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Posted: 4 years ago
#71

Originally posted by: AliChase

I don't understand the whole setting of revenge this season.

Bani genuinely has no reason to take revenge. And insaaf ki just bullshit. Like it was understandable that she gives insaaf if the whole thing had happened to naag-naagins and stuff. But trafficking humans isn't her department to be honest. That supernatural justice makes sense when they had done stuff to naag-naagins. Humans ka justice lene ke liye Bani's work doesn't make sense at all. At least Kaliyug mein she had no reasons to take revenge.

Stupid forced tracks daal diye hai writers ne so I have long ago stopped relating to the revenge. I was still enjoying Bani and Chandrakala fight in those two episodes because I was like okay, their fight is logical. Bani vs Chandrakala is understandable.

But these forced revenge tracks against the cheels are just forced.

The season was hit for only Vani and now they have ruined that as well. They ruined Bani right from the start when Nageshwari's character had so much potential. Now, they ruined Veer as well. So, I'm not sad about saying goodbye to this season.

Thankyou, Mukta, you ruined well given characters.

Proves to me that ITV is just completely incapable of writing grey characters. TRP aunties don't understand grey characters. They're a lot like this farishta too. Either it has to be white or black. This grey character doesn't go into their heads. It is us people on this forum who get the whole concept of grey characters and like them.

The whole point of rebirth of 3 of them was ki they have to complete their incomplete story...bani left her love story incomplete in satyug. Hriday ki death ka revwnge toh usne aakesh ko maar kr le hi liya tha na.. done and dusted!! Ab aur kya krna hai..death se bafi kya punishment doge ???

And isn't that what bholenath said...

And when in comes to illegal and bad stuff that singhania's were doing...better track would have been trying to stop them and changing their thinking..whatever!! Issi bahane hume thodi family bonding milti..jo tbh mujhe chaiye thi..writers really missed out on a very unique family concept...i mean a naagin is bahu of cheel family. Issi ek line main itna drama bhara hai.

Duniya main naa jaane kitne bure kaam hote hai..bura kaam harr koi krta hai...agr in sab ko theek krne ka, insaaf dilane ka theka aadi naagin ka thode hain...kalyug hain..bure kaam harr koi krega hi..kitno ko insaaf dilati firegi bechari bani!! Aadi naagin hai ya justice ka taraazoo??😂

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Posted: 4 years ago
#72

Originally posted by: RaniZelda

You mean FIREEEEEE-YURI 🤣

Co-writers of the How to Roast Bani Sharma book😆

You mean Bani Veeranshu Singhania right 😉😆 But honestly imagine Mayuri and MR F together second best jodi I am telling you 🤣

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Posted: 4 years ago
#73

Originally posted by: nikki.171


Lets hope tonight the Bani we know makes a comeback. And so does Veer. I know I am being too hopeful but I can't take Veer's memory loss state being taken to yet another week.


SharBhi's chemistry has saved the show's ass more times than they can imagine.

I can't take another week of Veer's memory loss, for real tho. All I want from today's ep is for him to be back to himself. Pleaaaaaaseeee 🤔.

@bold - truer words! The only reason any of us are still here is for them.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: Dmad

The whole point of rebirth of 3 of them was ki they have to complete their incomplete story...bani left her love story incomplete in satyug. Hriday ki death ka revwnge toh usne aakesh ko maar kr le hi liya tha na.. done and dusted!! Ab aur kya krna hai..death se bafi kya punishment doge ???

And isn't that what bholenath said...

And when in comes to illegal and bad stuff that singhania's were doing...better track would have been trying to stop them and changing their thinking..whatever!! Issi bahane hume thodi family bonding milti..jo tbh mujhe chaiye thi..writers really missed out on a very unique family concept...i mean a naagin is bahu of cheel family. Issi ek line main itna drama bhara hai.

Duniya main naa jaane kitne bure kaam hote hai..bura kaam harr koi krta hai...agr in sab ko theek krne ka, insaaf dilane ka theka aadi naagin ka thode hain...kalyug hain..bure kaam harr koi krega hi..kitno ko insaaf dilati firegi bechari bani!! Aadi naagin hai ya justice ka taraazoo??😂

I feel like this is why the concept of revenge is so pheeka this season, and why it got so confused. The story started off with the idea that Naageshwari took a rebirth in order to live out her incomplete love story (which she believed was with Hriday/Jai). There was no revenge to speak of, except maybe when Bani thought Veer killed Jai again. But after that point was cleared, kya revenge, kaahe ka revenge? So they buried that concept for a bit, but then audiences were like "yo where's the revenge?", so the writers fudged up some BS about the illegal dhande/whatever else, but as everyone is saying, why is that Bani's battle to fight? She's not the Supreme Police of the Universe. The fact that her revenge is not personal (because her so-called personal revenge against Veer was long ago a moot point) is what makes this all feel so contrived. Her revenge against Jai once she learned of his misdeeds, now that would have been something, but Jai is still just an afterthought for Bani, even now.

