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I am just scared on why imli is back in tripathi house for holi. I was very impressed by how she stood her ground to Adi but she coming back to tripathi does not give credibility to her words. I don’t want her to look like a home breaker or someone desperate. I liked her character till now . I started feeling tensed seeing ig where she is in T house. I am getting addicted to this serial watching ig for updates and rewatching episodes. But this week really scared and nervous hope the writers don’t mess up the story and make imlie look weak.

Originally posted by: MuteButton

And it is such a sad reflection of their relationship/ lives. Malini was so much in the background of his existence that she never registered. So her absence did not register either. It is so unfortunate that they wasted 7 years of each others’ lives pretending that they meant something they never did in the first place.

Even average couples without big love in their lives miss their partners even if it is only habitual only in nature (like missing food cooked by the other etc). Even that did not seem to be a part of the Aditya Malini equation . There was some discussion on this thread about whether these two were even friends to begin with - i think Imlie’s entry into his life probably wiped out of relevance any little bit of friendship that they were linked with. In the first episode I think where they are drinking tea, he does protect her from water splashing at her. So he did care a bit but maybe never to the extent the relationship needed.

Absolutely. It is indeed a sad state of affairs and its own tragedy that they wasted 7 years of their life in such a relationship. They lived a farce together without realizing it.....one obviously feels bad for Malini that she didn't even register for him enough for him to note her absence but then the immediate thought that follows is....how did she not see this in 7 years when it was SO obvious she is an afterthought to him. What kind of a woman thinks that will be enough to make a relationship last?

Yeah, you don't need to have a grand love story or perfect understanding to still manage to be decent partners to each other in most relationships....but these two were just totally on opposite tracks for so long without realizing it. Adi's levels of detachment in their relationship should have been glaring red flags to Malini but she just didn't seem to comprehend.

Re: first epi when Adi protects Malini from the water splash.....I think I said this before also that protectiveness is there in his general nature for those he cares about....and he did care about Malini on that basic level obviously....a sense of familiarity with the woman he's been with for 7 years too....not to downplay it, but he would have done the same for Rupi di in her place😆. But if Imlie was standing there, he would have not only protected her from the water splash but probably picked her up and tried to move to higher ground as if they are in a flood zone🤣....and then he would have proceeded to scold her for allowing water to splash on her🤣. Basically, with everyone else it's polite/basic levels of concern/protectiveness.....with Imlie, he's like at DefCon1 instantly for every small scratch on her😆.

Malini's mistake partly also is that she thought this is all Adi is capable of and it will be good enough for her to live her life with him like this.....she never even tried to scratch beneath the surface diligently enough to learn if there is more before deciding this is all he is - a detached but good/honest man and that is enough for her.

Originally posted by: AreYaar

Re: all the discussion about Imlie needing to realize why Malini-Adi are wrong for each other and won't be happy together.....lol.....I'm wondering if the writers want to keep both Imlie and Adi so above the fray regarding this delicate topic that they would rather some external force draw this conclusion that Malini-Adi are incompatible😆......Do they not even want to show Adi reaching the obvious conclusion cuz they still don't know if they want to show Adi saying he fell out of love with Malini or that he never loved her to begin with? 😆.....The latter would make for a more interesting journey of self-reflection for Adi but so far, I can't really say which direction they will take it in......they are studiously avoiding showing Adi's thought process on Malini.

Maybe tonight's epi will bring some relative clarity on that. Hope they show some of Adi's thoughts beyond his apologies and evasiveness with Malini.....

@bold - my money is on Aditya telling it only to Imlie that the latter was what it always was. Ideally I would like him to tell it out loud to Malini as well but not too sure on that. Or he tries telling her and she does not register it as always.

I have a feeling Malini learns the truth about the PD marriage and steps away. Aakhir main mahaan bhi toh rakhna hai makers ko use.

Interim main Aditya and his karnaame are going to just let wounds fester everywhere. Kisi aur se sach bolna aata hi nahin hai iss bande ko.

