Ghum Hain kisikey Pyaar Mein WU and Daily discussion thread no 14. - Page 26

Originally posted by: maahi11

he he he, virat vorat mujhe sai nay ulta latkake meri bezzati ki hai🤣

Originally posted by: sukri

That's why Ekta started Altbalaji.

And you the 18+thread 🤣

Trueee 😎. Stress relief wala thread

I literally want Virat to fall in Sai's feet atleast for 5 days. Sai to ignore him even after the goli incident. He f**ing has to earn Sai's trust, love, respect whatever and he has to change his nature, though it's not done easily, he needs to change his behaviour, nature and thoughts.

How regressive the line "choot" sounded I can't even you tell. It felt like some crass hero telling this and all

Originally posted by: asmi_joya

See Lakshmi I understand both of your points here about Virat unleashing his side when it comes to Sai. But for me as a woman that is problematic. When you have controlled all your emotions towards one part of your family, it all needs to come out and will come out for one person in abundance, be it love or anger. To be loved and then to be treated in anger in that way with so much extremity is something that I find problematic. Just for instance thinking on the precap,

Being a police officer, Virat very well knows how much threat is posed on a woman who is at the streets at night. Forget about an angry husband , is he being a responsible officer, whose duty is to protect the city , by letting out a woman of the house to fetch for herself, knowing very well that she is not well versed with the city. Even if she is, is it responsible of him to let that happen? That's plain inhuman. For me this is where he fails as an officer, this is where they butcher his character where he was to chose farz over jazbaat always. Jazbaat always wins over Farz when it comes to sai and family. His dialogues chut de rakhiye , ab dekhiye main kya karta hun are disappointing if I look at it from a woman's perspective, he is being a chauvinist there. But him letting the lady of his house out in the is his failure as a dutiful officer. He failed today many times as a police officer , not as a brother or husband for me.

They are life partners, they would fight, at times fight where they would reach at the brink of losing it all. Is he going to behave everytime this way, whenever he loses his sh*t. Takes me to Sai's dialogues, aap kuch aur , aapka gussa aapka asli roop dikhata hai? I wanted to contemplate on that .. does his anger really brings out the real him that is extremely dangerous and scary?

Hey, my comment was only a reply to the question. It is not a justification to Virat's actions or anger. I was only trying to show why the difference.

To be frank, even if I can understand why, his actions are not justified and I do not approve of his anger or his behaviour out of anger.

I just replied to your comment in your other post and found this notification.

Today he was not just angry, he was enraged. Whatever reasons he can have for his anger, not letting her in was not something I expected.

I thought that he wont turn her out of the house and here he has not even let her in.

Sai is wrong, that doesn't mean that she is treated like this. Where did his promise go now? Her Dad asked him to take care of her and this is how he does? He fought with himself as how to fulfil Kamal's promise, he broke the promise he had made to Pakhi by marrying Sai only to be able to take care of her. Then all those turmoil, that promise which is the reason for all this chaos, is broken for this? I don't even care whether he loves her or not, whether he wants to make her his wife or not, this is something that always runs in my mind. I just want him to fulfill his duty, his responsibility.

Yes, she went behind her back, I understand, but would he have done the same if Pakhi or anyone else had done? He called Sai his family, asked her to accept him as her family. Is this what one to do a family member? I am made to think if he ever considered her his family now.

Also, if he felt betrayed, can't he had asked for divorce after she returned home? Is that not what anyone would do when there is a really big issue between couples?

As much as I support him, I also know where all he went wrong and saw a few things coming. It is not because of KD or other versions, it is only because of Virat.

To tell you frankly, I have never felt a need for him to get married to her, never was for the proposal. Who sets such conditions? I felt that it was very unfair right that day. He knew her position and he himself said that if you can stop the marriage, wouldn't you have stopped it, why would you come to me asking me to stop it.

So he knew Sai had to succumb to circumstances and get married to him. How fair is it to marry such a young girl, who had just turned an orphan saying I can never become your husband and this is not an actual marriage, but an arrangement for me to fulfill my responsibility.

See, I keep both the characters separate and look and assess their actions. Just because she is or has been wrong, his misdeeds cannot be ignored or forgotten. I think the forum has to look at their actions independently sometimes. The very basic, fundamental things are going wrong. That has to be condemned.

One's mistake cannot be used as a defense to another's mistakes. He can grow angry, react, but not this.

About this family and his partial behavior, I think we need to have it as a separate discussion. I have never been happy. You have mistaken me. I only share my understanding of why he behaves that way, that's not a justification to his behavior.

Originally posted by: laksh

Hey, my comment was only a reply to the question. It is not a justification to Virat's actions or anger. I was only trying to show why the difference.

To be frank, even if I can understand why, his actions are not justified and I do not approve of his anger or his behaviour out of anger.

I just replied to your comment in your other post and found this notification.

Today he was not just angry, he was enraged. Whatever reasons he can have for his anger, not letting her in was not something I expected.

