Do they actually "love" Pakhi?

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Posted: 4 years ago
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So I have been thinking about this since the past few days and want to start this discussion to gather everyone's perspective. I thought maybe it would be clearer a bit later but I think we can already. So here it goes (will try to keep it short šŸ˜›)

Much as we love the show, it reinforces an archaic (to me, it is even regressive) concept of men falling for women's 'visible beauty' i.e. facial features, body etc, and calling it "love". And I would like to question both the "shravan kumars" of the Chavan niwas who are so willing to sacrifice their "infatuation" for each other. Aren't both of them guilty for the 'objectification' of women that we want to break free from?

For once, I am trying to feel for Pakhi (bas iske aage PP). Does she even know what Virat loves about her? Or for that matter why did Samrat marry her? The second question doesn't matter to her because she herself has married for the wrong reason.

Samrat:

"Taj Mahal" is what Samrat called her when Karishma was trying to show Virat a picture of his to-be Bhabhi. In many scenes, Samrat behaved like a desperate dulha, smitten by his to-be wife's beauty, who met him just two days ago. How do you expect a woman to reciprocate your feelings (attraction) in that short a notice? While I am sure that Samrat would have also been understanding and gentle in the beginning of their relationship which he did not get a chance to do, the 'i-am-in-love' with the 'prettiest girl ever' was hard to digest. Is that the only factor one sees in an arranged marriage? (I didn't have one so I really don't know šŸ˜•)

Virat:

Now, the initial story of their meeting and liking for one another is normal. Absolutely right that two young people met, got attracted to each other and wanted to know more about each other because they thought they could have a promising relationship together. But is 'attraction' all that you need to say "I Love You". I feel it was one of the main reasons why it was so easy for PP to believe that he flirted with her when he did not recognise her voice and she did not even want to give him another chance. She blocked the number while he kept trying to find her. The foundation of what they called "love" was not understanding or a connection but an attraction of two bodies and some casual talk about their likes and preferences (almost the same way as we discuss on the forum about issues šŸ˜‚, par ham sabka pyaar inse jyada saccha wala hai), which was easy to break. Because if it were really a connection (like Virat has with Sai), then the world is on one side and your love is on another. Period.

I would also like to mention the relationship of Virat and Sai - they had ample opportunities to show accidental falls, eye contact etc during the Gadchiroli track but there was "no touching" whatsoever, unlike other versions. The first time that Virat actually touched Sai was to shake her up when Aaba died (correct me if I am wrong). Sai, with her own trauma of sexual harassment, has no interest in the hero-type looks of Virat while she has not been shown as a beauty queen either. Even in the photo session episode, there was this beautiful awkwardness about putting the arm around her shoulder. That holding hand was heart-melting, but we did not see either of them giving each other the puppy looks, eye lock, lip quiver. Nothing. In fact, they were arguing. Yet, it was beautiful to the extent that everyone around could see romance in it. That is how you actually fall in love and get used to that unique touch and scent, which belongs only to the one who you love and it is also the touch and scent that only you will recognise in the whole world.

So, both the men sacrificed the "prettiest girl" in the world for each other - one by refusing to fight for her and the other (her husband) by choosing to leave her to her fate with the one who rejected her. He was crushed at the thought of his brother cheating him, but did he want to know more about the woman, whom he married for her face, and who was visibly so traumatised. Both men made their choice.

The question is: Did any one of them actually love PP?

Edited by jankiraghav - 4 years ago

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Well Pakhi and Virat dono ke case me love hai hi nahi bas attraction hai ya tha ya jo bhi ho.. I'm sure unko ek dusre ki favorite chize bhi nahi pata hongi but for them that's mature love ā¤ unn dono ne ek dusre ki ek perfect image bana li hai jisse unko pyar hua (unke according) lekin ab jab ek dusre ka alag roop dekhenge toh they will realize (hopefully) ki kya socha tha aur kya nikla


Aur Samrat, well I think agar Pakhi ki jagah koi aur ladki hoti toh bhi wo utna hi khush hota coz wo apni shadi ko leke khush tha, na usko pehle kisi se pyar tha na hi shadi ke time pr but ha wo shadi ke baad jaroor pyar me padta, but usse pehle hi bomb phut gya, and rahi baat uske jane ki well apni wife ko apne bhai ke sath lovey dovey looks dene se acha usko desh ki sewa karna laga, and I won't be surprised agar wapas ane ke baad wo usko divorce de toh kyuki usko pata hai ki Pakhi ko usse koi mtlb hi nahi hai(which is very obvious to everyone except Chavans)

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Posted: 4 years ago
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I can't find any actual love between Virat & Pakhi or even Samrat & Pakhi. Virakhi happened due to some stupid reasons. Samrakhi happened in an arranged setting.

I don't think even Pakhi knows what she loved Virat for just like him. In the case of Samrat he had fallen for her looks and it cost him dearly. Pakhi couldn't even question Samrat why he's marrying her because she herself was hiding her previous relationship from him.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Absolutely loved your Post! šŸ‘

I’m in two minds about PP.

A part of me feels bad for her and other one doesn’t like her.
I do sympathise her character but I’m not really fond of FL who acts all bechari and cannot take a stand for herself.