And yes, I will forever bemoan the loss of this unique family concept where Bani and the cheels could have had a pretty great relationship arc.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: Humes22

You mean Bani Veeranshu Singhania right 😉😆 But honestly imagine Mayuri and MR F together second best jodi I am telling you 🤣

Poor Jai loses yet another imaginary girlfriend 🤣

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: nikki.171

The episode was mostly disappointing, not quite sure what to say. My thoughts are all over the place so please excuse me if my post is too. totally with you- the only saving grace were those two Vani scenes for me because any scene with them and I am sucker (i ignore the 'storyline' at that point) and Mr F's dialogues- I do really like them 😆


Throughout most of the scenes, I kept thinking back to the BTS of that shot (Damn, they really do darken the outdoor scenes). Mr. Farishta was hilarious though, he was definitely the voice of the audience's trolling with his sarcastic jabs at Bani.


Now I know that the man, opps, farishta,.. has come to induce the revenge track ... and "bold, sassy Veeranshu". All of Mukta's recent posts are literally filled with these two comments in variations. She clearly took the advice - in the opposite way of what the fans meant. Of course this track would have worked wonders if brought in earlier. Could have shown it to be the literal presentation of Bani's inner conflict. But oh well, now it is to remind her of her original purpose. The issue is the way its being reasoned. There were plausible, justified reasons: Killing cheels because they are Naagvansh's enemy clan (this resolve eventually weakened because of Veer) , the youngsters involvement in Noor's murder whereas for the elders, it could have been their Satyug connection, revenge of killing the countless naagins (remember Naina!?) while trying to find her plus orchestrating the plane crash that killed her parents. On the contrary, the reasons THEY are showing is to kill them because of Satyug and their illegal businesses. Yes, Balwant and Shukla were there is Satyug. But Pawan, Tapish, Daksh, Monil, Ponky were never shown to be present in the Satyug, so how does that even make sense? With that logic, they are still 'innocents'. I can still take the issue with the illegal business factor although, there was no 'personal' grievance (for lack of better words) therefore, I do not see how it would be Bani's revenge to take. It would be more of the question of Insaaf here. The Farishta did have a very good point though. Veeranshu lives in the same house, hangs out with them, works with them for years and still does not know about their human trafficking business? He did mention having doubts but still, he never found out for sure? I think Mukta maata missed the part - the most important part of what we wanted in relation to the Sassy Veer- the sassy Veer and his sanki love for his Bani. They literally pick and mix at this point on what they are giving the audience. I think the 'revenge' track they have left so late- anything they give us now will be half baked- I mean Jai the dude that tried to kill her husband is just roaming around? I mean if you are looking at revenge someone point Bani in that direction 🤔 This revenge track is just nonsensical at this point and has been put in place for the audience that wanted this- which is fine I guess.


Ballu and Bani's scene was odd. Like heck, I dig for such stuff but I kept expecting Ballu to smirk after she left or find out something amiss. Looks like they are planning to make Ballu good... for good. Not sure what this would mean for the story in the bigger plot since Ballu was one of links. See I didn't buy this scene not even one rupee. Like the scene was good but Ballu has an agenda here- its clear that this is all an agenda. But don't what for. I kept thinking is that Jai in Ballus shape or someone else. I think there is more to this scene!


Pawan chachu's death was coming. Surbhi definitely did good there but Bani didn't seem as interested in the killing. Rather she was more concerned with Veer. Also, the vfx was awful! The scales on her skin and them eyes were so uh, badly done. The Farishta being "Kyar Karoon? Taali bajaon?" was 🤣. I am interested in knowing how Veer and Co would react to this. The biggest flaw though was this. Bani could have easily killed ALL the cheels one by one ever since she came in the house. Aur kissa khatam. There was one thing stopping her - the condition that Bholenaath set for her. The cheels had to attack her first. That was a clever obstacle at first to keep the story going. It was why she could not kill Veer before too and kept instigating him to attack her. Now I didn't see Pawan attacking her in any physical way. So this was a major blooper in writing and logic. SC nailed her scenes here as well- I agree and Mr F is a scene stealer with those lines 🤣 I think like Sohni said in one of her posts it seems to now have changed from badla to insaaf? LOL writers convenience basically - makes no sense. Unless shoddy editing meant that we didn't see chachu attacking her? Which I doubt.


