Whatever happens in Ghum is reality - Page 3

Originally posted by: Fruitcustard_9

I don't know how many remember it but when sai was spying d confidential meeting of virat & KJ with other police officers in GC after getting caught by virat when he said sai will be arrested KJ requested virat not to do so . I know sai mistake is no where near Cgang crime but still every person has a soft spot for his family .

Baadi baadi baatein karne mein or usse sach karke dekhne farak hota , if anyhow KJ had negative traits can sai send him to jail ? Do sai Joshi have guts to send KJ jail ? I have a doubt on this , Virat is no exception

If I m right police officer don't get d cases of their own families coz of biasness angle.

Agreed, but Sai or for the matter Aaba doing that doesn't makes it right. And I understand him not arresting them, but it would have been more convincable if he didn't acted so sweet with them after just 2(?) days! He also doesn't know whole truth, all he knows is rishwat. So I do understand it, but even if he knew whole truth, would he have arrested them? Probably not. In earlier reply I pointed out how Virat used to say 'Jazbaat se upar farz hota hai' so what about that? Oke maan liya, he wouldn't have arrested them as it's difficult for him. Would he have stopped idiolizing them and maybe cut off ties with them? That's something more likely to happen in real life too. If something like that would have happened in my family, I wouldn't have had the guts to involve police, but I do have that enough of morals to atleast do that. So why was he first being usoolon ki moorti to only abolish it? I was disgusted the way he was back to normal after Sai coming back to CN, itni jaldi sab kuj kaise bhool gaya Veeru?

Originally posted by: nethraa_99

When Omi got caught, everyone was mad at Virat for not arresting him. But I knew (and accepted) that Virat would not arrest him - not even the righteous ACP of GC. With his upbringing and family involved in a crime is not something I expected Virat to handle well. Even now, I'm not really expecting him to put his family behind bars. He won't. He can't. And it is a truth that this happens in many homes - where the righteous fail to protect the innocent and let the guilty get away with their sins.

What I cannot digest is the brushing of the whole thing under the carpet. Whatever his flaws, Virat is intelligent. He realised how his family manipulated him into ousting ousting Sai for their own agenda. But what his reaction? He was mad at them for two days - now he is back to his normal self with them. No sense of betrayal or hurt - after all, he did believe that the elders cared about him. Virat may be weak, but he still has feelings.

Apart from his toxic upbringing, another reason Virat is very tolerant towards his elders' excesses against Sai & Ashwini (although unacceptable) is because he genuinely believes them to be good at heart. Any man of Virat's sensibilities & values will never respect the wrong people. Even now, I am not expecting him to put his family behind bars. But I want to see his emotions - his disillusionment, resentment, anger , emotionally removing himself away from his family, maybe even moving out of CN. But everything will be forgotten. Within two episode he will be like "Kabhi khushi kabhi gam". Even when it was evident that Devyani's mental condition was because of her past, his response was "let bygones be bygones".

I cannot connect with Virat's reactions at all. I do not understand what the writers are trying to project?

Agree completely! Only thing I would like to add, it doens't make Virat a bad person per se. I know many won't agree, but all he knows about is rishwat (I'm ignoring his useless investigation and how he doesn't see the truth) and how many of you would have arrested Omi been in Virat's place? He even let that eveteasing guy free on Valentines day to not spoil his future. Somewhere it does make sense (keeping Virat's ignorance aside). What I didn't like is like you said, despite realising what they did with Sai, he was back to idolizing Kaku after 1-2 days, I was really disgusted. How wasn't he disgusted about CNgang despite realising all that? Only if whole truth was out and he hadn't arrested them, that would have been next level out of character for Virat (not talking about real life, as in real life most people would still not arrest which I do understand although morally uncorrect). And yes, how can he ignore Devi Tais condition like that. How didn't he call them out for their actions? Didn't he see how bad an impact it has left on Devi Tai?? And Sai, our always righteous Sai, decided to unite these two 🤦‍♂️.

Originally posted by: KJSairat

Agreed, but Sai or for the matter Aaba doing that doesn't makes it right. And I understand him not arresting them, but it would have been more convincable if he didn't acted so sweet with them after just 2(?) days! He also doesn't know whole truth, all he knows is rishwat. So I do understand it, but even if he knew whole truth, would he have arrested them? Probably not. In earlier reply I pointed out how Virat used to say 'Jazbaat se upar farz hota hai' so what about that? Oke maan liya, he wouldn't have arrested them as it's difficult for him. Would he have stopped idiolizing them and maybe cut off ties with them? That's something more likely to happen in real life too. If something like that would have happened in my family, I wouldn't have had the guts to involve police, but I do have that enough of morals to atleast do that. So why was he first being usoolon ki moorti to only abolish it? I was disgusted the way he was back to normal after Sai coming back to CN, itni jaldi sab kuj kaise bhool gaya Veeru?

