Naagin 5 - A Not-so Short Take 2 - Page 3

Originally posted by: forest_foliage

Satya Satya Satya Vachan ! Nothing more to add. You've summed it up very well.

Shukriya, shukriya!!😊

Originally posted by: libran90

I am simply bored to death with Bani and her ridiculous stunts as Adi Naagin. What kind of primitive Cheel-Nag nonsense are we watching. Nobody shapeshifts, nobody dies a supernatural death, people are tortured using strings and water and bathtub and rubbish. Bani is always a letdown, but Veeranshu ko bhi aise hi ek episode me dho dala kar diya, kyun???? Why to lift Bani's character, they have to pull the others down. It's outrageous.

Mujhe ek baat jo acchi nahi lagi wo ye ki Bani muder karte karte Veer ki mom ki awaj sunke chali gayi.😔 Ek kaam start kiya hain tumne, use khatam to karo! Phir jaha jana hain chali jao! Wo important kaam hain!

Originally posted by: libran90

Hello people, I am back yet again with a take of the Sunday night which transpired. And mind you I have a long list of complaints, but it will be a not too short take because the episode had nothing much to offer. Infact, I feel that this show is very inconsistent when it comes to episodes. Okay, so please put up with this take, because main woh ranting Naagin ho jiska kaata paani bhi nahi maangta🤣Just kidding!

Highlight No 1 - Horrendous Inconsistency😳

I mean I don't know about other Naagin seasons guys, but this season in my opinion is the baap of inconsistency. I mean one episode shows promising progress, the next episode regresses back to the same ludo corner it started from. I mean what is the problem? Why so much digression? Arre stick to the point. If Bani has developed a soft corner for her husband, stick to it, show her silent internal struggle. If Veeranshu has realized his love, fair enough, but why take away Cheel Rajkumar's edge. He is a sharp man, so maintain it that way. Don't digress so much with the two main leads, both need to individually progress as characters, but both seem to be oscillating from one end to another. Please makers, when you progress with a character, hold that progress, don't regress back. And not just main leads, even the Cheels need some shades, can we see that?? If after 3 months, you regress, it becomes very difficult to root for the show or characters.

Honestly, main apne aap ko is mood swing ke liye tayar kar hi rahi thi. Veer gave that vibe earlier that he's not to be messed with but woh edge is slipping now. I like that in Aakesh. Aakesh was madly in love with Nageshwari but his edge was still there that he want what he wants and he will have it. He knew that Nageshwari is going to break out but took that leap. I mean of course Aakesh thoda sa morally corrupt tha but his consistency was there even after he fell madly in love with Nageshwari.

Veer gave that edge in the beginning. He seemed to be so good at finding a path in between. Thoda sa badtameez, thoda sa morally strong, thoda sa emotional, bohot zyada pagal pyaar mein, kaafi savage in his retorts, highly determined to have his way. Ballu ne accept karne se mana kar diya but he found out a third way. He shifted to another place. Pehle bhi Jay tried to get in between but he had better ways to push him away than fighting like children.

Highlight No 2 - Mindless Comedy

I am sorry, but I am not sure about others, but I did not enjoy the Tom and Jerry equation of Veeranshu and Jai. At least, they can maintain the dignity of Cheel Rajkumar and Adi Nag and not reduce them to a laughing stocking fighting over Adi Naagin. I mean, puhlease, even in daily dramas two girls fighting over one man is still bearable, but this was just too much. They are supernatural creatures, not normal humans. Can you maintain that edge? Jai is already engaging in comic villainy, and now Veeranshu too. I would like to see Veeranshu retain his savagery and sharpness, and Jai stick to his comic villainy. I don't want that to mix up. Veeranshu's one-liners are his USP, and Jai being the ichchadhaari mendhak is his USP.

