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Pallavi doesnt explain herself neither at home nor at shop..for everything its badme batavoongi or sorry dher hogayi..Even today, you cant sense how the opposite person mood is?

Women empowerment in my opinion itself is a wrong word. Women can help themselves if they want to, not by others. Be the change. That is always what I feel.

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@bold - so rightly said!! Women can help themselves if they want to and not by others. Be the Change... 👍🏼

I also always wondered why doesn't Pallavi ever have time to tell the truth or explain herself when questioned by her family?? Guess, ITV rules...

they have shown that people who shout women empowerment are not NECESSARILY FOR women empowerment... this particular agency is there for people to fulfill their agenda...they were working for sulochna and glad they showed that instead of actual real people shouting slogans. we do have corruption everywhere so why expect truthful people. some are good but they are very few..sadly

Originally posted by: musicalstorm

Are they showing woman empowerment or they insulting women?

Raghav gussa nahi hoyega to kya hoga

Originally posted by: CookiesNCream

Pallavi got a bit impulsive today coz it is frightening to see a bunch of mean women talking rubbish and possibly trying to hurt her too. Hope she sits down and realises that Raghav is speaking the truth. Which hopefully, we will get to know soon in the upcoming episodes

My thoughts on your last line:-

It's not just about treating a widow but any women in general. Being a widow is just a change in the marital status and not some illness. To treat them in a special way also puts them under pressure. Sometimes people really wish to be treated in a normal way and not receive any special attention or care.

I’ve been thinking about something along these lines @bold.

Usually, in serials, the boys have to learn and mature but here it’s Pallavi. I don’t think the show realized the reverse tv gender roles they have. My friend and I were talking generally the other day that a female’s life usually follows under her parents’ care, then they might be in a relationship and then marraige followed by kids and so on. I’ve been lucky to be able to find myself but I still am working on my career and living with my parents. My friend is married to her long-time boyfriend but wished she had a moment to live alone supporting herself, and just grow individually/ have time to herself. I guess that “answerable only to myself” freedom.

Pallavi, to me, is someone who has always been defined by someone or something else. She might be an adult but she’s been kept in her teenage mindset. She might be a working woman but she isn’t able to be on her own or make her own decisions. She’s answerable to everyone and told that it’s proper to fit the expectations and roles set by others. If she doesn’t then there’s a psychological condition of negative punishment (remove something to instill a punishment. Yday that was “ignore her and she’ll learn what she did is wrong or whatever”). Even in yday’s episode ... she couldn’t easily move into a hotel or something to get her space - it seemed her ability to leave was possible bc her brother was there.

This is why I think RR is an important person for her .. he’s subtlety the supportive type. He doesn’t do things behind her back (like Rambo dad cancelling the mall thing, approaching RR & Krishna behind her back to find out details or even her MIL who made her remove the Mehndi), he’s direct. He tells her his thoughts and unknowingly - he’s a great communicator despite his “I dont give a F” attitude. Previously, she never spoke up but now she is. The next step to finding a voice is learning how to use it. So I hope this frustrating growth period comes to an end soon.

I also feel like she might appreciate Raghav differently when he clears her name (as long as nothing else gets complicated in the process of MU clear up).

Originally posted by: CookiesNCream

Pallavi got a bit impulsive today coz it is frightening to see a bunch of mean women talking rubbish and possibly trying to hurt her too. Hope she sits down and realises that Raghav is speaking the truth. Which hopefully, we will get to know soon in the upcoming episodes

My thoughts on your last line:-

It's not just about treating a widow but any women in general. Being a widow is just a change in the marital status and not some illness. To treat them in a special way also puts them under pressure. Sometimes people really wish to be treated in a normal way and not receive any special attention or care.

I understand your indignation towards those women bunch and the Deshmukh family! It's just that you had mentioned "Is this the way you treat a widow?" is where I felt addressing that it is not just being a widow your case should hold valid but for every women in general :) My intention is to not hurt or offend your opinion:)

Originally posted by: moksha89

I’ve been thinking about something along these lines @bold.

