Kill the killer of trust. - Page 12

Originally posted by: Saichintalli

Hi laksh very well said.. I agree with all these points... I don't know if you mean that I don't like virat being partial towards family in terms of showing anger... but actually I am not... Frankly I can understand the virat who you are talking about... The one who is soft towards everyone and kind of patience with everyone... Remember he even didn't hit jagdhap or amay ( only said justice will be done officially kind of dialogues), I won't expect such person to take drastic steps towards his family... He is person who tries to diffuse the situation or maintain peace but by doing what he thinks right silently like in trip track or admission track.. it's his tactics to handle the situation , and I actually like that...heis good in handling situations that way.. shutting up people with silent yet logical dialogues... I only had very big problem with his is behavior is during Devi and harini matter, he is a person of very good values + IPS officer yet he behaves as if separating mother from daughter or separation husband and wife is not so big issue , it's only Dil ke achee Ghar ke bhade ga purane kayal ka effect hai... That's it... That's one thing for which I really can't justify virat's charector.

While coming to sai, your every point is right... Sai effects him alot, Every thing related to her effects him, her crispyness, happiness, her tears her stubbornness, her bezzathi effects him that tooto the core... ( Small example: during amay track when sonali says Shivani besharamo, he is hurt but when she says sai isse zadha besharam, he closes his eyes with hurt because it's like they are calling him besharam)... And as you mentioned this is common in couple, when coming to couple every thing effects them equally.... And I also mentioned so many times... One thing I won't like in sai is , she just counters Kaku gang and leave but won't think about people who always stand by her... Like in pd sir lunch track I literally felt like she just throwed aai and virat as a food to Kaku gang taunts... Because once she left Kaku Sena will question these people who are always proud of sai, but they won't have any answers, and Kaku gang will just points figures at them.... I really think that alsoadds up to virat anger... Bcoz the one who was always prized is getting pointed that too because of that person who he trusts, loves and always stands by her.and always feels proud off.. Reason : only because sai don't give answers/ info atleast to him or aai... So I can even understand his anger.

But at the same time I won't agree with his act of throwing out of house... Because that is extreme step. as a person how can he behave extremely different with two different people in same situation... As a partner he have the right to feel hurt, feel betrayed but behaving so drastically again I really can't get it...

I don't know if this post make sense at all or not... Wrote everything I got in mind🤣🤣

"I don't know if you mean that I don't like virat being partial towards family in terms of showing anger... but actually I am not."

I meant Notaquitter, Sukri and Muguet. We were having a discussion and shared this view.

I didn't know, what you or Shristhi felt, but added because we have been tagging each other quite often 🤣 and thought will share my views with you guys too.

Throwing out of the house,I too don't want it. And if Virat does 😒. Hope they have changed it.

Originally posted by: laksh

"I don't know if you mean that I don't like virat being partial towards family in terms of showing anger... but actually I am not."

I meant Notaquitter, Sukri and Muguet. We were having a discussion and shared this view.

I didn't know, what you or Shristhi felt, but added because we have been tagging each other quite often 🤣 and thought will share my views with you guys too.

Throwing out of the house,I too don't want it. And if Virat does 😒. Hope they have changed it.

Waise thank you for tagging, I really really liked that post

Originally posted by: laksh

I wanted to reply to this but needed time. Kept searching for this post 😂.

I know, you know the most of it already, but the first few points is something you might want to think. I too don't like him shouting at Sai and have tried to think many times about this. His actions are anyway not justified but the reason is only this.

If you find the post to be too lengthy, please skip to the summary in this post. The heading is in blue font. Have tagged a few friends who have also always had issues with this behavior of Virat.

Please excuse me, if you find some/many of the points repetitive 😳.

The uncontrollable anger that he gets and especially with Sai is because of the below.

He is able to be himself and express himself to Sai. We know how CN is and the way people are.

Virat is conditioned to live in a particular way and the Virat with them is not the actual Virat. He is not a liberated Virat.

Virat with his Aai and Sai is the actual Virat. There are no filters, doesn't need it at all.

With everyone else, he is conditioned to act that way. It is not to maintain an image or anything, he behaves the way, that is expected out of him and he follows it judiciously. Like an army man, one can say. Deviations are never encouraged.