Usoolon ki murti to koi nhi hoti coz people change it with their convenience , not only on tv but in real life 2 .

even sai Joshi keep ranting mere aaba ne mujhe kabhi jhoot bolna nhi sikhaya I definitely know kitna sach bolti hai , even she had hided a crime thou she was fully aware it's it should not be hided but still went into hiding , virat pe zabardasti ka ehsaan & she was d one uniting devi & BK despite knowing what Kaku did.

Kehne or karne mein farak hota hai ye cheez sairat pe apply hota. Kissi ki baat ko pathar ki lakeer maan lena ye apki galti hai us insaan ki nhi.

I gave example of KJ as even he said in d promo farz ke aage kuch nhi hota then why he stopped virat arresting sai , sairat wedding promo . Spying confidential meeting of police force is not a small thing .

Farz wali teaching is given by KJ.

Originally posted by: NoraSM

I don't know what to say 😵 and none takes any action?

Jab karne wale wahi log hai to koi kyu bolega , I guess if they do they r boycotted by d village .

What a coincidence! I just edited my response - to find you had pointed the exact same thing I added!

I agree with you completely. Doesn't make Virat a bad person at all. We are all assuming what we will do under the circumstances- fully aware that our families will never act in such a way! With such a toxic upbringing, it is not surprising that he will not take a drastic action like putting them behind bars.I'm only very uncomfortable with the brushing the whole thing under the carpet.

Originally posted by: Fruitcustard_9

Usoolon ki murti to koi nhi hoti coz people change it with their convenience , not only on tv but in real life 2 .

even sai Joshi keep ranting mere aaba ne mujhe kabhi jhoot bolna nhi sikhaya I definitely know kitna sach bolti hai , even she had hided a crime thou she was fully aware it's it should not be hided but still went into hiding , virat pe zabardasti ka ehsaan & she was d one uniting devi & BK despite knowing what Kaku did.

Kehne or karne mein farak hota hai ye cheez sairat pe apply hota. Kissi ki baat ko pathar ki lakeer maan lena ye apki galti hai us insaan ki nhi.

I gave example of KJ as even he said in d promo farz ke aage kuch nhi hota then why he stopped virat arresting sai , sairat wedding promo . Spying confidential meeting of police force is not a small thing .

Indeed, thats what I also said Sai and Aaba doing the same stuff doesn't makes it right. In real life asoolon ki murti nahi hoti agreed, but TV par hoti hai. That's the way Virat was presented. Aaba was also presented like that, but less extreme. See in Aaba's case nobody was hurt, but here in all this Devi Tai fiasco, people were hurt and scarred, maybe for a lifetime. And Aaba may have broken that asoolon ki moorti, but it was presented more conveniently, I was as an audience more able to connect to it than Vieat breaking his asools. And Sai, I have pointed out her flaws numerous times, infact my previous post I said that uniting DeviTai and Kaku was so so wrong and I was extremely pissed off. Hiding that crime, she promised Pulkit and I think for her breaking a promise is worse than hiding the truth (as far as I understood her character). I try to be nuanced while analysing characters and pointing out their flaws.

An extreme comparison is maybe murdering. Everyone knows murdering is bad, it's immoral and what not. But still as an audience we do support movies such as Simmba, Mom, Drishyam etc in which murdering is justified to some extent. We are able to connect with it. It's a moral that's being broken, but we see everything in context and while we know it's wrong we'll support it. That doesn't mean that breaking that moral is right, it isn't. Murdering remains a crime, no matter what the circumstances. But we are able to justify it more, to connect more to it. The same way I was able to connect more to Aaba breaking his morals than Virat breaking his morals.

I always struggle with this when it comes to Indian TV series, how the normalise hainous crimes and just say let bygones be bygones. I know in real life most people would not arrest their family members but it's the reactions of the characters that gets me. The fact that after two days all is well. Take Sai for example knowing all Kaku did to Devyani and Pulkit why do they potray that if Kaku performs the rituals or attends the birthday party then all is well.

