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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: libran90

Hello people, I am back yet again with a take of the Sunday night which transpired. And mind you I have a long list of complaints, but it will be a not too short take because the episode had nothing much to offer. Infact, I feel that this show is very inconsistent when it comes to episodes. Okay, so please put up with this take, because main woh ranting Naagin ho jiska kaata paani bhi nahi maangta🤣Just kidding!

Highlight No 1 - Horrendous Inconsistency😳

I mean I don't know about other Naagin seasons guys, but this season in my opinion is the baap of inconsistency. I mean one episode shows promising progress, the next episode regresses back to the same ludo corner it started from. I mean what is the problem? Why so much digression? Arre stick to the point. If Bani has developed a soft corner for her husband, stick to it, show her silent internal struggle. If Veeranshu has realized his love, fair enough, but why take away Cheel Rajkumar's edge. He is a sharp man, so maintain it that way. Don't digress so much with the two main leads, both need to individually progress as characters, but both seem to be oscillating from one end to another. Please makers, when you progress with a character, hold that progress, don't regress back. And not just main leads, even the Cheels need some shades, can we see that?? If after 3 months, you regress, it becomes very difficult to root for the show or characters.

Highlight No 2 - Mindless Comedy

I am sorry, but I am not sure about others, but I did not enjoy the Tom and Jerry equation of Veeranshu and Jai. At least, they can maintain the dignity of Cheel Rajkumar and Adi Nag and not reduce them to a laughing stocking fighting over Adi Naagin. I mean, puhlease, even in daily dramas two girls fighting over one man is still bearable, but this was just too much. They are supernatural creatures, not normal humans. Can you maintain that edge? Jai is already engaging in comic villainy, and now Veeranshu too. I would like to see Veeranshu retain his savagery and sharpness, and Jai stick to his comic villainy. I don't want that to mix up. Veeranshu's one-liners are his USP, and Jai being the ichchadhaari mendhak is his USP.

Highlight No 3 - Baseless Revenge

Okay, so I think and everyone here feels that when we talk of "Naagin ka Inteqaam", it should feel like one as well. But the problem here is, none of the seasons showed that Naagin was engaged with any preaching and morality, because revenge and justice are two different things. Yes, the earlier Naagins never resorted to hurting the innocent, but this revenge and justice combo just bounces off my head.🤪 It's like Bani is an odd mix of Maya Jaisingh (Beyhadh 2) and Durga Thakur (Ek Hasina Thi), with all the faults and no qualities. Both Maya and Durga, co-incidentally names of Adi Shakti, had revenge and justice in their minds respectively. But both of them did a good job out of it. Durga was a preacher and a planner, a hunter, and a savior. She had light. Her rage was her strength. Maya was a killer, an illusion, a mystery, huntress, deranged, psychotic. She was someone who would have tears in her eyes and throttle her enemies. But Bani is nowhere. Like she leans towards none of it. Neither she has the madness of Maya, nor she is the planner Durga. She neither murders with passion, and neither does justice like Durga. I am confused as to where is she? What has she done Adi Naagin worthy that she has been made one? I mean kuch ek banao usko. Ya to Maya banao, jo psycho thi, who wanted revenge with the Roy family yet she never let that come in between her love for Rudra, whose innocence she firmly believed in and embraced his love wholeheartedly, so much that she gave up her intention to kill him. Or make her a Durga, who did not succumb to Dev's love easily, whose sense of justice to nail her sisters' rapists was so strong, that she punished each and every one by isolating, targeting, and putting them in their place. And most importantly, this is a supernatural show, at least maintain that quotient. Cheel killing with a gun, Naagin drowning Cheel in the bathtub. What the hell dude???

Observations:

Today, I am impressed with Meera. She pulled off "Naagin gin gin" so well. I am all applauds for her. The way she trapped Monil was good. Although that was Bani, but still I will take that as Meera. 👏I love hottie Meera.🤗

Bani me kitne bhi issues kyun na ho, she is fun as the ultimate boss lady of the house😆. Like really. First, she threatened Balwant, "Aapki bahu zaroor hu, par Adi Naagin bhi hu", aur Ballu ki bolti band.🤣 Then Navratri ke time pe sattvik bhojan😆. Waise kehte hai khaane ka temperament pe asar hota hai. Kahin sattvik aur phalaahar khilate khilate rakshaso ko devta na bana de ya Naagin😆. Kyunki frankly, iska bachane ka kaam solid hota hai, lekin maarna to isse thenga hota hai.👎🏼 I want to see this enmity equation explored further like there is fun in this open war, yet ajeeb sa underlying comedy to it.

