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Posted: 4 years ago

Originally posted by: rivaanvira


Majority predicted Mahi will die leading to Feedi dying in shock or something ..

like the HN novel where both leads die !!


Mir Hadi should not have got the girl despite a glorious redemption, his redemption will always stay with me, best one till date. Did not watch GER yet, and in Ishqiya, his character deserved a second chance, he was borderline harassing someone but again there was redemption and he actually punished while the female lead went scot free for the same kind of mistakes, so it raised a lot of questions about the unfair ending
I havent seen Ishqiya because I couldnt tolerate the female character with whom he was in love with. But I heard that his & Hania's chemistry was firecrackling !!!

Yes - Khaani story line was pitch perfect. Someone like him didnt deserve the girl back despite his redemption. Who in sane mind falls in love with her brother's killer knowingly, other than EK shows

Hmm, sounds logical but I dont think they would avoid showing that as "Next Episode". Have you noticed all OST scenes are actually covered in "Next Episode"

No, The OST is filled with all the mazaar and Feedi's homeless scenes, we still have a lot to see

Oh yeah, we do !! But I just couldnt place that train station wala scene after knowing that next episode they are declaring his death



Which novel? I do not know any novels though, never read any urdu novels.


Yes, Ishqiya had the worst written female lead (Humna) and the actress I do not know had a single expression in every other scene, and it was painful to see the show seeking sympathy for her. Feroze-Hania had an amazing chemistry though, even the characters they played had similarities in their traits. I think the show has been so famous because of the crackling chemistry.


Yes Mir Hadi's journey was beautiful and he did not deserve the girl, a justified ending. But the show even though titled as kHAANI, seemed like a Mir Hadi's journey, the character Khaani had no growth post 5th episode I think and I thought the focus was too much on Mir Hadi's ishq, guilt and redemption. But whatever it was, it was good.


everyone is confused that whether they will delete the train station scene, that was one of the most beautifully shot scenes, and if they delete that one also

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Posted: 4 years ago

Originally posted by: rivaanvira

I always had a hard time picking my favorite among the lot then came Faysal Qureshi .. I just fell in love with him .. gave me SRK vibes..

But since Khaani & GER, I am in awe of FK


I did not find anything great in Faysal, there was a time I liked Mikaal. But I think Fawad is special, he is just special ❤️

Feroze is a revelation for me, I think I am still digesting the fact that he carried Mir Hadi with that kind of panache.

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Posted: 4 years ago

Originally posted by: rivaanvira

Yes it was .. No wonder it still is known famously


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the storyline matched Kasauti though

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Posted: 4 years ago

Well I personally will say Iqra did very well in KAM3, I have never watched her previous shows, but I think to match Feroze's screen presence is terrific, because I feel Feroze's screen presence is just so towering that it is a commendable job to match that, Iqra did well, but her character also was not written very well.

Oh very true! Its very hard to match his presence. I am not criticizing her acting skills, just that she has it in her to deliver more, just like FK does, its up to the director to do so. So far all those that he has starred with have matched his level of acting and so has Iqra


Coming back to Feroze, yes I think Farhad is 100 folds more complex than Mir Hadi, Mir Hadi's trend was from high to low, here Farhad's trend is from low to his lowest, and yes the innate naivety which he brings to this character deserves another separate post. And the character also gives him scope to portray a range of emotions, like there is a fine line between sympathy, empathy and hate for the character, and he attracts all of that at the same time. For example, I will point out his subtle change of expressions from hope to disbelief when Mahi tells him that he day dreams and Feedi reiterate by saying 'Main khawb dekhta hoo?.. Mere khwab jhootey hain'?.. That millisecond transition of expression was brilliant. You could see that how people react when delusion slaps them hard

@bold: Right! Mir Hadi's transformation was more external - from a negative to a positive person. Whereas, Farhad's is more internal - from a human being with attachments to spiritual with no attachments. This type of transformation is far more complicated & deep than physical transformation.

Reminds me of my EMBA journey - where we were asked to self reflect throughout the program. Everyone in the program saw me transform physically (pixie cut to long hair in 14 months), but that self reflection changed me more internally that no one saw & felt extremely complex to me

Anyways back to discussion - Oh I have loved his subtle changes in expression in that scene - disbelief to bitterness to reality slapping him to finally feeling the loss !! Loved loved absolutely loved him. Feeling lack of words/praises


No no, he never rejected her, I mean their banters were not even romantic, it was typical like chaddi buddies who love to fight, that is it. Baddua is a very sensitive term too, it can only come when extreme emotions and trauma collides, as I have already said Nahid and Sajal were meant to show that Feedi had women around him and he still chose the one who did not choose him. The story was more on the trajectory of self destructive love, so it is moving that way, and every human in their whole life have that one weak or worst moment where they forget what they are saying or doing, the baddua scenario was Feedi's that moment.