Originally posted by: naadanmasakalli

Food cooking se yaad aaya the malini who was all about cooking yeh and yeh and yeh never actually did that post marriage ever either and yes we're shown she cooks a lot and his fav dishes a lot but again he is never actually shown to us eating that casually either.. 🤣 have they shown that? I have no memories of that.. all I know Is she kept cooking nonstop 😆 even the cake once mentioned her never got to eat it 😆

LOL yeah the early epis made a very big deal about Malini's cooking and how much she loved to make Adi's fav. dishes and whatnot😆.....yeh toh banaati reh gayi but they never really showed Adi RELISHING her cooking that much despite all her efforts😆......literally the FIRST time they showed Adi enjoying a meal in the show was him having that Moti Roti made by Imlie😆.....usse pehle the sense they gave was ki Adi just wanted his meals alag se and kaam ke beech mein jaldi jaldi khaa ke nikal leta hai.....lol....so no idea what Adi's opinion was on all the fancy pakwaan Malini made for him cuz they never showed him really enjoying any of her food....lol....I guess woh bhi obligation mein khaa ke taareef kar di hogi and Malini thought he loved it.

Even that chocolate cake - Adi asked her to make it a couple times but nahin bhi mila toh he was ok about it😆....jabki agar ise Moti Roti nahin milti toh he gets anxious😆.

I guess it's symbolic of the two relationships.....Malini agar mil gayi toh theek warna uske bina bhi kaam chal jaayega aaraam se.....jabki Imlie ke bina iska guzara hi nahin ab....he is unable to live without Imlie at all.

Originally posted by: AreYaar

Circling back to this just now.....lol I can understand Fary's nostalgia for Nakku and her Saab too.....but Adi-Imlie's case is different for a few reasons that I think Fary also pointed out.

a) She doesn't call him Babusahib cuz of their difference in status in so much as the difference in their background.....a person from the city is always "babu" by default to a person from the village....and the sahib is added in as a respect I think both for him being older than her and also for the respect she feels for him as a person.

So here I would push back a bit on the premise that they are "equal partners" for each other.....the age and background difference will always play some part and they will never have that peer quality between them as a couple I feel......there will always a bit of a nod to the fact that he is older while she's still in college....it plays into things like the fact that he is still a teacher for her in many ways even as she is his wife otherwise. They are building towards an equality of mind between them but there is still that old school kind of respect between them as well where she gives him the regard of holding him in higher esteem while simultaneously having the courage to push back sternly too if she feels he's not right.

Word on the bold... There is always this line of respect that she maintains with him irrespective of how much ever she is upset at him. Also, she is always puts his feelings in front of her own like first let me soothe your feathers and then you can continue soothing mine and it was so prominent when she was looking for them in jungle. She was worried about her Amma and SK crying but because BBS was not answering in time, she put all that aside to ask him, if he is upset or has she made any mistake so that she can fix it even though she was so worried in that moment.

Other thing is that their fights, their talks, their secret is always between them. How much ever she is confused about his words, she never questions him in front of others thus maintaining his status and respect, unlike someone we know. 😛

Originally posted by: AreYaar

I'll just add general thoughts on some things cuz I don't have the energy to go back and quote/reply to specific posts right now😆

About the lack of a hug.....lol I don't think the issue is about whether the goodbye scene needed a hug or not....I know most people around here only want the hug for "chemistry" reasons😆.....but that wasn't the reason for me....when the discussion about the hug was happening before the epi aired, no one quite knew how the goodbye scene would play out....my thought was that if a hug had to happen, it would happen in a moment of impulse, otherwise it won't.

The goodbye scene ultimately ended up happening seperately from the conversation in the jungle where Adi was at his most emotional/impulsive. If the goodbye had happened in that moment and Adi hadn't tried to insert a love confession between it😆, then a hug would have been the way to express all that he can't bring himself to say yet. But the makers chose a different path in showing him almost saying out the words instead and Imlie stopping him there.

