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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: ashwariya_98

@bold - another thing which is wrong with Shaurya and needs to be adrressed. In my personal life also, I have male friends and I even hug them at times. Sadly, if ShaKhi bloomed, with Shaurya's current mentality, he'd never let Anokhi get closer to another guy in a friendly way too. We all might be having or might be having close male best friends who are like family to us. And those ppl are needed in life. Anokhi is still young and she needs those friendships besides love.

Shaurya is a very territorial man. During the goons scene , he was initially daying "uss ladki ko chodho" but as soon as he realised its Anokhi and saw him touching her (even though I feel the goon was just holding her neck and was not going to touch her that time) but Shaurya screamed " usko choona mat" . Not only once, but screamed that loudly even afterwards. Infact his continuous stressing om the point "usse choona mat" made that guy touch her in that creepy way. His lines at that time should have been more calculated like " usko chodh do" . But as he is extremely territorial of Anokhi, he cannot see anyone touching her at all. At that time it looked romantic to us, cause at that time she was in danger and those ppl were bad and somewhere his fears were right too. Uska rape bhi ho skta tha. That is why Shaurya's dialogue looked good to us.

But the fact is he isnt like that only with the goons. He is like that with every guy who talks to Anokhi. I bet even if it was a guy student today, Shaurya would behave in the same exact manner. His love is territorial and that needs to be changed cause it will make his relationship with Anokhi really toxic. I am happy that these issues are being adrressed before they get into a relationship. Atleast, she wouldn't have to go through this once she is officially with him (because that hurts more).

Spot on 👏The fact is that Shaurya's jealousy only started when the ACP held Anokhi's hand. Before that he had no problem with him and even walked out, leaving Anokhi and him alone. But the second that he touched her, that's when all of a sudden he had a huge problem with him. This is another reason I hope they keep the ACP a positive character because it should not be portrayed that every single relationship between a guy and a girl immediately becomes romantically charged. They can be totally platonic and he can support her and Shaurya needs to be okay with that.

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Posted: 5 years ago
#22

Wonderful discussion!!


Uff. Shaurya has a lot to learn. And he has to start from basics. As much as a gentleman he might be in certain situations, he cant always have a free pass that ‘you instigated me and I responded impulsively. once i know my mistake, i will apologize genuinely’. A person’s maturity is when he doesn't let emotions cloud his thinking and learns from his mistakes. Anokhi though younger than him is far better at that. And it shows, because Aastha’s lesson from the night before, was already in effect. She spoke with him with a clear mind and with minimum to no bias in her head. But alas, this man cant match it. He certainly has to be a better person for her to fall in love, show her that he can open his mind to a probability that they will be equals in the relationship and she also comes with the same spirit in it as he does. Jealousy is understandable in young, insecure relationships (we dont even have that here) but to say something so demeaning to someone is unacceptable.

I completely agree with the point that he thinks he has to be the savior everywhere and that women cant be their own saviors (anokhi, kanchan incidences). I couldn't believe that even after the admission drama and everything Anokhi has done to attend lectures, etc, he had the audacity to say studying is not your ulterior motive. Mann, is your sensibility gone due to Badi Ma’s morning tea? I sometimes wonder, how did he develop his chauvinistic view? Was it included in Badi Ma’s ‘hating Astha’ package or has he picked it up on his own, from the family and society?!? Astha was a wholly new person in this family, she was right, if she had stayed there, she and her self-respect would have died.

Acp Aahir is a whole different story. Man should stop smiling so much and start helping people other than Anokhi and also stop walking into the physical space of people without critical reasons.

I liked the episode in all because it will take the story further. And i am looking forward to hear Anokhi’s part of the fight cause he doesn't know what’s coming for him. I wished though that instead of leaving college she should have completely disregarded him after this episode until he shows he has changed. But i don't think that will happen ever.

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Posted: 5 years ago
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As I said in a post yesterday, the entire premise of this show revolves around Shaurya's long held beliefs being challenged by his love for Anokhi. Till now we have been able to justify his actions because of his lonely childhood, his words today cannot be justified by that. Though his thinking definitely stems from the narrow minded upbringing of the Sabharwals, he must have got several opportunities to change that when he moved into the real world, met more people, learnt about the various schools of thought (given his educational background). But to change his mindset, he would have to open his mind. Nothing till now has made him do that. His anger towards Aastha has made him close his mind to any theory that could challenge his beliefs and justify her actions to even a little extent. He believes that men should assume the role of provider, protector and women the nurturer. If women try to take up the man's role, the balance will get disturbed and the family will be destroyed, like it happened with his family.