Ah! Got it. Well I am not buying the writer's tweets here. He may have said those only to mislead viewers further. These people will do anything in the name of TRP.

@bold: After all we all are humans. Don't they say "To Err is Human .. And to Forgive is Divine"


Yes, and Mahi justified herself very well yesterday, that I never said anything or promised anything, but well dude you were low key bullying someone's visible and attraction towards you. At least tell him sorry before breaking his delusional self. Also, as he said there is something called human instincts, yes he could be dumb enough to leave everything and come to propose her, but he acted on his instincts. Unlike many here, I completely believe that his outburst and anger was justified, just because he belongs to a lower educated back ground does not mean that he can be played. Feedi is someone who can be molded into any form with kindness I think, I think Mahi's kindness had made him blind too because she was too rich and big to be even his friend, leave being his lady love. I think his rant was right but him cursing her was wrong, he wronged the person he loves the most and that is what is the whole purpose of his character's development. He just cannot curse her no matter what she did, also he was always the better person given his compassion and life serving nature, he was always the one who listened from heart and saw people only for their goodness, he just went below his basic character traits and let his disgust overtake his every goodness. It is sad but it is coherent with many real life situations too. Blaming him for the curse is wrong but crucifying his entire plight and reducing it to zero is not, Mahi's actions wronged him and his words wronged Mahi. I love the current dynamic though, he left shattered, she is torn here, taimoor dies, he loses it and she wants him to come back, destiny will have its own plans.

See thats the premise which led him to continue insisting that she is attracted to him too - Instead of apologizing she was arguing back that it was a silly prank she played on him that she used him. If this is not blatant arrogance than what is!

@bold: Had he let her go without cursing, wouldve indirectly meant forgiving her! And he isn't that big soulfully to have let her go.

@italic: Like you said - it is coherent with real life situation. He is the bigger & better person between the two, but he too had reached his lowest point by then. You can only push someone so much and if he lashed out at her for it, he wasn;t in the wrong for doing it. Yes, he is equally guilty for doing it. But such is the journey of everybody;s lives. Until we do not get pushed to the bottom of the pit, we do not make the effort to rise above all of it.

@underline: All of it will come a full circle at the end .. so far they all have been eating up their own words (minus Taimoor - the man doesnt have many dialogues to eat his own words .. ) His - rich people arent that bad; Hers - mohabbat aur tumse? mere itne bhi bure din nahi aaye! His - you will suffer too just like I did; Her - she will!; Him - will regret; Her - she will pine for him .. !!


Here it is not TRPs only, even online viewership, not every high rated TRP show works amongst the online audience, and for KAM3, the online viewership is an all time record in itself. And funny thing is in YT the comments are more neutral like, people does not care about the baddua ..LOL

Well technically I meant - Paise ke liye sab chalta hai .. Yahan pe, paise, fame ke liye sab chalta hai

@Italic: I guess we IFers are taking this too seriously .. LOL


yes, I hope sajal shuts up with her own theory of chahat now, the best she can do is tell Mahi that she was rejected by Feedi, because Mahi has to organically believe that this man was only about her.

I dont think she is going to open her mouth here and it will be irrelevant. I dont know if Mahi needs organic validation, honestly. She is well assured that he left everything behind for her & is ready to fight her family for her !! To me, if thats not validation enough then what is!!


But the problem is his dumb self will think she is suffering for Taimoor, when in reality she will suffer for him, and that is the irony of his baddua. The writer is sadistic, he just wanted to connect Feedi with Mahi's widow self somehow, hence the baddua and subsequent life long guilt (i hope our predictions are right though). I really hope Feedi-Mahi has a whole conversation on the baddua in future, it will be great if they have one, where both are regretting their words, Feedi regretting his baddua and Mahi regretting her 'Takke ki jaazbaat'

Oh yes, that he will. Didnt he say that she will suffer too. And after all she is his one (true) love, he is bound to regret cursing her!! Had he not curse her, he wouldnt have regretted and this regret will only bring him closer to Allah warna woh khud hi khuda na ban jata?!?!

Waise, writer jaisa bhi ho - sadistic, sarcastic, realistic.. yeh ek show hai .. if they dont use such tricks then how will they achieve success .. Gaye woh din jab ZGH type shows worked without such histronics

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Posted: 4 years ago

Originally posted by: SteFanSalvaTor


Which novel? I do not know any novels though, never read any urdu novels.