This isn't typically an observation, but these makers need to individualize the lead pair. I mean this is not an ordinary daily soap right, jahaan heroine ki life revolves only around the hero and vice versa. Veeranshu is a Cheel Rajkumar and Bani is Adi Naagin. Life is definitely not fun and games for them. Every day someone new crops up to target them, and still these hardly have done any duties towards their clans. Veeranshu is surely lovesick, and Bani is hatesick, but this is making me sick now. Arre kuch aur bhi dikhao. Characters ko develop karo.

Bani is on her high horse of being "Sarvashresth Adi Naagin", but does nothing to justify it. She used to talk to snakes once upon a time, and now snakes are getting blasted by landmines. Where is the sense of solidarity Adi Naagin? I mean Cheel are jhund shikaris, but majaal hai koi ek dusre ka saath chodke dikhade. Kaminapan aur leechrami to dekha, lekin bonding, and unity bhi dekhti. Dushmani me bhi ek sharafat hoti hai, woh to maintain karti. Dushman se bhi kuch seekh sakhte hai, ye to sochti. No wonder ye zameen pe rengte hai, aur Cheel aasmaano pe raj karte hai. Also, lambi lambi bhi kam pheka karo na didi. Maana ki tumko darr kisi se nahi lagta, lekin uss ghar pe tum apne pati ke kaaran bachi huyi ho. Pati gul, to tumhaare saath khooni khel chalu.

Veeranshu surely needs to be the objective and sharp Cheel amongst these two camps that are ready to pounce on each other at any given moment. Cause jokes apart, Veeranshu is the only one having brains in this entire house. Dushmano ko ek ghar me laake to khada kar diya, lekin inhi dushmano ko ek saath milke rehna bhi sikhana padega. These two are after each other's throats, and Veeranshu has a lot of firefighting coming his way. Don't have too high hopes in Bani but surely do from him. It's like keeping vampires and werewolves in the same house and both cannot stand each other. All the best Veeranshu👍🏼

Abbe ye Markaat hai, ya Hitler ki daadi. Isse to ye saale Cheel bhi darte hai. Do they know she is a woman? Isiliye control haath se chutne ki baat kar rahe the? Khair, Balwant bhaiyya, ek museebat ghar me already hai,ek aur ko bulaawa mat do. Shaktiyon ke saath saath pran pakheru bhi udd jayenge tumhari Cheel body se.

I am sorry, but pata nahi kyun mujhko lagta hai ki ye dono camps ek din ek saath ladenge. Jis Veerashu ke wajah se ye ek dusre ka gala nahi daboch rahe, ek din ussi Veeranshu ke liye hi mil ke ladenge. Although, aasaar kam hai, lekin story to Bholenath like rahe hai, aur unka to funda hi alag hai. Do dushman ki shaadi karwa di, to ye karne me bhi jhijkenge nahi. Hope for the best.

Last but not the least, Bani did not kill Monil. She left before that. Precap it seemed she was defending herself, not declaring that she killed him. Infact, I believe it was Jai who did the deed. And since Monil was tied by that abhimantrit dhaaga, he saw who killed him. So it could be Jai gets exposed. Also, these Cheels will not spare Bani. She hurt their son, they will hurt her family. Going by Utkarsh's BTS, Meera and Mehek were in the Cheel mansion, so if they hurt her sisters, baat sirf badhegi aur kuch nahi. Let's see kya hota hai.

Khair, enough of my ranting. Please share your comments and views.😊

I agree with most of the points. 😊 I didn't enjoy Jay and Veer's comedy scenes as well. I seriously don't understand how the cheels allowed Jay to stay in the mansion. That's not possible! I laughed when I read "cheel killing with a gun...". 😆 I tried to make a meme on it and posted that on the meme thread of this forum a few days ago. Yes, the makers should show different shades of cheels. When Bani said that she wanted to kill Veer's family members yesterday Veer didn't say anything! They should show Veeranshu's anger, smartness and dangerous attitude for his enemies (Jay and other creatures). I liked the fact that Noor's death mystery finally solved yesterday. I really liked Bani attacked Monil because he deserved that. She did that even though Lord Shiva said she wouldn't be able to attack a cheel first. I think she took Meera's form, so she could attack him. This is my assumption and I'm not completely sure. I am also disappointed that some serpents died to the bomb blast. I thought Bani would save all the serpents as she is their leader. Jay forgot he was a naag 😆 and he entered Singhania mansion as a Punjabi guy. He could easily shape-shift into any other person! Sohini, you wanted to see a handsome Markat. But the markers changed Markat's gender! How can they change Markat's gender suddenly? 😳🥱They used male voice for Markat in another episode and the devil was called "Mrityu ka Devta" at the beginning of this season. The makers should maintain a consistency. I liked Surbhi Chadna's acting this week.