Sai never cared about what others thought. That was totally new to him. He never took the insults at GC seriously, because he was attracted to her courage, her guts, her no filter attitude. So he knows that Sai would also be okay if he behaves freely with her. He knows that she wouldn't judge him.

The Virat at GC who tolerated Sai's behavior was the Virat who is in general. The Virat whom we see fighting or showing anger on Sai or his Aai is the actual Virat. He loves Sai, has faith that she wouldn't mistake him, there is no need to think before he acts with Sai. It is the same with Aai too sometimes.

It is not like rights or liberty, it is the trust and faith in them that they won't judge him and he doesn't have to think twice to be able to express his emotions. He loves them a lot and can expect them to understand him, he cannot expect it from anyone else. Such things happens naturally. He puts in efforts for his conditioned behavior towards his family, whereas with Sai, he can let his emotions flow.

It happens with many couples as you would know. The way a husband or a wife react sometimes to others, would not be the way, they react to each other under the same kind of situation.

It has got to do with expectations as well. Couples have hopes and expectations from each other in terms of actions and understanding as well. Have expectations that the other will understand as why they did it.

Also, when others does it, it wouldn't bother them, wouldn't affect them, as much as it affects or bother when one of them does something like that.

One more thing that I always relate is that there are many who wouldn't like anyone pointing fingers at their spouse.

The reason being, they know all the good qualities of their spouse, have a good understanding of them, know their good intentions. Hence they feel that their spouse don't deserve any kind of hatred or dislike. They won't be able to bear or should I say that it really hurts them or disturbs them, when people who are poorly behaved, who lack moral values and lack a lot of other things, speak anything ill about their spouse.

Virat would never like if Karishma or Sonali comments of speaks ill of Sai. The reason why he always wants her to act careful and thoughtful.

And in a couple, if one of them had given a chance, for anyone else to point fingers at them unknowingly too, they will get upset with their spouse.

It is the feeling of, why give a chance to someone else to point fingers at you in first place.

In Virat's case, he has always wanted her to behave and act in such a way that no one can point fingers at her.

Anything, where they are unreasonable, he will be able to tackle, but not when she is at fault. It is not because he feels caught in between family and Sai, it is just that he will have no reasons or justifications to support her.

To summarise, the way Virat reacts harsh/rude/volcano with Sai is because

- He can be himself with her, express his emotions without having to think. This is also because

- - he has faith that she will understand him

- - has faith that she won't judge him

- - knows that she wouldn't expect him to behave only in a particular way

- - she herself acts without filters

- - has expectations from her and cannot/doesn't have from others. He sometimes leaves them thinking they are hopeless, but can't think that way with Sai.

- - has faith in her that she won't do anything wrong/harm anyone in anyway. He doesn't care if others in his family have made mistakes, because he has always seen that in them and nothing more can be expected from them.

Also he only cannot bear it if she makes mistakes, it hurts him because he trusts her to not make such mistakes.

- - doesn't want her to give chance to anyone to point fingers at her. It is not because she is his wife and it is embarrassing, it is because he gets hurt and affected when someone questions her actions or when they scold her or insult her. He takes it to heart.

He gets disturbed when she gets bashed. Wouldn't be a problem if she is not wrong, he can fight for her. But when she is wrong, he feels helpless, unable to support her, also unable to see her getting attacked by all and especially by worthless people like Karishma.

He knows that she doesn't deserve it and feels that she could have been careful to not fall into problems.

- - other than all the above reasons, he vouches for her, trusts her and defends her but when he is proved wrong, when she is actually wrong, his trust on her gets questioned and he ends up having no answers. Falls into a position where he is not able to defend her.

This time with Devi Tai, this is another reason why he is very angry. She has broken his trust on her. His trust on her is proved wrong in front of his family too.

- others actions doesn't bother as much as Sai's or even Aai's because he has high hopes of only these two, keep these two in high regards. If they are proven to be wrong, he feels let down by them, disappointed by them.

When others does, it is something like

"I anyway only expected this from them" or

"what else can be expected out of this person" or

"nothing that I say is going to bring a change in this person, when they haven't changed in all these years, how much can be expected from them" kind of an attitude. Sometimes he feels they are hopeless.