Coming to Veeranshu's memory loss. The entire thing looks so forced and contrived. At least during the moon-gate hypnosis, his actions and outbursts were blows out of proportion and somehow made sense. Yesterday he questions about Mehek, Dehek and their Mom, asks when TaRa happened. He realizes he does not know or remember these events meaning he has gaps in his memories. Is he not wondering about it? If he can take those above things at face value, why can he not take his trusted Tapish Bhai's words about Bani being his wife? Last week, I thought the Farishta's magic was not just to make Veer forget Bani, but also make him being unable to stand her. Hence, the irritation, the headaches and physical pain when she came close. This week kinda flipped it, making it look like partial amnesia instead. Personally not a fan of this track but had moon-gate not happened I think that this track would have been a good one to go with. This magic I think has wiped Bani's existence and anything associated with her from Veers memory and her presence causes him pain which leads to irritation. That part of him doesn't allow him to understand what Tapish Bhai is saying? I think- anyway. I just think there are loopholes in this track like with the whole story.


Yes, VaNi's love is pushing through! I liked the more subdued and controlled way he told Bani that he doesn't like shouting and explaining to her to keep away. I also really liked the car and dance scenes where it is FINALLY shown that he did feel the connection and pull. I wish they had at least shown one tiny scene of him thinking the same thing last week. About why he feels something when he 'first' saw her. Just one line even. Because despite this week and the relief on seeing the connection making way, I feel like that the pyaar ki deewaangi now has a dent that cannot be mended and I hate feeling this way. *sigh* I am all for angst but its the way this track was done. All that said, I still enjoyed the car scene and the dance where Veer kept seeing Bani in all the girls (I was yay-ing in my head). Scenes like that keep me going. I am glad they didn't mess with the connection too much. In moon gate I wanted this connection to break the hypnosis and it didn't. But I am glad it seems to be dong it here- I do think this bholenaath coming through for Vani and us fans 👍🏼 I loved these scenes- reminded me of the start when Veer didn't understand what this connection was he felt with Bani. This sort of reminded me of the old Veer that was obsessed with Bani. then the writers obvs had to go kill it.


Jay ke liye toh kya hi bolun. Just last week, we were discussing about how he now seems like a strong villain. Sure, he may have more up his sleeve now too but what they showed until now was so stupid. At this point though, I am glad his plans aren't working. Still hoping they don't go down the route and Veer himself pushes the girl away instead of Bani having to do anything. I find such tactics in ITV for either character, very distasteful. I still believe that there is more to Jai's plan than is being shown. HE wants Veer to die and he won't share that with Donky- so there is something else cooking. Obvs he won't win like I have always said Mukta has been consistent in writing his plans failing. I would love it if they showed V pushing this girl away because of the connection. I hope they do- don't think SC was there in the hotel room scene. So there is hope.


Really hope tonight's episode has Veer back in himself. I am hoping the same sister but not going to hold my breath!


EDIT - I also felt like Bani was herself only in the last few moments of the episode when pushing that Monica away. Where is my fiery Bani? LOVED that scene when put her haq on her veeranshu and asked the girl if she wanted a slap 🤣

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: RaniZelda

Poor Jai loses yet another imaginary girlfriend 🤣

That is why Veer calls him a loo-ser 🤣

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Posted: 4 years ago
#78

Originally posted by: Dmad

The whole point of rebirth of 3 of them was ki they have to complete their incomplete story...bani left her love story incomplete in satyug. Hriday ki death ka revwnge toh usne aakesh ko maar kr le hi liya tha na.. done and dusted!! Ab aur kya krna hai..death se bafi kya punishment doge ???

And isn't that what bholenath said...

And when in comes to illegal and bad stuff that singhania's were doing...better track would have been trying to stop them and changing their thinking..whatever!! Issi bahane hume thodi family bonding milti..jo tbh mujhe chaiye thi..writers really missed out on a very unique family concept...i mean a naagin is bahu of cheel family. Issi ek line main itna drama bhara hai.

