Prabhudeva all set to marry his niece after 9 years of 1st divorce - Page 7

Originally posted by: HearMeRoar

😆I live in a farm town, my friend.

Food chain is food chain. Man not eating meat would not stop that. Then, there are animals which are deliberately allowed to be killed by other animals so as to cull the herd. Ie, animals reproduce whether humans allow it or not. Even if entire humanity were to turn vegetarian, there would still be cattle producing gas. There would still be other animals eating it. Unless you're prepared to preach to the lions or tigers re: vegetarianism, of course. And sterilize cattle.

Ie, environment remains unchanged whether or not man eats meat. Therefore, the harm done by meat eating is to the individual's health. This is science. Except, this doesn't harm another human.

Whereas in a consanguinous marriage, a child could be affected by a disability his or her parents caused.

As you said, science. Not debatable. So your assumption that it is somehow acceptable for some communities is because what? Don't they inherit traits from their parents just like the rest of humanity?

I don’t care whether you live on a farm or not but you my friend have clearly no idea how the meat industry works. Your argument about the food chain holds good only to the animals that were born in a natural manner. Lions and Tigers don’t go around forcefully breeding the cows and other animals. They just pick from the nature on a need basis unlike the humans. It’s high time you educate yourself on this matter dear friend. You can justify all you like for all I care, but animal eating and consumption of animal products (milk, cheese, silk etc) is one of the main things that’s effecting our beloved planet earth. It’s proven scientifically.

Cousin marriages are not even on the top 10 of the list of the things that are hampering the environment. Meat eating/ meat farming is.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Environmental_impact_of_meat_production

EDIT: I am done debating on this topic. You see I used to love playing ringa ringa roses when I was a kid but not anymore. chakkar aajata hai

This is how we do it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YC79B1FKmcU

Originally posted by: sev.puri

I remember when there used to be debates around some Islamic countries practicing the tradition of marrying your cousins, I read that this tradition exists in some places in the South. Frankly, I think India needs to enforce a complete ban on such practices. Chi yaar.

In Islam you are not allowed to marry your niece, this is not the same as a 'cousin marriage'.

Also 'cousin marriages' are not exclusive to Islamic communities (in fact they hardly occur in Muslim communities nowadays). They also occur in may Hindu, Jewish, and African cultures as well (and I'm willing to guess they've reduced in these communities too).

Second there is a lot of missinformation around here about genetics. Scientifically speaking cousin marriages do not carry greater risks of genetic abnormalities in any offspring. There's been a lot of research around this: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/theres-nothing-wrong-with-cousins-getting-married-scientists-say-1210072.html

If this story is true I'm truly shocked. This is Woody Allen level disgusting (actually worse, at leas Son Yi (is that her name?) isn't his biological daughter. I think Morgan Freeman was rumoured to be in a relationship with a niece or a granddaughter as well. What is wrong with these people!?

How can someone sleep with their niece? Perversion should have some limits.

Originally posted by: cutejodikangal

I don’t care whether you live on a farm or not but you my friend have clearly no idea how the meat industry works. Your argument about the food chain holds good only to the animals that were born in a natural manner. Lions and Tigers don’t go around forcefully breeding the cows and other animals. They just pick from the nature on a need basis unlike the humans. It’s high time you educate yourself on this matter dear friend. You can justify all you like for all I care, but animal eating and consumption of animal products (milk, cheese, silk etc) is one of the main things that’s effecting our beloved planet earth. It’s proven scientifically.

Cousin marriages are not even on the top 10 of the list of the things that are hampering the environment. Meat eating/ meat farming is.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Environmental_impact_of_meat_production

EDIT: I am done debating on this topic. You see I used to love playing ringa ringa roses when I was a kid but not anymore. chakkar aajata hai

First, you said that the problems coming from a consanguinous marriage is a matter of opinion. It is not. There are decades upon decades of scientific research to prove it as fact.

