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Posted: 4 years ago
#51

Originally posted by: laksh


@bold I agree but Virat did what he felt was right at that moment. I don't deny that he kind of spoilt Samrat's life in a way but that wasn'this intention.

He thought he was sacrificing for his brother but never thought if the girl will ever be able to move on or not and how Samrat would feel when he comes to know that Pakhi and he loved each other.

Virat is a very emotional person and he thought and could see how happy his brother looked. He has heard it many times from Samrat that he likes Patralekha a lot. So, to him it was more like snatching away that smile from his brother's face, that happiness that he was hoping for. He didn't want to shatter his brother's dreams.

Virat failed to see/understand that it would have been good if he had told his brother the truth rather than keeping him in dark.


But there are a couple of things:

Virat and Pakhi hardly shared any kind of relationship

He was about to propose her but never did

He only met her on the day of haldi and confessed his feelings only when he was confronted by Pakhi

So technically speaking Virat was more like another groom who liked Pakhi and whom Pakhi liked. Love actually never blossomed between them. There was no relationship between them. So, he thought that they were not at any stage in their relationship that it was important to let his brother know. If, if they had started to speak to each other, he had confessed his feelings to her before he left and then they lost contact and then again found her like this, I think Virat might have informed Samrat. Because this scenario means that they are committed.


As per the scenario that was shown in the show, they were not committed to each other. There were expectations, hope to start something but it never began. So I think he thought that there was nothing much to share and hid it from Samrat.

He never realised how much him and Pakhi had actually got emotionally attached to each other. Though they never spoke to each other about their feelings, they had it in their heart, they dreamt about each other. But can these be considered being in relationship?


As per him, they were not in a relationship and I think that is why he felt it was okay to do it.

i was going through your comment and one sentence suddenly caught my attention. Virat thought that there was nothing much to share. I would have agreed if he hadn't told Patralekha before marriage that I love you more than my life. They were not in a commitment but the moment they met again they told each other what they had in their hearts. He might not have committed in front of her but both his aayi and Samrat knew there was a girl Virat was serious about. Even though it was a two day love story CVs have tried to establish the feelings were strong. So strong that Virat could tell his aayi about it. And it wasn't timepass. If it wasn't timepass it was serious. So if he treats it as true love (whether or not it was is for another debate) there was definitely alot to share which he didn't.
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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: cheekukabeej

i was going through your comment and one sentence suddenly caught my attention. Virat thought that there was nothing much to share. I would have agreed if he hadn't told Patralekha before marriage that I love you more than my life. They were not in a commitment but the moment they met again they told each other what they had in their hearts. He might not have committed in front of her but both his aayi and Samrat knew there was a girl Virat was serious about. Even though it was a two day love story CVs have tried to establish the feelings were strong. So strong that Virat could tell his aayi about it. And it wasn't timepass. If it wasn't timepass it was serious. So if he treats it as true love (whether or not it was is for another debate) there was definitely alot to share which he didn't.


It wasn't a timepass, not at all. They did love each other. Yes, they confessed but in a moment of weakness, in an attempt to clarify that he didn't think of it as a timepass.

But that was only after she got engaged right? She was committed to Samrat already. He met her only on the day of Haldi.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Virat should have 100% told samrat the truth. Even if there wasnt much to talk about on his end, he heard from pp that she wanted to break of the shaadi with samrat as soon as her MU with virat resolved. He himself confessed to pp while that he loved her but still wouldnt marry her! 🙄 Pp didn't think twice about agreeing to marry samrat even when still recovering from whatever it is that she had with virat. She was never serious about samrat. Is this the kind of girl virat wanted samrat to marry- someone that enters the relationship with a lie, not fully invested in his brother, in love with somebody else?!

Virat should have thought- if that was him getting married - how would he feel if he were to find out that his bride has feelings for another man, that too, his own brother, how would he feel if he never knew that his wife had never been honest about her past relationship.