Duniya main naa jaane kitne bure kaam hote hai..bura kaam harr koi krta hai...agr in sab ko theek krne ka, insaaf dilane ka theka aadi naagin ka thode hain...kalyug hain..bure kaam harr koi krega hi..kitno ko insaaf dilati firegi bechari bani!! Aadi naagin hai ya justice ka taraazoo??😂


It's too late for any repair at this point. They can't fix anything in a few episodes left.

I agree with your points. The whole thing rebirth was for love.

Matlab agar Jay revenge le raha hota toh it would still make 1% chance.

They've put revenge only because Naagin franchise is about revenge and stuff. And this is so bloody forced this season.

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Posted: 4 years ago
#79

Originally posted by: nikki.171

The episode was mostly disappointing, not quite sure what to say. My thoughts are all over the place so please excuse me if my post is too.


Throughout most of the scenes, I kept thinking back to the BTS of that shot (Damn, they really do darken the outdoor scenes). Mr. Farishta was hilarious though, he was definitely the voice of the audience's trolling with his sarcastic jabs at Bani.


Now I know that the man, opps, farishta,.. has come to induce the revenge track ... and "bold, sassy Veeranshu". All of Mukta's recent posts are literally filled with these two comments in variations. She clearly took the advice - in the opposite way of what the fans meant. Of course this track would have worked wonders if brought in earlier. Could have shown it to be the literal presentation of Bani's inner conflict. But oh well, now it is to remind her of her original purpose. The issue is the way its being reasoned. There were plausible, justified reasons: Killing cheels because they are Naagvansh's enemy clan (this resolve eventually weakened because of Veer) , the youngsters involvement in Noor's murder whereas for the elders, it could have been their Satyug connection, revenge of killing the countless naagins (remember Naina!?) while trying to find her plus orchestrating the plane crash that killed her parents. On the contrary, the reasons THEY are showing is to kill them because of Satyug and their illegal businesses. Yes, Balwant and Shukla were there is Satyug. But Pawan, Tapish, Daksh, Monil, Ponky were never shown to be present in the Satyug, so how does that even make sense? With that logic, they are still 'innocents'. I can still take the issue with the illegal business factor although, there was no 'personal' grievance (for lack of better words) therefore, I do not see how it would be Bani's revenge to take. It would be more of the question of Insaaf here. The Farishta did have a very good point though. Veeranshu lives in the same house, hangs out with them, works with them for years and still does not know about their human trafficking business? He did mention having doubts but still, he never found out for sure?


Ballu and Bani's scene was odd. Like heck, I dig for such stuff but I kept expecting Ballu to smirk after she left or find out something amiss. Looks like they are planning to make Ballu good... for good. Not sure what this would mean for the story in the bigger plot since Ballu was one of links.


Pawan chachu's death was coming. Surbhi definitely did good there but Bani didn't seem as interested in the killing. Rather she was more concerned with Veer. Also, the vfx was awful! The scales on her skin and them eyes were so uh, badly done. The Farishta being "Kyar Karoon? Taali bajaon?" was 🤣. I am interested in knowing how Veer and Co would react to this. The biggest flaw though was this. Bani could have easily killed ALL the cheels one by one ever since she came in the house. Aur kissa khatam. There was one thing stopping her - the condition that Bholenaath set for her. The cheels had to attack her first. That was a clever obstacle at first to keep the story going. It was why she could not kill Veer before too and kept instigating him to attack her. Now I didn't see Pawan attacking her in any physical way. So this was a major blooper in writing and logic.


Coming to Veeranshu's memory loss. The entire thing looks so forced and contrived. At least during the moon-gate hypnosis, his actions and outbursts were blows out of proportion and somehow made sense. Yesterday he questions about Mehek, Dehek and their Mom, asks when TaRa happened. He realizes he does not know or remember these events meaning he has gaps in his memories. Is he not wondering about it? If he can take those above things at face value, why can he not take his trusted Tapish Bhai's words about Bani being his wife? Last week, I thought the Farishta's magic was not just to make Veer forget Bani, but also make him being unable to stand her. Hence, the irritation, the headaches and physical pain when she came close. This week kinda flipped it, making it look like partial amnesia instead.