Me neither - But isnt KAM1 based on HM novel of the same name?


Yes, Ishqiya had the worst written female lead (Humna) and the actress I do not know had a single expression in every other scene, and it was painful to see the show seeking sympathy for her. Feroze-Hania had an amazing chemistry though, even the characters they played had similarities in their traits. I think the show has been so famous because of the crackling chemistry.

Yeah I saw some episodes but didnt like the Humna female. But have been thinking of watching it for FK & Hania's chemistry only


Yes Mir Hadi's journey was beautiful and he did not deserve the girl, a justified ending. But the show even though titled as kHAANI, seemed like a Mir Hadi's journey, the character Khaani had no growth post 5th episode I think and I thought the focus was too much on Mir Hadi's ishq, guilt and redemption. But whatever it was, it was good.

I didnt really enjoy Sana's screaming in the show .. I was cringing at it most of the time.

Infact my mom was totally blown by FK's acting in it..


everyone is confused that whether they will delete the train station scene, that was one of the most beautifully shot scenes, and if they delete that one also

Nahiiiii - the last thing I want is that scene to be deleted !! But I dont know how they will incorporate it either


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Posted: 4 years ago

Originally posted by: SteFanSalvaTor


I did not find anything great in Faysal, there was a time I liked Mikaal. But I think Fawad is special, he is just special ❤️

Feroze is a revelation for me, I think I am still digesting the fact that he carried Mir Hadi with that kind of panache.

I liked Faysal because I saw him in 2 different shows with different characters - Qaid-e-Tanhai & Bashar Momin and then I loved him in Baba Jani. I just couldnt find FQ anywhere, for me they were those characters that stayed with me, just like Feroze's ..

Oh, I love Fawad too .. very charming and easily steals women;s hearts with his charming smile, suave personality & thick baritone voice

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Posted: 4 years ago

Originally posted by: SteFanSalvaTor


🤣

the storyline matched Kasauti though

I detest EK shows man !! I cannot stand them .. and after watching Paki shows, I no longer watch Hindi shows either !!

If you enjoy hindi shows you should watch Patiala Babes, esp after Anirudh Dave steps in the show.

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Posted: 4 years ago

Originally posted by: Unique.Sheep

Probably because it was my first ever Pak show😛

I just love your daily gif change 😆 Mujhse toh ek bhi change nai hota😖 these r all my fav shows too. Specially ghum and pandya store.

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Posted: 4 years ago

Originally posted by: rivaanvira


@bold: Right! Mir Hadi's transformation was more external - from a negative to a positive person. Whereas, Farhad's is more internal - from a human being with attachments to spiritual with no attachments. This type of transformation is far more complicated & deep than physical transformation.

Reminds me of my EMBA journey - where we were asked to self reflect throughout the program. Everyone in the program saw me transform physically (pixie cut to long hair in 14 months), but that self reflection changed me more internally that no one saw & felt extremely complex to me

Anyways back to discussion - Oh I have loved his subtle changes in expression in that scene - disbelief to bitterness to reality slapping him to finally feeling the loss !! Loved loved absolutely loved him. Feeling lack of words/praises


Yes, Farhad definitely is the more complicated character if compared with Mir Hadi. Also, Mir Hadi was presented as a larger than life persona, whereas Farhad is presented as someone who has probably failed in every step of his life, be it academics, parents' expectations, love and even now he failed his basic good ness too, it is traumatizing to be in such a state for anyone, and I believe the journey we will see will be great, it is more like abandoning the materialistic pleasures to please the God. Over here, I also feel he will wear Mahi's earring bead as an amulet only after the guilt hits him hard.


Ah! Got it. Well I am not buying the writer's tweets here. He may have said those only to mislead viewers further. These people will do anything in the name of TRP.

@bold: After all we all are humans. Don't they say "To Err is Human .. And to Forgive is Divine"

I am sure writer just tried to calm down the extreme reactions upon the baddua, like people behaved as if this was the last episode where Feedi won and mahi lost, like calm down guys, all he meant was the journey just started. But i do not agree with the writer's points of Nahid and Sajal, it did not show up in the episodes, so we cannot just assume within ourselves. But the writer clearly mentioned that Feedi will experience different stages of love, I do not know whether i should trust him or not 🤣

Yes to err is human, and Feedi is a human, who is flawed, who is hurt, who is aimless too, and now whether the divine power forgives him is yet to be seen.


See thats the premise which led him to continue insisting that she is attracted to him too - Instead of apologizing she was arguing back that it was a silly prank she played on him that she used him. If this is not blatant arrogance than what is!

