2 cents on where serial going wrong🤨

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Posted: 5 years ago
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So it is about last week's episode and trp going down.

I have watched last week's episode which I missed as everyone saying they were good after trp came so I decided to watch and yes I was amazed that I was going to miss nice episodes,I watched in continuity also so it may also hava affect and other thing now I know vansh indeed is a Mafia so I don't even felt like laughing at his scenes for acting like one like bursting bottles and hand cuffing scenes and all.

Now coming to episodes,I must say after viva track I guess these episodes were well written and the most beautiful thing about these are they conversing even,yeah you can connect to both the characters,even confronting each other after sangeet over JC truth and giving dadi truth serum,subtly it was written as well as it was also nicely portrayed that are not exactly against each other like Ragini's,they both were with each other still trying to protect each other and hold on to relationship as well as wanting some answers due to her reasons and other stopping due to his reasons.

I don't know how to comment on Riddhima taking finally help from kabir becoz i knew it was coming so maybe not felt much about it but I can get her desperation to find truth more than indulging in marriage and yeah I don't find it her ignoring her marriage with vansh or being insensitive towards him,she was desperate more than vansh to be proven wrong,its not she don't love him,it was like she doesn't want to love him with a guilt or moreover she herself doesn't want to be her love being any less due to some unwanted truth for vansh.

Now coming to vansh,you can understand from where he is coming from he got stuck he doesn't want that truth to come out becoz he doesn't want his sister to suffer to be tagged as murder just to protect her he spent 4 years in JC but at the same time he was afraid her marriage falling apart,he thought he could control the situation,he could divert Riddhima's attention but little he knew that it was letting her suffocate,when he realized he was broken as much as her not her accusing but her suffocation.

Oh God these episodes were beautiful.

And I must say again amd again these episodes would have done wonders on trp charts if it was between purely in RiAnsh,see again and again Kabir's glorification is costing them now....I watched episodes just purely how their equation changed but again it was whole orchestrated by Kabir,and kind of kabir again feeling puppeteer leaving bad taste,if he remained in background rather actively participating,and it be purely their equation,I think people would have loved it.

Thay have to get this point straight I know villians are required but when you portray your lead strong you have to maintain it,now whatever hapoens villian can play but lead has to have upper hand at not last moment,situation should be always in control,not actively taking action but be vary about something is going on.

This Kabir glorification of theirs will be their doom.

Such nice episodes it were but I missed those episodes just frustrated with kabir glorificationand I feel many could have same problem as me it had initial vansh back in mannerism but still him being clueless about kabir was a put off and people will not accept it.

Watched yesterday night episodes couldn't stop myself from giving my viewpoint,

I found this only reason for less trp despite being good episode and that is somewhere Kabir taking centre stage and vansh not acting according to his initial self,he became vansh of Riddhima but where is proper VRS,they still gave mafia,still their track is good,insecurities of vansh have to be shown becoz now his life is chabged he had to adjust his love and in coming years his child in this dangerous world of his and him being tensed about it is understandable,if they had any conflict over baby it could be another equation in their relationship thats it as Riddhima being happy and having child is understood and vansh not wanting child is also understood.

But again problem lies there,why they are not maintaing vrs along with an husband working in mafia world,how could he be so clueless through whole diamond deal,how kabir is again and again outsmart him,it seriously irritates,look if they want trp they had to make people watch every episode and they are literally shoving kabir on audiences.I atleast feel like this.



What you guys think,pls share....

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Apt post 👏

I started watching this serial because of VRS who was there in first 50 episodes. Mafia, obsessive, mastermind Vansh, who knew not all but atleast many things from the start.


Someone who almost always wins, whatever maybe the circumstances. Initial episodes were like that.


Now recent episodes are also good, they are getting back on track but the major problem here is whatever Riansh do, it always looks like Kabir is winning. And Riansh are his puppet.


I mean why would Vansh say " agar Kabir nahi hota to..."



I just hope that whatever happened during Chang was Mastermind VR's plan where he did 1 tir se do nishane something.


He handled many such dealings till now and came out unscathed maintaining his white collared businessman identity intact. So why suddenly he got hurt during dealing just because of Kabir?


And where are his bodyguards? They are missing after his first 2 episodes😆

Edited by Vampgirl - 5 years ago
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Posted: 5 years ago
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Nephy 👏👏

You have put each and every point

We loved last week episodes . They both were confronting each other and not playing games behind . We all appreciated that there is growth in their relationship

As you said villian is needed but at same tym makers has introduced us with VRS who could sense people , the mastermind if we watch initial episodes u can sense that is bnde main kuch baat hai


But makers have forgotten their own script

And even if they wanna keep suspense and ll . The audience is holding back from long back

Just give 1 episodes where vansh discuss his plans if has some

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Nice post 👏👏

The only thing lacking is The VR who can sense danger as well as what's going in other persons mind by just looking at him/her.

