Pandya Store|Episode Discussion Thread #8 - Page 54

Originally posted by: Raingoddess

Another scene I just remembered is the one where Shiva throws veggies at Raavi, Dev protects her and Shiva throws her out. I didn’t like his aggression towards her but when I was watching the scene again, I realized a few things.

After tossing her out, Shiva comes back and starts angrily chopping the onions and then shares an emotional moment with Dhara. Although the dialogues focussed on Dhara getting insulted at the godh barayi, Shiva’s reaction and emotional outburst was not just about that.

Prior to Raavi dropping by, Shiva was angry but not to the point of tears. Raavi’s presence reminded him of his feelings for her. Her association with Maami and her “love” for Dev are two of the biggest reasons why Shiva is so angry and embarrassed about his feelings. He’s not supposed to feel that way about her. Yet he does and it’s a feeling that doesn’t go away. To make it worse, she doesn’t even feel the same. As angry as he is, her actions do affect him. Her love for Dev hurts him. So does the fact that she’s Maami’s “daughter”. In his eyes, a Shiva who loves his family & will do anything to protect them, can’t feel this way about MaamiKiBehenKiBeti. Not to mention, hurting her and pushing her away also affects him.

Maybe I read too much into the scene but there was more than anger in that scene. There was guilt, pain and a need for solace. Usually we don’t see Shiva showing so much emotion but in this scene he does.

I kinda miss the days where a scene could be interpreted in so many ways.

All these scenes made me realize how much injustice the CVs have been giving us post kidnapping scene. Shiva and Raavi's characters have been thrown into a tailspin, and it seems as though they need to have an outside influence, whether it is Suman or Maami, to get back on track to the magic they've had before.

I loved being on the forum those days, reading the Shivobersations penned by Felicie, discussing at length the feelings Shiva might have for Raavi, and that Raavi might have for Shiva. We get hints of those kinds of scenes, like where Shiva tells Raavi that only he can be the one to make her cry. But, the fact that he's missing during every Rishita outburst scene makes the story a little bit more depressing. It's clear that only he and Suman have the guts to deal with Rishita head on which is why the makers are avoiding keeping him in those scenes...

I kind of wish ShiVi just form a truce with each other. All their past mistakes are wiped clean and they start afresh with new expectations. I think in that way, we'll be able to see/enjoy the scenes that could be interpreted in many ways. I mean... we could have Shiva making attempts of being someone Raavi could grow to like (like he could start bathing, etc.) and we could have Raavi attempting to be an emotional pillar/support for Shiva. We could even have a scene where they both declare they will be nothing but friends, and we as an audience can enjoy how they're both lying to themselves and each other...

Originally posted by: Raingoddess

Another scene I just remembered is the one where Shiva throws veggies at Raavi, Dev protects her and Shiva throws her out. I didn’t like his aggression towards her but when I was watching the scene again, I realized a few things.

After tossing her out, Shiva comes back and starts angrily chopping the onions and then shares an emotional moment with Dhara. Although the dialogues focussed on Dhara getting insulted at the godh barayi, Shiva’s reaction and emotional outburst was not just about that.

Prior to Raavi dropping by, Shiva was angry but not to the point of tears. Raavi’s presence reminded him of his feelings for her. Her association with Maami and her “love” for Dev are two of the biggest reasons why Shiva is so angry and embarrassed about his feelings. He’s not supposed to feel that way about her. Yet he does and it’s a feeling that doesn’t go away. To make it worse, she doesn’t even feel the same. As angry as he is, her actions do affect him. Her love for Dev hurts him. So does the fact that she’s Maami’s “daughter”. In his eyes, a Shiva who loves his family & will do anything to protect them, can’t feel this way about MaamiKiBehenKiBeti. Not to mention, hurting her and pushing her away also affects him.

Maybe I read too much into the scene but there was more than anger in that scene. There was guilt, pain and a need for solace. Usually we don’t see Shiva showing so much emotion but in this scene he does.

I kinda miss the days where a scene could be interpreted in so many ways.

That's such an amazing perspective to look at it💜

Originally posted by: Raingoddess

I remember a small scene just after the wedding. It’s when Shiva is shoving Raavi’s things in her suitcase and comes across the gift she bought for Dev. You can tell it hurts him in the moment and he tries to brush it aside. I wish they gave us more of these subtle but unguarded moments of Shiva. I know it’s ITV and the writers made it clear there is no such thing as Raavi and Dev. But for Shiva, he married the girl who used to fawn over his bro day and night. There is no way the slate clears so quickly. As a viewer, I would appreciate small scenes where we feel for the characters and can sense their vulnerability. Fingers crossed that the future holds much more well written tracks.

