15/10/20 Highlights- Devraj innocent! - Page 2

Originally posted by: madhu245

Ideally After Suman apologizes to shravan for the way she behaved with him and the uncalled rude behavior and calling devraj deshdrohi she should move on from shravan and Shravan from Suman.... I don't think people are grasping the magnitude of what devraj's negligence has resulted in... You know they said good intentions pave the path to hell Na he had no experience in army deals and all he unfairly got deal and then was negligent towards the quality of vest which resulted in an family being shattered with Vijay dead anjali dead from the trauma daddu presumably dead oh come on anyone would fight the case.... Suman isn't responsible for shravan's families pain there had to be consequences for devraj's actions which his son and family bore also chachi and avni not standing by chachu during tough times how are tiwaris responsible for it but shravan has a grudge that tiwaris house has lights on and I am alone they are happy I am not.. That scene did not sit well with me... Both have undergone immense pain... I actually don't possibly see how Suman can be with shravan in the future even if she forgives devraj which will be asking a lot from her them being together it's not feasible... I don't really think this made for each other thing holds true

Originally posted by: kankabhor

There were two cases. One from Army and one from Suman. The army closed their case within 4 years which is a realistic time frame. Even Kasab got capital punishment in 4 years even after having all evidence. It is the Indian judicial system😆. 7 years is not unrealistic, to be honest. There was no enough hard evidence against Devraj but several circumstantial evidence. Or Suman might have pressed additional charges after Army closed the case.

There is extra bitterness from Shravan because Suman did not accept the Army's verdict and was fighting only for her ego by ignoring evidence.

Originally posted by: madhu245

Ideally After Suman apologizes to shravan for the way she behaved with him and the uncalled rude behavior and calling devraj deshdrohi she should move on from shravan and Shravan from Suman.... I don't think people are grasping the magnitude of what devraj's negligence has resulted in... You know they said good intentions pave the path to hell Na he had no experience in army deals and all he unfairly got deal and then was negligent towards the quality of vest which resulted in an family being shattered with Vijay dead anjali dead from the trauma daddu presumably dead oh come on anyone would fight the case.... Suman isn't responsible for shravan's families pain there had to be consequences for devraj's actions which his son and family bore also chachi and avni not standing by chachu during tough times how are tiwaris responsible for it but shravan has a grudge that tiwaris house has lights on and I am alone they are happy I am not.. That scene did not sit well with me... Both have undergone immense pain... I actually don't possibly see how Suman can be with shravan in the future even if she forgives devraj which will be asking a lot from her them being together it's not feasible... I don't really think this made for each other thing holds true

This. I agreed. Shravan still looked more angry on Suman to accuse Devraj than Suman thrashing their relationship. Lol.

@ Bold : As much as Suman has been called Delusional, which she is, I don't see Shravan being less delusional in this matter. In this episode it was open and out about Devraj's negligence. He is the OWNER. It's not a small thing. And Shravan, oh god his faith in his father's eithical, principled behavior is on high sky level. Lol there should have been some reaction from his side that Devraj had made such a mistake. And he must be aware of the fact that his father has bribed people in the past so that Vijay doesn't arrive on time. And if this doesn't make him see beyond. I don't know what will. His "how can they say this about my dad" needs to be changed. It seemed like he wanted Suman to believe in his dad like the way He did. Lol. His conversation with Vikram was like "it's her perception that she thinks my father is a traitor" . One side, he is mature and the other side, a delusional boy. Inconsistency😵

@ Pink : That scene left a bad taste. After the verdict he came to Suman and was like "Vijay uncle was not only my teacher but I see him as equal as my father" . Matlab that night he was salty of Tiwari house ke ghar mein roshni hai aur Malhotra house me andhera. Again very inconsistent. Wohi Tiwari house mein tumhare Vijay uncle and pita samman got Martyred as a Victim. As if they didn't beared the loss.

There are many people who are straight away thrashing Suman and literally covering Shravan's delusion.

Guys.

- Devraj was the face of the company and he still is regarded as *laparwah* who unintentionally allowed the production of bad quality vests.

He bribed people so that Vijay doesn't know about what the hell he was doing.

Even i don't know.

But telling Suman to behave mature at 17 is just something else.

What should she do after reading a legit letter from her father that at this time, having a boyfriend is wrong.

She lived with her parents for 17 years, she followed her dadu all her life and you all say that she shouldn't trust them but a guy whom she had met only an year ago.

An year old relation, and that too apparently a bit distance (short-long) can't stand such a big misunderstanding. I can see ages long relationships breaking because of family problems.

Because family is family. They are the ones who make you.

So lets stop blaming Suman, and support both Suman and Shravan in their delusion equally.

Originally posted by: raahiyaan

This. I agreed. Shravan still looked more angry on Suman to accuse Devraj than Suman thrashing their relationship. Lol.

@ Bold : As much as Suman has been called Delusional, which she is, I don't see Shravan being less delusional in this matter. In this episode it was open and out about Devraj's negligence. He is the OWNER. It's not a small thing. And Shravan, oh god his faith in his father's eithical, principled behavior is on high sky level. Lol there should have been some reaction from his side that Devraj had made such a mistake. And he must be aware of the fact that his father has bribed people in the past so that Vijay doesn't arrive on time. And if this doesn't make him see beyond. I don't know what will. His "how can they say this about my dad" needs to be changed. It seemed like he wanted Suman to believe in his dad like the way He did. Lol. His conversation with Vikram was like "it's her perception that she thinks my father is a traitor" . One side, he is mature and the other side, a delusional boy. Inconsistency😵

@ Pink : That scene left a bad taste. After the verdict he came to Suman and was like "Vijay uncle was not only my teacher but I see him as equal as my father" . Matlab that night he was salty of Tiwari house ke ghar mein roshni hai aur Malhotra house me andhera. Again very inconsistent. Wohi Tiwari house mein tumhare Vijay uncle and pita samman got Martyred as a Victim. As if they didn't beared the loss.