When V gave credits to K for saving him I was like🤨🤨 They should show mastermind V who can play his every move smartly like he was in initial episodes. But I think makers are now understanding and are slowly returning us the Vansh we loved.

And about trp, this show is mostly watched by youngsters who are low in number comparing to TRP aunties who liked to watch that show Imlie in which fl is doing Aarti of ml's pic.😏

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Posted: 5 years ago
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The problem i feel is not glorifying kabir..i feel it is undermining vansh. I don't see any glorification of kabir actually..

But vansh no longer being proactive is the problem..The sunny track was beautifully executed and for the first and maybe the last time we saw the mastermind vansh..The problem after that is that vansh became reactive to all the situation..

I agree...some of the people accusing riddhima of asking help from kabir, giving that as a reason for low trp was all stupid in my opinion.. the re marriage itself was a facade and it was something both vansh and riddhima knew

I loved the fact that both of them were not emotionally into this rasams and rituals and all.. both knew the other had ulterior motives. While one brought the subject of re marriage to distract her, she in turn used to rituals to get her job down..Takkar ki jodis is we call them and its not for nothing

I personally feel that kabir taking charge is not the problem..in the DSR track also he took charge..but what we want to see vansh having a upper hand. Thats all..he should be aware of the situation now rather than trying to salvage it at the end.

I am absolutely loving the current track even the pregnancy one and i love the mature vulnerable vansh that was showed in today's episode..

Just hoping that we see a mastermind vansh in front of kabir and there are no new loopholes in the show. People chose IMMj because of his unique concept..the makers need to know if we wanted drama we would have chosen a ekta mata show.

I have already said in my post..The problem with the makers is that they wanted to have a the trp aunties to watch the show so they kept showing Torture riddhima scenes..but all it did was drive away the people who was already watching the show.

In short, disregarding what they had in their hand, they aimed for the skies..at the end they could never reach it and in the process they lost what they had in their hand as well.

Edited by Priya12000 - 5 years ago
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Posted: 5 years ago
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Nephia brilliant post👏👏👏


Vansh ka toh mein ser phodti abi😡

Kabir ko laat maar k nikalti🤬😡

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: Vampgirl

Apt post 👏

I started watching this serial because of VRS who was there in first 50 episodes. Mafia, obsessive, mastermind Vansh, who knew not all but atleast many things from the start.


Someone who almost always wins, whatever maybe the circumstances. Initial episodes were like that.


Now recent episodes are also good, they are getting back on track but the major problem here is whatever Riansh do, it always looks like Kabir is winning. And Riansh are his puppet.


I mean why would Vansh say " agar Kabir nahi hota to..."



I just hope that whatever happened during Chang was Mastermind VR's plan where he did 1 tir se do nishane something.


He handled many such dealings till now and came out unscathed maintaining his white collared businessman identity intact. So why suddenly he got hurt during dealing just because of Kabir?


And where are his bodyguards? They are missing after his first 2 episodes😆

@I-yeah thats my point he is not into this business recently how could he become so oblivious to surroundings...its not feeling right...

You are exactly right about the reason for watching this show mine is same...I came to like RiAnsh much later,I actually was not on any social media platform at that time I didn't know whose pairing people loved more so I was not even clear whether he is Male lead ot villian still I loved him,watched serial for him when their marriage happened than I got idea of pair...but till than also I enjoyed show thoroughly becoz of Vansh...now people can call it my obsession with vansh character,I was hurt when they butchered his core characteristics in Revenge track,they lost my vansh there more than way of revenge,I was dukhi with this....I always says if not exactly as initial 50 episodes but somewhere near to them they can maintain vansh character I can tolerate anything happily even their huge loopholes but I can't see him being proven dumb again and again...he went to a deal and was so outlooked regarding the surroundings that he didn't bothered to check diamonds even after kabir asking whats in guitar🤓 went their without any plan and was in a kind rescued by kabir🤔oho yaar its too much to tolerate seriously hoping that even if there is 0.1% chance pls show it otherwise....

Now coming to the present track....I don't know why are they mixing so much scenarios let handle one at a time..

