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Posted: 4 years ago
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Guys strictly no bashing of any one but plz give your views....

Actually , I really don't like pakhi expressions but there is thought in my mind maybe it's because her character is like that which can't show happy expressions but she has to give either sad or angry or taunting expressions , due to which they is not much expressions change ( like may be there is 20% of chances for this) but I just saw one clip in IG where pakhi is in white dress in initial episodes where virat is going to GC and pakhi has a monologue like I will wait for you virat and stuff... Where her face have zero expressions... I don't if I am only one feeling so but I actually liked her expressions in episodes where she comes back home right after yoga camp and have a little conversation with her dad or in the episode where virat and sai coming to nagpur car scene after marriage... She actually looks good in bubbly role although I didn't liked virakhi chemistry.


So keeping all my hate towards pakhi aside I want to know is it difficult to express pakhi expressions... If Ayesha given the chance to play pakhi role, do you think she can ace it???... What's your opinion.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Few more, just tagging whose names I remember but plz everyone give your opinion.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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To be frank, I found Aishwarya better in initial episodes. I like her expression in the car scene when Sairat where leaving GC with her.

I do know Pakhi's character is a bit difficult but she is very very bad right now. It looks like she is not even trying to be better. I can cut her some slack in difficult scenes but even in normal scenes she has the same look in every damn scene. Atleast as a viewer I will expect the actors to emote very basic things like, happy, sad, angry, hurt, and confused. She has one single look for all these emotions. I don't know when she is angry or when she is hurt. That's the reason there is no connection with her character.


As per Ayesha as Pakhi , she has come a long way from the earlier episodes. I don't know if she would have been perfect but I am sure she would have been better than Aish.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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I don't really notice soo much of Pakhi.... Her character and horrible lines and actions given to her makes me repell her to be honest.


She might have been decently liked person inspite of her onscreen avatar, but her social media post and actions pit her in a negative light.

Further action after roka basically pushed her on the other side.


She was pretty in the Initial yoga days, but these days, she just repels.


Ayesha learned the ropes on a daily basis. She would have performed this character also nicely, but of course, the screenplay should be better.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: Saichintalli

Guys strictly no bashing of any one but plz give your views....

Actually , I really don't like pakhi expressions but there is thought in my mind maybe it's because her character is like that which can't show happy expressions but she has to give either sad or angry or taunting expressions , due to which they is not much expressions change ( like may be there is 20% of chances for this) but I just saw one clip in IG where pakhi is in white dress in initial episodes where virat is going to GC and pakhi has a monologue like I will wait for you virat and stuff... Where her face have zero expressions... I don't if I am only one feeling so but I actually liked her expressions in episodes where she comes back home right after yoga camp and have a little conversation with her dad or in the episode where virat and sai coming to nagpur car scene after marriage... She actually looks good in bubbly role although I didn't liked virakhi chemistry.


So keeping all my hate towards pakhi aside I want to know is it difficult to express pakhi expressions... If Ayesha given the chance to play pakhi role, do you think she can ace it???... What's your opinion.

I'm really bad at stating my opinion about the art of acting but this is what I have to say---

I feel we as audience can't completely judge the level of difficulty it takes to portray a certain character. The person who develops the character has a certain emotion or perspective in the way he/she would like to see the character on screen. Does he/she intend to show her as a person suffering, or a person with a slightly revengeful attitude, or as a cribber, etc. That's one.

Then, how would you like the audience to see the character, as positive, completely negative or a little mysterious and vague. That's two.

Then how the actor assumes the character to be and how much he/she can feel it. That's three.

Then how the storyline and timeline of events is progressing and what all does the character have to go through. That's four.

Regarding the casting, I won't make any comments even hypothetically considering swapping Ayesha and Aishwarya both... cuz I feel we only know them by their characters, we have a fixed perception in mind and we don't know if given that absolutey free space what can they offer us.


This might sound confusing... but this is all I could think of.... sorry🙈

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Posted: 4 years ago
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hmm interesting question!!

I never had an issue with aishwarya initially i'll be honest! she wasn't bad in the beginning...

Ever since her return from her parent's house track her performance has started to go down!

That is because she has shifted her energy somewhere else ( i won't discuss it)



i don't think it should be difficult to portray pakhi's expressions! karishma is a little similar though not as vile, she has her moments and we can feel through sneha's expressions what karishma is thinking or what she wants..

I compared Sneha because she is fairly new herself!


As for Ayesha, in the beginning, I would have said no, but I see her improve and i feel she could pull it off though the issue would be that she looks young! That is also a reason she nails Sai well is because she looks younger and has that innocence!


Pakhi is more interesting and honestly, an opportunity of a lifetime to play! If Ayesha was in the role I feel over a period she would have improved (though i'll be honest I cannot think of anyone as SAI JOSHI than AYESHA SINGH! she just nails it and call me biased I cannot accept anyone else as SAI)


I feel Aishwarya has potential somewhere, I saw her performance in the beginning and I saw one episode of her web show, she wasn't as bad as she is right now! If she wants she can improve and work on her expressions but unfortunately she spends her time on other unnecessary topics which we are all aware of!

