Episode Spoiler - 12 July 2021 - Page 16

Originally posted by: inlieu

I agree, and who says happy ending means Raghav and Pallavi end up together. She might actually be happier with Mandaar, so that's her happy ending, while Raghav might be better off letting her go if she's unable to accept him.

But that’s not really going to happen because the show loses it’s basis of a widow finding love and moving on in life.

I simply want Raghav to figure out how he feels for her and then tell her exactly what he feels for her and fight for her and with her and then them being happy with each other. Because Mandar might never be able to understand Pallavi the way Raghav does and vice versa too and I say this because they are very alike some fundamental pain they both share the grief of losing a parent and not having a family and not being trusted by loved ones so jitni acche se they both can understand each other woh dusre nhi kr skte.

The moment they start having truthful conversations with each other poori problems saath mein solve krlenge and they will have a beautiful relationship kyunki ek doosre ko subconsciously pyaar toh dono karte hain bas introspect nhi kr rahe un feelings pe and accept nhi kar rahe.

Originally posted by: inlieu

Yeah in many ways a reset is what would help.

They needs time and space and then build from scratch if they want to. I would hate it if she chose Raghav only because Mandar turned out to be evil.

Why should pallavi choose either raghav or mandaar. If SHE feels that no one is worth it, she might as well stay single.. did she not say that she is an independent woman who didnt want marriage?so be it..

Originally posted by: Jiarao

@RED No. I did't think his guilt was over. The reconciliation was just a band aid which held him from falling apart immediately. I think somewhere instead of healing him the reconciliation has just increased his guilt and made him more aware of his family's sufferings. But hearing him say it just made it more real. I don't know what Sai did there but I was at once hit by all these overwhelmimg feelings of guilt , anger , frustration and so much more.

@BOLD This is so true. I wish they address this. No one knows what RR went through all these years except Farhad. But he isn't being utilised in the show the way he should have been . There could have been scenes of Amma or Pallavi asking him about Raghav and their years together. I hope the show runs long enough for Krishna Rao to appear.

@BLUE; It's only few of us who want this to happen. majority of audience feels this is a love story where Pallavi must be treated like a queen. most of them couldn't even digest him ignoring her for few minutes.😆 I don't think she could be made a mute spectator in the revenge saga.

After seeing the much awaited Ved track get drown in RR's tears I am not much sure about the fireworks though. Lekin sapne dekhne mein kya jaata hai😆. Apne mind mein hum khud apna alag sa movie bana sakte hain na..😆

This is not a typical love story, but a story about love and all sorts of other emotions. At least, that has been my impression since the beginning. Things will not be fair, things will not be balanced, it will always tip one way or the other.

I agree with what you said about this being a bandaid, which is why it's bound to cause more pain until it's addressed. I keep saying they all need therapy because each of them is too broken to help the other heal.

As for what Sai did, I think it was the simplicity with which he said it, just a few words that created that imagery of burden of guilt and then the look in his eyes like he was trying so hard to control himself. Yes, I also want to see more of Farhad filling in the gaps for what happened all those years. Why don't the CVs use him more. The scene where he cuts his foot and Farhad tends to him is forever etched in my memory, with Raghav's grief pouring out.

You remember when he almost collapsed when Amma told him she didn't hold him responsible anymore? Almost as if he lost his balance once some of the weight was lifted. Well, there is still a lot of the weight on his shoulders and mind, and while I understand why he sees Pallavi as some sort of lifeboat, I don't think he is emotionally or psychologically in a position to have a full-fledged marriage with her. It will take time because this guilt and this trauma isn't going away. I see now why he feels undeserving of her love and he's digging a deeper hole for himself by the day.

@green don't even get me started. Anyway, I want to see Don Amma to in the KR track be actively involved in encouraging and supporting Raghav to take revenge for everything they lost and I am still going to keep hoping that they show it. I have been waiting for it since ages! I don't want Pallavi getting involved in that or leading that, please, just like I don't want Raghav to be too involved in the fight that will happen between Pallavi and the Ds when Mandaar returns. They should let their spouses lead but only provide support.

Originally posted by: Lonelythots

Why should pallavi choose either raghav or mandaar. If SHE feels that no one is worth it, she might as well stay single.. did she not say that she is an independent woman who didnt want marriage?so be it..

that's why I said if they want to.

also please read the earlier posts that led to this response 😉

I said she'd be better off staying alone than with a husband who's not worth it.

Originally posted by: BlueJayFire

Where did Ved even go?

He is trying to die in chullu bhar pani after verbal bashing from Pallavi. 🤣

Originally posted by: inlieu

that's why I said if they want to.

Not possible it is ITV. If they show that kind of ending entire FD will riot. I am thinking what if the ending is Raghav dies at the end trying to take revenge KR. Pallavi after his death takes his position as head of the Rao's and she is pregnant with his child.

Originally posted by: Medha0609

But that’s not really going to happen because the show loses it’s basis of a widow finding love and moving on in life.

I simply want Raghav to figure out how he feels for her and then tell her exactly what he feels for her and fight for her and with her and then them being happy with each other. Because Mandar might never be able to understand Pallavi the way Raghav does and vice versa too and I say this because they are very alike some fundamental pain they both share the grief of losing a parent and not having a family and not being trusted by loved ones so jitni acche se they both can understand each other woh dusre nhi kr skte.