Virat may have felt bad saying something when samrat and family looked so happy, the shaadi had actually started. But he needed to still do it! After thd yoga camp, virat mer pp directly at haldi. He never actually had a proper "relationship" with her. But he had "serious feelings". So while its understandable that virat didn't want to ruin the happiness, he should have shown some farsightedness. He made too many assumptions- he assumed that pp would easily move on coz samrat is such a good guy. And he assumed that the "love" aspect between him n pp would never be revealed in front of anyone- but he forgot that sach humesha bahaar aa hi jaata hai- its just a matter of time. In samrats case, no matter what time this sach came out, it'd caused him grief. He found out on what should've been his suhaag raat! Thats brutal. But even if samrat only learnt much later lets say after him-pp had moved on, it'd still bothered him a lot that his brother was his wife's "EX" in a sense. Samrat deserved the truth. Both from virat and from pp.

We don't know if Samrat blames himself or if he got angry at virat/pp. Maybe its all of the above. He blames himself but he also would be upset at virat- hia shiva for hiding the truth. Or maybe hes more upset at pp- coz virat was clouded by his love for family etc, but pp had no compulsion to marry him and drag him into her mess. He even asked her clearly right from meeting number one and even volunteered to break the rishta on her behalf if ahe didn't want to get married. Yet pp chose a guy like that to be dishonest to. He was so upfront and real from day 1 and she LIED to him. Sad. Atleast she couldve hinted at something in her past, even if she didn't want to divulge everything. But she didnt care to be honest to the man she was marrying!

But both of these "mature" peoole have convinced themselves that they have done great " sacrifice" but they are both STUPID. In matters of love marriage, one should not make sacrifices and compromises, it should be a conscious decision that one takes and tries to fulfil dil seh with the intention that it'll last lifelong. And the foundation of that relationship needs to be trust/honesty.

Samrat should come back and show them the mirror. Its absolutely unfair for virat pp to ruin his life by hiding the truth from him.

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Posted: 4 years ago
#54

Originally posted by: laksh


It wasn't a timepass, not at all. They did love each other. Yes, they confessed but in a moment of weakness, in an attempt to clarify that he didn't think of it as a timepass.

But that was only after she got engaged right? She was committed to Samrat already. He met her only on the day of Haldi.

@bold but was it really love!? How does one define this attraction as love, in love you know the weaknesses and strengths of a person, you aren’t as impulsive as pakhi was with the number thing..




Yes she agreed to marry Samrat because she thought Virat cheated on her and used her 🙄🙄 so agreed to an arranged marriage as per her mother’s wishes..

On the day of the haldi when Virat came with haldi for pakhi both were shocked! Then pakhi asked him all the questions and he refused to stand up for their non existent relationship, because of his brother!


I mean if he really loved her he would have stood up for the love no matter the consequence, you just don’t let your love go like that if the two love each other.. how will you possibly be happy with someone else when you love another!!


min my opinion Virat never loved patralekha, it was attraction and infatuation but it cannot be defined as love!


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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: laksh


It wasn't a timepass, not at all. They did love each other. Yes, they confessed but in a moment of weakness, in an attempt to clarify that he didn't think of it as a timepass.

But that was only after she got engaged right? She was committed to Samrat already. He met her only on the day of Haldi.

even if she was engaged to Samrat that commitment was between two people Patralekha and Samrat and the commitment was about to break for Virat by Patralekha. still he convinced her to get married to his brother without involving his brother. If she was ready to break the marriage for him, it was her decision, what Virat does after that was his decision. But he chose to convince a girl who was in love with him to get married to his brother. If the commitment was between two people whether to break that should be left on them. He could have told Samrat the truth and Patralekha that he would never marry her. Patralekha might still have agreed to get married to be close to Virat but whether or not to marry her would have been Samrat's decision.
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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: neeraja91

Virat should have 100% told samrat the truth. Even if there wasnt much to talk about on his end, he heard from pp that she wanted to break of the shaadi with samrat as soon as her MU with virat resolved. He himself confessed to pp while that he loved her but still wouldnt marry her! 🙄 Pp didn't think twice about agreeing to marry samrat even when still recovering from whatever it is that she had with virat. She was never serious about samrat. Is this the kind of girl virat wanted samrat to marry- someone that enters the relationship with a lie, not fully invested in his brother, in love with somebody else?!

