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Posted: 5 years ago
#21

Originally posted by: LadyWhistledown

Though today's episode was just amazing, there was one scene, or rather, one dialogue that took the cake for me. It was the dialogue that Sai utters in the end to Pakhi... "Apni izzat apni haath mein hoti hai, oonchi awaz karke kbhi bhi kuch aisa nahi bolna chahiye, jisse dusron ke saamne khud ke hi nazrein jhuk jaaye." This was such a subtle, yet powerful dialogue that spoke volumes about the situation that the characters are in. Hats off to the scriptwriter for giving us this powerful dialogue.

Though this entire scene was brilliantly executed, be it by the actors or the writing, this one dialogue just stood out for me. And it gave me a new insight into Sai's character.

In the war of words between Pakhi and Sai, Pakhi always seems to have the upper hand in terms of support, because Virat blindly supports Pakhi in the name of being her best friend, and rest of the family members, well, I don't have comment on this.

But, one thing that Pakhi doesn't seem to realise is that one fine day, Pakhi's words and her behaviour will reflect badly on her. Whatever venomous words Pakhi spews on Sai does not cause any damage to Sai, but it does cause a lot of damage to Pakhi herself, maybe not immediately, but slowly and steadily it is. And Sai knows this.

From this dialogue, I also got a feeling that though Sai is irritated to no ends with Pakhi, she's also trying to sympathise with her. The very fact that Sai said to Pakhi shows that Sai wants Pakhi to keep her self-respect and dignity intact, and not let it go for some misplaced sense of victory. This dialogue was not meant to be an insult, it was more of a caution, from one woman to another. Though Pakhi may not realise this now, she will, soon enough.


What do you guys think about this? Do I resonate with you guys or am I just reading too much into itšŸ˜†?


Let me know what you guys feel.


Love,

NiyašŸ¤—

@bold : Exactly! She’s so blind by the 2 days yoga love that she has let her Self respect go for a toss and phir Bolti hai *Tum mujhse aise baat nahi kar sakti*

Yes! Sai is trying to make PP understand how wrong she appears to be and once this truth is out in the open and Samrat is back in the house, I doubt Mansi bua & MMK will support her 🤢


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Posted: 5 years ago
#22

Pakhi is one who is happy with consolation prize as well. The girl of 26, was shown happy waiting for her prince charming. And she believed in that filmy romance of love at first sight.

Then boom, reality struck her hard. dreams crashing. She is confused between her dreams and reality. And forced to accept reality with a promise with the man she was infatuated with.

Real husband leaves, so what hero is still there. What if husband dies at border. At least she has a chance to get consolation prize and in this long race he might agree to marry her, as he said no one will enter will his life again.


But hold on, who thought there will be a third person who will act as obstruction of getting close to man she still loves. If everything is fair in love and war. So be it! That's what Pakhi in short for you

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: by_stander

I honestly can read your posts all day. Such great insight to every dialogue and in-depth analysis of all characters. It gives new perspectives to the entire show.



Oh thank you šŸ¤— you're sending me up to cloud nine. But in all honesty, I love all the Badbad that we all do here. It's lovely to read the insights everyone shares. Since I am only watching this show and after years, it's just looking interesting right now. But back in my head i know ye bhi 'temporary' hai. You never know when they twist it in ways you don't want

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: jankiraghav


Oh thank you šŸ¤— you're sending me up to cloud nine. But in all honesty, I love all the Badbad that we all do here. It's lovely to read the insights everyone shares. Since I am only watching this show and after years, it's just looking interesting right now. But back in my head i know ye bhi 'temporary' hai. You never know when they twist it in ways you don't want


Yeah, i get what you mean... I usually get bored with a show after watching it for a couple of months. Usually, my timeline to stay consistent with a show is 1-2 months. But I am liking this one just for Sai. Hopefully, they will keep it interesting for the audience.

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Posted: 5 years ago
#25

Originally posted by: ..Peppermint..


You know what, even while she was "warning" Pakhi, she never put a label on her. She never said Pakhi is this, that. Yes, she told her off for invading her privacy but she never called her names. There is no attempt whatsoever to character assassinate(even if she had reasons to).

