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Posted: 4 years ago
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I think the reason for her seeming out of character is not much her actions but rushing of her falling in love phase and the overall story and also very (like extremely) poor written dialogues for anokhi.


If I concentrate on her actions (except her coming to Goa, but I won’t count that)

She seems like a teenager experiencing her first love and wanting to just enjoy the special feeling that her to be bf is making her feel. I think she isn’t thinking much about money with respect to shaurya because of being on cloud nine.

But, she is the same anokhi like how with ahir she refused, so her self respect is still intact.


But, the thing is We (or I atleast) are not able to connect to that very love ka fever that is making her do such things, They should have shown it more gradually, a step by step process to make us connect with her side.

Once we would have connected with the extent of her feelings, we would make sense of anokhi behaving out of her character for the time being. ( I really really hope her behaviour of enjoying luxury is for the time being only; it wouldn’t make sense if it is stretched)


This is the reason I was so upset when they were showing her falling in love (I still am tbh)

It really seems that writers are portraying ki okay shaurya has now fallen in love (which was shown gradually) so let’s just make anokhi fall in love in one episode since he has, not caring enough to show it gradually.


They don’t care enough to give good dialogues to her. Her dialogues in that dinner scene with Babli was way out of her character. ‘Jab tak hai tab tak enjoy karte hain?’ Like what? Aise kon bolta hai?


Negligence of this level really conveys to me from time and again that they don’t care about anokhi whatsoever.


Just look at the dialogues of shaurya and then at anokhi’s, Zameen aasman ka antar hai dono mein.


Even Babli’s dialogues are much better than anokhi’s (though her ahir dialogues are still bad)


Idk, is it so hard to write her dialogues? Aren’t they the same people who wrote anokhi’s speech?

That speech was so good, that if I have to make a list of best dialogues in saakk, I will first end up listing the speech, it was that brilliant. Pata nahi kya ho gaya makers ko. I hope they understand this in time that people love jugni anokhi and she better be intact if the essence of the show is to be retained.

Edited by EternalSoul17 - 4 years ago
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Posted: 4 years ago
#32

Originally posted by: shahsb_26


We can cut some slack here.... Anokhi knows how to break barriers and she had done that when she escaped from Kapoorthala to Chandigarh not from there to Goa behind the man who was enjoying dinner with his ex lover night before. But fine, love is blind and irrational... Plus bit of guilt trip (undoubtedly she was given terrible dialogues of revenge and manipulation night before... She was made to seem wrong for being upset about seeing ShaSha)... Anyways that's the different discussion....

Why should Anokhi not start showing her joy towards the luxurious life? Because this has been given to her by rich in love boyfriend and not something like her hard earned life ... That her rich lover is trying to show.. How does it matter?

Again only my opinion, her mother had to go through a lot to put Anokhi where she is... Astha had to get shot, Babli had to face wrath from Vineet and her mil... Khair Babli is here sharing the fortune.. But what about her mother... For once, think how long has it been we have seen her even talk to her mother or sharing the bond? She Nikki spends her time in luxurious resort munching delicacies sent by rich boyfriend and basking in his attention .. Her own mother or Astha or had Babli not followed might still be in misery... That's where I say her reactions and actions are completely misfit for where she was back in time... This Anokhi seems to careless about anything but Shaurya... Thank god Babli is here to put her in place! Hence, the life that she is enjoying needs to be earned by herself through hardwork (or marrying Shaurya maybe if that's what makers want to showsmiley36).


So I am a bit confused as to what the implication by the bolded lines is. Does that mean that because Anokhi has received all of this from her family, she should be indebted to them? She cannot enjoy anything in her life because Babli, her mother, Aastha went through a lot to bring her here? In that case, what about when she dropped all her studies to go looking for Aastha? Was that also inconsiderate of her mother and sister who had worked so hard to get her to where she is? Or is it only because Shaurya is a man and she is going after him that this becomes an issue? Also why are we assuming that Anokhi must sacrifice her entire life in order to save her mother and sister? Are we looking for another mahaan FL who puts everyone's problems on her head?