Shaurya definitely respects women and always acts as a gentleman. But he also expects women to be ladylike. Anokhi is not like that, still he is falling for her. He has also developed a sense of belonging to her. That is why he wants her to act in a way that will not challenge his beliefs and he doesn't suffer from internal conflict. But she does not, and he shoots his mouth off, attacking her in a way the gravity of which he himself does not realise.

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: Idiotboxer

As I said in a post yesterday, the entire premise of this show revolves around Shaurya's long held beliefs being challenged by his love for Anokhi. Till now we have been able to justify his actions because of his lonely childhood, his words today cannot be justified by that. Though his thinking definitely stems from the narrow minded upbringing of the Sabharwals, he must have got several opportunities to change that when he moved into the real world, met more people, learnt about the various schools of thought (given his educational background). But to change his mindset, he would have to open his mind. Nothing till now has made him do that. His anger towards Aastha has made him close his mind to any theory that could challenge his beliefs and justify her actions to even a little extent. He believes that men should assume the role of provider, protector and women the nurturer. If women try to take up the man's role, the balance will get disturbed and the family will be destroyed, like it happened with his family.

Shaurya definitely respects women and always acts as a gentleman. But he also expects women to be ladylike. Anokhi is not like that, still he is falling for her. He has also developed a sense of belonging to her. That is why he wants her to act in a way that will not challenge his beliefs and he doesn't suffer from internal conflict. But she does not, and he shoots his mouth off, attacking her in a way the gravity of which he himself does not realise.

@bold exactly! This is precisely why I believe that the jealousy was just fuel to push these darker thoughts out that are based on his core beliefs.

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: FortunaMajor

@ bold Ditto! 😆

@Red me too! Because one nobody deserves to be at the recieving end of this kind of anger neither Anokhi nor anybody else. Second, he is not the only one with a difficult childhood, Anokhi too has had an abusive home environment throughout her life she has seen the worst consequences of anger and doesn't deserve to be exhibited to it further because Shaurya cannot get his Sh** together (couldn't think of another word sorry😆).


somewhere they needed to address his core behavior of "Men being the problem solver" .. he may have fallen in love.. but he still needs to change.. to show whether he loves her enough to change

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Really loved your analysis.đŸ‘đŸŒ

Rightly said, finally Shaurya's chauvinistic character is getting out. He actually made up his mind to play the protector and pictured Anokhi as victim in his mind. Now that picture is not matching well with relaity. Moreover he also thinks that she moved on from him to ACP that is why he is getting agitated.

Whatever be the reason what he told her about her actual purpose was soo wrong and unexcusable.

Really hope he repents it badly. Not him saving her from cheating case and it all becoming hunky dory again.

Have better expectations from this show as women rights, dignity, stand is the main theme of this show.

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Posted: 5 years ago
#27

Everything that all of you have said is so on point!

Each one of you have brought out a different aspect of shaurya’s misogyny.

I can’t believe that his misogyny was pretty much there in front of us all the time, but it was hidden or masked (makes me appreciate the writing so much they really did succeed to write a masked misogynist whose misogyny is out in the open now which wasn’t visible before but was still there)

He likes to be a saviour and protector which seemed like gentlemanly behaviour to us (though not taking away that from him but the thought behind it runs deeper)

Even when he first saw ACP and anokhi together he said “kitni jaldi impress kar liya acp ko”

I didn’t pay much attention to that either and just attributed it to initial feeling of jeolousy and wanting to have her attention.

And the dialogues in the kidnapping part too like Chuna mat and all tab I felt it’s something he meant as protecting her since he felt that these guys are total creeps and might be potential rapists.

But it also came from a position of being territorial.

I know for one that his misogyny is definitely not limited to just prejudice but runs very deep and is definetely the shaurya shown to us in the promos; hence promos where indeed showing us the truth. (Oh how I wanted it to not be trueđŸ„ș)


The reason I feel it is coming out with anokhi is;

He has this differentiated boundary between his woman and other normal woman (idk how to word this I hope you get the point)

He would gladly play the role of saviour and a gentleman for any woman but when it comes to a woman he considers his (much more territorial Than I thought) , there are different rules applied to her. Basically a walking hypocrite. He is okay with career woman as long as it’s not his wife. He is all ears to listen to women who has an opposing opinion as long as it’s not his wife/ potential partner.

And With this, one fact is established he considers anokhi his to a point of not being able to see any guy with her. And unfortunately anokhi is going to be at the receiving end of it.

He is trying to control her and bind her subconsciously and when that isn’t happening blame her and her character.

Man, one episode and so much of his toxicity is revealed. I hope this is handled very very carefully.

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