I thought that he wont turn her out of the house and here he has not even let her in.

Sai is wrong, that doesn't mean that she is treated like this. Where did his promise go now? Her Dad asked him to take care of her and this is how he does? He fought with himself as how to fulfil Kamal's promise, he broke the promise he had made to Pakhi by marrying Sai only to be able to take care of her. Then all those turmoil, that promise which is the reason for all this chaos, is broken for this? I don't even care whether he loves her or not, whether he wants to make her his wife or not, this is something that always runs in my mind. I just want him to fulfill his duty, his responsibility.

Yes, she went behind her back, I understand, but would he have done the same if Pakhi or anyone else had done? He called Sai his family, asked her to accept him as her family. Is this what one to do a family member? I am made to think if he ever considered her his family now.

Also, if he felt betrayed, can't he had asked for divorce after she returned home? Is that not what anyone would do when there is a really big issue between couples?

As much as I support him, I also know where all he went wrong and saw a few things coming. It is not because of KD or other versions, it is only because of Virat.

To tell you frankly, I have never felt a need for him to get married to her, never was for the proposal. Who sets such conditions? I felt that it was very unfair right that day. He knew her position and he himself said that if you can stop the marriage, wouldn't you have stopped it, why would you come to me asking me to stop it.

So he knew Sai had to succumb to circumstances and get married to him. How fair is it to marry such a young girl, who had just turned an orphan saying I can never become your husband and this is not an actual marriage, but an arrangement for me to fulfill my responsibility.

See, I keep both the characters separate and look and assess their actions. Just because she is or has been wrong, his misdeeds cannot be ignored or forgotten. I think the forum has to look at their actions independently sometimes. The very basic, fundamental things are going wrong. That has to be condemned.

One's mistake cannot be used as a defense to another's mistakes. He can grow angry, react, but not this.

About this family and his partial behavior, I think we need to have it as a separate discussion. I have never been happy. You have mistaken me. I only share my understanding of why he behaves that way, that's not a justification to his behavior.

I know I know, I was just saying that his behaviour is problematic. Was not saying you are justifying.

You know at times I feel he does have it in him that he has done ehsaan on Sai and hence Sai needs to behave in a certain way, Sai needs to do as he says and Sai ko chut nahi dena chaiye jyada... No he is not her family, this establishes that he is not her family. Family members dont behave this way and we all know he would not have done the same to Pakhi or Karishma, forget about the elders. We already have an example on MahaShivratri episodes, where the same Devi Tai's life was spoiled by the elders and all he chose to do was, look in the future and not past. Tai lost 10 years of her life, of her child's growing years.. and all he said was, chalo kal ki or chalte hain, and Sai cant even enter the house. Today I was disappointed in Virat and the CVs who showed a different image of Virat to me and pulled me in the show.. He has successfully established himself as a MCP.

Originally posted by: asmi_joya

I know I know, I was just saying that his behaviour is problematic. Was not saying you are justifying.

You know at times I feel he does have it him that he has done ehsaan on Sai and hence Sai needs to behave in a certain way, Sai needs to do as he says and Sai ko chut nahi dena chaiye jyada... No he is not her family, this establishes that he is not her family. Family members dont behave this way and we all know he would not have done the same to Pakhi or Karishma, forget about the elders. We already have an example on MahaShivratri episodes, where the same Devi Tai's life was spoiled by the elders and all he chose to do was, look in the future and not past. Tai lost 10 years of her life, of her child's growing years.. and all he said was, chalo kal ki or chalte hain, and Sai cant even enter the house. Today I was disappointed in Virat and the CVs who showed a different image of Virat to me and pulled me in the show.. He has successfully established himself as a MCP.

Btw what did the writer have in mind when they wrote all these? Looks like a sadist.

Originally posted by: laksh

Btw what did the writer have in mind when they wrote all these? Looks like a sadist.

You know in abusive household, the maximum cases are from there, where the girls's parents dont raise voice, when its believed she has nowhere to go, it gets them the license to go with..Girl's parent's not raising voice against the atrocities could be because of many reasons, wither they dont know or they have not been informed. In both cases , it established there is no one to back the girl being tortured. Here deciding to deny food, locking her in the room or letting her stay out whole night will not have any consequences on them as a family, because she has none to come and question her.. Would Virat dare do this if Kamal Joshi was alive. Would CN people dare do it with Pakhi or Sonali? They chose to assault Ashwini and Sai and to some extent Karishma who have no one to fight for them. The writer is not just a sadist , but belongs to the patriarchal society, who believes galat kiya maante hain, but maafi toh maangi.. har koi maafi kaha maangta hai.. Mard maafi kaha maangte hain.. I would rather prefer someone who doesn't apologise but also does not repeat a mistake , sorry would rather say a crime, than someone like what Virat is right now... Assault your wife, say sorry for next few days and again in a moment of anger(which you were informed earlier that you turn in to some other person), repeat the same or even worse.