He thinks

"Baat karke koi faayda nahi hone waala hai. Agar baat karoonga bhi, toh saare ilzaam Sai par hi daal denge ya phir Sai mein aur galtiyan nikalne lag jayenge"

"Kaku purane khayalat ki hai aur unse isse zyaada koi ummeed bhi nahi rak saktha main"

I understand and echo your thoughts on him feeling himself, expressing himself with Sai , because Sai has brought out in him the version of him that he himself was not aware of .

But I would re-iterate , I have issues with the anger that might lead to a damage in the relationship. Ousting her from CN is depriving her of her right.. The house is as much hers as is his. And since he said Baat devi Tai ki hai isiliye main nahi sununga.. Well then baat Devi tai ki tab bhi thi jab ye pata chala tha that she was kept medicated for years after keeping her away from her husband, keeping the family away from the truth of marriage. I dont even want to consider Harini over here.. I am curious now How is he going to react when he knows his neice was made to stay in orphanage and his mature very mature friend knew about it and still went ahead with misleading him..

Anyway I will keep away from commenting on the characters or the show till it starts with the separation, if at all there are..

This post is a hit. 😎

Well will answer when I will get some time after work out, shower, lunch and office. 🤣 Or maybe never if by the time I forget or feel lazy. 🤣

Originally posted by: asmi_joya

I understand and echo your thoughts on him feeling himself, expressing himself with Sai , because Sai has brought out in him the version of him that he himself was not aware of .

But I would re-iterate , I have issues with the anger that might lead to a damage in the relationship.

That is why I said, that it is still not justified. Uncontrollable anger is never good and whatever explanations one might have, it still isn't right.

Ousting her from CN is depriving her of her right.. The house is as much hers as is his.

Don't think that he has got that. Also, now that he had a flashback on the holi scene and thinks that she has been planning during holi, will give an even bigger excuse to say that she anyway doesn't look at him as her husband and she doesn't care about him, so why live with him. Will even say the house was never hers in first place because she never accepted this marriage.

And he had anyway once said that he will break her Dad's promise (DIG office visit day), he will break it now by asking her to leave.

He takes her responsibility or not, shouldn't send her out especially after marrying her.

And since he said Baat devi Tai ki hai isiliye main nahi sununga.. Well then baat Devi tai ki tab bhi thi jab ye pata chala tha that she was kept medicated for years after keeping her away from her husband, keeping the family away from the truth of marriage.

I hate that scene. Exactly for the reason you have stated. He didn't even want to hear. There can be many explanations for this but it is still not justified.

I dont even want to consider Harini over here.. I am curious now How is he going to react when he knows his neice was made to stay in orphanage and his mature very mature friend knew about it and still went ahead with misleading him..

Will only try to correct it in future? Might never come to know of what the elders of his house did.

Anyway I will keep away from commenting on the characters or the show till it starts with the separation, if at all there are..

True, I don't start any serious post these days. Not a good time.

Have replied in green.

Originally posted by: laksh

Have replied in green.

No No not because I am not interested , but because I am not watching the episodes completely and I cant comment on the characters now.. However once these episodes are done and separation starts I am going to visit these unseen episodes. I only replied on one of the posts, where Virat's anger was being justified. I do agree to him getting angry, he might as well think that Sai was pretending to get romantic to him in order to distract him. I wanted him to let her be in the same house and ask her to stay away from him and his family. That would be the best thing to do this situation and will also keep the characters intact.

Originally posted by: asmi_joya

No No not because I am not interested , but because I am not watching the episodes completely and I cant comment on the characters now.. However once these episodes are done and separation starts I am going to visit these unseen episodes. I only replied on one of the posts, where Virat's anger was being justified. I do agree to him getting angry, he might as well think that Sai was pretending to get romantic to him in order to distract him. I wanted him to let her be in the same house and ask her to stay away from him and his family. That would be the best thing to do this situation and will also keep the characters intact.

@green oh okay

@bold but she was never romantic, he was. And whatever she did like wiping his face and all, he shouldn't forget or ignore that she was also in an intoxicated state. Wouldn't be fair if he doesn't think that. I understand if he thinks that his feelings or he is not important for her. I understand if he gets hurt that it was all only his advances and she wasn't interested in it, it is natural for him to think that way. That is the truth.

Sai enjoyed with him in rang barse song, looked forward to dance with him in imagination and did a lot of things in nasha but the truth is that, she still thinks it to be a deal marriage. Her heart always wanted him but not her brain.