Highlight No 3 - Baseless Revenge

Okay, so I think and everyone here feels that when we talk of "Naagin ka Inteqaam", it should feel like one as well. But the problem here is, none of the seasons showed that Naagin was engaged with any preaching and morality, because revenge and justice are two different things. Yes, the earlier Naagins never resorted to hurting the innocent, but this revenge and justice combo just bounces off my head.🤪 It's like Bani is an odd mix of Maya Jaisingh (Beyhadh 2) and Durga Thakur (Ek Hasina Thi), with all the faults and no qualities. Both Maya and Durga, co-incidentally names of Adi Shakti, had revenge and justice in their minds respectively. But both of them did a good job out of it. Durga was a preacher and a planner, a hunter, and a savior. She had light. Her rage was her strength. Maya was a killer, an illusion, a mystery, huntress, deranged, psychotic. She was someone who would have tears in her eyes and throttle her enemies. But Bani is nowhere. Like she leans towards none of it. Neither she has the madness of Maya, nor she is the planner Durga. She neither murders with passion, and neither does justice like Durga. I am confused as to where is she? What has she done Adi Naagin worthy that she has been made one? I mean kuch ek banao usko. Ya to Maya banao, jo psycho thi, who wanted revenge with the Roy family yet she never let that come in between her love for Rudra, whose innocence she firmly believed in and embraced his love wholeheartedly, so much that she gave up her intention to kill him. Or make her a Durga, who did not succumb to Dev's love easily, whose sense of justice to nail her sisters' rapists was so strong, that she punished each and every one by isolating, targeting, and putting them in their place. And most importantly, this is a supernatural show, at least maintain that quotient. Cheel killing with a gun, Naagin drowning Cheel in the bathtub. What the hell dude???

I agree with this part. Bani gives that dangerous edge of being Adi-Naagin. That she's up for kill but the part of having an open war is that being even more dangerous. I got the Naagin vibes aur woh dangerous Adi Naagin out for hunt wala vibe but I wish she could plan better and make use of her strengths. I want her to show her predatory side. She has to learn much about being someone who avenges her people. I loved that part so well.

It is confusing. Her oscillating motion is annoying.

Observations:

Today, I am impressed with Meera. She pulled off "Naagin gin gin" so well. I am all applauds for her. The way she trapped Monil was good. Although that was Bani, but still I will take that as Meera. 👏I love hottie Meera.🤗

Bani me kitne bhi issues kyun na ho, she is fun as the ultimate boss lady of the house😆. Like really. First, she threatened Balwant, "Aapki bahu zaroor hu, par Adi Naagin bhi hu", aur Ballu ki bolti band.🤣 Then Navratri ke time pe sattvik bhojan😆. Waise kehte hai khaane ka temperament pe asar hota hai. Kahin sattvik aur phalaahar khilate khilate rakshaso ko devta na bana de ya Naagin😆. Kyunki frankly, iska bachane ka kaam solid hota hai, lekin maarna to isse thenga hota hai.👎🏼 I want to see this enmity equation explored further like there is fun in this open war, yet ajeeb sa underlying comedy to it.

This isn't typically an observation, but these makers need to individualize the lead pair. I mean this is not an ordinary daily soap right, jahaan heroine ki life revolves only around the hero and vice versa. Veeranshu is a Cheel Rajkumar and Bani is Adi Naagin. Life is definitely not fun and games for them. Every day someone new crops up to target them, and still these hardly have done any duties towards their clans. Veeranshu is surely lovesick, and Bani is hatesick, but this is making me sick now. Arre kuch aur bhi dikhao. Characters ko develop karo.

Bani is on her high horse of being "Sarvashresth Adi Naagin", but does nothing to justify it. She used to talk to snakes once upon a time, and now snakes are getting blasted by landmines. Where is the sense of solidarity Adi Naagin? I mean Cheel are jhund shikaris, but majaal hai koi ek dusre ka saath chodke dikhade. Kaminapan aur leechrami to dekha, lekin bonding, and unity bhi dekhti. Dushmani me bhi ek sharafat hoti hai, woh to maintain karti. Dushman se bhi kuch seekh sakhte hai, ye to sochti. No wonder ye zameen pe rengte hai, aur Cheel aasmaano pe raj karte hai. Also, lambi lambi bhi kam pheka karo na didi. Maana ki tumko darr kisi se nahi lagta, lekin uss ghar pe tum apne pati ke kaaran bachi huyi ho. Pati gul, to tumhaare saath khooni khel chalu.

Veeranshu surely needs to be the objective and sharp Cheel amongst these two camps that are ready to pounce on each other at any given moment. Cause jokes apart, Veeranshu is the only one having brains in this entire house. Dushmano ko ek ghar me laake to khada kar diya, lekin inhi dushmano ko ek saath milke rehna bhi sikhana padega. These two are after each other's throats, and Veeranshu has a lot of firefighting coming his way. Don't have too high hopes in Bani but surely do from him. It's like keeping vampires and werewolves in the same house and both cannot stand each other. All the best Veeranshu👍🏼

Abbe ye Markaat hai, ya Hitler ki daadi. Isse to ye saale Cheel bhi darte hai. Do they know she is a woman? Isiliye control haath se chutne ki baat kar rahe the? Khair, Balwant bhaiyya, ek museebat ghar me already hai,ek aur ko bulaawa mat do. Shaktiyon ke saath saath pran pakheru bhi udd jayenge tumhari Cheel body se.