Anokhi has consistently been shown to be working hard just so that she can bring her mother and sister out of their misery. She had shouldered the burden of their pain and they have always been her strength but also her weakness. She only accepted getting married because her mother was being thrown out of the house. Whenever she knows about what is happening with Babli, she has consistently tried to help her by standing up for her and convincing her to leave. And precisely because she knows that they might need financial support, she has been studying hard and doing everything she can for them. However that does not mean that she must stop living her life or enjoying pleasures afforded to her only because her sister and her mother have it worse. If she is in love and is enjoying that feeling (and being happy for the first time in her life freely might I add since her whole life has been spent fighting one battle after another), then I'm happy for her. That she finally gets to experience what it means to be doted on since until now, she has never received that type of love. If that's wrong, then should we similarly blame Babli for falling in love with Vicky, rather than worrying about her mother and sister who were being abused at home? Why should Babli not have been a stronger person to fight for her mother and sister? Or is it precisely because Anokhi is stronger that she bears the unequal burden of fighting for everyone's fights?


No, she should not throw it in the pool, she could least return it politely and tell Shaurya she will accept this later on when relationship is little more serious and some time has passed. Hearing I Love you with true feeling in itself is a gift. These things can wait... Shaurya who is changed person could understand her reluctance and respect her decision! First clear to point that self respect should be ahead even when two people are in relationship. That's not about ego here... It's about how people would see their love... I am sure... Some may feel.. Why should they care about the world... Well head back to library scene... It's about Respect...

Remember the comment of gold digger that Shaurya used in library... Didn't he mention something like... If you keep using people.. You will never get respect? Haan haan... I know I know.. Anokhi isn't using Shaurya (though pathetically scripted dialogue did say... Mauka hai.. Le lete hai.. Aisi life jeene ka..)... But not everyone would understand that! Shaurya's view has changed... He knows Anokhi isn't the one after such opportunities... But what about everyone else? Yes... Everyone matters and not just Shaurya's views... Respect is something you earn from the world though only few would matter... But for sake of his family who clearly does not like her.. Hence, strictly in my opinion, they should tone down her basking in attention wala feeling a bit...

I don't think Anokhi was anamored by the fact that it was an expensive gift as much as the fact that he gave her something that she pointed out that she liked. If Babli had given her this gift, would it have been a problem as well? Or again is the problem that it's coming from a man that she loves that makes it a problem? And if so, how do we distinguish betwen her sister who loves her and a man that loves her? And why should we?

@bold I feel like the library scene was trying to show us the exact opposite of what is being said. The library scene was not meant to show us that Anokhi needs to be mindful of how people will perceive her actions and change them accordingly. Rather the library scene shows that people who have terrible and regressive views about women always will, regardless of whether or not someone provides them with reason. As a sidenote, I don't think anyone's actions should be called "providing reason" because that again is victim blaming. How is this any different than society telling someone who is wearing revealing clothes that it's their fault because they should have known better they should have catered to the perceptions of others? So Anokhi should not have to change her behavior regardless of what other people will think because it's their mindset that needs to change, not her behavior. Maybe the point is that, well we can't change society and therefore if she wants respect, she has to play within the bounds of societal implications. But Anokhi has always been shown to throw it back in society's face. Regardless of what people say about her, she has topped in SIAC. Her intellect alone will earn her respect and that does not mean that she has to cater to the regressive views of society and change her behavior just because someone might interpret her actions as taking advantage of him. Because if that's the case, then Anokhi shouldn't have accepted Ahir's help either. She shouldn't accept the help of any man because society will always label a woman who accepts the help of a man as "loose character" or someone who is "taking advantage"


Babli cannot blame him till that's explicit... Devi can definitely blame Anokhi for whatever character sketch they have given Nikki in Goa... Because Nikki is literally spending Saberwal Ka paisa on her luxurious life... Shaurya hasn't tried getting too physical yet for Babli to comment... And second Babli's concern is that Shaurya might not be as serious as Anokhi can get...

Devi has been shown to blame Nikki with or without any fault of her own. She has blamed her for taking advantage of their family when they tried to falsely frame her for the rustication and when she was staying with Aastha in Shaan's house. Also I return to my point above about changing one's behavior just because people who have the wrong mindset don't misunderstand.

My response in purple to a few points you made and I guess we are seeing the track differently, especially considering we are only just seeing the start of it and Anokhi continues to give it back to Shaurya when he is wrong (i.e. when she gave it back to him about her taste in clothing).

