Two Helpless Hearts - Page 11

Originally posted by: pamk06

Yes, Malini will always get sympathy because she is a victim too. Her journey to stand on her own two feet without the crutch of Adi love will as important as the other two because it’s an aspect that needs to happen for Aditya and Imlie to get their happily ever after without any guilt. They will never choose their happiness over hers. She is an inherent part of this story and a sensitive subject because there was a wedding so how they handle it will be very important so that there is no backlash on AdIlie.

Agree with you that right now it’s irritating because they are not able to figure out how to present her so that she seems wrong for Aditya. They are just using trial and error method and experimenting with her to see what will work rather than sticking to one graph and thats making it worse. They are just ending us showing her as an immature wife and bahu which she is not or should not be. May be they are doing it purposely so that there is no doubt in anybody’s mind who is the right fit for Aditya.

Yes, Malini is a victim of the larger situation since Adi dragged her into this by marrying her after marrying Imlie.....but what she is doing right now isn't even about a WIFE feeling neglected or slighted😆....woh hota toh phir bhi she would get more sympathy I suppose.....but no, she is playing up her martyr mode by once again claiming that Adi is going away from her, distancing himself from her.....she still really doesn't sound like a wife, more like a clingy girlfriend......where has she exhibited the right of a wife to say that Adi, you owe me this as a HUSBAND? No, it's always about the same tired spiel regarding "aap mujhse DOOR jaa rahe hain, aapne mujhe samjha nahin, aapne meri baat nahin maani" blah blah blah.

You're both talking about the larger storyline of whatever will happen to Malini when she starts to reach the realization that her and Adi aren't going to work out.....I'm talking about the immediate short term situation where the sympathy is fast eroding for her given all her current antics which are about pouty childish insecure tantrums more than a hurt wife.

Sure, they can still keep playing sad bg music on her pity party and whining scenes with any of the family members, but it's looking more and more artificial daily.....lol the makers lost their balance on Malini a while back or maybe it's deliberate only to show why she isn't right for Adi.....what the flaws are in their relationship. They both clearly aren't capable of maturely introspecting what's lacking b/w them so it's being played up through this martyr act melodrama of Malini's.

All I can see with these recent scenes is a more and more desperate Malini who will likely start doing more outlandish things in her insecurity....yeah Adi may come back, give her some pampering and she may be mollified for a bit again but the way he's left her this time and hasn't called her either is something that I think will remain in her and keep building up for whatever the next drama is......cuz the Adi that comes back doesn't seem like he's going to be able to be the same with her.....and she is showing a tendency now to be hyper about every little perceived change in him.

The family may try to push them together, guilt Adi as usual that he is not being fair to Malini who is his wife but I think Adi's eyes/heart will still keep seeking Imlie out....and Malini is not going to be fully satisfied anymore with whatever random mush/pampering facade he gives her short term.

Originally posted by: naadanmasakalli

Same thought about last point they are gonna make it more obv why taqdeer was right to give signs to adi to.back off caz this marzi ka bind was never meant to be..

Yep, ditto.....yeah they are showing all these scenes of Malini whining to everyone and needing assurance that Adi still loves her, but I think that train has left the station now😆.....a shift does indeed seem to be coming finally wherein Adi-Imlie will now grow closer and there will be that tadap of wanting to be with each other but then woh star-crossed angle hoga ki Malini ka kya karein😆....isse pehle tak Malini was between them as Adi's supposed choice.....now Malini will be between them as a majboori from both sides with both of them feeling guilty about supposedly doing wrong with Malini.

So ab guilt and tadap will take on new shades I think.....just remains to be seen how long they think they can drag Malini ka yeh pouty martyr act as something that makes her entitled to Adi😆.