Edited by Shirsha90 - 5 years ago
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The best thing of this show is Veeranshu Singhania, from the first episode makers have shown his character really different from others...i was expecting a lot from veer but makers seriously have spoiled everything...they should have shown him wise like earlier who knew how to deal with his enemies, here he knows that bani won't accept the truth about jay so he should try to show her the mirror, should collect the proofs or push her to find out more about jay...another thing is bani, like other season's naagins they should have shown bani wise but no they're portraying her as dumb..like she didn't kill teer later she got to know about the same then she hasn't killed monil but again she will deliver the dialogue or something but won't try to find out the real culprit..when veer has clearly told her to find out the truth about jay then why she's not trying to do so...

I understand bani will always take jay's side but what about the other cheel members why didn't they kick out that jay out of their house..how easily they accepted to keep jay in their house....veer didn't even utter a word after that...

Second thing why bani is not revealing Shukla's truth to veer and other members, as now everyone knows that she's adi naagin so she doesn't have to worry about shukla's threats

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Originally posted by: AnnieSKaur

The best thing of this show is Veeranshu Singhania, from the first episode makers have shown his character really different from others...i was expecting a lot from veer but makers seriously have spoiled everything...they should have shown him wise like earlier who knew how to deal with his enemies, here he knows that bani won't accept the truth about jay so he should try to show her the mirror, should collect the proofs or push her to find out more about jay...another thing is bani, like other season's naagins they should have shown bani wise but no they're portraying her as dumb..like she didn't kill teer later she got to know about the same then she hasn't killed monil but again she will deliver the dialogue or something but won't try to find out the real culprit..when veer has clearly told her to find out the truth about jay then why she's not trying to do so...

I understand bani will always take jay's side but what about the other cheel members why didn't they kick out that jay out of their house..how easily they accepted to keep jay in their house....veer didn't even utter a word after that...

Second thing why bani is not revealing Shukla's truth to veer and other members, as now everyone knows that she's adi naagin so she doesn't have to worry about shukla's threats

Exactly! I have the same question. Why didn't the cheels kick Jay out of the house?

Edited by Shirsha90 - 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: forest_foliage

Saari bhadaas nikal di tumne iss post mein. Honestly, I can't connect with Bani's character because of her oscillating between growing a soft corner for Veeranshu & still not being able to exclude him from her target list. Usko ab bhi lagta hai ki Veer farebi hai, iss Andhi Naagin se bachao koi hum sabko ! She's one impulsive & arrogant Naagin as of now. Adi ya Sarvashreshth jaise koi qualities hai hi nahi. She also made it clear that she trusts Jai more than Veer. I want to see Veer maintaining the essence of his character, because the other characters are hopeless to be honest. Great review Sohini, I agree with you. Bani is a horrible mess. The less said about Jai, the better. All hopes are pinned on Veeranshu, he's a supernatural creature for God's sake, he can do so much better than indulging in petty fights with Jai. And one thing just bounced off my head - Veer got stabbed, and not for once Bani thought about asking him if he's okay ?! No private conversation between VAni after Veer recollected his past, and Jai casually comes to stay in the Cheel mansion & Bani takes his side ? Is she even taking her marriage seriously ? Yesterday's episode was so disappointing yaar, jitna bhi bolun kam hoga.

Bhadaas to ye hai nahi. It's something that we all have been saying consistently. It's not even frustrating anymore. It's just annoying. The problem is 10,000-year-old revenge and curse has been downplayed to such an extent that it isn't even funny. Bani's actions and revenge cannot be justified anymore. Her pain cannot be justified anymore. Her agony cannot be justified anymore. She is coming across as juvenile and petty. Her sense of justice is strong, but her sense of judgement is rotten. If that isn't enough, her presence is rotting the essence of other characters too. I mean usko balance out karne ke chakkar me, dusre characters ko kitna neeche kar diya. Veeranshu ko bhi and Cheelo ko bhi. It's bad.

