genuine doubt regarding mental health

usually, when a person is declared physically disable, then the percentage of mobility of that organ or percentage of vision in case of blindness is considered. is it the same for mental illness as well? a person might be suffering from mental illness but depending on the condition, can he be fit to take his own decision?

Originally posted by: raji02

usually, when a person is declared physically disable, then the percentage of mobility of that organ or percentage of vision in case of blindness is considered. is it the same for mental illness as well? a person might be suffering from mental illness but depending on the condition, can he be fit to take his own decision?

I guess Siya posted something regarding this on a thread, I was not available then ,so couldn't react.

Originally posted by: raji02

usually, when a person is declared physically disable, then the percentage of mobility of that organ or percentage of vision in case of blindness is considered. is it the same for mental illness as well? a person might be suffering from mental illness but depending on the condition, can he be fit to take his own decision?

Lagta hai ko Sai ke defense ke liye ready ho raha hai 😉

Sai ko yeh info sms kar dengi ya phir aap khud mandap jaane waali hai 😉

👍🏼 Sai ko kal sahaare ki zaroorat hogi

Originally posted by: laksh

Lagta hai ko Sai ke defense ke liye ready ho raha hai 😉

Sai ko yeh info sms kar dengi ya phir aap khud mandap jaane waali hai 😉

👍🏼 Sai ko kal sahaare ki zaroorat hogi

i did not see the episode , but have read written update. this has been in my mind from long. because devi actually remembers where she met pulkit, also what bk gang has done. she might have forgotten some parts of her life like what she used to study, because she told sai once that she used to go to college. so after reading today’s update wanted to know if it is true.

and as i said earlier, even if devi is totally unfit i support her decision to get devi married because bk is unfit to be guardian to anyone let alone devi. i am just upset that she has not kept virat in loop and because of this problems will arise between them.

Originally posted by: Shristhi2002

I guess Siya posted something regarding this on a thread, I was not available then ,so couldn't react.

i did not read regarding this. i wanted to know if it is medically possible in that way.

It depends

according to the Indian psychiatric journal, the laws made for mentally disabled individuals are archaic dating back to 1950s when treatment wasn’t as advanced as it is today.. many top psychologists and psychiatrists have said the laws are biased against the patients.. a lot of individuals suffering from a mental illness fare better in life than those who don’t.

a simple question, can you tell I have depression, anxiety and ptsd!? No and I don’t let that affect who I am as an individual......

as a person who has depression and ptsd and is on medication I can vouch that with treatment you do become better..

every mental illness is different a person with schizophrenia or bipolar needs different treatment than someone with depression or anxiety..

some illnesses are extreme and need the individual to be institutionalized as they might cause harm to others or themselves but mostly mental illness is manageable with the right treatment and medication..

the brain is a marvelous organ and is capable of many things but we cannot limit a persons ability to their mental illness... many geniuses in the world had some sort of mental disability..

As for Devi tai, I don’t believe she has been given the correct treatment.. her illness stems from separation and post traumatic stress disorder... which was severely affected by the loss of her child..

In these situations an individual should be given love and support as well as immediate psychiatric treatment...

instead she was locked up and given medication which made her sleep... it is also a point to note that not all medications suit an individual it is a lot of trial and error.

Over years the dosage has to decrease and the individual needs to be weened off the medication...

all of this is only possible if the individual is given the right treatment, love, support and care as well their words are heard not brushed off. The biggest mistake chavans make is locking her up, shutting her down and calling her mad...

It makes the person believe they are so...

It won’t be wrong to say that they unlawfully institutionalized her and denied her the right of medical treatment..

This stems from kakus fear that if Devi tai remembers everything she will take action against her for snatching her child and separating her from her husband.

Clearly tai remembers her past but no one ever paid head to it as kaku very smartly twisted the situation in her favour. It was Sai who saw tai as a person and not her illness..

But as for percentage of mobility is concerned with mental illness it becomes biased... people consider you to be unfit and that is why many people hide it.

I always say this the brain is an organ part of our body, like the heart or kidney can develop issues and we get the right treatment the same way the chemicals in our brain might cause imbalance due to unforeseen circumstances and we should get the necessary help...

The stigma around mental illness needs to end and we need to see the individual for who they are not not their illness..

Originally posted by: Svt611

It depends

according to the Indian psychiatric journal, the laws made for mentally disabled individuals are archaic dating back to 1950s when treatment wasn’t as advanced as it is today.. many top psychologists and psychiatrists have said the laws are biased against the patients.. a lot of individuals suffering from a mental illness fare better in life than those who don’t.

a simple question, can you tell I have depression, anxiety and ptsd!? No and I don’t let that affect who I am as an individual......

as a person who has depression and ptsd and is on medication I can vouch that with treatment you do become better..

every mental illness is different a person with schizophrenia or bipolar needs different treatment than someone with depression or anxiety..

some illnesses are extreme and need the individual to be institutionalized as they might cause harm to others or themselves but mostly mental illness is manageable with the right treatment and medication..

the brain is a marvelous organ and is capable of many things but we cannot limit a persons ability to their mental illness... many geniuses in the world had some sort of mental disability..

As for Devi tai, I don’t believe she has been given the correct treatment.. her illness stems from separation and post traumatic stress disorder... which was severely affected by the loss of her child..

In these situations an individual should be given love and support as well as immediate psychiatric treatment...

instead she was locked up and given medication which made her sleep... it is also a point to note that not all medications suit an individual it is a lot of trial and error.

