2 cents on where serial going wrong🤨 - Page 2

Originally posted by: Priya12000

The problem i feel is not glorifying kabir..i feel it is undermining vansh. I don't see any glorification of kabir actually..

But vansh no longer being proactive is the problem..The sunny track was beautifully executed and for the first and maybe the last time we saw the mastermind vansh..The problem after that is that vansh became reactive to all the situation..

I agree...some of the people accusing riddhima of asking help from kabir, giving that as a reason for low trp was all stupid in my opinion.. the re marriage itself was a facade and it was something both vansh and riddhima knew

I loved the fact that both of them were not emotionally into this rasams and rituals and all.. both knew the other had ulterior motives. While one brought the subject of re marriage to distract her, she in turn used to rituals to get her job down..Takkar ki jodis is we call them and its not for nothing

I personally feel that kabir taking charge is not the problem..in the DSR track also he took charge..but what we want to see vansh having a upper hand. Thats all..he should be aware of the situation now rather than trying to salvage it at the end.

I am absolutely loving the current track even the pregnancy one and i love the mature vulnerable vansh that was showed in today's episode..

Just hoping that we see a mastermind vansh in front of kabir and there are no new loopholes in the show. People chose IMMj because of his unique concept..the makers need to know if we wanted drama we would have chosen a ekta mata show.

I have already said in my post..The problem with the makers is that they wanted to have a the trp aunties to watch the show so they kept showing Torture riddhima scenes..but all it did was drive away the people who was already watching the show.

In short, disregarding what they had in their hand, they aimed for the skies..at the end they could never reach it and in the process they lost what they had in their hand as well.

Actually you are pin pointing that word glorification in literal sense but what I am saying is that enough already happened,after sunny track as you said 130 episodes almost passed in the wait of seeing vansh taking action but it never happened....as you are saying upper hand should be of vansh I am also saying the same but what actually happening is that vansh and kabir are not even appearing on same footing,it all coming out as kabir's plan,his active planning and plotting irrespective of end result,I know they most of the time show vansh winning but how by coincidence I mean like seriously they shown him super smart and smart people plans not depends on luck...here in his life it seems everything is only mere coincidence...and seriously most of us not signed up for this so it automatically feel like kabir is in charge and I actually want vansh to be in charge he could let others play ignore them but at least keep a tab on them how can he be so oblivious...even normal people are not such oblivious even before going to exam for last time before leaving I again check whether I have kept every necessary item and didn't forget anything and everything is correct and he went to such a big deal without any preparation without checking this can't be vansh rai singhania they promised me as a viewer.

Now coming to last track as well as present track yeah if I watch it purely as a love story ignoring MM vansh than yeah they are actually doing very good job they are showing progression in their relationship...no doubt in it executing it nicely also.But again I will say along with mature love story I signed up for THE VRS...where is he...?

I donot say he plan everytime...but atleast most of the time but here not getting even one time...such a put off it is....

I can connect to him as a normal human being love story but again I am not watching for that I am here to see a larger than life character which they shown me and lured me into this serial...how could they forget this....I accept that such characters are not in real life but are not watching to see real life character also...ironman can't be real people loved him,maheshmati kingdom can't be real but people loved baahubali...people love things which are not possible humanly to be read in novels see on tv screens,movies,so I want that super smart vansh back....

@UL-I agree with this I never tolerated that riddhima torture phase it was cringeworthy...

They have to understood that their genre is targetting very different audience...

Originally posted by: ILTHBEB

Basically keeping kabir in VR mansion before vansh's eyes but showing vansh is clueless about kabir's whereabouts what he doing behind his eyes etc are called to glorify kabir & to glorify kabir cvs deliberately showing vansh is weak character & damaged character.

Yeah exactly my point...

Its not in sense glorification but coming out as glorification...

Originally posted by: Barbiebarbie11

Nephia brilliant post👏👏👏

Vansh ka toh mein ser phodti abi😡

Kabir ko laat maar k nikalti🤬😡

Thank you Annie...

Yeah I agree what we expected from his character we are not getting it altogether one thing sums up...

Originally posted by: ILTHBEB

Basically keeping kabir in VR mansion before vansh's eyes but showing vansh is clueless about kabir's whereabouts what he doing behind his eyes etc are called to glorify kabir & to glorify kabir cvs deliberately showing vansh is weak character & damaged character.

I agree..but i don't know if the makers' intention was to glorify kabir or it is coming out as glorification to us.