Originally posted by: AreYaar

@bold: THIS....well I don't know if we can call him a CHARMING teacher since he mostly keeps scolding her in irritation while teaching her also😆....but word on the apnapan with which he teaches her....I think the most notable thing for me in all this is that Adi does everything related to Imlie with so much personal interest....even the matter of teaching her, he doesn't take casually....he is fully involved and seriously focused in that like he has a personal stake in wanting her to succeed.😆 itna dhons jamata hai but still actually cares so much about her getting it right itna pyar hain iss daantmain bhi when he is like you are doing it on purpose theek se karo you know it.. or when ghusse main phatak di her book and then still went on in flow to call her finishing the sentence correct ek dum jaise it was and improvisation by both of them and flow main they didi as not part of thr scene with her finishing finishing sentence after and him going correct and then giving her woh shaking his head wali looks. Ek dum real Home tutor wali vibe who aren't experts and as much as they want to be patient ek do dafah ke baad patience jaane lagta hai ke why aren't you getting it.... they beautifully play this new dynamic between them. It is almost as if he is enjoying to an extent revising all that again along with her..

This is what stands out from his relationship with Malini where he's never really taken a personal interest in anything beyond the general pampering and coddling....it seems like he does that on autopilot now but every new layer that gets revealed with Imlie is one that is coming from a more genuine place inside him......MARZI is the keyword as it was noted in yesterday's episode also....it is his WILL now to want to do all this for Imlie ekdum mann se.....while with Malini, it always comes from a place of obligation.

I also think it's worth mentioning that any genuine relationship/marriage ultimately IS about TEACHING each other.....LEARNING from each other. Zindagi itni lambi agar saath mein kaatni hai toh you have to have the ability to teach each other and learn from each other. Malini, despite being an educator herself has not managed to do this with Adi. And that is the key ek dusre se seekhing ek dusre ke saath seekhing.. if she is learning actual course stuff he is learning to keep.patience to not lose it at the first mistake of hers other than the broader ek dusre ke.experiences se seekhna.. and they are well on track to learn that and to adjust themselves according to these learnings. Bless.

Adi may have been the one teaching Imlie in this scene but she managed to school him at many points during the scene too😆 yup along with theory practical things too hahah while her words did the theoratical parts her actions did the practical part haha

And I have to agree....I'm hard pressed to see how this Adi goes back to the one he was before....this change is here to stay.

Originally posted by: MuteButton

@bold - agree. I think they tried going the whole fragile route in the beginning and that did not work out too well. Now they cannot make her the villain so they are trying to get her to be delusional? Or possessive? Or just plain fake is what I am unable to understand. If they wanted to go for the outwardly confident but innately insecure woman, I am not seeing that. Insecurities does not make one incompatible. She is petulant one moment, compassionate the next, benevolent at times but the only constant is her dragging Aditya down. How do you even befriend, forget marrying, someone who does that to you on a regular basis? Are we to assume that Aditya had so many hidden insecurities himself that he did not feel bad about being subject to such behavior in the past?

She changed overnight and that abruptness is not doing justice to her character.

You're probably not seeing that cuz she barely goes to work😆.

I think they are ultimately going to go for Malini as a fundamentally WEAK personality who has latched on to Adi to the point of being unhealthily obsessed with him....all the other things they show of her personality like her compassion/benevolence/sweet gestures.....those are all fleeting....the only constant theme they keep coming back to is how WEAK she is emotionally and mentally.....and how much she uses Adi as a CRUTCH for those emotions in her.....

LOL Adi didn't even think that deeply about his life before.....Malini was a beautiful woman who understood that he puts work before everything else.....that was enough for him to think she's a good match for him😆. Once they were committed, I think he just started to feel an obligation to manage her emotional hangups and now it's become a heavier weight on his shoulders than he had imagined. Imlie showed up in the middle of all this so they will put the blame on her but these issues would have come up sooner or later on their own also.

As I said a few days back, Malini is a prop as a character in many ways right now....I'm not sure how much of her own journey she will manage to have but for now, she is a pretty hollow character right now who just uses people as emotional crutches rather than being a strength for someone. Let's see if she manages to evolve beyond that later.