Then you somehow conflated 2 very different issues. 1) No matter how much you try to make meat eating about the environment, it won't be. Lions and tigers do not breed cattle, but even in the absence of human intervention, cattle will multiply because animals have that reproductive instinct. That is why sometimes, herds of deer are deliberately culled. 2) Therefore, the impact is on the individual. 3) Not the case with consanguinous marriage where children will end up paying for adult mistakes.

Even if meat eating were the number 1 environmental problem in the world, does that make consanguinous marriage all right as a matter of science? Does that make genetic defects go away in children?

Now you're saying it is not a problem because there aren't that many anyway. That is fine. People can still talk about it because that is the topic of this thread. Prabhudeva marrying his niece.

If this is true it’s quite disturbing and distasteful.

Originally posted by: Anjalika01

Oh I haven’t heard of Marathis doing it.. pretty sure they regard all cousins as brothers/sisters like most of North India 😶...

But idk maybe some communities among them may do it

No apparently its common to marry cousins in marathi communities.

https://www.vepachedu.org/manasanskriti/menarikam.html

Originally posted by: HearMeRoar

Marrying cousin is chi because consangunity breeds diseases. Cousin marriage happened in the old days to keep property in the family. Doesn’t make it right.

You my friend are 100% correct and right on, Consanguinity IS very much real and it is positive and proven in science that the results increase exponentially as there is more and more in-breading in a group of mammals and as close as first/second generation you start to see the results. But you cannot argue the stupid out of people nor beat the logic into them, so...I will ignore the Trump comment...because it is a by-product of defect....Anyway the morality or the social stigma or the attitude that people can do as they please is another issue all together, you all mention how is it allowed here and there but do not mention that in some cultures it is not only illegal by law but it is also highly frowned upon and incest is seen as the complete travesty it is. Even when it is step sisters and brothers, 3rd cousins or whatever, you simply do not go there.

From personal experience I can tell you I have seen it all, it happens in every single country and culture in the world not just India, it happens because every society has sick individuals in their midst, or simply innocent fools that "fall in love" or think they do and have no barriers to say; this should not be.

1. I have seen the result of first cousins who unfortunately bred and the results are too tragic to even recount here. I saw the guilt and devastation the two of them suffered as well as their family, forever. There is no way to help them, it is what it is.

2. I have seen two cousins that bred and their children are perfectly fine and physically beautiful, BUT the two parents are from a culture that frowns on the practice, so they were banished forever,...yes they made their life elsewhere BUT every single time one of the children has an illness, a fever, an asthma attack, they suffer, run from genetic specialist to DNA experts but the worry and concern does not let them sleep at night. I saw the guilt and devastation there too. There is no way to help them it is what it is.

3. I have seen the results of a pair who married and found out too late they were cousins and they had 4 beautiful children before they found out. But you can only see the lovely children at night because they are all perfect albinos, who cannot go out in the bright sun light as they are all blinded by it. I saw the devastation and the guilt they suffer. There is no way to help them it is what it is.

4 . Even in animal husbandry and I am not comparing humans to animals, believe me I value my pets more than I do some humans... but when breading you find other farms to mate your bulls and prize horses and other kennels to breed your award winning pups. If you allow consanguinity you start to get mongrels and very messed up animals...sad.

So with all that said , people. Think about consequences and consanguinity...

NOW THE MOST IMPORTANT: Whoever wrote the article is a very bad writer who has no business publishing anything. FAKE media and rumors are going to be the end of normal society. None of it is confirmed, I mean did he come out and announced he was going to marry his niece? Is she really his blood relative? All of that bears some worth...

But it is an interesting topic. I for one love reading the comments... Peace People..

Remember: The world is filled with beautiful non-relatives.

Originally posted by: HearMeRoar

Deffo not a thing in Malayali communities.

It is. My Malayali Hindu colleague’s parents are cousins.

In Hinduism, you can't marry a person with same gotra(lineage). Thats why it was ok to marry your cross cousin or maternal uncle, in previous generation since they had different gotras. This practice has diminished severely in our generation. Same gotra was probably equivalent to incest.