Originally posted by: Nephy

Actually you are pin pointing that word glorification in literal sense but what I am saying is that enough already happened,after sunny track as you said 130 episodes almost passed in the wait of seeing vansh taking action but it never happened....as you are saying upper hand should be of vansh I am also saying the same but what actually happening is that vansh and kabir are not even appearing on same footing,it all coming out as kabir's plan,his active planning and plotting irrespective of end result,I know they most of the time show vansh winning but how by coincidence I mean like seriously they shown him super smart and smart people plans not depends on luck...here in his life it seems everything is only mere coincidence...and seriously most of us not signed up for this so it automatically feel like kabir is in charge and I actually want vansh to be in charge he could let others play ignore them but at least keep a tab on them how can he be so oblivious...even normal people are not such oblivious even before going to exam for last time before leaving I again check whether I have kept every necessary item and didn't forget anything and everything is correct and he went to such a big deal without any preparation without checking this can't be vansh rai singhania they promised me as a viewer.

Now coming to last track as well as present track yeah if I watch it purely as a love story ignoring MM vansh than yeah they are actually doing very good job they are showing progression in their relationship...no doubt in it executing it nicely also.But again I will say along with mature love story I signed up for THE VRS...where is he...?

I donot say he plan everytime...but atleast most of the time but here not getting even one time...such a put off it is....

I can connect to him as a normal human being love story but again I am not watching for that I am here to see a larger than life character which they shown me and lured me into this serial...how could they forget this....I accept that such characters are not in real life but are not watching to see real life character also...ironman can't be real people loved him,maheshmati kingdom can't be real but people loved baahubali...people love things which are not possible humanly to be read in novels see on tv screens,movies,so I want that super smart vansh back....

@UL-I agree with this I never tolerated that riddhima torture phase it was cringeworthy...

They have to understood that their genre is targetting very different audience...

I think there is a difference in interpretation of the word "glorification" thats all..the remaining points i think we pretty much mean the same thing.

To me i never want vansh to always be a mastermind..i understand all of his phases be it revengeful, vulnerable, the lover..

But at this point, in this track I want him to have an upper hand because its high time..there must be a plan up his sleeve..kabir wants to double cross the family.i want vansh to turn the tables and defeat kabir at his own game..

Originally posted by: Priya12000

I think there is a difference in interpretation of the word "glorification" thats all..the remaining points i think we pretty much mean the same thing.

To me i never want vansh to always be a mastermind..i understand all of his phases be it revengeful, vulnerable, the lover..

But at this point, in this track I want him to have an upper hand because its high time..there must be a plan up his sleeve..kabir wants to double cross the family.i want vansh to turn the tables and defeat kabir at his own game..

Yup I agree not all time mastermind but the problem is since sunny track...he was never shown to be one...he can loose one two time but most of the time he should be in charge becoz thats how we love him...

I agree its high time now...he needs to tackle kabir in his way and there should be elaborate planning and plotting not again a mere coincidence I am hoping right now....

According to me,too much of romance without proper base and trust is where they are going wrong..

After the revenge drama,Vansh got Ridhhima so easily and then Ridhhima started distrusting him again.. made no sense to anyone.

Its said "too many cook spoil the broth" ..

Showing too much of romance without any base or a proper storyline and storytelling is not working!

Originally posted by: kuhelidebbarma

According to me,too much of romance without proper base and trust is where they are going wrong..

After the revenge drama,Vansh got Ridhhima so easily and then Ridhhima started distrusting him again.. made no sense to anyone.

Its said "too many cook spoil the broth" ..

Showing too much of romance without any base or a proper storyline and storytelling is not working!

Hmm I agree with your point...I actually write in one of my long posts on twitter yesterday that what makers think of us as some kind of desperate people that they will show romantic scenes and in return will show whatever thing without no head and tail....

But I written this post by taking riddhima's parents track individually,I mean detaching it from that track becoz If I will consider that track and how it ends fir toh I can't even watch this serial at all...I always says whenever I remember that,boils my blood till now...

I was talking with perspective when people gave chance again to serial by forgetting that particular revenge track as we were forced to forget viva track....

Being nicely written and executed what could go wrong ..

What you have written is also a major reason it brought their trp to 1.3 and I am talking what take it to 1.1 in riddhima parents truth track...

Originally posted by: Nephy

Hmm I agree with your point...I actually write in one of my long posts on twitter yesterday that what makers think of us as some kind of desperate people that they will show romantic scenes and in return will show whatever thing without no head and tail....

But I written this post by taking riddhima's parents track individually,I mean detaching it from that track becoz If I will consider that track and how it ends fir toh I can't even watch this serial at all...I always says whenever I remember that,boils my blood till now...

I was talking with perspective when people gave chance again to serial by forgetting that particular revenge track as we were forced to forget viva track....

Being nicely written and executed what could go wrong ..