Yes, VaNi's love is pushing through! I liked the more subdued and controlled way he told Bani that he doesn't like shouting and explaining to her to keep away. I also really liked the car and dance scenes where it is FINALLY shown that he did feel the connection and pull. I wish they had at least shown one tiny scene of him thinking the same thing last week. About why he feels something when he 'first' saw her. Just one line even. Because despite this week and the relief on seeing the connection making way, I feel like that the pyaar ki deewaangi now has a dent that cannot be mended and I hate feeling this way. *sigh* I am all for angst but its the way this track was done. All that said, I still enjoyed the car scene and the dance where Veer kept seeing Bani in all the girls (I was yay-ing in my head). Scenes like that keep me going.


Jay ke liye toh kya hi bolun. Just last week, we were discussing about how he now seems like a strong villain. Sure, he may have more up his sleeve now too but what they showed until now was so stupid. At this point though, I am glad his plans aren't working. Still hoping they don't go down the route and Veer himself pushes the girl away instead of Bani having to do anything. I find such tactics in ITV for either character, very distasteful.


Really hope tonight's episode has Veer back in himself.


EDIT - I also felt like Bani was herself only in the last few moments of the episode when pushing that Monica away. Where is my fiery Bani?

The whole issue with the revenge track is that for it to really feel like revenge you have to have that anger, pain that intense hatred for other person...ye aise lg rha hai jaise all this farishta wants is cheels dead and he is making bani a scapegoat. Hell, the whole pawan chachu scene was set up like that also.. farishta ne maar peet ke rakha tha and bani aai aur das liya.. chapter closed. It would have been better had they shown pawan chachu doing something bad..idk man forcing a girl whatever and bani sees this gets angry and kills him!! But expections toh samundarr mai dubki lga rhi hai!!🙂

Veer veer hain hi kaha?? Koi dusra hi hai ye?? Veeranshu singhania itna stupid ho hi nhi skta and come on...man bhi liya veer sab kuch bhul bhi gya but veer ko ponky aur daksh ne kaha ki bani uski stalker hai aur usne maan liya...and agr stalker hai yoh ghr mai naukrani bhi bna ke kyu rakha hai😂

Jai can never be a strong villian man... because strong villians know when to take action...veer ki language mai kahu toh dhaabevale ko bas rotiyan sekna aata hai.

I hope aaj ke episode mai mujhe vo phle vali moofat bani sharma dikhe jisse veer ko pyar hua tha..ladai nhi krni farishte se naa kre..but uska raam naam satya hone se phle aacha khaasa suna hi de usse jaise hmare veer ko sunati thi!!!

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: Dmad

The whole issue with the revenge track is that for it to really feel like revenge you have to have that anger, pain that intense hatred for other person...ye aise lg rha hai jaise all this farishta wants is cheels dead and he is making bani a scapegoat. Hell, the whole pawan chachu scene was set up like that also.. farishta ne maar peet ke rakha tha and bani aai aur das liya.. chapter closed. It would have been better had they shown pawan chachu doing something bad..idk man forcing a girl whatever and bani sees this gets angry and kills him!! But expections toh samundarr mai dubki lga rhi hai!!🙂

Veer veer hain hi kaha?? Koi dusra hi hai ye?? Veeranshu singhania itna stupid ho hi nhi skta and come on...man bhi liya veer sab kuch bhul bhi gya but veer ko ponky aur daksh ne kaha ki bani uski stalker hai aur usne maan liya...and agr stalker hai yoh ghr mai naukrani bhi bna ke kyu rakha hai😂

Jai can never be a strong villian man... because strong villians know when to take action...veer ki language mai kahu toh dhaabevale ko bas rotiyan sekna aata hai.

I hope aaj ke episode mai mujhe vo phle vali moofat bani sharma dikhe jisse veer ko pyar hua tha..ladai nhi krni farishte se naa kre..but uska raam naam satya hone se phle aacha khaasa suna hi de usse jaise hmare veer ko sunati thi!!!


Exactly, I agree with your points! Its no longer a revenge and Bani has taken on no responsibility of being the thekedaar of Insaaf in the Kalyug. That is not AdiNaagin's job. When it comes to the supernatural bit or the story line toh I anyway have no expectations. I was here for the love story and so were many I believe. A good story and plotline is a big bonus. They should have just kept the Kalyug as the incomplete love story that fate will change and rewrite. If they showed us a story they wanted to, would have enjoyed it so much more.


Neither has Veeranshu remained the sharp and intelligent character he was nor is Bani being the fierce, fiesty lady she was. Its like they are taking away all the good bits. Also kaunsi angle se Bani naukraani lag rahi hai? Did he not notice the mangalsutra and the sindoor too. So many loopholes man.

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