PS|EDT #35|The Curious Case of Shiva's Adbhut Plan and Missing Rishita - Page 17

Originally posted by: Transference

The women in Shiva’s life!

His world usually stopped at Dhara, but today, in the frame of 3 people, Shiva and Raavi have created a world of their own! ❤️

No matter how angsty, unacceptable and excruciatingly painful the situation, Dhara could stop him with her touch and eyes. Today, it ain't happening as Shiva and Raavi universe has gone beyond Dhara.

Beautiful post❤️

I read your post of Dhara getting hidden in the background and now the Shiva we are seeing is Raavi's Shiva. This scene perfectly sums that up I guess. Here both are looking at each other even after Dhara comes. That is progression.

The eyes depict the angst, intensity and his helplessness.💔

@bold that is a progression we saw today right.❤️

Originally posted by: ItsmePriya

Mami is going to be a constant hurdle in Shivi's life.

Like you said maybe giving the kangans may help Raavi see Shiva as a person who took the initiative to bridge the gap between him and Mami.

@BOLD That would make Raavi mellow down a lot. ❤️

But right now I see his zidd taking over him fully. But he knows he has wronged Raavi. The introspection in the tree gives it away. But him giving new kangans might be the immediate resolve he would take.

This will be only for Raavi but right now I dont know if Raavi holds the same priority as his mother

Omg...this is so heartbreaking for both of them😭

But he messed up big time and he knows it. He has to do something as big to try and fix it. Who knows what'll happen.

Originally posted by: Transference

First of all, Bhavna, I am totally against any form of manhandling/womanhandling in real life. I am against violence in any form-verbal, emotional or physical.

Coming to your points which I believe are valid. Both Shiva and Raavi need to stop hurling abuses, verbal or physical, at each other.

Shiva did it more clearly and did it absolutely without any rhyme or reason before marriage too.

We have seen multiple instances where Raavi disrespected him too and tried to hit him with a stick.

They both share a problematic relationship and Shiva is at fault here. Grave mistakes made. He has to apologize and realise her worth as well as give her the respect she deserves! There are no two thoughts about it.

Let's talk a bit about real life. People do make grave mistakes and learn in real life. That's called journey, catharsis and progress.

Shiva isn't a Saint or a hero and has been constantly reprimanded for his abusive behaviour by everyone. Not even a single person supports him, including the ones whom he loves. Isn't that proof enough that no one likes his behaviour.

No matter how much we deny:

Is Raavi important to him? Yes

Does Raavi Deserve a man like Shiva? No

Does Shiva deserve to be called a good husband after today? No

Does Raavi need to walk out? Yes and she clearly did today!

That's all I wanted to say.

Piu, humans have this characteristic that the way you'll behave with me, I'll behave with you the same way. Which girl would be polite to a guy who is rude to her and mistreats her? So I can understand Raavi's behavior towards Shiva, but not Shiva's behavior towards Raavi.

You know why most of the time I do not comment on your analysis, it's because that your words show just one side of the picture. And pictures say a thousand different words, many different stories. And people are interested in one particular side which always ends up being in favor of Shiva one way or the other. And I have different views, sometimes it's just me who feels that way.

This journey, this change, this progression, we know this will happen, we know they will have a happy life because that's a fixed point in this story. It won't change. We know how this will end. But what if we didn't?

Will you still be able to be supportive towards a man who behaves like Shiva? This is ITV, no matter what will happen, Shiva and Raavi will be together and happy and in love in the future. We all know that. I wonder about what if we didn't.

No matter how much you all believe in this:

Is Raavi important to him? No. If she was she wouldn't be his bargaining chip.

Other than this, I agree with you on your other statement.

Since we are talking about abuse here, let's also address the emotional day to day abuse of Dev by Rishita.

We often laugh at men’s trauma, making it seem comical but right from the moment Rishita had entered Dev’s life as a partner, she has time and again made attempts to demean people and abuse Dev emotionally and Dev also, on the other hand, systematically abuses her with his patriarchal approach that women need to cook food.

