Rewind and Review - Episode 7 - Page 4

Originally posted by: kiranpri

Anokhi by sticking to her guns merely enrages her father further, who at the end of the day, not knowing how to cope with her, vents out all his frustration on the other two women, his wife and other daughter. Now one question that springs to mind, what about his mother? Is she also not a woman? Whay is she not blamed for the granddaughters behaviour or what not?

Personally I believe that words are more hurtful that physical violence. Both are wrong though...

Instead I believe they think if you are a Sabherwal by birth you are beyond blame and above everybody else. Well BM being the eldest, believes she is the matriarch and hence the keeper of Sabherwal values, or whatever crap they belive in.

There was so much that needed to be done in relation to the relation between Ramesh Bhallah and Anokhi, and to think they covered that in one episode!

The first thing that made him eat his words were his son's behabior, But did they need to make the son a vollain tomake Bhallah senior repent?

I think if Ramesh Bhalla blamed his mother for anyone's upbringing, the fingers would start pointing towards him. I find his perspective to be confusing. A girl is a burden. But a woman is needed to birth a male child. So then wouldn't every burdensome girl be a son's mother in the making? Basically girl child bad. But then who would bring all these all important men to life?

I'm not going to compare mental and verbal and physical abuse since severity and ability to cope matters. Words hurt. Mental games can be torture. Beatings can leave a mark. Poor Babli experiences all three, from her father's and husband's hands.

They crucified Raja Bhalla to redeem Ramesh Bhalla, ineffectively. I don't even consider him redeemed per se. At the end, he did what every decent human/parent should do....support his daughters' decisions and feelings.

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Originally posted by: kiranpri

Wow, Just finished watching the episode. Anokhi was such a force of nature, it felt like the episode had just started and it was already over.

Now for Monty and family, the lesser said the better. All of us must have had this experience of having family coming from abroad and behaving like they are superior. I am talking here about the situation some 30 years back. Now relatives from abroad dare not show the same 'superiority' complex since there has been so many of the family who have studies abroad etc. Monty family is the typical 80's NRI family behaviors. They will only act as a catalyst for Anokhi to spread her wings.

It's funny you say this as 30 years back. I see this even today when I visit Kerala. I'm not from a rural area, but not a city either, so a town! Even now, I see the 'superiority' complex those raised in North India have compared to those from the Middle East versus those of us from US/Canada/UK. I have friends/family that only stay in hotels when they visit and those that can't stand the heat or the dirt of India. The ones that have children that can't speak their native language or follow any customs. Seen plenty with marriageable age kids that have decided their children are a catch because of the passport they carry! I don't think Monty's family is atypical even now in a place like Kapurthala.

Ramesh Bhalla- typical patriarch who believes women are nothing but a burden. The way he slapped Babli and the fact she was ready to accept it shows the type of relation that exist in that family.

His rage when Anokhi came back ! If it could be touched, I bet we would all feel it. The fact that he vented his anger on the bike initially showed how much he tried to control himself, but the look that Anokhi gave him was the trigger that made him beat her up.

I'm going to reword this to say that nothing "made him beat her up" other than him going on a power trip and wanting to wield that power over someone 'weaker', especially for the 'embarrassment' he had to suffer. He's a power hungry man who didn't like being challenged by a mere girl he considers to be lesser than him. He has all the signs of a weak insecure man who can only show his manliness by treating someone else worse and showing his physical strength. I'm disgusted that this man was ever redeemed.

There are usually two possibilities in such situations, the girl should just say sorry and go to her room or stay put and face the consequences. Anokhi seems to be the second type of girl. In the process not only she endangers her life but she also risks her sister's and her mum's life in the process. id this a sign of her self respect or selfishness?

I put all the blame of this scene on Ramesh Bhalla, who felt he had the right to hit his child. I see no reason for fear. Weak men beat women to feel strong. I'd rather Anokhi take that stick and hit Ramesh with it to see how he feels.

I felt tired and beaten at the end of the episode. Since I started watching the serial quite late, and missed the intial introduction, this episode was a shock to me. Especially the violence...

Was it your first time seeing this episode? These initial episodes are why Papaji's redemption was so unsatisfactory.

Now for the \sabherwal, What a bunch of assh****, sorry for my french.

What type of people are these who are running an education institution and have the indecency to say to a person that a daughter in law and a daughter are different. My blood boiled. And this is what Shaurya has been brought up with? The two girls BEbo and Kitty, what are they learning in this type of household, that they can get away with anything?

All of Bebo and Kitty's personalities are pure Sabherwals. Shaurya is the only one who lucked out by having the Kashyap blood. After watching the treatment of their mother and bhabhi, they seem to be the instigators. Tej didn't find that social media post himself, the twins clearly brought it to him. And at the mention of their social media presence, they snuck away. I would've loved to see Tej swipe over and see what videos his nieces are making.