@bold: Had he let her go without cursing, wouldve indirectly meant forgiving her! And he isn't that big soulfully to have let her go.

@italic: Like you said - it is coherent with real life situation. He is the bigger & better person between the two, but he too had reached his lowest point by then. You can only push someone so much and if he lashed out at her for it, he wasn;t in the wrong for doing it. Yes, he is equally guilty for doing it. But such is the journey of everybody;s lives. Until we do not get pushed to the bottom of the pit, we do not make the effort to rise above all of it.

Yes, if he would have let her go without the curse, it would still mean that a heart was broken, and God has seen it, even in real life there are many incidents when someone's intentional/unintentional words or actions hurts you so much that it leaves you shattered and God gives everything back as karma even though you do not ask for it loud. This scenario is similar too, Mahi's unintentional or even silly prank led to someone's honest ending up heart broken, God has seen it and even without Feedi's curse mahi would've got it back. However, Feedi asking for that destruction made it insensitive because again just because a dog bites me, I cannot bite it back, same theory applies here, he was still the better man and he should have stayed true to his values at least, he broke the code here and he will repent for it, he was not literally responsible for anything Mahi will go through, but yes the impact of his curse will always sustain and make both of them miserable.


@underline: All of it will come a full circle at the end .. so far they all have been eating up their own words (minus Taimoor - the man doesnt have many dialogues to eat his own words .. ) His - rich people arent that bad; Hers - mohabbat aur tumse? mere itne bhi bure din nahi aaye! His - you will suffer too just like I did; Her - she will!; Him - will regret; Her - she will pine for him .. !!


Seems like a competition of who eats their words faster here🤣.. The fact that she will pine for him and he will try his best to hide from her will be ironic though. Like at one stage of their lives, he would do anything to get noticed by her and now he will hide from that face, I think he will also believe that he is not capable of her, or worthy of her as she had already said. But she will tell him that 'he was the better man' ..


Well technically I meant - Paise ke liye sab chalta hai .. Yahan pe, paise, fame ke liye sab chalta hai

@Italic: I guess we IFers are taking this too seriously .. LOL

At least I am not taking it very seriously, do not know about others.. But i do not like any negativity and I avoid it, I love discussing the characters but not dissing them though.


I dont think she is going to open her mouth here and it will be irrelevant. I dont know if Mahi needs organic validation, honestly. She is well assured that he left everything behind for her & is ready to fight her family for her !! To me, if thats not validation enough then what is!!

I think you are right, Mahi has already seen that whatever he did, it was only for her validation, and I felt that his departure news did not relieve her, it was more like she wanted him to leave to get some peace but his absence is bothering her more now. Sajal opening her mouth to Mahi could only happen if both Sajal and Mahi are crying for their Devdas together..🤣


Oh yes, that he will. Didnt he say that she will suffer too. And after all she is his one (true) love, he is bound to regret cursing her!! Had he not curse her, he wouldnt have regretted and this regret will only bring him closer to Allah warna woh khud hi khuda na ban jata?!?!


That is it na, he is not God but only a normal human being with feelings , why did people expect him to behave like one who can never commit anything wrong, the reactions are so extreme that it seemed like everyone expected Feedi to kiss Mahi's feet after the humiliation, like why 🤣, they had already established that he was blind and terribly delusional, he never had his own brain to process too. That is what I could say to justify his actions..🤪


Waise, writer jaisa bhi ho - sadistic, sarcastic, realistic.. yeh ek show hai .. if they dont use such tricks then how will they achieve success .. Gaye woh din jab ZGH type shows worked without such histronics

the trick is to 101 ways to torture the male lead 🤣. By the way, I am glad at least watching a show where male lead has more agni pariksha than female lead, no matter what, somehow Feedi will be connected to Mhai's in laws too, I am telling you 🤪

ZGH type of shows can work at any time I think, such shows are just rare and will always find an audience.


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Posted: 4 years ago

Originally posted by: rivaanvira

I detest EK shows man !! I cannot stand them .. and after watching Paki shows, I no longer watch Hindi shows either !!

If you enjoy hindi shows you should watch Patiala Babes, esp after Anirudh Dave steps in the show.


I detest any kind of ITV shows, like please not interested. I really do not have the patience and time to watch the shows, the last hindi show I watched was Bepannah just because Harshad was marvelous and again it was lowkey a male centric but the way the handled the whole EMA track , it was 🤢

ITV's problem is they start with such promising arcs for male leads and it goes down just the way temperature in my place during fall.🤣

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