Eeks

That's one of my most favourite moments of the show. I think those 2 seconds were hefty on anyone who has been in a situation like Shiva. Those two seconds are like floodgates of emotions, feelings. Shiva is left with strange mulling over the fact that he stepped into the shoes of a man that he could never be. As much as Shiva’s life revolved around Raavi, Dev was the centre of her universe. It’s too much for anyone to deal with.

No amount of plastering or Yadon ki Baraat can fix that. That one relationship that could have been his own, is merely a partake left from his brother’s soul.

How painful and ironical! Shivi isn’t what Gaura think they are! There’s too much between them.

Well, Raavi’s interactions with Dev/Shiva is a classic example of Cads Vs Dads.

While Cads ensure a sense of giddiness, sexual enticement, dads give a vision of stability, warmth. Women tend to be attracted to Cads more at the physical level but look for Dads as long term partners. Dev gave the vibe of a secure fairy tale Dad for Raavi and no wonder she chose him.
It would be interesting to see an emotionally distant, physically close Raavi to Shiva. It would be their biggest point of contention and conflict.
We need a scene between Dev and Raavi, with Shiva hiding and listening from a distance. It would be an excellent state of emotional vulnerability and a myriad of moods and details to explore.

Honestly, I am done with Dhara hitting the kids and sobbing for hours. Even Gautam and Dhara need a conflict or some progress. They can't be parents to overgrown kids all their lives.

Originally posted by: Nups_mish

Bang on!! I have been feeling the same since quite some time now. Rishita tries to act all cute and babyish, but God its reached a point beyond annoying for me. Raavi with all her antics even before marriage never lost her charm. Audience still adored her. Alice did a fantastic job there. But yes, Rishita , I feel the actor is having difficulties in portraying these mood swings that her character is having. For a moment she will be all good , next moment she is all nasty but tries to sound cute. I am not sure what she is trying to prove here. I still think she is better than Dev. Dev cannot express anything. Period. Since Akshay is new I will give him time but Mohit was new too, his character and acting have improved by leaps and bounds. I am seeing no change in Dev. Infact Akshay's acting went downhill post marriage. Especially when he shares the screen with Kanwar or Shiny, you can see him struggling. He is still in the music video, modelling phase and still has a lot to learn in terms of acting. Its bad acting coupled with bad dialogues coupled with bad character sketch, everything is playing against DevTa😡

THIS. And the fact that all they do is romance with all that screenspace, no progression whatsoever

Originally posted by: milkcakejamun

All these scenes made me realize how much injustice the CVs have been giving us post kidnapping scene. Shiva and Raavi's characters have been thrown into a tailspin, and it seems as though they need to have an outside influence, whether it is Suman or Maami, to get back on track to the magic they've had before.

I loved being on the forum those days, reading the Shivobersations penned by Felicie, discussing at length the feelings Shiva might have for Raavi, and that Raavi might have for Shiva. We get hints of those kinds of scenes, like where Shiva tells Raavi that only he can be the one to make her cry. But, the fact that he's missing during every Rishita outburst scene makes the story a little bit more depressing. It's clear that only he and Suman have the guts to deal with Rishita head on which is why the makers are avoiding keeping him in those scenes...

I kind of wish ShiVi just form a truce with each other. All their past mistakes are wiped clean and they start afresh with new expectations. I think in that way, we'll be able to see/enjoy the scenes that could be interpreted in many ways. I mean... we could have Shiva making attempts of being someone Raavi could grow to like (like he could start bathing, etc.) and we could have Raavi attempting to be an emotional pillar/support for Shiva. We could even have a scene where they both declare they will be nothing but friends, and we as an audience can enjoy how they're both lying to themselves and each other...

This made me nostalgic, those were some happy days and hefty discussions indeed. Hopefully we get the joy back!

It's too early for a truce going by the timeline, it's only been 5 days (how unbelievable that sounds)

I like the idea of a conversation with his namesake, I recall he does that comically/casually the past few episodes now that you mention it 👍🏼

@I'm sure we're gonna get that somewhere down the line. Will be a riot for the audience as well as PandyaFam 🤣

I don't mind Dev and Rishita at all, they look cute ❤. In fact I don't mind them having screen space as long as ShiVi get decent amount too, enough for them to progress.