Edited by libran90 - 5 years ago
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Posted: 5 years ago
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You elaborated really well

Will come And share my thoughts in a while

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Originally posted by: libran90

Bhadaas to ye hai nahi. It's something that we all have been saying consistently. It's not even frustrating anymore. It's just annoying. The problem is 10,000-year-old revenge and curse has been downplayed to such an extent that it isn't even funny. Bani's actions and revenge cannot be justified anymore. Her pain cannot be justified anymore. Her agony cannot be justified anymore. She is coming across as juvenile and petty. Her sense of justice is strong, but her sense of justice is rotten. If that isn't enough, her presence is rotting the essence of other characters too. I mean usko balance out karne ke chakkar me, dusre characters ko kitna neeche kar diya. Veeranshu ko bhi and Cheelo ko bhi. It's bad.

Satya Satya Satya Vachan ! Nothing more to add. You've summed it up very well.
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Originally posted by: amlavs

Res

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Wow... bravo behna🤗

Thanks, Lavi dear😊

Nothing more to add...👍🏼

Bani is back to her bakwass and am back to hate her...

Man plzzz make her stick to one point about Veer...her oscillation of feelings is making me hate her... no consistency at all. What kind of Naagin she is...she is 2 proud of her position ..

What happend to Veeranshu?? Fighting like kid plzz for 1 episode it ok...hope he 'll be back.. No one including Veer doesnt worry about he being stabbed... For once Bani didn't question Jay y he took her form ??

It was really juvenile. I don't expect this behavior from Veeranshu. Usko apni biwi ke saath romantic hona hai to ho. But in the privacy of his room. Ye sare aam nonsense karne ki kya zarurat hai. He has confidence in his love, he doesn't trust Jai, fair enough, but usko ye sab karne ki zarurat hai kya? And Bani ko mangalsutra pehen ke wife hone ki dhaus jamani hai, lekin usko bhi zaleel karna hai. Ye bhi kaha sahi hai

Am not ok with his blind love for Bani as he said "sab maaf hai" for Bani... he is being Akesh for Bani... she is openly challenging him..he didn't take stand..is out of his character...

But he shouldn't slip away as Veer... one thing is that he don't care about anyone other than Bani...

Bani ko sab maaf to hai. But iska matlab ye nahi ki Veeranshu should let this go. And if he really wants to do something about it, he should do something to emotionally shake her up. He is grey right. If Jay is that piece of this emotional wreck of a Bani, then so be it. Badla lene ke bahut tareeke hote hai. Maut ke badle itihaas ki maut, dhoke ke badle emotional dhoke ko expose karna. Bina talwaar chalaye cheer ke rakh dene ko as badla count kiya ja sakta hai. Aur phir sambhaalega bhi woh.

Jay yaar...till he is exposed nothing is gonna change...

Yes...Am sure that Bani is not the one who killed Monil...that will be looser dhabelwala....

Exactly!

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The Highlight I took from yesterday's episode was, Veer and Jay encouraging bani's so called Aadi-Naagin-ness, for which she's already riding on the high horse! The Revenge is baseless but what's more baseless is the justice part she keeps talking about! I felt the part where she was standing infront of Goddess idol and asking for her help as if she's some kind of, 'Insaaf ki devi'! Who is she to decide, who should be punished and who shouldn't?🤔 They are making her the hunter and the others the culprits! And why are cheels so weak in the first place? That a thought never crosses her mind that they are equally poweful?

I thought we had signed up for a war between equals! I found that whole scene, full of bani's empty vanity! And she's going to spare Veeranshu? Like seriously?😆 SPARE? Who's she to spare him? A reincarnation of some divine being? That sparing also had a, 'if'! If Veeranshu is innocent, then she'll spare him!I was like, 'So, you are the most sinless person on earth?

Am really hating the fact that they are making bani the only predator here! No one is above her? Her superiority has to be crubbed! And why so much of attitude for Veer even now? I agree, Veer needs to come out of his love-sick puppy behaviour!

If bani can find 10,000 flaws in cheels clan, why are the cheels not targetting other snakes? This seems like a one-sided war! Wherein bani is the, 'Karta dharta of everything' and the decision maker that who will live and who will die!🤢 The inefficiency of cheels needs to be worked on!

