Episode Spoiler - 22 June 2021 - Page 13

Originally posted by: Diya2021

yeah we know Raghav doesn’t shun from apologies. And you are right, both are learning. Like Pallavi said she learns and applies it maybe more quicker than him 😄 I guess I was more disappointed altogether with the Raghav I have in mind. He freaked me with his burst on Pallavi and if altogether it’s not a plan as well which sadly I feel is not, I’m going to be disappointed with the Raghav Rao I admire. He has always been so ruthless and calculative in all his moves and I don’t want him to be taken on this emotional run for a sister who isn’t worthy of his love.

I fully get what you're saying. I'm not disappointed or surprised as such, because aise slip ups, I was expecting. They're in a supremely confusing stage in their relationship.

Agar plan nahi bhi hai, I don't think Raghav's always been smart with respect to Kirti and Jaya, so it's honestly not seeming out of character to me. I understand what everyone is saying with complaints about his stupidity, I myself have heavily criticized his approach to SunKi so far, but again, it's exactly what I'd expected. My first boss, there's this thing she used to say which I've never forgotten- when in crisis, respond, don't react. When it comes to family, Raghav reacts.

My only suggestion would be, dil abhi se chhota mat karo, in daily soaps like this, let's just see where the track goes. So far, they've delivered solid content, so let's hope something good is lined up here too!

Originally posted by: Diya2021

yeah we know Raghav doesn’t shun from apologies. And you are right, both are learning. Like Pallavi said she learns and applies it maybe more quicker than him 😄 I guess I was more disappointed altogether with the Raghav I have in mind. He freaked me with his burst on Pallavi and if altogether it’s not a plan as well which sadly I feel is not, I’m going to be disappointed with the Raghav Rao I admire. He has always been so ruthless and calculative in all his moves and I don’t want him to be taken on this emotional run for a sister who isn’t worthy of his love.

Regarding worthiness of his love, it's a tricky subject. We don't really get to control or dictate this, especially when it comes to family and even more where blood relations are concerned. We saw Pallavi go nuts for the Deshmukhs even though we felt they didn't deserve her. Were they related to her by blood, I doubt she could have broken things off completely even when she saw through their flaws.

Raghav even more so is not built to put aside his emotions for his family. He can never do so. Pallavi is not an outsider but she's not completely in his inner circle. The way she will be, he won't look back. For that to happen, he has to start understanding that someone who isn't related to you by blood can be as dear if not more.

We know there was a woman in the past who made him suffer. They didn't bring this up, but I feel that there is a lot more about Raghav that Pallavi and we don't know. What he told her about Krishna Rao was in response to her question about what happened between Amma and him, but I feel there are many more skeletons in the closet.

Originally posted by: BlueJayFire

I was expecting one day its going to come - this is my parivaar, you stay away from it. But didn't expect it to come this soon. Well, don't we all do or say things in real life too, even though we don't mean it? I am giving my own benefit of doubt that Raghav has a sharp tongue and it just came across.

I'd say better now than later, nahi? As insensitive and cold as his comment seemed, the further they'd have been in this marriage, the harder it would have been to hear, both for Pallavi and for us. Sharp tongue toh hai, but aise gusse mein wohi baat zubaan pe aati ho jo mann mein ho.

Originally posted by: MistyDawn

Yesterday I was like if he has any doubts about Keerthi Sunny relationship not working out in the long run, then why is he even agreeing to it before doing a thorough bg check? But now, when I think about it I actually like his approach in the whole matter except for the words he threw at Pallavi about staying out of his family matters. That was extremely stupid of him if that was not an act. I don't know why I am so inclined to believe that this is a joint plan. Anyway, my point is why bother so much if Keerthi couldn't care less about what Raghav feels, thinkw or does for her. He is right.. let her marry the guy she loves if thats what makes her happy.. her happiness is what matters to him right now and that may seem very short sighted but its practical.. If the guy really loves her, they can have a good life. And if he is a fraud or if things don't turn out the way they are hoping they do, then they can help her get a divorce if that's what she wants. I now like how he said " nahi kaam kiya to divorce le lega" The point here is, let Keerthi make the choice, right or wrong, let her bear the consequences. Atleast that way, she won't turn around and blame Raghav or her family for not supporting her.

I also feel that his approach is the most practical one and we know he's going to be watching them both closely for any sign of trouble. He probably has already planned things out in his head how to respond in either scenario and even if he doesn't actively test Sunny the way Pallavi does, he will pick up non-verbal cues and signals as he always does. Once he's on the scent (no pun intended), he'll be able to investigate. I have faith in that.