My issue is DevTa romancing while they've created havoc everywhere else, it leaves a bad taste. They're such a big part of the problem, but they're so oblivious to what's happening around them. Moreover GauRa are hell bent on Rishita being made comfortable when there's two other people who have been forced into a relationship, they're being told to get on with it and trust the future. It's definitely a case of being taken for granted.

Suman might create that balance we're all craving for. Because she seems more worried for ShiVi so her focus might be on them. Rooting for you Suman, please don't let me down 😭❤.

Originally posted by: ShinyShine

I hope Suman asks all the 3 couples to live individually. This Hawali is soo big give them a portion and asks them to make their food of their own and live individually.

By this we can see:-

1. Gaura coming out of parenting mood

2. Shivi can't help but stay together as they won't have others to be with

3. Most importantly Rishita who thinks uska sirf Dev hain yaha uske saath rahe aur pata chale ki joh logo ko insult kar rahi hain woh free main pet bhar rahe hain iska.

She needs reality check this will only happen when she only have her 'Mera Dev' with her without anyone else and when she will be doing everthing of her won.

I wanted this to happen & according to Promo Dhara asks everyone to live separately.

I hope aisa ho and Suman koyi tamsha na kare.

Kamse kam 10 din chalna chahiye already pichle more than 2 weeks bohot bore kiya hain inn logo ne hume.

Originally posted by: Transference

Eeks

That's one of my most favourite moments of the show. I think those 2 seconds were hefty on anyone who has been in a situation like Shiva. Those two seconds are like floodgates of emotions, feelings. Shiva is left with strange mulling over the fact that he stepped into the shoes of a man that he could never be. As much as Shiva’s life revolved around Raavi, Dev was the centre of her universe. It’s too much for anyone to deal with.

No amount of plastering or Yadon ki Baraat can fix that. That one relationship that could have been his own, is merely a partake left from his brother’s soul.

How painful and ironical! Shivi isn’t what Gaura think they are! There’s too much between them.

Well, Raavi’s interactions with Dev/Shiva is a classic example of Cads Vs Dads.

While Cads ensure a sense of giddiness, sexual enticement, dads give a vision of stability, warmth. Women tend to be attracted to Cads more at the physical level but look for Dads as long term partners. Dev gave the vibe of a secure fairy tale Dad for Raavi and no wonder she chose him.
It would be interesting to see an emotionally distant, physically close Raavi to Shiva. It would be their biggest point of contention and conflict.
We need a scene between Dev and Raavi, with Shiva hiding and listening from a distance. It would be an excellent state of emotional vulnerability and a myriad of moods and details to explore.

Honestly, I am done with Dhara hitting the kids and sobbing for hours. Even Gautam and Dhara need a conflict or some progress. They can't be parents to overgrown kids all their lives.

Gautam and Dhara need a life of their own. Either they take some time off, go on a nice road trip or else plan to have a baby so that their focus shifts from the grown ups to their own kid. Dhara should realize her bacchas are now adults, they can take their own decisions. Yes, they will make mistakes, let them fall, let them get up, thats how they will learn to fly. Gaura can support them, but from a distance not by fighting their battles for them.

I definitely want Suman to step in now and advise Dhara to back off and let her kids be who they are. GauRa can shift their focus to other things

Originally posted by: Miss_SR

I don't mind Dev and Rishita at all, they look cute ❤. In fact I don't mind them having screen space as long as ShiVi get decent amount too, enough for them to progress.

My issue is DevTa romancing while they've created havoc everywhere else, it leaves a bad taste. They're such a big part of the problem, but they're so oblivious to what's happening around them. Moreover GauRa are hell bent on Rishita being made comfortable when there's two other people who have been forced into a relationship, they're being told to get on with it and trust the future. It's definitely a case of being taken for granted.

Suman might create that balance we're all craving for. Because she seems more worried for ShiVi so her focus might be on them. Rooting for you Suman, please don't let me down 😭❤.

Same, this is my problem too. It's no secret that DevTa are given the most screen space in the current track. The issue there is they're doing nothing with it, it's not contributing to the plot. DevTa's relationship requires progress just as much as everyone else in the show, and they're not showing that either. What's the point of repetitive and illogical romance that's putting people off if you can't move the characters and story forward?

https://twitter.com/khanzainab621/status/1394335425725177859?s=20

GUYS! Happy news, check out this extended precap. Hopefully we get to see Shiva-Raavi-Krish equation and Gaura focusing on themselves if they don't go full throttle on the sentimental drama.