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Posted: 4 years ago
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Another level of dumbassery 😆


https://twitter.com/BesuraTaansane/status/1385834199534358533


Apparently, this was all a trick to get Pfizer vaccine approved for India.


Pfizer was trying to give India their ALREADY MADE vaccines for FREE. Vaccine which is 96% effcicaious as opposed to AZ's/Covishield's 52-76%, and acc to this Twitter bot, the whole thing was a setup by the Biden admin because Pfizer donated to his campaign?


So Pfizer wanted to force free vaccines on India? And got Biden to create an international ruckus to force India to accept free and better as well as more readily available meds?😆 Oh, what criminals!


Some people really do deserve their governments.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Kangana would be very happy now, I guess🤔

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Posted: 4 years ago
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The vaccine might not always prevent u from getting it but it will be much less severe of an infection if u r vaccinated.

and even if vaccine immunity lasts only a year,its important to break the chain of spread. the more people get vaccinated the less it will spread n the quickers rhe graph will flatten.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: tapori

Yes, in my humble opinion (I'm not a medical professional, so please take with a grain of salt).

I would advise to take whichever you have available as soon as you legally can. 👍🏼

I’ll have to pay for either so I can pick which one to get

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Posted: 4 years ago
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What about the Chinese vaccines? Did anybody mention them?


They seem to have keeping covid under control, we don’t hear about any second or third wave... No terrifying BBC articles on China unlike India... So their vaccine must be the most effective


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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: HearMeRoar

Another level of dumbassery 😆


https://twitter.com/BesuraTaansane/status/1385834199534358533


Apparently, this was all a trick to get Pfizer vaccine approved for India.


Pfizer was trying to give India their ALREADY MADE vaccines for FREE. Vaccine which is 96% effcicaious as opposed to AZ's/Covishield's 52-76%, and acc to this Twitter bot, the whole thing was a setup by the Biden admin because Pfizer donated to his campaign?


So Pfizer wanted to force free vaccines on India? And got Biden to create an international ruckus to force India to accept free and better as well as more readily available meds?😆 Oh, what criminals!


Some people really do deserve their governments.

Pfizer and Moderna vaccines cannot be used in India. It does not have the cold chain facilities for mRNA vaccines other than large private hospitals in metros for it's storage.

Even if it is free and 95percent effective what's the point of getting it into India if it cannot be sent safely without it going waste to majority of the population. We don't have refrigeration systems in small and rural health centres to store Pfizer


India can use covishield and covaxin more effective along with sputnik all three manage fine with limited cold chain that India has and that is why they were given preference for trial and approvals.

Plus the fact is how much units can Pfizer and moderna provide. Each vaccine has to be given twice. They cannot match the production of Covishield Covaxin and Sputnik. We are 130 crore people


US was restricting raw materials to force India to pick up US owned vaccines to promote their country's company they have every right to do that. If India was in that position to flex muscles it would do so to for home companies.

But is Pandemic the best time for US to be protectionist for that matter any country


Fortunately the raw materials have been released now and we can have covishield covaxin and sputnik as well.


Pfizer and Moderna may become available eventually in the private hospitals to make up the shortfalls if the other three vaccines are not able to produce enough.

Edited by Chiillii - 4 years ago
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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: BettyA1

What about the Chinese vaccines? Did anybody mention them?


They seem to have keeping covid under control, we don’t hear about any second or third wave... No terrifying BBC articles on China unlike India... So their vaccine must be the most effective



Chinese vaccine is the most widely administered vaccine right now. Most of the uae and Middle East got the sinopharm vaccines, they also imported them to Asian countries like iSingapore, Pakistan, Malaysia, Philippines.



And why aren’t we getting any articles on China?