I am still in shock with the violence of Ramesh Bhallah.

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Originally posted by: ss286

Seeing her suffer at the hands of her dad in this episode is very painful. I am watching this for the first time. Mr. Bhalla is irredeemable for me. If not for the hasty ending I do not think he would have been redeemed so easily. Also, I now feel Shaurya should have known the complete truth about her dad. Anyone who has been this bad to his Anokhi would have had it from the real Mr. Shaurya Sabherwal!

It's so interesting to hear a first watch reaction. How I wish I could watch these episodes with fresh eyes! These early episodes do make it hard to like Mr Bhalla's redemption later. Shaurya really should have been privy to how bad Anokhi's situation was in Kapurthala.

I want to know what the Sabherwals would do if Kitty's and Bebo's in-laws treated them the way they treat Kanchan and Gayatri. So are they going to marry them into families "lower" in "class" to themselves? So they cannot be as "humiliated" with their antics as they are by Kanchan's?

Sabherwals are apparently the pinnacle of Chandigarh society, so anyone the twins marry must be lesser to them. I don't know how Anmol Arora fits into this society. That would have been interesting to learn.

Also, I pity the girl marrying Raja! If the Bhalla daughters are treated this way, imagine their DIL! She would have dug her own grave by marrying into this family.

Exactly the two things running through my mind when I saw the epi! Both Shaurya as Anokhi's future and Anokhi's promise not to marry. This should be noted as contrasts in future. Like when she says she wouldn't step into Sabherwal house ever and Shaurya reminds to never say never! 😂

Even when we all experienced the 'never say never' scene on the bridge, we knew Anokhi would eat her words because ShaKhi was coming. I don't think I had that intuition when watching Anokhi say that she wouldn't marry, but finish her education. I assumed that was the direction of the story. I thought she would graduate before we got a wedding. I forgot it was ITV!!😆

Me in red. Didn't need a separate post as my thoughts are very similar to yours.Thank u!

Originally posted by: mallukumari

This episode cements why Anokhi is who she is for me. Whenever the audience wanted her to keep quiet in the face of injustice, whenever the viewer wanted her to conform to their societal standards, I remember this episode. Anokhi has lived a life watching Rama and Babli submit to the wants of Ramesh Bhalla. Anokhi as a child prayed for the strength to follow her dreams and Mata Rani delivered. Anokhi’s ambition, intelligence, and dreams are god given, and they should not be compromised for mere mortal standards.

Where Ramesh Bhalla tries to impose his wants through physical violence, the Sabherwals use verbal violence, seen as the more classier route. Instead of taking issue with someone putting Kanchan’s video up without her consent, they chose to blame Kanchan for dancing and then blame Gayatri for not “training” her well. They won’t dare admonish the daughters of the house for similar behavior because then the blame would be on them. It’s better to blame someone else’s daughter and threaten her parents to get her to submit!

Side notes: Laali said that Anokhi would never get a good rishta and get married…..someone please have Laali meet THE Shaurya Sabherwal in season 2!!!😆 Anokhi promised she would study, but never get married…..enter Shaurya Sabherwal to make raita of her plans!! They say “man makes plans, God laughs.”

Precap: SIAC entrance exam! Dolly’s wedding!

This episode makes the future white washing of Ramesh Bhalla indigestible for me! His anger being taken out on Anokhi’s bicycle, throwing and demeaning her hard won trophy, and then beating her makes him an offender who can never be fully redeemed.

Thoughts?

I agree with you on Anokhi- this episodes truly does set stage for who she is and why she is so stubborn unwilling to find a middle ground and see strategic withdrawal as compromise. She has seen her mother and Babli submit, try to find middle ground to appease Mr Bhalla's wishes at their own cost all her life. But it bought them nothing, Mr Bhalla was never appreciative and continued to be still abusive and violent, his demands grew the more they submitted and obviously they were not happy. What is the point of compromise, if it gets you nothing but encourages your abuser. Instead it is better to fight back, hold on to your dignity and pride, you feel empowered and have no regrets that you did not even try. If you are going to get punished anyways, at the very least one should do something that they want to.

Shaurya and Anokhi both made raita of each other's plan....it is as Shaurya once said "never say never". Interestingly though the couple stood at opposite ends of spectrum in terms of what they were looking in their life partner, they well matched by mata rani in the sense they bought unexpected healing for each other long term. They were also exactly what their partner needed...unconditional love and sense of belonging for one and wings and freedom for another.