The moment they start having truthful conversations with each other poori problems saath mein solve krlenge and they will have a beautiful relationship kyunki ek doosre ko subconsciously pyaar toh dono karte hain bas introspect nhi kr rahe un feelings pe and accept nhi kar rahe.

Yeah but with Mandaar returning, it means she was never really a widow right? So the original premise of the show no longer holds.

Mandaar too had his share of problems in that dysfunctional family, just like Raghav had/has problems with his. Would Pallavi want to share Mandaar's pain and understand him?

Also, now that her rose-tinted glasses are coming off what kind of life does she personally want to have? Plus, Raghav isn't going to have time to figure things out, the rate at which things are going. He hasn't had a breather.

Raghav and she might have feelings for each other but that's not enough to sustain a relationship. They are mentally poles apart and still have too much baggage. They will have to work through it and get to understand one another better, but for that to happen they have to fully accept each other for who they are, which is easier said that done. They will wrong each other from time to time, at least that's my hope, otherwise I'm not interested in watching a story where Pallavi is mistreated over and over and becomes a victim to various evil plots or abuse. I want to see situations where she also makes mistakes but learns from them and Raghav also learns to accept them like she accepts his. Life is never going to be perfect.

Originally posted by: meghumonu

Not possible it is ITV. If they show that kind of ending entire FD will riot. I am thinking what if the ending is Raghav dies at the end trying to take revenge KR. Pallavi after his death takes his position as head of the Rao's and she is pregnant with his child.

I actually think the best ending would be for Raghav to die at the end after successfully taking revenge but then I can't see them do that to Amma again. It would be too much for a mother even though in the 70s movies that's what used to happen often. 😭

Originally posted by: inlieu

Well, he told her at the train station that he'd make her/her happiness his first priority, right? He hasn't stopped trying since then. Right now though, he has two conflicting priorities that he can't choose between without some collateral damage. So he's going with what he thinks is the lesser of two evils.

I just think they aren't on the same page as a couple, which is understandable since they are still getting to know each other. The fact that she has to ask him if he doesn't care about her feelings already shows that she doesn't see the side of him that we see, the emotional suffering he's been through since he found out about Mandaar. When he said main har cheez bolta nahin it wasn't just about love or romance, it was also about how he views her and this relationship. He knows and understands her need to punish the culprit, which is why he offers himself up, otherwise he would have shut everything down and not let her punish anyone.

Raghav could have tried to explain his perspective and it's something he's going to learn the hard way, but I think he feels she doesn't understand him or isn't in the right headspace to understand. I think he's further ahead in the relationship spiritually, so none of what she's said or done so far is a surprise. He anticipated all this, which is why he had that breakdown outside the D-house. Why me? How am I going to handle all this? If he'd had to be ruthless about all this without caring for her feelings, he wouldn't be tormented. He never once claimed to be doing the morally right thing, rather he's focused on doing what he thinks is right for his family.

No, I am not bashing Pallavi or Raghav. They are both right in their own way. I'm just saying that as an audience we see a lot more of the 360 than they do, which is why their reactions aren't always 'as people would expect'. A little knowledge is a dangerous thing couldn't be truer than what we're seeing here.

I can't believe I'm saying this but short of Mandaar actually being alive, I'm not sure I see a way forward.

Ok.. this is no way a raghav defensive post.. i still maintain that pallavi is better off without raghav.. just that i find raghav’s character interesting and layered to watch even when i find his actions despicable..

Re. Priority.. i think raghav has always prioritized pallavi over him since he said so.. may be not his family.. but over him for sure..

raghav prioritised pallavi over his self respect when he went down on his knees in front of her father..

even now raghav prioritised pallavi’s need or demand for closure by offering himself putting his name and reputation on the line.. pallavi said he was doing this for keerthi.. but the fact is that he is doing it for pallavi.. based on my understanding of raghav’s character , he wouldnt have done it for any outsider.. he will use his influence , power and money to close the case unscathed like he did two years ago.. erased everything silently!!!

Originally posted by: Lonelythots

Ok.. this is no way a raghav defensive post.. i still maintain that pallavi is better off without raghav.. just that i find raghav’s character interesting and layered to watch even when i find his actions despicable..

Re. Priority.. i think raghav has always prioritized pallavi over him since he said so.. may be not his family.. but over him for sure..

raghav prioritised pallavi over his self respect when he went down on his knees in front of her father..

even now raghav prioritised pallavi’s need or demand for closure by offering himself putting his name and reputation on the line.. pallavi said he was doing this for keerthi.. but the fact is that he is doing it for pallavi.. based on my understanding of raghav’s character , he wouldnt have done it for any outsider.. he will use his influence , power and money to close the case unscathed like he did two years ago.. erased everything silently!!!

@bold It isn't but even if it were, so what? All opinions are interesting to read. I love it! 😉

I also find Raghav's character interesting because of the various shades, and that's why people are loving the show because there's so much to see and infer as a result. The character is successful because people relate to him whether or not they agree with him.

I also think that people forget he's an anti-hero, not a hero like we typically see in ITV. He has always openly acknowledged that he was badtameez, ghamandi, etc. but never apologized for being this way. So when he does all these things that shift from the moral center we'd expect to see in other MLs, I personally don't see anything wrong with it as long as it stays to true to his character. Him being all goody two shoes wouldn't work for me at this stage.

@green, yehi to main kab se keh rahi hoon, but I'm tired of explaining so I give up.

Also, analyzing Raghav's actions and understanding them doesn't mean I/we approve of them. Two completely different things. 😕