There's a whole level of functional abuse in the PS family that exists.

Originally posted by: Miss_SR

@Bold She defo doesn't. They've only been married for like 2wks, that too one that they both didn't want.

But he messed up big time and he knows it. He has to do something as big to try and fix it. Who knows what'll happen.

@bold, actually, they've been married for like a month apparently as spoken by one of the characters The CVs sense of time is MIA just like Anita's personality

Originally posted by: Transference

The Difference between Dhara & Suman

No matter how obnoxious are Suman’s patriarchal ways and thoughts but one thing Suman does very well is ripping the band-aid off and letting it bleed. Percolating the toxins out of wounds accelerates healing while Dhara always tries to calm and volcano by throwing water on it. Result: steam and more pressure!

In short, Dhara’s approach is never addressing any real issue but tackling the problem by only focussing on moving on! Today, Suman didn't say a word between Shiva and Raavi while they left for fighting! Dhara, on the other hand, reprimanded them for their Bachmann. A true mother doesn't tether children but lets them grow.

I wouldn't say I like her thoughts, but I sometimes feel she speaks better.

This is too good.👏

Starting with the monologue of Suman...she clearly expressed how Shiva gets triggered and I guess she was the only one to not point out to Shiva about him being wrong as she knew from where this was coming.

I have always loved the advice she gives to Shivi. They are on point and have she also has made them understand what she wanted to convey.

Her years of experience definitely have an upper hand over Dhara

Originally posted by: Miss_SR

We might have to swallow our self respect and pride with Shiva on this one if it happens. But is it more important than Raavi? No. She needs something from Shiva, something to show he's willing to do his part for her, something that'll shock her. And maybe this is it.

Mami won't change and we know that.

Also we need to remember that this might not even happen 😆. Imagine the makers to something completely opposite lool.

According to me, shiva's and raavi's self respect are equally important. I do not want Raavi to go back to Shiva without an apology and regret from his side, because he hurt her self respect. In the same way I don't want Shiva to do anything for maami because she's the ITV vamp who will never apologize or regret anything 😆

Which is why I want the makers to take a different approach here, but I know they'll just take the easy way out.. the new BTS shows some new Kangans on maami's wrist so I guess this is what happened 🤢😆

Originally posted by: maanmeet1

maine link click kiya to Anita thi....KD nahi

Prank play kiya usne 😆

Originally posted by: Transference

To answer your question, in real life, I would prefer a man like Shiva, minus his anger and physical aggression. Of course his bargaining. I love some of his qualities and HATE a lot of things

See, you have your conditions. And that's why I am questioning everybody being supportive of him and finding him in pain and all. Nope. I see no pain, I see no hurt. I see the anger that is bound to destroy relationships if not controlled in time.

Originally posted by: bhavna101

The way I see Shiva's character. He is not flawed, he kind of disgusts me. I am only here for Raavi, and just in case he changes his attitude towards Raavi. This is the reason I stopped watching so many ITV shows. It's ridiculous how they portray men and women to be!

@bold - I think that explains most of the things.

I mean just imagine, if you find such a man in real life. Will that man still have this much support?

It's a tv show and we know that progress will happen, we are 100% sure that they will have a happy married life but if we didn't know about this then what would our reactions be like?

Itv does portray certain unrealistic things, if we think about it shivi marrying like that is also very illogical.

In real life, raavi would have realised sooner or later that Dev does not love her and this wouldn't have happened.we don't see forced marriages like itv In real life, which seems to be the USP of almost all shows nowadays.

I feel for shiva as much as I feel for raavi.

as much as we expect him to care for raavi, respect her he can't do that yet. They are not there yet. He is slowly getting there, and the progression is clearly visible.it will take its own time.

He is wrong, he will regret and apologize.he will do something to make it upto her.it will be interesting to watch how he does it.

It's wrong to expect raavi to stand up for shiva at this point, it is equally wrong to expect shiva to put raavi above everything else at this point.they are not the most important persons for each other now.