Coolie No. 1 - Trailer - Amazon Prime Video - Page 9

Originally posted by: MujheMaarjaneDo

Would have been a big hit in theatres.

Could still be huge TRP garner.

But issue with OTT stuff is, reviews are taken as a mode of success. So it is bound to be called flop.

I don't know how they record the success and failure of a film in OTT platforms

Originally posted by: Mages

I don't know how they record the success and failure of a film in OTT platforms

no idea.

But the thing is people take reviews=success

For example Housefull4 was the most watched movié in Hotstar, but had it not had the Box office collections and TV Trp numbers to back it, pretty sure people would have called it flop.

Similar to what happened to Laxxmi, but no doubt.

Originally posted by: Talis

Govinda's Coolie#1 was a Superhit (according to BOI) - ranking in the 30s in terms of B.O. of the 1990s, 6th in footfalls for 1995 and 87th all time with 1.48cr footfalls (right under Mission Kashmir & Don 2)

Mission Kashmir had that much footfall, still it tanked? Then how come Coolie the biggest hit? Don 2 was also an underperformer.

Originally posted by: columbia

The problem is the copyright. End of the day, the producers own the copyright so legally they are not bound to credit AM. At least ethically, they should have a statement or a thank you or something in the trailer or credits of the movie.

Not at all. Anand Milind are the first owners as creators of the song as they are the creators. Producers never own songs, the labels have sort of a lease on them. And there is a catch over there.

Afaik Songs once made for a film are signed to that particular film it can be ONLY used for that that film. If they chose to reuse it they have to make a new contract...with a publisher (music label) and the creators (music director and lyricist).

Also labels own publishing rights for X amount of years. After that they have to either renew or give up the rights.

They have to pay Anand Milind royalties also for this. Its legally wrong if they don't.

Legally it can become a court issue. I know AM won't wont do it but they can.

And the producers credited Sameer (lyricist). So this is some other panga they are doing.

@bold: thats the exact thing. Legally Anand Milind will still get royalties but a fair ethical practice is needed. The producers should give their names.

EDIT:

The only person who doesn't really own any song rights is the director. He doesn't own the film too, the producers would've made it without him...so its ironic seeing how in India you do whatever you want without consequences 😆

Originally posted by: nonam

these ssr bots are worse than the arnab and that lady on tv, all this boycott this and boycott that on rumors that Sara said this, varun did that is so annoying. use all that energy to advocate suicide prevention something helpful rather than propagating the same bullying they are protesting.

the same SSR warriors would have been happy and going mad if SSR was in this movie doing same as Varun

Originally posted by: GumGum

Mission Kashmir had that much footfall, still it tanked? Then how come Coolie the biggest hit? Don 2 was also an underperformer.

Footfalls on average for the entire industry have fallen over the decades.

But it was #3 for the year. It had the record opening OD and OW against Mohabbatein (which then went on to out gross it and become #2 behind KNPH). BOI has Mission Kashmir budget at 20c. The India Gross at 38.6cr and the Net gross at 22.985. 1.489cr footfall. BOI has it rated as "average".

With MK it comes down to budget and media narrative.

The saying is films don't fail - budgets do. In India it's not only the budget but the fee sold to distributors determines it's hit or flop status. (As an American who follows B.O. it's weird seeing films declared blockbusters when it's matter of profit for distributors more than it's the amount of people seeing it + profit. Blockbuster came about as a movie so popular there are lines around the block to see it) In India if the producers make lots of money but the distributors don't it's not considered a hit. (Major studios distribute their own films in the US - they also distribute WW in man countries. Distributors and theaters losing money is bad for the industry so studios renegotiate but their making profit has nothing to do with how financially successful a movie is seen)

When Hrithik's later films flopped (pre KMG) it became part of the media narrative that MK and Fiza were also flops. (Fiza which was #10 for the year, had .99c footfalls. made 2.66 times it's 5.5cr budget and 7-8cr profits for it producers is rated by BOI as a semi-hit - huh)

Originally posted by: Lennie

Has Varun got too much make up on, or is he suppose to look a certain way with too much make up on???

Felt like was watching Judwaa trailer - same to same Varun was doing, this time its not Anupam Kher but Paresh Rawal with him... lol

varun did look very shiny and weirdly smooth, like he had botox or something

Originally posted by: Aanandaa

When did I say I didn’t know about the movie? But it was never hailed as a classic or anything what with its overdosage of crass humor and double meaning jokes. Not that I know of anyway.🤔

Never a fan of Govinda or his OTT acting in the 90s. But I can't deny that his films were highly successful. But no way can the old Coolie No.1 be called a classic. Not every successful old film deserves to be termed as a 'classic'. There were precious few classics from the 90s though there were lots of entertaining movies. Satya, Rangeela, Sarfarosh,Kabhi haan kabhi naa, Khalnayak, Hum Dil de chuke sanam, Lamhe,KKHH,DDLJ, Hum aapke hain kaun, 1942 a love story would be a few examples of classics. And no I don't like all of them but they define the decade.

Govinda is and will be the king of slapstick, the guy could turn a shit script into comedy gold with his acting, moreover he always had a great chemistry with Karisma. The song "mein to raste se ja raha tha" from the original movie, is proof enough how entertaining both can be.

Varun should stay away from such career ending decisions and Sara ke lie no comments.

Some feeling "mirchi" reading the comments, if Varun cant dance nor act, to hum ky karein. 😆

Varun can get away doing Judwaa because Salman isnt a good actor but not Govinda.