I am sorry, but pata nahi kyun mujhko lagta hai ki ye dono camps ek din ek saath ladenge. Jis Veerashu ke wajah se ye ek dusre ka gala nahi daboch rahe, ek din ussi Veeranshu ke liye hi mil ke ladenge. Although, aasaar kam hai, lekin story to Bholenath like rahe hai, aur unka to funda hi alag hai. Do dushman ki shaadi karwa di, to ye karne me bhi jhijkenge nahi. Hope for the best.

Last but not the least, Bani did not kill Monil. She left before that. Precap it seemed she was defending herself, not declaring that she killed him. Infact, I believe it was Jai who did the deed. And since Monil was tied by that abhimantrit dhaaga, he saw who killed him. So it could be Jai gets exposed. Also, these Cheels will not spare Bani. She hurt their son, they will hurt her family. Going by Utkarsh's BTS, Meera and Mehek were in the Cheel mansion, so if they hurt her sisters, baat sirf badhegi aur kuch nahi. Let's see kya hota hai.

Point toh hai. But I wish that she kills him because I don't want him to die at Jay's hands. I want Bani to get her revenge. Matlab I know ki ajeeb baat keh rahi hun but he deserves to die at the hands of a woman. Noor Bani ki best friend thi, she has to get her revenge.

Khair, enough of my ranting. Please share your comments and views.😊

So I'm here with my rants. Hello...

I agree with what you have said.

Bani lacks the grace that an Adi Naagin would have carried. Bani has a motive but she's not carrying it out well.

I would only say one point, the way she killed Monil seemed right on way that Monil killed Noor. It is a horrendous death for anyone to die like that, helpless, scared shitless and having no way to escape or fight. Woh tadap jo Noor ne mehsoos ki thi, that was supposed to be felt by Monil. Yet, I have to admit, she had to plan it much better and take a path that shows the grace that of an Adi Naagin. She's the first ever Naagin so she has to stand at that point. I agree about what you said about Durga Thakur. She was a planner and hunter. Bani is toh Naagin, she has to be more dangerous. I wish she would have planned the murder well. I feel that Bani cannot get over her emotions and plan well. She has to grow into the mold of an Adi Naagin.

Although, Veer and Jay's encounter was funny and I enjoyed their back and forth but I do admit that it seemed rather childish. I would enjoy it for the moment but when it continues this childish way, I would feel rather irritated. I love Veer's chill savage behavior. Yes, Veer has just learnt that Bani is his janmo janmo ka pyaar and he might feel highly protective of her but I want to have him maintain his savage ness. His fight was childish rather than savage. Last sunday, his encounter was a good one. Funny but they maintained his character. Now, there's a slight inconsistency in his character. Even Aakesh was not like this. I can understand that Veer wants to keep Bani happy and that's why is trying to do whatever she wants but I want him to soon return to his savageness. Uske one liners were so witty and clever that Jay could not find any proper retorts but this is more like a high school playground during lunch. No wonder Bani reacted like a school teacher rather than a wife.

I agree with the part where Veer has to take the stand. Veer has to stand up as Cheel Rajkumar because it is where he has his greatest strength. Veer is level headed and can think before going all crazy like Bani. The way he planned to trap Jay. Lions hunt alone and hence have less chances of achieving the prey but lionesses hunt in groups and hence have greater chances of getting their hunt. I like this unity among the Cheels. They stand together. Majaal hai ek ko akela chod dete.

Matlab if you want to break five sticks together, one has to have that kind of strength to break all of them together or be smart enough to start isolating them one by one and then break them. Bani na toh woh planning dikha rahi hai na hi that crazy strength to be able to break them.

Mujhe bhi bas Veer se hope hai. He is stuck between the worse fights. Ek taraf uski family aur dusri taraf hai uska pyaar. To maintain that is going to cause a great trouble. I hope that at least some of the cheels get a chance to become better.