Edited by infinitie - 4 years ago

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: infinitie

My response in purple to a few points you made and I guess we are seeing the track differently, especially considering we are only just seeing the start of it and Anokhi continues to give it back to Shaurya when he is wrong (i.e. when she gave it back to him about her taste in clothing).

Wonderful post.

Just one more thing, she did not fell in love with SS seeing his money, so she can stop working hard and enjoy her status from rags to riches.

Also, if a girl's boyfriend can afford high priced things, it's not her fault right.

I am sure she will continue to work hard and make a position in society for herself.

Also, being in your 20's everyone has a right to loosen up a little, enjoy one's life alongside making your career. We all have done that and if given a chance, we all like to enjoy ourselves a little esp. if it's our birthday.

Also, for Shaurya when he can afford it why will he not spend it on his loved ones. We all try to get the best for our loved ones.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: Avichi_preeran

Wonderful post.

Just one more thing, she did not fell in love with SS seeing his money, so she can stop working hard and enjoy her status from rags to riches.

Also, if a girl's boyfriend can afford high priced things, it's not her fault right.

I am sure she will continue to work hard and make a position in society for herself.

Also, being in your 20's everyone has a right to loosen up a little, enjoy one's life alongside making your career. We all have done that and if given a chance, we all like to enjoy ourselves a little esp. if it's our birthday.

Also, for Shaurya when he can afford it why will he not spend it on his loved ones. We all try to get the best for our loved ones.

Yes!!! I wholesale retween everything that you've said here 👏 Anokhi has never been shown to compromise on what she wants from life and will continue to work hard, regardless of whether she is in love or not.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: EternalSoul17

I think the reason for her seeming out of character is not much her actions but rushing of her falling in love phase and the overall story and also very (like extremely) poor written dialogues for anokhi.


If I concentrate on her actions (except her coming to Goa, but I won’t count that)

She seems like a teenager experiencing her first love and wanting to just enjoy the special feeling that her to be bf is making her feel. I think she isn’t thinking much about money with respect to shaurya because of being on cloud nine.

But, she is the same anokhi like how with ahir she refused, so her self respect is still intact.


But, the thing is We (or I atleast) are not able to connect to that very love ka fever that is making her do such things, They should have shown it more gradually, a step by step process to make us connect with her side.

Once we would have connected with the extent of her feelings, we would make sense of anokhi behaving out of her character for the time being. ( I really really hope her behaviour of enjoying luxury is for the time being only; it wouldn’t make sense if it is stretched)


This is the reason I was so upset when they were showing her falling in love (I still am tbh)

It really seems that writers are portraying ki okay shaurya has now fallen in love (which was shown gradually) so let’s just make anokhi fall in love in one episode since he has, not caring enough to show it gradually.


They don’t care enough to give good dialogues to her. Her dialogues in that dinner scene with Babli was way out of her character. ‘Jab tak hai tab tak enjoy karte hain?’ Like what? Aise kon bolta hai?


Negligence of this level really conveys to me from time and again that they don’t care about anokhi whatsoever.


Just look at the dialogues of shaurya and then at anokhi’s, Zameen aasman ka antar hai dono mein.


Even Babli’s dialogues are much better than anokhi’s (though her ahir dialogues are still bad)


Idk, is it so hard to write her dialogues? Aren’t they the same people who wrote anokhi’s speech?

That speech was so good, that if I have to make a list of best dialogues in saakk, I will first end up listing the speech, it was that brilliant. Pata nahi kya ho gaya makers ko. I hope they understand this in time that people love jugni anokhi and she better be intact if the essence of the show is to be retained.


This is exactly major problem for me is that inconsistency!

I always thought how Anokhi had so many reasons to fall in love with Shaurya... And how she has always understood him beyond what he said... I really hoped that makers would have focused on showing her developing some feelings around same time Shaurya did... Like think about how his words affect her so much that she was ready to leave everything - her very dream - here. I am just disappointed with the way it is executed...