Virat should have thought- if that was him getting married - how would he feel if he were to find out that his bride has feelings for another man, that too, his own brother, how would he feel if he never knew that his wife had never been honest about her past relationship.

Virat may have felt bad saying something when samrat and family looked so happy, the shaadi had actually started. But he needed to still do it! After thd yoga camp, virat mer pp directly at haldi. He never actually had a proper "relationship" with her. But he had "serious feelings". So while its understandable that virat didn't want to ruin the happiness, he should have shown some farsightedness. He made too many assumptions- he assumed that pp would easily move on coz samrat is such a good guy. And he assumed that the "love" aspect between him n pp would never be revealed in front of anyone- but he forgot that sach humesha bahaar aa hi jaata hai- its just a matter of time. In samrats case, no matter what time this sach came out, it'd caused him grief. He found out on what should've been his suhaag raat! Thats brutal. But even if samrat only learnt much later lets say after him-pp had moved on, it'd still bothered him a lot that his brother was his wife's "EX" in a sense. Samrat deserved the truth. Both from virat and from pp.

We don't know if Samrat blames himself or if he got angry at virat/pp. Maybe its all of the above. He blames himself but he also would be upset at virat- hia shiva for hiding the truth. Or maybe hes more upset at pp- coz virat was clouded by his love for family etc, but pp had no compulsion to marry him and drag him into her mess. He even asked her clearly right from meeting number one and even volunteered to break the rishta on her behalf if ahe didn't want to get married. Yet pp chose a guy like that to be dishonest to. He was so upfront and real from day 1 and she LIED to him. Sad. Atleast she couldve hinted at something in her past, even if she didn't want to divulge everything. But she didnt care to be honest to the man she was marrying!

But both of these "mature" peoole have convinced themselves that they have done great " sacrifice" but they are both STUPID. In matters of love marriage, one should not make sacrifices and compromises, it should be a conscious decision that one takes and tries to fulfil dil seh with the intention that it'll last lifelong. And the foundation of that relationship needs to be trust/honesty.

Samrat should come back and show them the mirror. Its absolutely unfair for virat pp to ruin his life by hiding the truth from him.

agree wholeheartedly. Also you have written it so beautifully.
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Posted: 4 years ago
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Nice Post.


Maybe I am also in the minority, when I saw the episode where Virat talks about Samrat saving him incident, it did feel like Virat always had that incident in the back of his mind, coz no matter what he would have done so far for Samrat, nothing would have come close to what Samrat did for him. They ofc share a very deep bond after that incident or is their bond start from Virat's side due to that. Though Virat loves Mohit too, but it's nowhere closer is what I felt, maybe I am mistaken.

When he see his family selected her to be the bahu, he knew he made a right decision of 'choosing' Pakhi. He was about to fall in love with someone whom his family would have also approved for him if she didn't make this hasty decision to move on in her life. So their yoga love could have been a reality if he was not asked to go to GC immediately (due to the Jagtap issue) . Though both brothers dreamed of the same girl, Samrat's dreams with her would have be different from Virat's given that he was going to marry her vs Virat's initial feeling of love.


He thinks by letting go of his wish to be with Patralekha with whom he thinks he feels a deep connection, he is giving a new life to Samrat. He feels that he can never feel the same connection with any other girl ever again whom his family might also approve, so it feels like a great sacrifice to him. Something worthy of repaying the ehsaan.


He also thinks he is giving what Samrat wants (based on the conversations between him and Samrat). But he never thought what would happen if Samrat comes to know about it in future.


But that might not be the only reason.


