package of emotions and keeps everything interesting!"

So, I understand what you mean. Her generic description is what I would tell pesky aunties that are inquiring about my love life. For anyone who calls me "catty cat" I would definitely give them more 😆

I just can't tolerate oily and her third angle😡

Mai irritated hoon

Originally posted by: Raingoddess

I don’t know if I was the only one, but I didn’t particularly like how Raavi described Shiva. The handsome part was okay. But she said jaisa uska naam, waisi uski seerat. It seemed so generic and something one would say in a marriage ad or when someone comes with a rishta.

I’m not married but I don’t know how many women would describe their husband like that. I understand what the dialogue is trying to say. In the end, being a man of good character is super important and it hints towards the concept of inner beauty. I just didn’t think the dialogue was well written and realistic. Didn’t seem like how one would describe one’s partner to college friends.

Having said that, I do believe it gives us an insight as to how Raavi views this marriage vs how Shiva does. I read a few comments in the last few pages that bring up this discussion. Adding to that, I think Raavi is happy being a Pandya Bahu which makes sense because that was her childhood dream. Dev was the best way of getting there. Her only option. She never imagined a different possibility. I think this is why if Shiva shows any form of kindness, Raavi is happy and doesn’t need anything else. She’s content with that.

The way she views her marriage is pretty much similar to how many of the women in the generations past have viewed their marriage (not all - there were some amazing women in my family who broke this illusion). Raavi has always cared for and loved Shiva in her own way. Now he’s her husband and she cares for him because they share a relationship. But that’s where it ends. He has a good character and if he’s kind to her, what else could she need. Her life is set. We see no other goals for her. The only issue is Shiva’s behavior but even that she’s used to from their childhood. She never really goes beyond that and it fits into her little world because it doesn’t require change. I wonder if that’s another reason why she wanted to marry Dev. He’s a package in the eyes of society and doesn’t involve himself in complicated emotions. She could happily be part of the family and not have to confront any of the messy stuff.

When it comes to Raavi, there is an emotional detachment. She avoids having to dealing with anything too intense (hence her not reflecting on the humiliation) and moves on (in her mind) by being bubbly the next second. This is why she never really sits down to think about exactly what is going through his mind. She just says it on the outside (why are you doing this, etc…) and moves on.

I know it’s not her responsibility alone to help him overcome his insecurities but if she wants to continue this relationship in a healthy manner, it’s important to understand where things are going wrong. And to get the help they need. I really wish the writers would help us understand Raavi better. This is all just me guessing based on what we see. Raavi is happy being a Pandya and if it were up to her, she would just let things go as is as long as Shiva can do the bare minimum.

But Shiva on the other hand, wants so much more. He wants a real relationship. Not what Raavi had planned for herself and Dev. He wants her attention, her acceptance and all those little moments that ensure that a couple go beyond just husband wife on paper.

Shiva has grown up watching GauRa. And Shiva is not dumb. He knows the passion his brother and bhabhi share. Not to compare the two couples but a lot of Shiva’s ideas do come from seeing a couple who share love, passion and a healthy relationship. They go beyond being husband and wife and are very openly affectionate. Dhara and Gaumbi may have started as the couple who fall in love after being married but they do represent a newer generation of couples who are openly affectionate despite being married for a longer period of time. They communicate and work on their relationship. They don’t take it for granted (no “we are married and that’s all that matters” kinda mentality) and make the effort to make the other person feel loved. I see such couples amongst my married friends or older cousins while my parents would fall into the “we are married and that’s all that counts” kinda couples. Both are unique in their own ways. But GauRa are def the former.

For example, if Dhara was to get up at night and pester Gaumbi for icecream, he might act like an older bro and tell her no but eventually the hubby in him will give in. They will go out for icecream but chances are it will become a date. They will be playful with one another and actually have lots of fun. They might even share an emotional conversation. Overall, a fulfilling night between two individuals. We saw something similar with Gaumbi and his nighttime snack. It’s a fulfilling relationship that goes beyond “he’s my husband” and “she’s my wife”. They aren’t just spouses but are almost like siblings, parental figures for each other, companions, best friends, lovers, and two individuals. All this comes together to define their relationship.

They weren’t always like this of course… they grew into it. This is where the biggest difference lies. The dynamic between ShiVi is so explosive that Shiva wants this now! But in their own way! He wants her to reciprocate his touches, give him the attention he wants, and go beyond being just his wife. For him, it’s all or nothing. And I understand where he is coming from.

For Shiva, it’s important for Raavi to want him. Physically and emotionally. For her to keep aside their legal and societal relationship and indulge in other aspects. That for him is a real relationship and he’s not wrong. Who doesn’t want a fulfilling relationship?

Not sure where I really went with this but I feel like both of them have a long way to go in terms of understanding their own emotions and each other’s. What is it that they truly want from this relationship? And if they don’t want the same thing, they should reconsider their relationship? Otherwise the misunderstandings will keep happening and resentment/bitterness will grow. Too bad ITV rarely indulges in heart to hearts. These two need that and counseling honestly.

Raavi has to realize that Shiva isn’t Dev. He won’t happily go along with her bubble. Weirdly enough, I feel like that’s what Dev wants from Rishita. He doesn’t want to confront any issues and is happy as long as they are living the role of husband and wife. Yikes!

This is an amazing post! I mentioned bits and pieces of this in some of my earlier posts.. I also thought that Raavi's description of Shiva was somewhat superficial, but I wasn't surprised because her character in general is like that.. she gives a lot of importance to appearance. She used the word "sirat" though for which I was glad, otherwise it would have just become all about the looks

Shiva and Raavi have a different understanding and expectations from their marriage and their relationship. They really need to have an open, honest, heart-to-heart conversation where they clearly spell all of this out.

Raavi seems to be satisfied with the "bare minimum" from Shiva and just being a Pandya bahu, but Shiva won't be. And if Shiva does not want to stay in a relationship that lacks passion, physical and emotional attachment and desire; and Raavi is unable to or does not want to provide him that, then both are right in their own places. The only logical course of action to take them would be a separation 💔

Unfortunately, ITV will not dig this deep 🤪

Originally posted by: nafees5

I just can't tolerate oily and her third angle😡

Mai irritated hoon

Family drama and Oily drama has got them TRPs.. so there will be more of this unfortunately 🤢

scenes skip kar de wo waale.. we have no choice 😕