Also, he has nothing to lose and everything to gain by going with this approach. If indeed Sunny is the right person for Keerti, he will at least be sure that his sister is spending her life with the man she's crazy about and who's crazy about her. 🤢If not, then Keerti has no reason to distrust him because for all intents and purposes, he's being the supportive brother that she wants him to be and has her back. If things fall apart with Sunny without Raghav's involvement, you can bet she'll go crying to Raghav or at least he'll offer her his shoulder to cry on, much like when she was in jail. Raghav realizes that if he pushes too much, he could lose his sister forever as well as whatever chance he has at reconciling with her. She's a lot like him, he knows that, so he has to let her make mistakes and fall, while he provides her an invisible safety net.

Originally posted by: MistyDawn

Yesterday I was like if he has any doubts about Keerthi Sunny relationship not working out in the long run, then why is he even agreeing to it before doing a thorough bg check? But now, when I think about it I actually like his approach in the whole matter except for the words he threw at Pallavi about staying out of his family matters. That was extremely stupid of him if that was not an act. I don't know why I am so inclined to believe that this is a joint plan. Anyway, my point is why bother so much if Keerthi couldn't care less about what Raghav feels, thinkw or does for her. He is right.. let her marry the guy she loves if thats what makes her happy.. her happiness is what matters to him right now and that may seem very short sighted but its practical.. If the guy really loves her, they can have a good life. And if he is a fraud or if things don't turn out the way they are hoping they do, then they can help her get a divorce if that's what she wants. I now like how he said " nahi kaam kiya to divorce le lega" The point here is, let Keerthi make the choice, right or wrong, let her bear the consequences. Atleast that way, she won't turn around and blame Raghav or her family for not supporting her.

I think I'm waiting for Raghav to hit a point of 'kar jo karna hai, sunne waalon mein se toh hai nahi, kud ja aag mein'. Haven't everyone's parents reached that stage of frustration at some point or the other? It's not because they stop loving or wanting to protect their children, it's just that sometimes, logic can't beat out stubbornness.

I think I mentioned this scene once before also, but mujhe phir se Pawani ki yaad aa gayi, who I think delivered one of the best lines on this show, jaate jaate, apne last scene mein. Siddhesh is annoyed at Deshmukh-premi-Pallavi, and she just says, we did what we could. Humne samjha diya, ab usko jab samajhna hoga, samajh legi.

You can't always stop children from getting hurt. What defines a good parent (or brother, here) is, are you there to help them back up? Some mistakes are important to learn and grow in life. Zindagi bhar bubble wrap mein toh nahi rakh sakte na?

But yes, agar yeh uska plan hai, then please tell your wife and apologize for your rudeness today 🙃🙃🙃

Agar dono ka plan hai, toh badhiya hai. Keep at it, we're proud of y'all 🥂

Originally posted by: aye-masakalii

I'd say better now than later, nahi? As insensitive and cold as his comment seemed, the further they'd have been in this marriage, the harder it would have been to hear, both for Pallavi and for us. Sharp tongue toh hai, but aise gusse mein wohi baat zubaan pe aati ho jo mann mein ho.

Yes, exactly. So Pallavi realized it too, because she knows it was in his heart somewhere. To his credit, he realized he shouldn't have said that but didn't completely deny or dwell on it.

It is something for both of them to work on. Previously, I was saying he needed to giver her space but now I think she needs to give him space and time to acknowledge the areas of improvement and work on them till he gets to where she is right now. She has accepted him, the marriage, and the family completely. She said she wasn't going anywhere, but have you actually heard Raghav say the same about this marriage? He's still unsure about the entire thing, he knows he doesn't want her to leave but at the same time he doesn't know what he wants out of the marriage.

I know we keep saying he was born to be a husband, and he is, but just like we see with other roles, in this role too there are many layers to be explored and paths to travel. He will have to learn and make a conscious decision to treat her as his confidante, friend, companion, and then lover.

Someone had said on the forum (don't remember who), that right now he's more interested in being a husband than a lover and we can see this again with such slip ups. I feel that when he went to ask Pallavi for help it wasn't 100% with the intent of getting her involved as a family member, rather it was about asking for her advice and ideas. Let's see.

Regarding his sharp tongue, that's another problem he needs to sort out. People who love him can overlook it because they know his intentions, but this is how lines are often crossed and some words cause irreparable damage. Pallavi isn't going to feel secure in this marriage if he makes her feel he hasn't fully accepted her. That's probably why the return of Mandaar is going to create these dilemmas for her. On what basis should she choose a happily ever after with her second husband, who doesn't seem to be on the same wavelength as her when it comes to their marriage? Is she not better off with Mandaar, with whom she had dreamt of a future at one point, and has an anchor of sorts? Granted, we know he's going to be a shady character but she doesn't.