If the aim is to show bad things that happen in society atleast try and show real emotions real reactions so people learn, if you take up such serious topics but handle them poorly then there is no point to the show. They could have explored Devitai's character more....show how she feels about all this, instead all we got was a few tears from Kaku and hugs and all was right with the world again despite her still spewing venom about Pulkit. The drama is all good and the romance we love but I wish these shows would go abit deeper actually explore the emotions, real human emotions and struggles people go through with these things. Virat might not be able to arrest his fam but atleast show that as a "righteous"man he struggles with accepting these things going on in his family and struggles maintaining relationships with people who are like this. But that would be asling too much Kaku will be convinced to attend BD party, hug Harini and everyone will look so pleased like she did such a great thing forgiving her grandchild for being born 🙄 and destroying her family reputation

Yes its so true. It happens all the time in the society. Samaj, izzat ke darr se and most importantly the biased over caste, color, social and financial status results in non acceptance of a love marriage by either or both of the family.

We are a country of living dichotomy.on one hand there is new age india which is a nuclear power, accepting lgbtq community, welcoming feminism and on other hand there is that old hindustan plagued by evil like casteism, female foeticide, ever increasing distance between rich and poor.

Originally posted by: CaNaBa

I always struggle with this when it comes to Indian TV series, how the normalise hainous crimes and just say let bygones be bygones. I know in real life most people would not arrest their family members but it's the reactions of the characters that gets me. The fact that after two days all is well. Take Sai for example knowing all Kaku did to Devyani and Pulkit why do they potray that if Kaku performs the rituals or attends the birthday party then all is well.

If the aim is to show bad things that happen in society atleast try and show real emotions real reactions so people learn, if you take up such serious topics but handle them poorly then there is no point to the show. They could have explored Devitai's character more....show how she feels about all this, instead all we got was a few tears from Kaku and hugs and all was right with the world again despite her still spewing venom about Pulkit. The drama is all good and the romance we love but I wish these shows would go abit deeper actually explore the emotions, real human emotions and struggles people go through with these things. Virat might not be able to arrest his fam but atleast show that as a "righteous"man he struggles with accepting these things going on in his family and struggles maintaining relationships with people who are like this. But that would be asling too much Kaku will be convinced to attend BD party, hug Harini and everyone will look so pleased like she did such a great thing forgiving her grandchild for being born 🙄 and destroying her family reputation

Yes that's a thing which is very irritating. They show all the crap in the name of reality of society but then they dont show anything against it or condemn that behaviour rather they give lecture and show how no matter what elders of the family can get away after doing any crime just because punishing them can result in separation of family.

Originally posted by: nethraa_99

When Omi got caught, everyone was mad at Virat for not arresting him. But I knew (and accepted) that Virat would not arrest him. With his upbringing and family involved in a crime is not something I expected Virat to handle well. Even now, I'm not really expecting him to put his family behind bars. He won't. He can't. And it is a truth that this happens in many homes - where the righteous fail to protect the innocent and let the guilty get away with their sins. We are thankfully not brought up in Virat's family - because we cannot predict how we ourselves would have reacted in these circumstances.

What I cannot digest is the brushing of the whole thing under the carpet. Whatever his flaws, Virat is intelligent. He realised how his family manipulated him into ousting ousting Sai for their own agenda. But what his reaction? He was mad at them for two days - now he is back to his normal self with them. No sense of betrayal or hurt - after all, he did believe that the elders cared about him. Virat may be weak, but he still has feelings.

Apart from his toxic upbringing, another reason Virat is very tolerant towards his elders' excesses against Sai & Ashwini (although unacceptable) is because he genuinely believes them to be good at heart. Any man of Virat's sensibilities & values will never respect the wrong people. Even now, I am not expecting him to put his family behind bars. But I want to see his emotions - his disillusionment, resentment, anger , emotionally removing himself away from his family, maybe even moving out of CN. But everything will be forgotten. Within two episode he will be like "Kabhi khushi kabhi gam". Even when it was evident that Devyani's mental condition was because of her past, his response was "let bygones be bygones".

I cannot connect with Virat's reactions at all. I do not understand what the writers are trying to project?

I am not sure seems there is party that everyone has dresses up for the next day/same day not sure....dont want to comment on future episodes..

His extreme need to punish Sai when she goes wrong and let go the crimes like these just with a disappointment and be back to his normal..Kaka, Kaku..Baba stuff is something I am not able to understand.. He loves his family, he biased when it comes to farz..He loves Sai..he goes extreme. Now we may say he felt cheated and betrayed , because he was insecure and give various other reasons..But are you able to relate with this man at all? What the hell have writers done to this character? I cant relate to it all..