Forumwasi khana bhool jayen ajkal par rating karna na bhulpayenge🤣

Originally posted by: AreYaar

Yes, Malini is a victim of the larger situation since Adi dragged her into this by marrying her after marrying Imlie.....but what she is doing right now isn't even about a WIFE feeling neglected or slighted😆....woh hota toh phir bhi she would get more sympathy I suppose.....but no, she is playing up her martyr mode by once again claiming that Adi is going away from her, distancing himself from her.....she still really doesn't sound like a wife, more like a clingy girlfriend......where has she exhibited the right of a wife to say that Adi, you owe me this as a HUSBAND? No, it's always about the same tired spiel regarding "aap mujhse DOOR jaa rahe hain, aapne mujhe samjha nahin, aapne meri baat nahin maani" blah blah blah.

You're both talking about the larger storyline of whatever will happen to Malini when she starts to reach the realization that her and Adi aren't going to work out.....I'm talking about the immediate short term situation where the sympathy is fast eroding for her given all her current antics which are about pouty childish insecure tantrums more than a hurt wife.

Sure, they can still keep playing sad bg music on her pity party and whining scenes with any of the family members, but it's looking more and more artificial daily.....lol the makers lost their balance on Malini a while back or maybe it's deliberate only to show why she isn't right for Adi.....what the flaws are in their relationship. They both clearly aren't capable of maturely introspecting what's lacking b/w them so it's being played up through this martyr act melodrama of Malini's.

All I can see with these recent scenes is a more and more desperate Malini who will likely start doing more outlandish things in her insecurity....yeah Adi may come back, give her some pampering and she may be mollified for a bit again but the way he's left her this time and hasn't called her either is something that I think will remain in her and keep building up for whatever the next drama is......cuz the Adi that comes back doesn't seem like he's going to be able to be the same with her.....and she is showing a tendency now to be hyper about every little perceived change in him.

The family may try to push them together, guilt Adi as usual that he is not being fair to Malini who is his wife but I think Adi's eyes/heart will still keep seeking Imlie out....and Malini is not going to be fully satisfied anymore with whatever random mush/pampering facade he gives her short term.

+1 I am seriously starting to wonder if all this is stemming from the live action she saw at the bridge site.. even if they would've added the FB of that somewhere between her rants it would have given her slight credibility that because she saw that and then imlie went missing and his rant at her mention and then ghosting malini afterwards her rants would've made a bit of sense but at this point she really doesn't have anything working for her caz she just keeps making a show a scene over the fact that he left and didn't tell her where he was going or called her.. see these small things make a difference in making audience connect which makes me thing they are deliberately building this she is annoying to the core and nautanki baaz insecure mess of a woman who likes to have a public show and enjoys humiliating her husband casually in front of anyone who would offer her a hand and keep putting herself above all.. this really isn't about am hurt anymore it is about am flawless and saare problems adi main hain. Did she even once thought about her behavior for him to react like this and the constant choking she does to him with him not being allowed to take an extra breathe beyond the quota she allows for the day either.. clearly now.. caz she has given him extra space on her head when reality is totally different then that hence he always remained aloof and used to.randomly take off before too whenever needed caz he just probably couldn't even then had the capability of dealing with her suffocating ways for.more than a day or 2

Originally posted by: naadanmasakalli

+1 I am seriously starting to wonder if all this is stemming from the live action she saw at the bridge site.. even if they would've added the FB of that somewhere between her rants it would have given her slight credibility that because she saw that and then imlie went missing and his rant at her mention and then ghosting malini afterwards her rants would've made a bit of sense but at this point she really doesn't have anything working for her caz she just keeps making a show a scene over the fact that he left and didn't tell her where he was going or called her.. see these small things make a difference in making audience connect which makes me thing they are deliberately building this she is annoying to the core and nautanki baaz insecure mess of a woman who likes to have a public show and enjoys humiliating her husband casually in front of anyone who would offer her a hand and keep putting herself above all.. this really isn't about am hurt anymore it is about am flawless and saare problems adi main hain. Did she even once thought about her behavior for him to react like this and the constant choking she does to him with him not being allowed to take an extra breathe beyond the quota she allows for the day either.. clearly now.. caz she has given him extra space on her head when reality is totally different then that hence he always remained aloof and used to.randomly take off before too whenever needed caz he just probably couldn't even then had the capability of dealing with her suffocating ways for.more than a day or 2

That's a good point....and yes, I also agree if she had shown all these reactions after the bridge incident, it would have made more sense. But she didn't say anything then and kept up the mahaanta/trust act.