She met someone at a camp, they hit it off and due to circumstances things didn’t go as she planned then she agreed to marry Samrat for the sake of Virat’s vaada?
And she isn’t ready to move on? It’s pathetic actually.


IMO if Virat and Pakhi had spent sometime together they wouldn’t have got along.

Virat wouldn’t have liked her much she is possessive, obsessive, impulsive and doesn’t even try to understand Virat. 🤢

Samrat IMO would have kept her happy.
Us bechare ko toh sirf shadi karni thi , ab ladki sundar mil gayi toh double khush.

He would have definitely kept Pakhi happy and would have treated her like a queen.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Muh ki baat cheen li. 😃

Apart from the points you make about Virat and Samrat's attraction towards Pakhi, this is the whole issue I have with the show itself. We know absolutely nothing about Pakhi except for her fondness for Virat and just a few generic "love travelling", "loves yoga" thrown around here and there. Nothing about her personality, her traits, her likes, dislikes, nothing. The focal point of her character is "I love Virat and I can't have him".

As far as VirKhi are concerned, both highly overestimate their love story. Virat fell for Pakhi's beauty and charm but Pakhi also was attracted towards Virat's looks and overall personality. They didn't even have one meaningful conversation for us to believe it was anything more than attraction. It was a very Tinder and Bumble- swipe right sort of equation.

For Samrat, to begin with I never understood the urgency for his wedding. Haan chalo, sirf 15 din ki chutti thi but is baar sagaai and agli chutti main shaadi ko sakti thi. For Bhavani and the rest, it was enough that she's a Maratha and for Samrat it was enough that she's good looking. Even they didn't have anything substantial to talk about which would explain Samrat falling head over heels for her and then his subsequent (over)reaction on overhearing VirKhi's conversation and then "sacrificing".


The writers have been absolutely fabulous for Sai and Virat's characterization but they can do a lot better for Pakhi. We need to know more about her to sort of, maybe understand why she is the way she is.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Bang on post by you, @jankiraghav! šŸ‘


I guess, yours was a love marriage, right? ā¤ļø


I got married in an arranged marriage setup 5 yrs back.. And I’m a mother of 4+ year old son. 😳

Looks was definitely not the criteria for me nor my husband coz I’m dusky while my hubby is fair. For us: main criteria was other person’s character traits and behavior.. šŸ‘šŸ¼

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Posted: 4 years ago
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I don't think any of them are in love with each other.

There is attraction and infatuation in Pakhi and Virat's case. But they knew quasi-nothing about each other and i'll give them the benefit of the doubt that it's the first time that they've felt the intense attraction so it's okay if they feel a little broken hearted when things did not go according to what they've wished for. Pakhi is as pretty as Virat is handsome, so yeah I do get the attraction.


Its the same for Samrat, he fell for Pakhi's pretty face and time and situation did not allow him to really know her and vice versa.


I nevertheless really love the baby steps in SaiRat's relationship. Like you mentioned there is no catching-holding, no Virat lost in Sai when she came down with wet hairs on the first day (the staple of ITV relationships), basically the cvs are not forcing their relationship down our throat. I guess that's why theirs feel so beautiful. The beautiful awkwardness and confusion that you normally feel in the beginning of a relationship is there and so is the friendliness and the attempt to take care of your partner.


But that's just my opinion, of coursešŸ˜†

Edited by ..Peppermint.. - 4 years ago
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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: Swetha-Sai

Bang on post by you, @jankiraghav! šŸ‘


I guess, yours was a love marriage, right? ā¤ļø

well yes, i can call it "love marriage". basically, we were childhood family friends with a common cousin and both our Aai Babas friends from their generation so it was more like they were eagerly waiting for us to come and tell them, "badhai ho, aapki dosti rishteydaari me badalne wali hai". When it happened, both of us were wondering if its us getting married or our parents šŸ˜‚ we offered to send them on a double date honeymoon too šŸ˜‚

As for us, we are in a "best friends" wali marriage but hamara best friends wala concept normal wala hai 🤣i have a 4.5 year old "forever-ready-to-call-the-cop-on-mumma' daughter. No prizes for guessing who is the cop. šŸ˜† her Baba is. Got hooked on to the show because I have a thing for the khakhi (accompanied by logic and intelligence, of course šŸ˜‰)


I got married in an arranged marriage setup 5 yrs back.. And I’m a mother of 4+ year old son. 😳

Aww so sweet. same age almost. they are a terror of their own kind.

Looks was definitely not the criteria for me nor my husband coz I’m dusky while my hubby is fair. For us: main criteria was other person’s character traits and behavior.. šŸ‘šŸ¼

Me too, while our families mostly have love marriages, even in the few arranged marriages that i have seen, we have never seen a photo and said, "mast ha mast", first question is "are they compatible?" so i found the whole excitement in a 2 days me karlo marriage shocking😲. My husband and I took 27 years to say, haan chal yaar. 27 meri age thi us waqt šŸ˜†

Edited by jankiraghav - 4 years ago
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Posted: 4 years ago
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@jankiraghav

Yours is such a sweet love story! ā¤ļø

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Posted: 4 years ago
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@janakiraghav

I love your postsšŸ‘šŸ¼

My post 'looks and personality' is actually response to ur post as I somehow was not able to reply here.

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