Originally posted by: asmi_joya

You know in abusive household, the maximum cases are from there, where the girls's parents dont raise voice, when its believed she has nowhere to go, it gets them the license to go with..Girl's parent's not raising voice against the atrocities could be because of many reasons, wither they dont know or they have not been informed. In both cases , it established there is no one to back the girl being tortured. Here deciding to deny food, locking her in the room or letting her stay out whole night will not have any consequences on them as a family, because she has none to come and question her.. Would Virat dare do this if Kamal Joshi was alive. Would CN people dare do it with Pakhi or Sonali? They chose to assault Ashwini and Sai and to some extent Karishma who have no one to fight for them. The writer is not just a sadist , but belongs to the patriarchal society, who believes galat kiya maante hain, but maafi toh maangi.. har koi maafi kaha maangta hai.. Mard maafi kaha maangte hain.. I would rather prefer someone who doesn't apologise but also does not repeat a mistake , sorry would rather say a crime, than someone like what Virat is right now... Assault your wife, say sorry for next few days and again in a moment of anger(which you were informed earlier that you turn in to some other person), repeat the same or even worse.

What a coincidence, I was just discussing about this in another thread. Someone had even asked about apology in edt.

Forget Virat, in real life too, just telling sorry and repeating mistakes is not right. Apology is when someone realises their mistake, accepts they are wrong, actually correct it and not repeat it. I know many who show that they are feeling worry through their actions, through some gestures.

But when I say not repeat it, many fail in that and that is when they are given a chance. It depends on the magnitude of the mistake. Based on the magnitude of the mistake that they have been repeating, we can decide if one can be given a chance or not.

I understand the abusive household. But when they showed how good Virat is, what did the maker try to show through such actions?

"The writer is not just a sadist , but belongs to the patriarchal society, who believes galat kiya maante hain, but maafi toh maangi"

Whatever society they belong to, why write such a story in first place? It is like you build a character, establish his reputation and demean it, turning him into this?

What you are saying might be true, but I think this would have happened even if Sai had a family. Even if Kamal was alive, Virat would have done this.

He didn't think that Sai is alone, she has no one and who will question me if I turn her out of the house. He is doing it only out of anger. His actions are arising out of anger, rage, where he has no control over his emotions. He hasn't thought through anything.

That is where he is going wrong. It wouldn't have been better if he had divorced her, got her a room in a hostel, whenever he can legally.

Guys, I am taking a break from the forums , won’t be as active as now.

Will drop by to read updates but won’t be as active as before. Next two weeks are super crucial for me. Will resume with full josh after ❤️

Thanks in advance for the updates siya and deepiku

Originally posted by: laksh

What a coincidence, I was just discussing about this in another thread. Someone had even asked about apology in edt.

Forget Virat, in real life too, just telling sorry and repeating mistakes is not right. Apology is when someone realises their mistake, accepts they are wrong, actually correct it and not repeat it. I know many who show that they are feeling worry through their actions, through some gestures.

But when I say not repeat it, many fail in that and that is when they are given a chance. It depends on the magnitude of the mistake. Based on the magnitude of the mistake that they have been repeating, we can decide if one can be given a chance or not.

I understand the abusive household. But when they showed how good Virat is, what did the maker try to show through such actions?

"The writer is not just a sadist , but belongs to the patriarchal society, who believes galat kiya maante hain, but maafi toh maangi"

What you are saying might be true, but I think this would have happened even if Sai had a family. Even if Kamal was alive, Virat would have done this.

He didn't think that Sai is alone, she has no one and who will question me if I turn her out of the house. He is doing it only out of anger. His actions are arising out of anger, rage, where he has no control over his emotions. He hasn't thought through anything.

That is where he is going wrong. It wouldn't have been better if he had divorced her, got her a room in a hostel, whenever he can legally.

I kept on saying, my bashing Virat has nothing to do with my love for Sai, but what the character has been shown to become now. Being an IPS officer, he is abusing his wife. Are these not the same cases, that gets reported in his office on a daily basis, and they go to arrest the abusers with just the FIR and no proofs?

Because they dont just belong to the society but belong to that faith system and belief system, where when a man apologises for abusing the wife, he should be forgiven, because even after being a man he apologised.

I do think if Kamal Joshi was alive, she would not have been treated this way by the family or Virat...He has no one to answer, except himself now . He would have to give his answers, if her baba was alive and gave Sai's hand in his to take care of her.. He would have to face is mentor then.. RIght now there is no one significant in Sai's life who can question him.. He does not care about Usha's Maushi existence in moments like these and he is too quick to ask her to not interfere.. Hardly does it when Pakhi gets in between his fight with Sai, supporting him.

His anger also comes from the fact that he thinks, Sai belongs to him and I have given her so much chhut..She needs to be controlled.. It comes from the belief system he has grown in.. He was proud when his baba was telling his Aai during hand hold scene , that she should not stop him as he is doing the right thing after doing so many wrongs..