I personally feel for now they should have concentrated on triangle track with kabir's new found psychoness and vansh obsession and them fighting head on and not kabir over powering him again for riddhima with her parents truth looming around on whole fight after that they could give kabir break for some days and start this mafia world angle ...initially I had problem with pregnancy track but after reading updates I get what they are trying to show and it is a potential track but should be after this triangle track...they could have shown normal meeting where the other mafia betrays him leading to life threatening situations vansh injured but getting out of their on his own not like now whole thing played by kabir and start to fear for his life for riddhima and not wanting baby and riddhima getting pregnant and it could go simultaneously how he tackle his enemies in mafia world as The ruthless VRS and act as a husband who loves his wife very much in delimma regarding whole pregnancy....

But don't know what they are doing....people say wait...wait...ab 200 episode tak wait kar liya aur kya wait...seedha hi bol do last episode tak wait krna hai...kaam khatam kro....

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: Navdeep_08

Nephy 👏👏

You have put each and every point

We loved last week episodes . They both were confronting each other and not playing games behind . We all appreciated that there is growth in their relationship

As you said villian is needed but at same tym makers has introduced us with VRS who could sense people , the mastermind if we watch initial episodes u can sense that is bnde main kuch baat hai


But makers have forgotten their own script

And even if they wanna keep suspense and ll . The audience is holding back from long back

Just give 1 episodes where vansh discuss his plans if has some

Thank you Nav...

@b-yeah exactly my point...why they had completely forgotten that they not introduced vansh as some arrogant bisinessman to us having past baggages but oblivious to things since first episode....he was shown to be someone keeping everyone even his family on radar...where is he...loving riddhima was not meant that they took saying pyaar andha hota hai in every literal sense...

If this diamond is actually as shown to be kabir's plan and vansh oblivious to it...it is surely a big put off...becoz they can't go forward everytime with showing vansh dumb amd starting a potentially new track on its basis it makes loose interest...

They should have to get it people love vansh more than even RiAnsh...and playing with his characters for keeping kabir and making a track is not going to work we were asking for mafia vansh means for the very same reasons we fell into love with him it will not work that they give mafia but take out other essence of his character...

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: Drna

Nice post 👏👏

The only thing lacking is The VR who can sense danger as well as what's going in other persons mind by just looking at him/her.

When V gave credits to K for saving him I was like🤨🤨 They should show mastermind V who can play his every move smartly like he was in initial episodes. But I think makers are now understanding and are slowly returning us the Vansh we loved.

And about trp, this show is mostly watched by youngsters who are low in number comparing to TRP aunties who liked to watch that show Imlie in which fl is doing Aarti of ml's pic.😏

Thank you...

Yeah I agree they have to take into consideration that the audience of their serial is altogether different genre...and they love vansh smart and having upper hand on his enemies can act oblivious till he feel them they are big big danger but not actually be oblivious giving them upper hand....

He should be prepared not actively acting but could turn the game if he feels they are going to harm him or his family showing who is the boss..

But whole diamond deal turned out a big disappointment....

But as you said they are returning him back possible they explain it now this deal as vansh plan....

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: Priya12000

The problem i feel is not glorifying kabir..i feel it is undermining vansh. I don't see any glorification of kabir actually..

But vansh no longer being proactive is the problem..The sunny track was beautifully executed and for the first and maybe the last time we saw the mastermind vansh..The problem after that is that vansh became reactive to all the situation..

I agree...some of the people accusing riddhima of asking help from kabir, giving that as a reason for low trp was all stupid in my opinion.. the re marriage itself was a facade and it was something both vansh and riddhima knew

I loved the fact that both of them were not emotionally into this rasams and rituals and all.. both knew the other had ulterior motives. While one brought the subject of re marriage to distract her, she in turn used to rituals to get her job down..Takkar ki jodis is we call them and its not for nothing

I personally feel that kabir taking charge is not the problem..in the DSR track also he took charge..but what we want to see vansh having a upper hand. Thats all..he should be aware of the situation now rather than trying to salvage it at the end.

I am absolutely loving the current track even the pregnancy one and i love the mature vulnerable vansh that was showed in today's episode..

Just hoping that we see a mastermind vansh in front of kabir and there are no new loopholes in the show. People chose IMMj because of his unique concept..the makers need to know if we wanted drama we would have chosen a ekta mata show.

I have already said in my post..The problem with the makers is that they wanted to have a the trp aunties to watch the show so they kept showing Torture riddhima scenes..but all it did was drive away the people who was already watching the show.

In short, disregarding what they had in their hand, they aimed for the skies..at the end they could never reach it and in the process they lost what they had in their hand as well.

Basically keeping kabir in VR mansion before vansh's eyes but showing vansh is clueless about kabir's whereabouts what he doing before his eyes etc are called to glorify kabir & to glorify kabir cvs deliberately showing vansh is weak character & damaged character.

Edited by ILTHBEB - 5 years ago

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