Kuch nahi tho today’s episode helped me realise how much I’m invested in this show, damn 😂

Originally posted by: inlieu

I also feel that his approach is the most practical one and we know he's going to be watching them both closely for any sign of trouble. He probably has already planned things out in his head how to respond in either scenario and even if he doesn't actively test Sunny the way Pallavi is, he will pick up non-verbal cues and signals as he always does. Once he's on the scent (no pun intended), he'll be able to investigate. I have faith in that.

Also, he has nothing to lose and everything to gain by going with this approach. If indeed Sunny is the right person for Keerti, he will at least be sure that his sister is spending her life with the man she's crazy about and who's crazy about her 🤢. If not, then Keerti has no reason to distrust him because for all intents and purposes, he's being the supportive brother that she wants him to be and has her back. If things fall apart with Sunny without Raghav's involvement, you can bet she'll go crying to Raghav or at least he'll offer her his shoulder to cry on, much like when she was in jail. Raghav realizes that if he pushes to much, he could lose his sister forever as well as whatever chance he has at reconciling with her. She's a lot like him, he knows that, so he has to let her make mistakes and fall, while he provides her an invisible safety net.

Agree.. Keerthi's attitude towards Raghav is what pushed me to support Raghav's approach in the matter.. and somewhere deep down he too realizes that Keerthi's love for him is totally conditional..that she doesn't really care much about him..tomorrow if Sunny and Raghav are at loggerheads about any issue, Keerthi won't take a second to kick his ass and stand by Sunny. So when Keerthi is being so selfish and opportunist, she has always been..then why lose your sleep over trying to make her see things she doesn't want to? She is a grown up sensible independent woman managing on her own.. Saying things like " I won't support you unless I find the guy to be right for you" is not the way.. She has not given that place or the right to decide for her to anyone, least of all to Raghav and Pallavi.. so let her make her choices and let her bear the consequences of her actions. But I know none of that is going to happen because what was a possibility is now a truth - that Sunny is a scum so they will have to take matters in their hands and try and expose him before they go through the engagement..all that's good from drama pov, but in practical life I say let do what she wants.. saal me ek baar rakhi bandh aur baddua na de..itna bohot hai..

Originally posted by: aye-masakalii

I'd love for this to be their plan. If it's not something they're in on together, then whether he's truly fallen for this BS or it's his akele ka plan, either way, unfair to make his wife's emotions collateral damage in the process.

I feel Pallavi purposely is trying to be the bad person, so that Keerthi can trust Raghav. Keerthi will look at Pallavi as her sole enemy and feed Sunny with pieces of information that Pallavi wants her to pass. I feel this is the dynamic that the Raghavi are playing. Sunny will expose himself in situations.

I am expecting a scene where Farhad-Sunny interaction happens and Keerthi see how Sunny will treat Farhad, as a servant. When in real life, he is more than family to her.

Think these two bought time now to show various scenarios and show Keerthi the mirror of who Sunny is..

Well, thats me thinking logically.

Originally posted by: aye-masakalii

I think I'm waiting for Raghav to hit a point of 'kar jo karna hai, sunne waalon mein se toh hai nahi, kud ja aag mein'. Haven't everyone's parents reached that stage of frustration at some point or the other? It's not because they stop loving or wanting to protect their children, it's just that sometimes, logic can't beat out stubbornness.

I think I mentioned this scene once before also, but mujhe phir se Pawani ki yaad aa gayi, who I think delivered one of the best lines on this show, jaate jaate, apne last scene mein. Siddhesh is annoyed at Deshmukh-premi-Pallavi, and she just says, we did what we could. Humne samjha diya, ab usko jab samajhna hoga, samajh legi.

You can't always stop children from getting hurt. What defines a good parent (or brother, here) is, are you there to help them back up? Some mistakes are important to learn and grow in life. Zindagi bhar bubble wrap mein toh nahi rakh sakte na?

But yes, agar yeh uska plan hai, then please tell your wife and apologize for your rudeness today 🙃🙃🙃

Agar dono ka plan hai, toh badhiya hai. Keep at it, we're proud of y'all 🥂

I don't want him to apologize now because it won't be heartfelt, as in he will be apologizing for being blunt but that's not the problem here, is it? Should he apologize for what he feels? No. Is he being insensitive? Possibly, but then again he can't control his feelings in this matter. I would prefer that he assess things himself and then apologizes to her when he really understands the importance of this topic. He just isn't there mentally or emotionally, so other than acknowledging that his words may have hurt Pallavi, there's not much else he can do. There might come a time when she has issues with the Deshmukhs or other people and doesn't share anything with him, telling him it's her own problem or her family matter, which is when he'll realize how he made her feel today.