My biggest disappointment from the show was all the white washing for all the antagonist in the show. Anokhi not only managed for forgive Bhalla for all the years of abuse and violence not only against her but her mother and sister. She also fought to keep his name as a part of her identity. Astha who is supposedly very principled suddenly was willing to shove Raja's blatant murder attempt under the carpet completely. Shaurya forgave his mother for years of neglect. Suddenly she somehow was a part of his life from afar. And worst of all Tejvi got forgiven despite all their sneaky and ugly tricks.

On a funny note Mata Rani really blessed her and bestowed her with courage....Shaurya.Shaurya means courage .Haan courage mein rage thoda hai par chalega.

Courage to fulfill her dreams in the form of Shaurya.

Originally posted by: deepsea_27

On a funny note Mata Rani really blessed her and bestowed her with courage....Shaurya.Shaurya means courage .Haan courage mein rage thoda hai par chalega.

Courage to fulfill her dreams in the form of Shaurya.

This is an awesome point. I never thought of that. He needed an unique perspective which he got in the form of Anokhi and she needed that bravery he provided!! Love it!!

Originally posted by: pj10

I agree with you on Anokhi- this episodes truly does set stage for who she is and why she is so stubborn unwilling to find a middle ground and see strategic withdrawal as compromise. She has seen her mother and Babli submit, try to find middle ground to appease Mr Bhalla's wishes at their own cost all her life. But it bought them nothing, Mr Bhalla was never appreciative and continued to be still abusive and violent, his demands grew the more they submitted and obviously they were not happy. What is the point of compromise, if it gets you nothing but encourages your abuser. Instead it is better to fight back, hold on to your dignity and pride, you feel empowered and have no regrets that you did not even try. If you are going to get punished anyways, at the very least one should do something that they want to.

Shaurya and Anokhi both made raita of each other's plan....it is as Shaurya once said "never say never". Interestingly though the couple stood at opposite ends of spectrum in terms of what they were looking in their life partner, they well matched by mata rani in the sense they bought unexpected healing for each other long term. They were also exactly what their partner needed...unconditional love and sense of belonging for one and wings and freedom for another.

My biggest disappointment from the show was all the white washing for all the antagonist in the show. Anokhi not only managed for forgive Bhalla for all the years of abuse and violence not only against her but her mother and sister. She also fought to keep his name as a part of her identity. Astha who is supposedly very principled suddenly was willing to shove Raja's blatant murder attempt under the carpet completely. Shaurya forgave his mother for years of neglect. Suddenly she somehow was a part of his life from afar. And worst of all Tejvi got forgiven despite all their sneaky and ugly tricks.

Season 2 needs to revamp the Bhallas/Raja/Anokhi/Babli/Shaurya equation. Aastha needs to hold Raja responsible. Letting Raja's murder attempt go, letting Anmol's molestation go, and letting Alok's harassment go didn't help anyone.

Season 2 should also delve into Shastha backstory so that we can understand everyone's reasoning. And then show conflict between Shaurya and Aastha.

As for Tejvi, I don't want a redemption for them. I'd rather they just stay antagonists!

I don't think she fought to keep the Bhalla due to her father. It's because she's been Anokhi Bhalla all her life and didn't want to change the name as if it was a transfer off property from father to husband.

Idk I would like a nice revamp if/when they come back with season 2. Maybe explore more of the professor-student dynamic. Those episodes are fun and would love that aspect as well.

Originally posted by: mallukumari

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Was it your first time seeing this episode? These initial episodes are why Papaji's redemption was so unsatisfactory.

Yes I am watching these initial episodes for the first time. Definitely Ramesh Bhallah redemption was a quick affair. The onlyy thing that can be excused is that Anokhi did mention she loves her parents but not their soch. But still it needed at least several episodes (months in terms of story timeline) to make him change his perception about girls. His son going rogue does not negate or justify his accepting his daughters and their independence. It was too sudden. But then the makers did not have any choice also.

Originally posted by: mallukumari

Season 2 needs to revamp the Bhallas/Raja/Anokhi/Babli/Shaurya equation. Aastha needs to hold Raja responsible. Letting Raja's murder attempt go, letting Anmol's molestation go, and letting Alok's harassment go didn't help anyone.

Season 2 should also delve into Shastha backstory so that we can understand everyone's reasoning. And then show conflict between Shaurya and Aastha.

As for Tejvi, I don't want a redemption for them. I'd rather they just stay antagonists!

I don't think she fought to keep the Bhalla due to her father. It's because she's been Anokhi Bhalla all her life and didn't want to change the name as if it was a transfer off property from father to husband.

@Bold

Exactly.Such sudden transfornstion of years old patriarchy brushed off in a episode or two.Bhalla changing,Aastha Shaurya reconcilation,Shaan Shaurya conversation,Shaan Aastha patchup.

Season 2 has so many topics to deal with.