Usually, in serials, the boys have to learn and mature but here it’s Pallavi. I don’t think the show realized the reverse tv gender roles they have. My friend and I were talking generally the other day that a female’s life usually follows under her parents’ care, then they might be in a relationship and then marraige followed by kids and so on. I’ve been lucky to be able to find myself but I still am working on my career and living with my parents. My friend is married to her long-time boyfriend but wished she had a moment to live alone supporting herself, and just grow individually/ have time to herself. I guess that “answerable only to myself” freedom.

Pallavi, to me, is someone who has always been defined by someone or something else. She might be an adult but she’s been kept in her teenage mindset. She might be a working woman but she isn’t able to be on her own or make her own decisions. She’s answerable to everyone and told that it’s proper to fit the expectations and roles set by others. If she doesn’t then there’s a psychological condition of negative punishment (remove something to instill a punishment. Yday that was “ignore her and she’ll learn what she did is wrong or whatever”). Even in yday’s episode ... she couldn’t easily move into a hotel or something to get her space - it seemed her ability to leave was possible bc her brother was there.

This is why I think RR is an important person for her .. he’s subtlety the supportive type. He doesn’t do things behind her back (like Rambo dad cancelling the mall thing, approaching RR & Krishna behind her back to find out details or even her MIL who made her remove the Mehndi), he’s direct. He tells her his thoughts and unknowingly - he’s a great communicator despite his “I dont give a F” attitude. Previously, she never spoke up but now she is. The next step to finding a voice is learning how to use it. So I hope this frustrating growth period comes to an end soon.

I also feel like she might appreciate Raghav differently when he clears her name (as long as nothing else gets complicated in the process of MU clear up).

Loved reading your post!

@Bold: I just love the way you have written this for Pallavi! So apt!!

Originally posted by: musicalstorm

Again in the shop scene, those women looked so very very creepy. They are meant to protect and empower woman, but see they are humiliating Pallavi, does this happens in real life.

Now Raghav enters and he asks the women to go. And Pallavi bewajah phir se baras padi. If he has called all the woman to trouble Pallavi, then why will he ask them to leave. I think Pallavi should use all of her energy to shout in the family instead of Raghav

She is going and see all the shameless people, they didn't even attempt to stop her except Nikhil. Sharda scolded everybody for not respecting Pallavi, but after she was busy in the Swagat.

Pallavi doesn't deserve to stay in this family.

IS THIS THE WAY YOU TREAT A WIDOW?

Originally posted by: moksha89

I’ve been thinking about something along these lines @bold.

Usually, in serials, the boys have to learn and mature but here it’s Pallavi. I don’t think the show realized the reverse tv gender roles they have. My friend and I were talking generally the other day that a female’s life usually follows under her parents’ care, then they might be in a relationship and then marraige followed by kids and so on. I’ve been lucky to be able to find myself but I still am working on my career and living with my parents. My friend is married to her long-time boyfriend but wished she had a moment to live alone supporting herself, and just grow individually/ have time to herself. I guess that “answerable only to myself” freedom.

Pallavi, to me, is someone who has always been defined by someone or something else. She might be an adult but she’s been kept in her teenage mindset. She might be a working woman but she isn’t able to be on her own or make her own decisions. She’s answerable to everyone and told that it’s proper to fit the expectations and roles set by others. If she doesn’t then there’s a psychological condition of negative punishment (remove something to instill a punishment. Yday that was “ignore her and she’ll learn what she did is wrong or whatever”). Even in yday’s episode ... she couldn’t easily move into a hotel or something to get her space - it seemed her ability to leave was possible bc her brother was there.