Over years the dosage has to decrease and the individual needs to be weened off the medication...

all of this is only possible if the individual is given the right treatment, love, support and care as well their words are heard not brushed off. The biggest mistake chavans make is locking her up, shutting her down and calling her mad...

It makes the person believe they are so...

It won’t be wrong to say that they unlawfully institutionalized her and denied her the right of medical treatment..

This stems from kakus fear that if Devi tai remembers everything she will take action against her for snatching her child and separating her from her husband.

Clearly tai remembers her past but no one ever paid head to it as kaku very smartly twisted the situation in her favour. It was Sai who saw tai as a person and not her illness..

But as for percentage of mobility is concerned with mental illness it becomes biased... people consider you to be unfit and that is why many people hide it.

I always say this the brain is an organ part of our body, like the heart or kidney can develop issues and we get the right treatment the same way the chemicals in our brain might cause imbalance due to unforeseen circumstances and we should get the necessary help...

The stigma around mental illness needs to end and we need to see the individual for who they are not not their illness..

thank you so much for such a detailed explanation. was wondering if like depression which has varying degrees of severity if it is the same for ptsd as well.

i have read about people from armed forces who have witnessed gruelling crimes suffering from ptsd. in some it might be mild but some tend to end their lives unable to handle it. there are actually veteran centres to cater to people retired from armies in developed nations.

Originally posted by: raji02

thank you so much for such a detailed explanation. was wondering if like depression which has varying degrees of severity if it is the same for ptsd as well.

i have read about people from armed forces who have witnessed gruelling crimes suffering from ptsd. in some it might be mild but some tend to end their lives unable to handle it. there are actually veteran centres to cater to people retired from armies in developed nations.

Yes again the severity of the situation and the circumstances due to which the individual develops an mental illness has to be noted..

a small example of PTSD is my sister.. during the 2015 Nepal earthquake my sister was stuck in Nepal as she was representing India in a soccer tournament... she was 13 years old at the time, she saw many people die infront of her eyes, kids losing their lives who were younger than her.. with no way to contact us in India.. all alone with just her team in a foreign land.. I clearly remember the sleepless night my parents and I had with no news of her from anywhere and I can’t even imagine what those girls went through.. the only way we were to relax was to know she is safe and well.. we waited for them to return the next day thanks to the government for evacuating them on urgent basis.
I remember when they arrived in Delhi, each one of them shaken to the core, young girls aged between 11 and 15.... I remember my sister clinging to my mother and just not saying anything... nothing at all..

I remember how the media hounded them with questions, insensitive questions which no person who has suffered trauma should be asked..

But the trauma of that incident still lingers in her subconscious, she still gets panic attacks when there is a mild earthquake but she is much better than she was during those days and it was only possible with psychiatric and psychological help and medication...

the ability to cope with that situation and trauma was what was needed for her benefit at that time.. today no one can look at her and say she has gone through so much! High achiever in all fields, studying law and psychology.. well versed in politics and a climate activist...

this was only possible because of the right help and because we didn’t stigmatize her struggle and illness..

we never stigmatize an individual with a heart condition so why is a brain illness stigmatized!? That is the question people have to ask... the norms set up by society and the inability to accept an individuals mental illness is what drives them to take their life...

all that person needs is love and support with the right treatment....

Sorry I get a little emotional when it comes to mental health and the stigma around it because I know how it feels to be treated that way...

Originally posted by: Svt611

Yes again the severity of the situation and the circumstances due to which the individual develops an mental illness has to be noted..

a small example of PTSD is my sister.. during the 2015 Nepal earthquake my sister was stuck in Nepal as she was representing India in a soccer tournament... she was 13 years old at the time, she saw many people die infront of her eyes, kids losing their lives who were younger than her.. with no way to contact us in India.. all alone with just her team in a foreign land.. I clearly remover the sleepless night my parents and I had with no news of her from anywhere.. the only way we were to relax was to know she is safe and well.. we waited for them to return the next day thanks to the government for evacuating them on urgent basis. But the trauma of that incident still lingers in her subconscious, she still gets panic attacks when there is a mild earthquake but she is much better than she was during those days and it was only possible with psychiatric and psychological help and medication...

the ability to cope with that situation and trauma was what was needed for her benefit at that time.. today no one can look at her and say she has gone through so much! High achiever in all fields, studying law and psychology.. well versed in politics and a climate activist...

this was only possible because of the right help and because we didn’t stigmatize her struggle and illness..

we never stigmatize an individual with a heart condition so why is a brain illness stigmatized!? That is the question people have to ask... the norms set up by society and the inability to accept an individuals mental illness is what drives them to take their life...

all that person needs is love and support with the right treatment....

thank you so much for sharing yiur sister’s personal experience. yes the stigma with mental illness has to stop. many people due to lack of knowledge do not even know that they are depressed.

i have seen case which is completely opposite to yours. one of my distant relative’s daughter has a daughter who is now 5 yrs old. she is just an year younger than my son. they used to visit our house sometimes since they stayed near. we have always observed that their child behaves somewhat different to other children she plays with. she does not make eye contact, could not talk even at the age of 3, was unable to convey clearly what she wants. i have seen children of her age who are introverts and do not mingle. but did not even seem like an introvert. we have many a times suggested the parents to take her to a psychiatrist so that if she is diagnosed with any issue, they can immediately start treatment to improve. she had her whole life ahead of her to waste due to her parents stupidity. but they never paid heed. one she started going to school, her teachers gave feedback about the same things. but to our utter dismay, they have taken her to a homeopathic doctor. i don’t understand. how can the so called stigma from society ever be more important than our own child? that too when they are totally dependent on us. don’t we take our children to doctor when they get fever? how is it any different?