Lol that’s cause even Chinese people don’t get news about China 😒


also they imposed one of the most strict lockdown in the world, where people weren’t even allowed to leave homes at all... literal military standing on streets to prevent people from going out... they even tracked the people who rushed out of covid hotspots and brought them back...


but China did withhold initial outbreak of covid and its severity... if it was any other country in the world... I’m sure the UN and nato forces would have invaded it by now 🙄


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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: Justwatching


Chinese vaccine is the most widely administered vaccine right now. Most of the uae and Middle East got the sinopharm vaccines, they also imported them to Asian countries like iSingapore, Pakistan, Malaysia, Philippines.



And why aren’t we getting any articles on China?

Lol that’s cause even Chinese people don’t get news about China 😒


also they imposed one of the most strict lockdown in the world, where people weren’t even allowed to leave homes at all... literal military standing on streets to prevent people from going out... they even tracked the people who rushed out of covid hotspots and brought them back...


but China did withhold initial outbreak of covid and its severity... if it was any other country in the world... I’m sure the UN and nato forces would have invaded it by now 🙄



Bold - Yes and banned travel from other countries to China but did not stop planes travelling to other countries from China including Wuhan


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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: Chiillii

Pfizer and Moderna vaccines cannot be used in India. It does not have the cold chain facilities for mRNA vaccines other than large private hospitals in metros for it's storage.

Even if it is free and 95percent effective what's the point of getting it into India if it cannot be sent safely without it going waste to majority of the population. We don't have refrigeration systems in small and rural health centres to store Pfizer


India can use covishield and covaxin more effective along with sputnik all three manage fine with limited cold chain that India has and that is why they were given preference for trial and approvals.

Plus the fact is how much units can Pfizer and moderna provide. Each vaccine has to be given twice. They cannot match the production of Covishield Covaxin and Sputnik. We are 130 crore people


US was restricting raw materials to force India to pick up US owned vaccines to promote their country's company they have every right to do that. If India was in that position to flex muscles it would do so to for home companies.

But is Pandemic the best time for US to be protectionist for that matter any country


Fortunately the raw materials have been released now and we can have covishield covaxin and sputnik as well.


Pfizer and Moderna may become available eventually in the private hospitals to make up the shortfalls if the other three vaccines are not able to produce enough.


First of all, Moderna can be stored in a refrigerator. It doesn't need deep freeze like Pfizer. Second of all, most of India's 1.3 billion people remain unvaccinated. You can simultaneously use several vaccines and perhaps use the large centers for Pfizer vaccine. No one is going to credibly claim AIIMS centers around the nation don't have the refrigeration capabilities. Or the IITs. Or the space centers. Or the military.


The U.S. also has AZ vaccine stockpiled (same as Covishield). 40 million doses which it is not using at all! But India did not even request supplies despite Indian-American lawmakers clamoring for it to be released.


Nope, the Indian government wanted raw materials which would take time and money to process. They did not want the readymade vaccine.


U.S. flexes its muscle with and without need, pandemic or otherwise (in fact, doesn't do it where it is actually needed, like with China). This was about looking out for its own, not flexing muscle.


But what the government in India is doing is either corrupt or mind-bogglingly incompetent.


This is not about U.S. or India or which political party is in power. This is personal for me. I have parents back home who are waiting for their jabs. I have aunts and uncles and cousins I'm worried sick about. I have 2 very dear friends who recently tested positive.


I'm supremely angry that the lives of my loved ones are at risk while someone makes money off the vaccine deals. B******s. May they rot in hell.

Edited by HearMeRoar - 4 years ago
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Posted: 4 years ago
#30

Originally posted by: HearMeRoar


This is not about U.S. or India or which political party is in power. This is personal for me. I have parents back home who are waiting for their jabs. I have aunts and uncles and cousins I'm worried sick about. I have 2 very dear friends who recently tested positive.


My mom's closest childhood friend just died in Ahmedabad. We got the call this morning. She had already had her first shot and was waiting for the second one. In between, she got infected and developed a 104 fever. They admitted her to the hospital but they had no oxygen for her. I'm so angry that my hands are literally shaking as I type this.

. Nobody should die in the modern world for lack of oxygen.


Edited out for bashing the Indian Govt.

Edited by Sutapasima - 4 years ago

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