Bani ka jo mood swing hai woh kaafi khatarnaak hai. Ek moment toh itna worried ho gayi thi about Veer and next day she's cold. I get her confusion but yeh toh wahi baat hai ki na toh maarna chahti but na hi pyaar karna chahti hai. Clarity nahi hai. She's scared that her feelings for Veer won't allow her to extract her revenge if he is wrong (In her mind he could be wrong but we all know he's innocent). With this fear, she's giving this cold-hot treatment. Kabhi itna pyaar dikhati hai aur kabhi general courtesy bhi nahi. This is the reason for my irritation. Ek proper consistency chahiye. You either stay strong on the path of not breaking at all or break apart for him openly and let your heart accept him. Yeh halfwave oscillation thoda sa irritating hai.

Bani and Ballu ke beech ki cat and mouse game was actually well. She knew how to take her stand. I want her to be able to take the leverage of Shukla and Ballu and use it to her advantage. That would be interesting.

I almost loved how all the four cheel almost shut up instantly when she showed her Naagin eyes. Almost reminded me of my SS. 😆 Just as how I wished.

Originally posted by: J2lover

The Highlight I took from yesterday's episode was, Veer and Jay encouraging bani's so called Aadi-Naagin-ness, for which she's already riding on the high horse! The Revenge is baseless but what's more baseless is the justice part she keeps talking about! I felt the part where she was standing infront of Goddess idol and asking for her help as if she's some kind of, 'Insaaf ki devi'! Who is she to decide, who should be punished and who shouldn't?🤔 They are making her the hunter and the others the culprits! And why are cheels so weak in the first place? That a thought never crosses her mind that they are equally poweful?

Kuch nahi hai woh Bani. Uss 2-rupee Naag mandir ke pujaari se bhi gayi guzri hai woh. Mujhko pata nahi iska kya hoga. Future bahut bleak hai boss

I thought we had signed up for a war between equals! I found that whole scene, full of bani's empty vanity! And she's going to spare Veeranshu? Like seriously?😆 SPARE? Who's she to spare him? A reincarnation of some divine being? That sparing also had a, 'if'! If Veeranshu is innocent, then she'll spare him!I was like, 'So, you are the most sinless person on earth?

Woh to pata nahi kitne oonche horse pe baithi hai. Kahin ghoda hinhinaaya, to kya ye Aakesh ki tarah hi khaayi me gir na jaaye. Ye Bani gaddhe me nahi giregi, gaddha Bani pe girega.🤣

Am really hating the fact that they are making bani the only predator here! No one is above her? Her superiority has to be crubbed! And why so much of attitude for Veer even now? I agree, Veer needs to come out of his love-sick puppy behaviour!

Predator??? Isse achcha predator to akhaade ka bail hoga. Kaahe ka predator bolte hai iss Naagin ko. She is only a Pre-dater, woh bhi 10,000 saal purani Pre-dater.🤣

If bani can find 10,000 flaws in cheels clan, why are the cheels not targetting other snakes? This seems like a one-sided war! Wherein bani is the, 'Karta dharta of everything' and the decision maker that who will live and who will die!🤢 The inefficiency of cheels needs to be worked on!

Cheels have been doing that only my dear. Khud Ballu ne kaha tha, that they have tortured and killed shape-shifting serpents for the longest time, to hunt down Adi Naagin. Sabse mast popat to Adi Naagin kaat rahi hai Naago ki. Usko pata bhi nahi hai iss yug me kya kya kiya hai Cheelo ne. Satyug ka hatyakaand ka 10,000 saal baad badla legi, to Kalyug ka to 10,000 saal baad legi lagta hai. Upar se uska success rate nil raha hai ab tak.😆

Regarding Veer! I swear if they keep the love-sickness of his even next week, am skipping the episodes! Veer is the sole reason I watch the show, if he's ruined what's left!🤔 He was behaving hypnotized yesterday! Agreeing to everything bani says? Like letting jay stay was not acceptable at all! He better has something on his mind, or else, it would be a sheer disappointment to see the most well written character getting distorted to no end!🤔 I was really shocked that he wasn't a tad bit concerned about his family? When did he become this selfish? He has nothing to do or think about except bani?I was really feeling bad looking at his character yesterday! HE SHOULDN'T TAKE HER SHIT ANYMORE! As much right she has to hate him, he also has, its just he isn't choosing to! Regarding her feelings for him, its definitely only in the last episode that she'll maybe confess! She's so consumed being Aadi-Naagin that the bani in her overpowers her! Her constant, 'Hum naagvansh', 'humara naagvansh', where in she refers to jay and herself disconnects her from being bani! The inconsistency! You are right! Just yesterday she was bani, Veeranshu's wife, who saved him from death and today she's back to being a naagin, supporting jay infront of him and defending him at every instance?🤔 She's playing with both of them? She's a pain to watch!🤢