This was wonderful on her part and she definitely stands in contrast to Pakhi who baselessly accused her of being badtameez, amongst many other label she's placed on her.

This is what a strong woman is. Strong woman do not bring others down to reach the top.


@bold - I totally agree! Sai does not need to call people names and degrade them to prove her point. Sai is fully aware that she gets into an argument or quarrel with people only when they have done something wrong, and she always has her facts right.


Whereas, Pakhi's soul motive was to degrade Sai to look good in front of Virat and his family, and she actually had nothing else against Sai.

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Posted: 5 years ago
#26

Originally posted by: jankiraghav

Lovely post, Niyaaaaaaaa! ā¤ļøā¤ļøā¤ļøšŸ¤— I am so loving this war between the two women. It's Sai's way of saying that she doesn't want to accept her invitation to this war but somehow she's already pulled into it.

I actually can't justify PP's anger and rage because I personally believe that we choose our happiness or sorrow by our own reactions to the situations. So, as part of my value system, I cannot understand why she is putting herself through this pitiful situation when she has all the backing, confidence and intelligence to make the right choice. While we want to blame Virat for it -- yes his inability to speak up the truth is a big hassle but I will not blame him for PP's misplaced notion. I agree with someone who said that he's been trying to push her away, he is NOT making the first move towards her for any new gestures etc that should make her feel that he wants to continue a relationship with her. If I were in her place, I would convince myself that this man has moved on and never loved me because he couldn't fight for me in the first place. Period. What is my jagah in his life doesn't even matter.

But PP holds on to her own illusion of what she wants from Virat, trying to find it in his words or actions, even when he has not actually done it the way she sees it. For example, regretting the marriage - I never felt from any of those dialogues that he regretted the marriage. He was just angry and ranting and Sai -- the person he feels a connection with -- was at the receiving end. Not PP. But PP saw it from her own lens which continues to be tinted with the colour of the vaada.

I so LOVED how Sai was restless recalling Virat saying he's choked to the throat and won't be able to push down the food. He already explained his action of pushing away the plate and she got the point. She wasn't hysterical about it but was trying to cool it off by finding a solution, which is her typical trait.

Yes, we can blame Virat for the vaada but well PP knows it's already broken. So what's the point of holding on to it? I don't think she's in such dire straits that she won't survive without the vaada. She should have the courage to walk up to Virat and tell him : vaada nibhana ya Nahi nibhaana tumhare haath me Hain. Like Sai.

But no, she won't do it because that is her drug. She wants to live in this fantasy that she holds so much importance in his life that he's promised to set himself on fire and let her watch the show.

Sai did feel bad for her during the Gadchiroli scenes right after their wedding and even later when she would sense her discomfort while Virat was blindly trying to push her as a 'guide'. But now, as she has seen PP's true colours within three days, I don't think it's as much sympathy as the need to show her the mirror.

Her "mujh se Judi cheez ke baare me bolengi" had weight. She even looked at Virat when she said it. Sai knows that Virat's My best friend essay and PP's 'dosti' for Virat are not the same thing. I thought more than even showing her the mirror, it was Sai's way of knocking at Virat's head indirectly. Because she knows that people like Karishma are speaking about their relationship behind their backs in the house. To Sai, Virat may not be her 'husband' yet, but she will still guard his reputation. And she knows that the gossip mill is working overtime in Chavan niwas, which Virat is almost oblivious to. So she also warned him about someone seeing PP in their room at night.

But yes, PP has invited Sai into a play area that she really doesn't need to step into. Sai already owns the field.

That's just my opinion.


Jankiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii!!! (Nahi... ab yeh i kuch zyada hogaya, now it's time to change. Next post se, I'll be calling you "Januuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu"šŸ˜†)

Your analysis is just amazing as usual. Kaise kar lete ho yaar? Kahi tum ek psychologist toh nahi ho??

Even I do believe that people are responsible for their situations, at least in Pakhi's case it is true. I agree to the fact that she's holding to the vaada as if her life depends on it, even when she knows that it has lost its value.