If she had to reflect on her words she said to Shaurya... On their date... It was kind of rushed in first 10-15 mins of episode... After speaking to Kanchan and Reema! There was a flight time na... Give her some screen space...let her have Flashbacks and show some scenes where she is regretting telling those mean things to Shaurya... (it's all another case, her dialogues even during angry wala confession didn't make sense... Whereas she had better points for argument.. She went to revenge game)

Her enjoying her life is absolutely fine... Basking in attention is fine... Just that her dialogues never makes sense to me... I have no issues with Kanchan providing Anokhi with flight and hotel... Afterall she came here for Shaurya... I have issue with the speed with which they are showing her changing thoughts... But her wanting to stay without planning further funds, and all is absurd... But OK fine.. Covid hai... Time nai tha... Kar do jo karna hai...

But aise Mein bhi how is Shaurya so perfectly presented as character?

Shaurya had phase where he was angry, sad, happy to see Anokhi, disappointed when she left and him blushing makes so much more sense than Anokhi behaving in similar pattern... And similar intensity...

I understand show was to be written only to explore depth of Shaurya's character.. But now toh story is supposed to be Shaurya and Anokhi na...

In the process... I do see that fire missing from first episode... But I am okay to put that in the back burner for now...

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: infinitie

My response in purple to a few points you made and I guess we are seeing the track differently, especially considering we are only just seeing the start of it and Anokhi continues to give it back to Shaurya when he is wrong (i.e. when she gave it back to him about her taste in clothing).

Hey, good to see you after long on the main forum. I liked your perspectives on the different aspects of the show. I feel many other interesting posters are missing. It is good to see different views on the same subject.

Anyways, regarding this topic, I think different people had different expectations from the show. For some they are met and for some they aren't. That is why such critical posts are made. While I will honestly admit that I am not watching the show at the moment (and my reason is entirely different from the rest). And sorry for putting forth my views without even watching. I am myself divided regarding Anokhi's actions. While I have a problem in her rushing to Goa to pacify a petulant Shaurya, because I think her reaction was justified ( not the dialogues), I don't have much of a problem with her accepting gifts from Shaurya because he is her lover now. Hotel stay, I don't know but if I were in her place I might have hesitated before taking a favour from Kanchan. Rest, I think it is the need of the hour to keep the story as entertaining as possible in these difficult times and any amount of serialistic license can be taken for giving cute scenes of the leads.

I do hope neither Shaurya nor Anokhi have changed in their basic nature and somewhere a misogynist is still lurking inside him ( even love cannot change a person so easily) which will be the cause of conflict between them in future and which actually makes the story more interesting IMO.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: Avichi_preeran

Wonderful post.

Just one more thing, she did not fell in love with SS seeing his money, so she can stop working hard and enjoy her status from rags to riches.

Also, if a girl's boyfriend can afford high priced things, it's not her fault right.

I am sure she will continue to work hard and make a position in society for herself.

Also, being in your 20's everyone has a right to loosen up a little, enjoy one's life alongside making your career. We all have done that and if given a chance, we all like to enjoy ourselves a little esp. if it's our birthday.

Also, for Shaurya when he can afford it why will he not spend it on his loved ones. We all try to get the best for our loved ones.

literally love this and you !!! There is no harm in accepting gifts from a loved one.


I also want to point out to everyone that is stuck on this whole her falling in love too fast. Everyone experiences love differently. So if she did fall in love with the first man that walked into her life, that is not her fault. You love who you love. So the way she is acting and responding is completely natural to her.


As for her dialogs that are written for her.... what do you expect from a girl that is in her late teens, early twenties? Comparing her lines to a MAN is not even justified, like you can't compare the two.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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I don't know why... I find anokhi irritating now days.

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literally love this and you !!! There is no harm in accepting gifts from a loved one.


I also want to point out to everyone that is stuck on this whole her falling in love too fast. Everyone experiences love differently. So if she did fall in love with the first man that walked into her life, that is not her fault. You love who you love. So the way she is acting and responding is completely natural to her.


As for her dialogs that are written for her.... what do you expect from a girl that is in her late teens, early twenties? Comparing her lines to a MAN is not even justified, like you can't compare the two.

Hey, thanks :)

Glad that you are back so many people were missing you here

Although I haven't interacted with you before but I have seen so many people missing you.

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Originally posted by: Avichi_preeran

Hey, thanks :)

Glad that you are back so many people were missing you here

Although I haven't interacted with you before but I have seen so many people missing you.

hahaha thanks! :)

The last couple days, I felt the need to come back.

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