Firstly, how long do we tolerate Jai? October to chala gaya. November bhi chala jayega tab jaake iski pol khulegi. Aur iss Bani ko koi ghar se baahar kyun nahi nikalta. Koi nikalega, woh akeli hogi, tab hi to uski akal thikaane aayegi. Uss bailbuddhi ko to warna Bholenath zameen pe utarke bhi help nahi kar paayenge. In short, VEERANSHU NEEDS TO LET BANI GO!!! PLEASE JAANE DO PANAUTI MADAM KO.

Her killing monil was the only rational thing in the entire episode, but even that had loopholes!😆

First of all, Monil ko rapist banaya kyun? To justify her act of killing? Kyunki otherwise loophole ke chalte she cannot attack them. To ab kya Bani? Are you ready for consequences, kyunki Cheel ne to attack kiya nahi. Aur inn Cheelo ne Meera ya kisi aur pe attack kiya, tab kya???

Monil hadn't attacked her? How come she attacked him then? 3 months! They freakin spent 3 months, bani instigating Veeranshu to attack her, for this very reason! Now, suddenly she can attack another cheel? Its frustating to watch this inconsistency!

I don't know dude. They have taken their human form way too seriously. That they have forgotten that they are shapeshifters.

Keeping logic aside, I enjoyed the banter between jay-veeru!😆 Yeah it was 5 year old-ish but fine! I always want someone who keeps jay in check! I want him out the house so bad!!!😵

Anyway, there is nil logic, mujhko aur bhi logic less cheeze nahi dekhni hai.

Am frankly interested in the story ahead, but the screenplay is going to make me skip episodes I guess! Its better to read written updates than watching the horrible inconsistency!😆 And if they continue to ruin Veer, am gonna call it quits! Veer nahi toh N5 nahi!

I really hope this is a one-episode thing that the Aakesh in Veeranshu overwhelmed him. Hope next episode the loverboy takes a backseat and Cheel Rajkumar takes the forefront.

Originally posted by: Shirsha90

Mujhe ek baat jo acchi nahi lagi wo ye ki Bani muder karte karte Veer ki mom ki awaj sunke chali gayi.😔 Ek kaam start kiya hain tumne, use khatam to karo! Phir jaha jana hain chali jao! Wo important kaam hain!

Woh kya hai na, woh Adi Naagin ke saath saath Aadhi Naagin bhi hai.😆 Sab kaam adhura chod deti hai. Teer ko adhura maara, Mayuri ke case ko abhi bhi explore nahi kiya, Shukla ke baare me pata nahi kiya, aur pata nahi kya kya adhura chodegi. Monil ke death ko bhi adhura hi chod degi.

Originally posted by: libran90

Woh kya hai na, woh Adi Naagin ke saath saath Aadhi Naagin bhi hai.😆 Sab kaam adhura chod deti hai. Teer ko adhura maara, Mayuri ke case ko abhi bhi explore nahi kiya, Shukla ke baare me pata nahi kiya, aur pata nahi kya kya adhura chodegi. Monil ke death ko bhi adhura hi chod degi.

Ye lo! More Jay coming along with more Revenge, more romance.

https://twitter.com/chinuagarwal11/status/1325697085782413312?s=21

More logic too please? 😳

Originally posted by: libran90

Bani ko sab maaf to hai. But iska matlab ye nahi ki Veeranshu should let this go. And if he really wants to do something about it, he should do something to emotionally shake her up. He is grey right. If Jay is that piece of this emotional wreck of a Bani, then so be it. Badla lene ke bahut tareeke hote hai. Maut ke badle itihaas ki maut, dhoke ke badle emotional dhoke ko expose karna. Bina talwaar chalaye cheer ke rakh dene ko as badla count kiya ja sakta hai. Aur phir sambhaalega bhi woh.

Originally posted by: Manoshono

Ye lo! More Jay coming along with more Revenge, more romance.

https://twitter.com/chinuagarwal11/status/1325697085782413312?s=21

More logic too please? 😳