Originally posted by: laksh

@green oh okay

@bold but she was never romantic, he was. And whatever she did like wiping his face and all, he shouldn't forget or ignore that she was also in an intoxicated state. Wouldn't be fair if he doesn't think that. I understand if he thinks that his feelings or he is not important for her. I understand if he gets hurt that it was all only his advances and she wasn't interested in it, it is natural for him to think that way. That is the truth.

Sai enjoyed with him in rang barse song, looked forward to dance with him in imagination and did a lot of things in nasha but the truth is that, she still thinks it to be a deal marriage. Her heart always wanted him but not her brain.

@bold

I think I have an answer here. She maybe was not in a point of life or time ,that thought she has to know of romance one day. She was just a girl from GC who had some issues with life, a dream to aspire and a small but lovely family. She didn't even imagine this in dreams maybe. So,she is knowing all this ,as she is very raw and fresh in this matter.

@green

I agree, she is currently keeping everything as black and white. She loves me, he loves her, I will help my professor, I will support tai, this marriage is a deal. As I said ,she never imagined such a situation, so she is not prepared, as this is not an exam,so she is somewhere or the other afraid to move forward here maybe.

Originally posted by: Shristhi2002

@bold

I think I have an answer here. She maybe was not in a point of life or time ,that thought she has to know of romance one day. She was just a girl from GC who had some issues with life, a dream to aspire and a small but lovely family. She didn't even imagine this in dreams maybe. So,she is knowing all this ,as she is very raw and fresh in this matter.

She has never thought about these in her life. It was only her aaba and books. But when I said she was never romantic, I think.I didn't phrase it right, since it was a reply. I meant to say that she never made any move on him in her sober state, she did cooperate though and she was being genuine. So I don't expect Virat to think she used him in anyway, would be absurd. We will see when it comes.

@green

I agree, she is currently keeping everything as black and white. She loves me, he loves her, I will help my professor, I will support tai, this marriage is a deal. As I said ,she never imagined such a situation, so she is not prepared, as this is not an exam,so she is somewhere or the other afraid to move forward here maybe.

Yeah, she is afraid to give in to her emotions. She doesn't want to accept that she also has feelings for him. She strongly believes that he loves Pakhi. I don't want Sai to think that Virat did all that on the day of holi only because he was drunk 😒. Would be good if shs doesn't think about it at all if she is going to think in that direction 😂😂

No one knows yet what a sadist I am. 😈 🤣 So I love the angry Virat with Sai. ☺️ I have no problem with him being the way he is with her. In fact I get bored with simple love stories. I need the anger, the angst, the pain, the hurtful dialogues. 🤣 So every time they fight I just love it. Even when she makes those bade bade aankhein to fight looks so good. The only reason I started watching this show was the GC track. She was fire and he handled her so patiently. 😆

But that doesn't mean I like the MCPs. Virat is a good boy. Even when he hurts her he will apologize. I know everyone went mad at him when he held her hand but I didn't mind it that much because as soon as he realized what he had done, he hated himself. So much that he remembered about the incident for days.

In this track his anger is justified. He believes that Pulkit is a fraud so how can he let his Tai get married to him. So not angry at him at all. But the problem as mentioned by everyone is that he behaves different with Sai and his family.

That's the problem. We know he is like this with Sai and Aayi because he can fully be himself with them but the rest of the members. But that doesn't justify his behavior with them. It's completely his fault if he wants to be the good boy of the house in front of the elders who don't even love him as much as Sai and Aayi love him. The way he closes his eyes on everything Pakhi and CGang do but sunao Sai even for her little mistakes makes him look so bad. So I am going to bajao him. 😈

Let's say as he loves her, he can't hear anthing against her then why scold her in front of everyone so that everyone gets more chances to bash her. Is it to show that see I go against her too, I don't always support her. That's insane. 😆 And why make sure they instigate him more by saying he will take action against her when he fails to do the same with his family.

As a brother he failed because again his family mattered more. He didn't want to organize her dreamy wedding she dreamed of. He didn't want to know what actually happened with her. Because past is past. 🤡

As an IPS officer he failed too. No proper investigation. The evidence he got he left it in the house in the hands of his best friend. 😳

So yes I will love him as much as I will bash him. 🤣

Sorry my train is always late so I join in late in the conversation. 🤣