Which is why the actual goodbye scene ended up being all about pulling back....Adi's struggle with pulling back from Imlie after having gotten carried away the last time he was pouring out his emotions in front of her. So a hug wouldn't fit in this scenario at all and it became all about Adi trying to show he will always be there for her in any way she allows him to be.....giving her motivation and hope if she won't allow him to give her anything else right now. By the time, the scene happened, I wasn't expecting any hug at all😆.....and I know everyone else found the goodbye scene very emotional but I was still feeling amused by Adi in this for some reason😆.....his attempts to be like "Ok theek hai mat milna"......he's so full of it😆. Ghanta "it's ok".....lol....as if we don't know him enough by now to know kab badi badi baatein karta hai that we know he won't be able to have impulse control over one bit😆.....his attempt at showing "large hearted maturity" in that scene was what was making me laugh.....Imlie ne maanga toh he's trying to leave....telling her he will give her space if that's what she wants😆.....but nahin hona isse. The guy who got SO carried away that he was about to TELL her he loves her before even consciously realizing it himself😆.....THAT guy is going to be like, "ok mat milna"....hahaha yeah right😆.

The Adi who grapples between zidd and emotional blackmail to get what he wants.....lol that's the more familiar Adi now than the one who tries to show he can be "large hearted".....lol

So in that sense, I was still more touched by the bus scene....because that's where I saw a glimpse of that zidd karne wala Adi....jo Imlie se shikaayat karta hai😆.....jise pata hai ki he's not going to be ok away from her....and he has this mix of rueful emotions about it.

The goodbye scene showed the Adi who wants to be a mentor/motivator to Imlie if she won't let him be anything else.....while the bus imagination scene showed the Adi who within minutes of leaving her was back to his, "Mujhe kyun nahin roka" line😆.....lol this is the guy who thinks he can live up to "it's ok if you don't want to meet me"? Sure Sure😆

Both the scenes were lovely....the goodbye scene was more heartbreaking over how much Adi was trying to hold himself back to give her some support in other ways if she won't allow it the way he otherwise wants to.....and the bus scene - I think I just loved it for the Imlie smiling at him so serenely as he kept trying to get answers from her😆

Re: Adi sleeping peacefully in the hut while Imlie made rotis.....lol the idea of him finding peace in her presence was a lovely one no doubt but I just couldn't stop laughing thinking he spent a whole extra evening/night in her house😆.....like what did they talk about after coming back from the jungle? So easy to jump to the next morning in timeline? 😆.....they should have added in some scene about Adi missing his bus that afternoon so having to wait until the next day for the next bus😆.....

All in all, the fact that the writers kept Adi's thought process regarding what to do about Malini so vague made Imlie's decision all the more apt.....this guy still doesn't know what the hell he's doing😆.....so thank god for this girl who's still trying to save him from himself. You can't go around doing love confessions to someone when you still aren't clear about who your wife is, do you have one wife/two wives etc. etc. 😆......Yeah, he's having his epiphanies about what he wants in life now and he's a good person otherwise but the way he was going about this was going to set up way more long term regrets.

Re: all the discussion about Imlie needing to realize why Malini-Adi are wrong for each other and won't be happy together.....lol.....I'm wondering if the writers want to keep both Imlie and Adi so above the fray regarding this delicate topic that they would rather some external force draw this conclusion that Malini-Adi are incompatible😆......Do they not even want to show Adi reaching the obvious conclusion cuz they still don't know if they want to show Adi saying he fell out of love with Malini or that he never loved her to begin with? 😆.....The latter would make for a more interesting journey of self-reflection for Adi but so far, I can't really say which direction they will take it in......they are studiously avoiding showing Adi's thought process on Malini.

Maybe tonight's epi will bring some relative clarity on that. Hope they show some of Adi's thoughts beyond his apologies and evasiveness with Malini.....

Agree with the goodbye scene being an attempt by Adi at pulling back his emotions because that was what Imlie required. Uske bas chalta toh Imlie ko bhi utha ke leke jaata if Imlie had relented even a little bit😆

As to what might have happened post lunch & the morning scene- Adi must have tried to do some more emotional blackmailing, family ki duhaai to change Imlie's mind. That is why Imlie ne usey morning main moti roti bhi nahi di taaki Adi fir se ghar wapas chalo jaap shuru na kar de😆

Agree with ur comment about Adi wanting to have Imlie with him without resolving his stance on Malini. Use bas Imlie saath chahiye baaki saare logistics baad main sochega ye Maharaj😆 Thank God Imlie has a sane mind to understand Adi & save him from himself. Warna Adi ko toh kisi aur ki kuch padi hi nahi hai.