What you have written is also a major reason it brought their trp to 1.3 and I am talking what take it to 1.1 in riddhima parents truth track...

Also,an unpopular opinion..

According to me,its high time Vansh and Ridhhima get separated..

I mean not divorce,but at least Ridhhima is shown dead but actually alive or some other thing..

RIANSH seriously need a break from each other.

Its time to show their pain, longing and agony for each other.

This kuchi-koo romance is indigestible for me!

I didn't follow IMMJ2 from start.

Started watching it from near by the shoot out episode.loved it.

Watched all the previous episodes.

For me the USP definitely will be

Riansh

Characterization of Vansh

Thrill factor

Here's why I think it's getting messed up or could have been better:

1. Unnecessary stretching of the Ragini track. That too without proper closure.

Again if they streched it for that long they could have done little more with it ... She actually being alive giving proof regarding Anupriya.

They just killed her off in one day and kissa close. ( Kabir won big time)

2. One mistake I think was Vansh falling off the Cliff.

It was not required at that point

And even it was introduced , audience expected it to be a master plan by Vansh

But again nothing as such happened.

It just came and went without any explanation.

Vansh was as clueless as audience.

The mighty VRS just jumped off a cliff on his own accord without any plans.

And magically got saved too.

3. Vihaan ( major mess up by makers)

Vihaan track could have gone really well with Vansh doing his planning behind the scenes, at the same time trying to access the secrets of Ridhhima and finding the real culprits.

But they should have revealed ( to audience atleast) Vihaan was Vansh which would have made audience more acceptable of the track.

But this just ended like poof... He didn't even find the culprit by plans

Just that he overhead Anupriya... what!!!? 100+ episodes regarding how she will be exposed and this is what we get!!!!

And even he trusted Anupriya. Considered her mom... No proper reaction was shown ...

How do makers miss out these details!

4. Then then then the infamous 'revenge track'

See keeping in mind that it was always shown Vansh values loyalty the most ... And Ridhhima at the base line did betray and lie to him.

Misunderstanding and revenge was in the cards. Of course this is itv everything can't be well and good and sorted. Drama to chahiye.

But the execution was bad.

Like the timing especially was horrible.

If they wanted to show revenge why show Ridhhima take another bullet for him.Why show the SR. that was WRONG MOVE. By this Audience connected or sympathised more with Ridhhima than understanding Vansh for his revenge motive.

Also the cruel ways he followed to take revenge were a little too much.

( Also my personal opinion - if they wanted to go the misunderstanding and revenge way they could have introduced after Ragini got killed there was no use of cliff and Vihaan track at the end of misunderstanding track Anupriya could have been exposed and all would have returned to good)

5. Ahana- biggest mistake

She was not required AT ALL.

did more damage than good.

And her engagement with Kabir

That went no were ... Why did they show that engagement Is a mystery.

6. They should have shown Vansh repenting a little more. Forgiven too soon.( Though am okay with that now)

7. The parents track I liked

Good story and not unnecessary dragging.

8.Mafia - good that they introduced Mafia angle again.refreshing change.

But don't like how Kabir is shown to be the mastermind every time.

9.love triangle - I was eager to see this track. Though it was sudden how Kabir achanak got all this obsessive and in love. Could have been gradual.

Vansh and Kabir Tashan for Ridhhima.

Possessiveness, obsession, jealousy fights...

But don't know if we are going to see that.

10.

Pregnancy- I really really don't want to see pregnancy track now.

Mostly because that feels like they can end the story and also I feel lot of other angles can be shown before pregnancy.

Vansh now has a new enemy chang...

We can see some action how he deals with enemies ...may be save his family/ Ridz

Side by side Kabir planning ( but not winning always)

RiAnsh scenes...

So many things are there.

They haven't even had their anniversaryy pregnancy so soon!

11.

Again I agree that ,these days they are changing thr track like costumes not sure where it is headed.

They should stick to the story and try out a little longer before wrapping it up abruptly.

12.And the supporting cast are definitely not getting utilised well.

Angre is seemingly more and more useless as the day pass.

Ishani/ Aryan- have no motive of their own. Just illogical hatred and creating troubles for Ridhhima.

Dadi and Sia - are the only ones little tolerable now.

Chacha/chachi - they appear and disappear without explanation.

They can actually use ChaCha to depict another strong villain show flash back stories regarding why he became negative or anything.

Really do feel makers think deeper and revamp the story.

It's high time otherwise seeing the trps ,we will lose a show with so much potential.

P.S. also they don't need to introduce a party / function everytime to bring a highpoint or expose a secret. They can been done normally too... I like parties but they have become a little Too Many. Every 2 days 1 party.