Regarding Veer! I swear if they keep the love-sickness of his even next week, am skipping the episodes! Veer is the sole reason I watch the show, if he's ruined what's left!🤔 He was behaving hypnotized yesterday! Agreeing to everything bani says? Like letting jay stay was not acceptable at all! He better has something on his mind, or else, it would be a sheer disappointment to see the most well written character getting distorted to no end!🤔 I was really shocked that he wasn't a tad bit concerned about his family? When did he become this selfish? He has nothing to do or think about except bani?I was really feeling bad looking at his character yesterday! HE SHOULDN'T TAKE HER SHIT ANYMORE! As much right she has to hate him, he also has, its just he isn't choosing to! Regarding her feelings for him, its definitely only in the last episode that she'll maybe confess! She's so consumed being Aadi-Naagin that the bani in her overpowers her! Her constant, 'Hum naagvansh', 'humara naagvansh', where in she refers to jay and herself disconnects her from being bani! The inconsistency! You are right! Just yesterday she was bani, Veeranshu's wife, who saved him from death and today she's back to being a naagin, supporting jay infront of him and defending him at every instance?🤔 She's playing with both of them? She's a pain to watch!🤢

Her killing monil was the only rational thing in the entire episode, but even that had loopholes!😆

Monil hadn't attacked her? How come she attacked him then? 3 months! They freakin spent 3 months, bani instigating Veeranshu to attack her, for this very reason! Now, suddenly she can attack another cheel? Its frustating to watch this inconsistency!

Keeping logic aside, I enjoyed the banter between jay-veeru!😆 Yeah it was 5 year old-ish but fine! I always want someone who keeps jay in check! I want him out the house so bad!!!😵

Am frankly interested in the story ahead, but the screenplay is going to make me skip episodes I guess! Its better to read written updates than watching the horrible inconsistency!😆 And if they continue to ruin Veer, am gonna call it quits! Veer nahi toh N5 nahi!

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Originally posted by: Shirsha90

I agree with most of the points. 😊 I didn't enjoy Jay and Veer's comedy scenes as well. I seriously don't understand how the cheels allowed Jay to stay in the mansion. That's not possible! I laughed when I read "cheel killing with a gun...". 😆 I tried to make a meme on it and posted that on the meme thread of this forum. Yes, the makers should show different shades of cheels. When Bani said that she wanted to kill Veer's family members yesterday Veer didn't say anything! They should show Veeranshu's anger, smartness and dangerous attitude for his enemies (Jay and other creatures). I liked the fact that Noor's death mystery finally solved yesterday. I really liked Bani attacked Monil because he deserved that. She did that even though Lord Shiva said she wouldn't be able to attack a cheel first. I think she took Meera's form, so she could attack him. This is my assumption and I'm not completely sure. I am also disappointed that some serpents died to the bomb blast. I thought Bani would save all the serpents as she is their leader. Jay forgot he was a naag 😆 and he entered Singhania mansion as a Punjabi guy. He could easily shape-shift into any other person! Sohini, you wanted to see a handsome Markat. But the markers changed Markat's gender! How can they change Markat's gender suddenly? 😳🥱They used male voice for Markat in another episode and the devil was called "Mrityu ka Devta" at the beginning of this season. The makers should maintain a consistency. I liked Surbhi Chadna's performance this week.

I am simply bored to death with Bani and her ridiculous stunts as Adi Naagin. What kind of primitive Cheel-Nag nonsense are we watching. Nobody shapeshifts, nobody dies a supernatural death, people are tortured using strings and water and bathtub and rubbish. Bani is always a letdown, but Veeranshu ko bhi aise hi ek episode me dho dala kar diya, kyun???? Why to lift Bani's character, they have to pull the others down. It's outrageous.

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Originally posted by: AnnieSKaur

The best thing of this show is Veeranshu Singhania, from the first episode makers have shown his character really different from others...i was expecting a lot from veer but makers seriously have spoiled everything...they should have shown him wise like earlier who knew how to deal with his enemies, here he knows that bani won't accept the truth about jay so he should try to show her the mirror, should collect the proofs or push her to find out more about jay...another thing is bani, like other season's naagins they should have shown bani wise but no they're portraying her as dumb..like she didn't kill teer later she got to know about the same then she hasn't killed monil but again she will deliver the dialogue or something but won't try to find out the real culprit..when veer has clearly told her to find out the truth about jay then why she's not trying to do so...

Bani's rotting presence has rotted the essence of the other characters. Waise hi uska sthar itna gir chuka hai, usko uthane ke chakkar me baakiyo ko gira rahe hai. Monil ko rapist bana diya in a single episode. Ab pata nahi aur kya karenge.

I understand bani will always take jay's side but what about the other cheel members why didn't they kick out that jay out of their house..how easily they accepted to keep jay in their house....veer didn't even utter a word after that...

Cheel Rajkumar ki khilaafat kaun karega. Pata nahi sab out of character kaise ho gaye???

Second thing why bani is not revealing Shukla's truth to veer and other members, as now everyone knows that she's adi naagin so she doesn't have to worry about shukla's threats

Ek self-obsessed Adi Naagin se itni umeed mat rakho. Main bhi nahi rakhti. Aur kaun believe karega usko??

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