The other thing that affects her performance is the lack of acceptance from her side for her character... she is not ready to accept pakhi as a grey/negative character! she wants to sympathize with pakhi, I don't think that is helping her! she needs to understand the clear motives behind her character and work on that....

We have all seen a fair share of ITV by now and we see goodie two shoe character playing actors transform into negative characters! Even many other newcomers do the same... Suraj (aniket) for that matter also played a negative role before coming of GHKKPM... and he was not bad!


The thing that is pulling her down in my opinion is her need to justify pakhi.. she wants us to sympathize with pakhi like she does without understanding that people will not! she needs to understand that like kaku even she plays the role well we will love to hate her! kishori ji knows that as well so does sheetal, they know we love to hate kaku and sonali and they accept it...


If Aishwarya wants she can do a good job but for that she needs to think of her priorities and work on herself and accept her role for what it is!

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Pakhi's character has many layers and she has to show us all of that. The reason why people find her delusional is because sometimes she is supposed to show herself as that too.

She is an evil character but has got some good values which comes out a few times. Vamps are negative in all ways, Pakhi can get concerned a few times. She feels sorry for people sometimes, like though she helped Kaku in separating Devi and Pulkit, somewhere she wanted Devi's happiness too. But when that intention got polluted with her thoughts of defeating Sai, her actual true good intentions got defeated.

Her emotions for Virat which she thinks is love is a mixed emotion which constitutes of mainly obsession, to attain him or win him, to own him, also with a little care, concern and understanding. Since the obsession is overpowering all the other real emotions, those emotions means nothing in reality even though she has care for him. What's the use in caring for a person when the person's wishes or wants are ignored, neglected or taken for granted? She thinks she knows what he wants or what is good for him which is she herself and hence even his want for Sai is overlooked by her.

Her character is a manipulative character who can use people the way she wants and whenever she wants, like Karishma or Kaku.

She is a person who thinks has an upbringing where raising voice against an elder is wrong, fighting or arguing with elders are wrong, but in reality she applies this to only elders who is favorable or who supports her at the moment. It ultimately comes to obssession for Virat. That makes her behave disrespectfully to Ashwini. She should act like a person with split personality.

There can be soft natured people who have no good intentions, she is like that. She has become a slow poison.

The thing is that if Sai had not come between her and Virat, she might not have been like this with Sai. If Ashwini was not showing her place, she wouldn't be like that with Ashwini. If Virat doesn't love Sai and stuck to the promise he had given to her, she wouldn't be like who she is today. That is why everytime when people point out whatever she does, she acts shocked, she is not a person who would do it but is actually doing it. Her character should at this point show that she is shocked to know that they think about her like that but she also doesn't care or doesn't believe that she is bad or her actions are bad and she continues to do whatever she does without any guilt. To her, her emotions for Virat are pure, it is love and she is doing everything only because she loves him even if Virat understands her or not.


Aishwarya, as you have said, I have liked a few scenes of hers, she did a pretty decent job. Even now, she is okay in a few scenes but the question is if she is emoting whatever I have mentioned above.

I have been able to gather whatever I have described about her character not just through her acting, through the way the story has progressed, through her dialogues, through her interaction with other characters too. Would leave it to all of you to judge her acting abilities. I usually don't have too high expectations with any actor/actresses. Will watch the show if I like the story and acting, if not, I don't watch it at all. Pakhi's role, though is a significant one in this show, I can manage to watch the show even if I am unhappy with her acting skills at many places. The same way, to be honest and frank, even if Ayesha needs improvement in her acting skills, I am happy to watch because she has improved a lot from the beginning of the show, I love her as Sai, love her as the lead for Virat, for Sairat's chemistry.


Neil, as we all know is a really good actor, even if I find something like an overacting, they can be neglected compared to his overall performance which is usually very good. He has been in this industry for years and has always been working on his skills. A friend of mine recently shared an old interview of his and Ayesha, in which Neil had said that he had used the lockdown period before the show started to work on Virat's character. It seems he had signed up for the show first and so had a lot of time until the show actually started.

So when an actor like him had to work on the character, I believe Ayesha was signed up for this role, just before the show started, so her working will be only in the shoot. Not many ofcourse get time before show starts but since she is a beginner, I think we can give it to her that she has really tried to give her best especially with her busy schedule.


I don't want to think Ayesha playing Pakhi's role 🙈.

Ofcourse every actor has to play any role given, so if Ayesha has to play some negative role in the future, she will work on that and will try to give her best.

Hardwork, determination, efforts put are all very important and I believe Ayesha is currently doing all of these.

Ayesha's screen space is more, we have all seen that she hardly used to pose in bts pics too due to her busy schedule. Though she is not getting enough time to practice, being a newcomer, even though this is the first show she is playing a role of a female lead, I think Ayesha is doing a decent job, trying hard, learning some skilss from Neil too. So I guess, with time and experience, she will learn a lot more and will give her best in future as antagonist too.