This is why I think RR is an important person for her .. he’s subtlety the supportive type. He doesn’t do things behind her back (like Rambo dad cancelling the mall thing, approaching RR & Krishna behind her back to find out details or even her MIL who made her remove the Mehndi), he’s direct. He tells her his thoughts and unknowingly - he’s a great communicator despite his “I dont give a F” attitude. Previously, she never spoke up but now she is. The next step to finding a voice is learning how to use it. So I hope this frustrating growth period comes to an end soon.

I also feel like she might appreciate Raghav differently when he clears her name (as long as nothing else gets complicated in the process of MU clear up).

Very well said. He will take her out of her cage, which is more of a psychological one than a physical one. He's told her that as long as she has all this clutter in her mind, she won't be able to advance and be successful, and he was completely right. I also think a lot of the role reversal here feels organic but ubiquitous enough to feel as if it was planned. Who knows?

Originally posted by: Shabia1

Well said 👍

But the right question is: Is this the way a widow treats herself?

Deshmukh's are morons but pallavi is equally at fault

Even Pallavi treats herself as a Bichaari and Sushil Naari in front of them.

You're right

Originally posted by: moksha89

I’ve been thinking about something along these lines @bold.

Usually, in serials, the boys have to learn and mature but here it’s Pallavi. I don’t think the show realized the reverse tv gender roles they have. My friend and I were talking generally the other day that a female’s life usually follows under her parents’ care, then they might be in a relationship and then marraige followed by kids and so on. I’ve been lucky to be able to find myself but I still am working on my career and living with my parents. My friend is married to her long-time boyfriend but wished she had a moment to live alone supporting herself, and just grow individually/ have time to herself. I guess that “answerable only to myself” freedom.

Pallavi, to me, is someone who has always been defined by someone or something else. She might be an adult but she’s been kept in her teenage mindset. She might be a working woman but she isn’t able to be on her own or make her own decisions. She’s answerable to everyone and told that it’s proper to fit the expectations and roles set by others. If she doesn’t then there’s a psychological condition of negative punishment (remove something to instill a punishment. Yday that was “ignore her and she’ll learn what she did is wrong or whatever”). Even in yday’s episode ... she couldn’t easily move into a hotel or something to get her space - it seemed her ability to leave was possible bc her brother was there.

This is why I think RR is an important person for her .. he’s subtlety the supportive type. He doesn’t do things behind her back (like Rambo dad cancelling the mall thing, approaching RR & Krishna behind her back to find out details or even her MIL who made her remove the Mehndi), he’s direct. He tells her his thoughts and unknowingly - he’s a great communicator despite his “I dont give a F” attitude. Previously, she never spoke up but now she is. The next step to finding a voice is learning how to use it. So I hope this frustrating growth period comes to an end soon.

I also feel like she might appreciate Raghav differently when he clears her name (as long as nothing else gets complicated in the process of MU clear up).

I absolutely love what you have said. I have been answerable to myself since moving away from uni but what I found, much to my surprise, is that not every girl wants that. I have some cousins and friends (both Indian/non Indian) who are more than happy to be under parents care, go straight into relationship/marriage etc and be fully supported throughout. Neither is wrong as each to their own. In Pallavi’s case, I don’t think she sees herself as poor me at all like people keep saying, she is genuinely good hearted and eager to please all. There is a self sufficient person inside that needs to be nurtured, it’s not natural to everyone and it takes the right environment to grow. By her getting away from the in-laws she will thrive. It would actually be great if she didn’t go straight into marriage with Raghav and her character was developed outside of that before marriage but that won’t happen.

Originally posted by: CookiesNCream

Pallavi got a bit impulsive today coz it is frightening to see a bunch of mean women talking rubbish and possibly trying to hurt her too. Hope she sits down and realises that Raghav is speaking the truth. Which hopefully, we will get to know soon in the upcoming episodes

My thoughts on your last line:-

It's not just about treating a widow but any women in general. Being a widow is just a change in the marital status and not some illness. To treat them in a special way also puts them under pressure. Sometimes people really wish to be treated in a normal way and not receive any special attention or care.

I mean generally but keeping the show in the context, I used Widow.

And your bolded likes are much true