Now she's over-reacting over a much smaller thing....so in some ways it is consistent with how Malini generally has been....she never introspects about the bigger issues b/w her and Adi and always over-reacts on the small ones as signs of "Aditya door jaa rahe hain".

It could be as you said, that in her head she thinks by not reacting on the BIGGER incidents, she is making "accommodations" for Adi/giving him "space"😆, so then she feels more "betrayed" if he doesn't go along with her "smaller" demands.....cuz that is what it's coming across as right now....the few FBs she's gotten are mainly about the recent arguments and then she just had one FB of their class difference argument......bridge wala incident which was a way bigger thing is still not being shown in her head.....lol so either she is compartmentalizing or she's clueless.

This is just a very twisted and unhealthy way to conduct a marriage or even any relationship actually.....ki andar baatein dabaa ke rakho, then behave like someone owes you something because you didn't react on some things😕.

Originally posted by: naadanmasakalli

and that's it for today 😆 as much as i want to gif more am tired:) plus since i started adding texts it takes forever idk how AY does it and has been doing since forever 🤗🤗 so much more respect Yaara

Haha this is why it takes me so long to gif and I'm always behind na😆.....is show ke saath toh discussion threads run so long and I'm just too exhausted to gif the same day😆....

But lovely gifs as always, Fary! 🤗....tum daily banaa leti ho, you have more stamina than me😆

Originally posted by: AreYaar

Haha this is why it takes me so long to gif and I'm always behind na😆.....is show ke saath toh discussion threads run so long and I'm just too exhausted to gif the same day😆....

But lovely gifs as always, Fary! 🤗....tum daily banaa leti ho, you have more stamina than me😆

The Harder part is for them you have to kinda do the whole scene caz every dialgue has a meaning faltu nahi hita kuch most of the time so it gets difficult to pick and choose which takes forever 😆 .

Bas aaj ho gaya tha mera.. lol it's ok ca tum jab bhi karogi they will be worth it waise bhinyahan kaunsa people actually use your stuff ke nayr stuff ke saath purine main effort waste hogi..🤷‍♀️ hikare archives ke loye apne timing se sahi hai😆

Originally posted by: naadanmasakalli

Only these 2 namoonas can find paap in this and their NN🤣🤣

I loved how beautifully this was done too ek dum normal without adding hyperventilation waale factors and how they behaved after even with their thoughts ke itne Kareeb kyon aa gaye even though kuch tba nahi inke liye itna bhi awkward feel karne wala 😆 pehle wale babusahib jhalla ke haath chudhate but he was almost pleasantly surprised initially and itne aaram se watching her mumbling I'm her sleep waiting for her to leave his hand hahba adorable munchkins 😍🤩😘

I forgot to reply to this before but yes, word to what an understated manner they showed this in.....ek sense of awareness bhi tha without going overboard.

On the flip side, it's also worth noting that it was a sign of their comfort level that they fell asleep next to each other after staying up half the night studying....matlab imagine inko itna bhi hosh nahin raha ki padhte padhte so gaye😆.......and it was indicative of their current dynamic also....they have come closer, but Imlie was the one holding on to his arm and cuddling into it more too, showing that she's the one who's been holding on to their bond for the longer time.....and Adi hesitated for a long moment not wanting to disturb her sleep so this shows that shift in him too....previous Adi would have abruptly pulled his arm away in a flash😆.