This reminds me about people wanting to see grey Adi. Adi is already a grey character....abhi aur kitna grey shades chahiye logon ko🤓 Abhi kis angle se Adi logon ko dudh ka dhula dikh raha hai😆 Matlab is bande ne toh kaafi saare MLs ki recklessness ko piche chod diya hai since his forced marriage.

Apna kaam nikalvane ke liye logon ko baaton main ghumana acche se aata hai use....Imlie pehle use indulge karti thi isme but ab woh pak ke usey acche se handle kar rahi hai. Iski impulsiveness & controlling tendencies ko lagaam laga rahi hai. I mean ye banda abhi 4 dinon tak acche se PD main relaxed hai without worrying about ghar main phailaya hua raita😳😆 Emotional blackmailing main ye bhi piche nahi hai Malini se...ha us level tak nahi hai abhi tak.

Abhi Imlie ne uski Ghar jaane ki demand ko itna resist kiya ki usey haar maan ke lautna pada dil pe patthar rakh kar.....Iske Imlie ke bina restlessness toh we have already witnessed. He will not be able to handle her absence. Kuch na kuch try marta hi rahega usey wapas ghar laane ke liye....aur lucky breaks toh ise kaafi mil hi jaate hai...let's see Imlie ko kaise Ghar wapas lekar aata hai because I am damn sure ye hi lekar aayega use wapas.

Agree with you that today's epi will give us a better clarity regarding Adi's thought process on Malini. He is such an unpredictable character that he surprises the audience all the time.

Originally posted by: AreYaar

Absolutely. It is indeed a sad state of affairs and its own tragedy that they wasted 7 years of their life in such a relationship. They lived a farce together without realizing it.....one obviously feels bad for Malini that she didn't even register for him enough for him to note her absence but then the immediate thought that follows is....how did she not see this in 7 years when it was SO obvious she is an afterthought to him. What kind of a woman thinks that will be enough to make a relationship last?

Yeah, you don't need to have a grand love story or perfect understanding to still manage to be decent partners to each other in most relationships....but these two were just totally on opposite tracks for so long without realizing it. Adi's levels of detachment in their relationship should have been glaring red flags to Malini but she just didn't seem to comprehend.

Re: first epi when Adi protects Malini from the water splash.....I think I said this before also that protectiveness is there in his general nature for those he cares about....and he did care about Malini on that basic level obviously....a sense of familiarity with the woman he's been with for 7 years too....not to downplay it, but he would have done the same for Rupi di in her place😆. But if Imlie was standing there, he would have not only protected her from the water splash but probably picked her up and tried to move to higher ground as if they are in a flood zone🤣....and then he would have proceeded to scold her for allowing water to splash on her🤣. Basically, with everyone else it's polite/basic levels of concern/protectiveness.....with Imlie, he's like at DefCon1 instantly for every small scratch on her😆.

Malini's mistake partly also is that she thought this is all Adi is capable of and it will be good enough for her to live her life with him like this.....she never even tried to scratch beneath the surface diligently enough to learn if there is more before deciding this is all he is - a detached but good/honest man and that is enough for her.

@bold - I do not know if it is somehow linked to who her father is. Mom toh jaisi bhi ho, did she lean on who she thought her dad was to select her life partner? She knows they fight but he seems to have lavished whatever little attention/ love he had on her so he became the benchmark. And maybe like Aparna said in one of the episodes, whatever time they spent together, which was their time essentially, Aditya probably put in some token effort in being interested in her life and her so that probably was enough. Flags miss karna is like a part of her - sacchai sunn na hi nahin ise. Poochti hai but jawaab jaan na nahin hai isko. Ghar main dysfunction ko andekha karne ki aadat jo shaayad ho gayi thi.