It is true that Virat hasn't done anything to further her illusions, but he hasn't done anything to stop them either. He didn't keep her at arm's length. Rather, he actually gave her the monopoly over his relationship with Sai. In the name of making her feel not left out and important, he is making her delusional even further.

What I mean to say is that, though Pakhi is responsible for whatever situation she is in, we cannot completely absolve Virat off it. I'm not even talking about the vaada here. The vaada was given in a moment of weakness, agreed. But he, for one moment, doesn't seem to reflect on the damage this has done. I personally feel that we let Virat off the wagon very easily.

Also, he doesn't for one moment seem to consider the fact that Samrat might have left because of this reason, though Pakhi had told him that Samrat left and he must know about them.

I do think that Pakhi is stupid enough to still hold on to that vaada, but she has no reason to let go of it, until yesterday's episode, when Virat actually seems to be taking a stance. Maybe, in the upcoming episodes, we can see her coming to terms with the fact that the vaada boy is gone for good.

And coming to Sai, apart from feeling a slight sense of possessiveness for Virat, she does know the kind of people that exist in the Chavan Nivas. Even on Pakhi's side, except for Bhavani, Mansi and to some extent Ninad, there is no one else. Omi, Sonali and Karishma are like hyenas waiting for their prey. Woh log kisika nahi ho sakte hai. And Sai seems to realise this better than Pakhi. Sai doesn't want to be involved in any more drama than she can help.

Also, Sai does understand that what Virat feels for Pakhi is not the same as what Pakhi feels for Virat. So if she cannot make Pakhi understand, she needs to knock some sense into Virat first.

Let us see how these dynamics play out.

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Posted: 5 years ago
#27

Originally posted by: sona121

I totally in love with sai and virat jodi...but root problems is due to virat vada yo pakhi..we can't totally blame pakhi for whatever happening.. first virat should make a clear mind about what he want in life.

Why he made a vada to pakhi?? What exactly he meant by that vada?? In my point of view virat is the cause of all problems.

Samart become scapegoat..I feel so sorry to him..pakhi and virat done wrong to him..sai on the other hand known that virat have a commitment..


Yes, I do agree that Virat's vaada is the root cause. Though Pakhi is stupid enough to hold on to it, knowing that it means nothing, it was Virat who put her in such a delusional situation.

The actual victim of this vaada game is definitely Samrat. I just hope that he comes back soon and things fall into place.

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Posted: 5 years ago
#28

Originally posted by: by_stander

I honestly can read your posts all day. Such great insight to every dialogue and in-depth analysis of all characters. It gives new perspectives to the entire show.



I know right!! Her analysis is just brilliant. Even I wait to read all her posts and her take on every situation!

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Posted: 5 years ago
#29

Originally posted by: XxSicMNDVSxX

@bold : Exactly! She’s so blind by the 2 days yoga love that she has let her Self respect go for a toss and phir Bolti hai *Tum mujhse aise baat nahi kar sakti*

Yes! Sai is trying to make PP understand how wrong she appears to be and once this truth is out in the open and Samrat is back in the house, I doubt Mansi bua & MMK will support her 🤢



Exactly! Pakhi needs a reality check and she'll probably get it only when Samrat comes back. I would love to see the look on MMK's face when they find out about the yoga waala pyaar🤣

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Posted: 5 years ago
#30

Originally posted by: njain16385

Pakhi is one who is happy with consolation prize as well. The girl of 26, was shown happy waiting for her prince charming. And she believed in that filmy romance of love at first sight.

Then boom, reality struck her hard. dreams crashing. She is confused between her dreams and reality. And forced to accept reality with a promise with the man she was infatuated with.

Real husband leaves, so what hero is still there. What if husband dies at border. At least she has a chance to get consolation prize and in this long race he might agree to marry her, as he said no one will enter will his life again.


But hold on, who thought there will be a third person who will act as obstruction of getting close to man she still loves. If everything is fair in love and war. So be it! That's what Pakhi in short for you


Oh my god! This just sums up everything about PakhišŸ‘

She never really viewed Samrat as a threat who'll come between her and Virat. And he also conveniently left. But Sai is the real threat, not because Sai will actually come between her and Virat, but because Virat himself might choose to slip away from Pakhi because of Sai.

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