Haven't checked what I have written, excuse me for spelling mistakes or grammatical mistakes 🙈.

Edited by laksh - 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: laksh

Her character has many layers and she has to show us all of that. The reason why people find her delusional is because she is supposed to sometimes show herself as that also.

She is an evil character but has got some good values which comes out a few times. Vamps are negative in all ways, Pakhi can get concerned a few times. She feels sorry for people sometimes, like though she helped Kaku in separating Devi and Pulkit, somewhere she wanted Devi's happiness too. But when that intention got polluted with her thoughts of defeating Sai, her actual true good intentions got defeated.

Her emotions for Virat which she thinks is love is a mixed emotion which constitutes of mainly obsession, to attain him or win him, to own him, also with a little care, concern and understanding. Since the obsession is overpowering all the other real emotions, those emotions means nothing in reality even though she has care for him. What's the use in caring for a person when the person's wishes or wants are ignored, neglected or taken for granted? She thinks she knows what he wants or what is good for him which is she herself and hence even his want for Sai is overlooked by her.

Her character is a manipulative character who can use people the way she wants and whenever she wants, like Karishma or Kaku.

She is a person who thinks has an upbringing where raising voice against an elder is wrong, fighting or arguing with elders are wrong, but in reality she applies this to only elders who is favorable or who supports her at the moment. It ultimately comes to obssession for Virat. That makes her behave disrespectfully to Ashwini. She should act like a person with split personality.

There can be soft natured people who have no good intentions, she is like that. She has become a slow poison.

The thing is that if Sai had not come between her and Virat, she might not have been like this with Sai. If Ashwini was not showing her place, she wouldn't be like that with Ashwini. If Virat doesn't love Sai and stuck to the promise he had given to her, she wouldn't be like who she is today. That is why everytime when people point out whatever she does, she acts shocked, she is not a person who would do it but is actually doing it. Her character should at this point show that she is shocked to know that they think about her like that but she also doesn't care or doesn't believe that she is bad or her actions are bad and she continues to do whatever she does without any guilt. To her, her emotions for Virat are pure, it is love and she is doing everything only because she loves him even if Virat understands her or not.


Aishwarya, as you have said, I have liked a few scenes of hers, she did a pretty decent job. Even now, she is okay in a few scenes but the question is if she is emoting whatever I have mentioned above.

I have been able to gather whatever I have described about her character not just through her acting, through the way the story has progressed, through her dialogues, through her interaction with other characters too. Would leave it to all of you to judge her acting abilities. I usually don't have too high expectations with any actor/actresses. Will watch the show if I like the story and acting, if not, I don't watch it at all. Pakhi's role, though is a significant one in this show, I can manage to watch the show even if I am unhappy with her acting skills at many places. The same way, to be honest and frank, even if Ayesha needs improvement in her acting skills, I am happy to watch because she has improved a lot from the beginning of the show, I love her as Sai, love her as the lead for Virat, for Sairat's chemistry.


Neil, as we all know is a really good actor, even if I find something like an overacting, they can be neglected compared to his overall performance which is usually very good. He has been in this industry for years and has always been working on his skills. A friend of mine recently shared an old interview of his and Ayesha, in which Neil had said that he had used the lockdown period before the show started to work on Virat's character. It seems he had signed up for the show first and so had a lot of time until the show actually started.

So when an actor like him had to work on the character, I believe Ayesha was signed just before the show started, so her working will be only in the shoot. Not many ofcourse get time beforw show starts but since she is a beginner, I think we can give it to her that she has really tried to give her best especially with her busy schedule.


I don't want to think Ayesha playing Pakhi's role 🙈.

Ofcourse every actor has to play any role given, so if Ayesha has to play some negative role in the future, she will work on that and will try to give her best.

Hardwork, determination, efforts put are all very important and I believe Ayesha is currently doing all of these.

Ayesha's screen space is more, we have all seen that she hardly used to pose in bts pics too due to her busy schedule. Though she is not getting enough time to practice, being a newcomer, even though this is the first show she is playing a role of a female lead, I think Ayesha is doing a decent job, trying hard, learning some skilss from Neil too. So I guess, with time and experience, she will learn a lot more and will give her best in future as antagonist too.


Haven't checked what I have written, excuse me for spelling mistakes or grammatical mistakes 🙈.

How did you manage to type so much🥺 mera toh dimaag hi kaam nahi kar raha🥺 Brilliant

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: Justasuperbgirl

How did you manage to type so much🥺 mera toh dimaag hi kaam nahi kar raha🥺 Brilliant

Hahahahaha


Tumhara dimag toh ghum hai na abhi🤣🤣

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Originally posted by: Sera-high123

Hahahahaha


Tumhara dimag toh ghum hai na abhi🤣🤣

Ya....

But I still managed to write about 5 paragraphs🙈

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