Lol at the rain hypothetical 😆 if that ganna incident was anything to go by, my god 🤣

Originally posted by: AreYaar

LOL yeah the early epis made a very big deal about Malini's cooking and how much she loved to make Adi's fav. dishes and whatnot😆.....yeh toh banaati reh gayi but they never really showed Adi RELISHING her cooking that much despite all her efforts😆......literally the FIRST time they showed Adi enjoying a meal in the show was him having that Moti Roti made by Imlie😆.....usse pehle the sense they gave was ki Adi just wanted his meals alag se and kaam ke beech mein jaldi jaldi khaa ke nikal leta hai.....lol....so no idea what Adi's opinion was on all the fancy pakwaan Malini made for him cuz they never showed him really enjoying any of her food....lol....I guess woh bhi obligation mein khaa ke taareef kar di hogi and Malini thought he loved it.

Even that chocolate cake - Adi asked her to make it a couple times but nahin bhi mila toh he was ok about it😆....jabki agar ise Moti Roti nahin milti toh he gets anxious😆.

I guess it's symbolic of the two relationships.....Malini agar mil gayi toh theek warna uske bina bhi kaam chal jaayega aaraam se.....jabki Imlie ke bina iska guzara hi nahin ab....he is unable to live without Imlie at all.

That is more what it is like.. moto roti ke liye he can fight 😆 uske saatg na diye jaane pe pout like a kiddo ke aur toh aur meri fav roti bhi nahi di saath main😆 ek aur zulm kar dia meri dukhi aatma pe 😆

Lol yes I guess courtesy main tareef kar di hogi ke ab banaya mere liye tih good acha hai but it gets all the more hilarious when you think of it that way ke malini was all about yeh babao woh banao aisa waisa am expert and adi ke liye yeh woh but he never once ate anything she made hahahah so much for her confidence.. which makes one wonder did he ever actually actually ate it ya aise hi iske poochne pe kabhi kdh dia ke haan acha hi tha without eating

To the big quote will reply in a bit ..😊

Originally posted by: Lodestar

I am excited to see the conversation between Adi & his boss. How is he going to react because the editor will be the first person to whom his truth has been revealed. I hope he becomes a confidant to him & gives him perspective so that he can control his impulsive nature a bit. Adi desperately needs someone else as a sounding board because sometimes he worsens the situation in his impulsiveness & he would require someone else to tell him how such things will affect Imlie as well.

So true, I really hope that editor shows him the way because there should be someone who removes him from his depressed state and point him in the right direction. I do think that Imlie coming back to "T" would be a push but Malini's hunger strike **rolling my eyes here** would be a pull, so someone who is an outsider and who Aditya respects, giving a perspective would be very helpful. Left on his own, he is only going to end up creating more mess than it currently is. 😆

Originally posted by: naadanmasakalli

Yup and I would like them to treat it like that too.. maintain that vibe that guardian wala bonding ..they can totally say and behave as per their wishes yet he is there more as that guy looking over her too showing her the path.. that old school respect really is so unique one can see the ease between them yet the respect the maturity.. again a very fine line to maintain and so far they have aced it .. to me even when they are pally sometime later I would like them to have this going ke when he needs to be the teacher the adult and use that age factor he can.. I prefer the emotional and mental wavelength pe equality without making a show of hum equal hain hum empowered hain in token ways..

This. What I'm seeing them navigate right now in such a FINE way makes me want this balance to continue to be maintained😆. It is so very tricky to navigate what they are currently navigating....to be able to show this deep emotional intimacy between Adi-Imlie transitioning to more physical affection, while also maintaining that nod to their background differences....the city-village ka thought process gap, the mentor/student gap....ek bade/chhote wala aspect that comes in with the age difference between them even as they find equality in their soch and mental/emotional wavelengths....the fact that he can be both a guardian watching over her and a partner walking each step with her simultaneously....all these role reversals they go through to step up for each other....it's amazing to behold.

I actually sometimes wonder if the story will even feel this interesting if we lose the city-village contrast wala angle to it....if Imlie puri sheheri ban gayi, will it feel as interesting?😆....I don't want her to lose her Imlie-ness even as I understand she has to evolve as she studies more and moves towards her career goals.

And overall yeah....that old school vibe in their rishta is making them all the more endearing and interesting to me😆.....