The minute he knows she is the intended bride for his brother, he knows now they do not have a future anymore. Maybe if it was still in discussion phase, he would have spoken up, but now it was Haldi. he cannot be involved with her anymore, even if the wedding doesn't happen.


What would have Virat done if Pakhi says in front of everyone that she loves Virat and wants to marry him? Could he lie, probably no given that sunny and her parents also knew. He probably wanted to avoid to avoid that too.


I feel like it was both Virat and Pakhi' fault, but it was Pakhi's decision in the end, coz she knows Virat will not accept her as his wife anymore no matter what, so Virat's punishment is to be alone forever and see her in an unwanted relation or maybe she would pretend to be happy to make him jealous and show him what he missed out. If she suffers, so will he.


She didn't know he planned to move out or didn't think he might get transferred or thay he cannot refuse kaku 's manipulation or aai's emotional request to marry in future.


Samrat should not have run away, instead he should have confronted both, esp Patralekha given that the decision was hers.


Both Samrat and Jeeva do not know each other as well as they thought they did.


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I know you will make a post after Sai-Virat's wedding. I hated Virat- Pakhi conversation immediately after the wedding. Can you tag me when you post, as I want to read your views?

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: sukri

Nice Post.


Maybe I am also in the minority, when I saw the episode where Virat talks about Samrat saving him incident, it did feel like Virat always had that incident in the back of his mind, coz no matter what he would have done so far for Samrat, nothing would have come close to what Samrat did for him. They ofc share a very deep bond after that incident or is their bond start from Virat's side due to that. Though Virat loves Mohit too, but it's nowhere closer is what I felt, maybe I am mistaken.

When he see his family selected her to be the bahu, he knew he made a right decision of 'choosing' Pakhi. He was about to fall in love with someone whom his family would have also approved for him if she didn't make this hasty decision to move on in her life. So their yoga love could have been a reality if he was not asked to go to GC immediately (due to the Jagtap issue) . Though both brothers dreamed of the same girl, Samrat's dreams with her would have be different from Virat's given that he was going to marry her vs Virat's initial feeling of love.


He thinks by letting go of his wish to be with Patralekha with whom he thinks he feels a deep connection, he is giving a new life to Samrat. He feels that he can never feel the same connection with any other girl ever again whom his family might also approve, so it feels like a great sacrifice to him. Something worthy of repaying the ehsaan.


He also thinks he is giving what Samrat wants (based on the conversations between him and Samrat). But he never thought what would happen if Samrat comes to know about it in future.


But that might not be the only reason.


The minute he knows she is the intended bride for his brother, he knows now they do not have a future anymore. Maybe if it was still in discussion phase, he would have spoken up, but now it was Haldi. he cannot be involved with her anymore, even if the wedding doesn't happen.


What would have Virat done if Pakhi says in front of everyone that she loves Virat and wants to marry him? Could he lie, probably no given that sunny and her parents also knew. He probably wanted to avoid to avoid that too.


I feel like it was both Virat and Pakhi' fault, but it was Pakhi's decision in the end, coz she knows Virat will not accept her as his wife anymore no matter what, so Virat's punishment is to be alone forever and see her in an unwanted relation or maybe she would pretend to be happy to make him jealous and show him what he missed out. If she suffers, so will he.


She didn't know he planned to move out or didn't think he might get transferred or thay he cannot refuse kaku 's manipulation or aai's emotional request to marry in future.


Samrat should not have run away, instead he should have confronted both, esp Patralekha given that the decision was hers.


Both Samrat and Jeeva do not know each other as well as they thought they did.


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I know you will make a post after Sai-Virat's wedding. I hated Virat- Pakhi conversation immediately after the wedding. Can you tag me when you post, as I want to read your views?

I'm so glad I'm not the only one😆. Your views completely match with mine. About Patralekha, yes the decision was hers but how I wish Samrat could be given that decision too. Anyways.

Yes Samrat should have confronted them. But maybe he needed some time alone to collect his thoughts. I might be wrong.

Oh, my pleasure. I would surely tag you if and when I make that post.🤗

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