Yeah, I agree with you cent percent.

We should accept that Shravan is also a bit in his delusional land. Blaming Suman left right and centre. Why cant people see that Shravan has a Chachu to see his pain. He has a mother to listen her voice. He has a father to save and restore respect.

But Suman has nobody. The only man she thought understood her has gone away too i.e Shravan. She loved him too. She too went against her family for him. She didn't back out until it went out of control.

Her mother is no more, her father is martyred.

Her left over family members don't love her the way Shravan's love him. He atleast is loved by his friends and family. They are proud of him being a captain.

Since Suman has come I haven't seen anybody say "I am proud of you."

My heart feels really bad when she fumbles, or gets uneasy with Vikram. She just tries so hard to be his friend. She wants a closure, but everything has dented her bad enough that she can't stand anyone.

So, just as you all can see how much PAIN Sharavn is going through, see Suman's as well. It ain't less.

Completely agreed with both of you @raahiyaan & @nancy56

Originally posted by: nancy56

Yeah, I agree with you cent percent.

We should accept that Shravan is also a bit in his delusional land. Blaming Suman left right and centre. Why cant people see that Shravan has a Chachu to see his pain. He has a mother to listen her voice. He has a father to save and restore respect.

But Suman has nobody. The only man she thought understood her has gone away too i.e Shravan. She loved him too. She too went against her family for him. She didn't back out until it went out of control.

Her mother is no more, her father is martyred.

Her left over family members don't love her the way Shravan's love him. He atleast is loved by his friends and family. They are proud of him being a captain.

Since Suman has come I haven't seen anybody say "I am proud of you."

My heart feels really bad when she fumbles, or gets uneasy with Vikram. She just tries so hard to be his friend. She wants a closure, but everything has dented her bad enough that she can't stand anyone.

So, just as you all can see how much PAIN Sharavn is going through, see Suman's as well. It ain't less.

@ Bold : I wish in all these years Shravan understood this part and her guilt if he undertood her pain in yesterday's episode for losing Vijay (it felt out of the blue) . He actually very much saw her guilt when she cried helplessly in front of Vijay's Photo on the day of his demise. She said sorrys and even yelled at Shravan that 'She couldn't meet even hug her dad and he has came to give safaai of his dad'. I agree she thrashed talk about their Relationship and her "Zindagi barbaad ho jaati tumhare saath" hit really hard. Bohot bura laga , toh I can imagine what Shravan must have felt. But looking at Suman's state of mind , indirectly, her life did got destroyed for choosing Shravan in a moment when she had no idea She will lose her father in the next moment.

Itne saalo baad he remembers her promises of "said done sealed" Promises of "I can't leave without you" "We will stand by each other in every step". But one of the biggest thing that has played a part in the build up of their separation is Suman going against everyone just for Shravan.

I still wished his anger and biterness towards Suman was only related to the Relationship, and the way she broke his heart.

Originally posted by: raahiyaan

@ Bold : I wish in all these years Shravan understood this part and her guilt if he undertood her pain in yesterday's episode for losing Vijay (it felt out of the blue) . He actually very much saw her guilt when she cried helplessly in front of Vijay's Photo on the day of his demise. She said sorrys and even yelled at Shravan that 'She couldn't meet even hug her dad and he has came to give safaai of his dad'. I agree she thrashed talk about their Relationship and her "Zindagi barbaad ho jaati tumhare saath" hit really hard. Bohot bura laga , toh I can imagine what Shravan must have felt. But looking at Suman's state of mind , indirectly, her life did got destroyed for choosing Shravan in a moment when she had no idea She will lose her father in the next moment.

Itne saalo baad he remembers her promises of "said done sealed" Promises of "I can't leave without you" "We will stand by each other in every step". But one of the biggest thing that has played a part in the build-up of their separation is Suman going against everyone just for Shravan.

I still wished his anger and bitterness towards Suman was only related to the Relationship and the way she broke his heart.

So yeah, if Suman is wrong in hating the Malhotra's left right and centre, then Shravan is also wrong in not introspecting her pain at a fragile time.

Originally posted by: nancy56

When the post leap thing started, I thought that people are going to be more bent towards Suman's pain. But looks like her harsh words have made things go on a more blind side. But we need to understand that the reason for her extra harshness results from extra pain. It's like having nobody to love you, to support you. Shravan had his parents to turn to, he had his inner world, it was disturbed, no doubt, but at least it wasn't destroyed or dead.

italics- yeah he should have remembered the last part. The completely changed Suman, just for Shravan. When she did the unthinkable.

Bold- True, the delusion wasn't far fetched. I liked the way CVs built up the hatred because this is a possible situation logically. When you kinda read your father's last letter, where he sounds a bit disappointed, when you remember your last meet with him- in which you actually ignore him big time- because of your own childishness and relation which was meant for your own happiness and not for your family, you may go and break it. And the cherry on the cake is that the guy you fell in love with- is the son of the man who is being accused. What more they want?

I guess, Suman was fine to move away and at least get angry on Shravan, when her father's last rites were being performed and Shravan was literally talking about his own father (who is obviously responsible for negligence if not all of it). Yeah, Shravan showed a bit maturity in telling her that let's talk later, but oh boi! the final straw was broken.

So yeah, if Suman is wrong in hating the Malhotra's left right and centre, then Shravan is also wrong in not introspecting her pain at a fragile time.

Agreed with everything. Thank you for saying this.

I don't think people understand the depth of guilt. The thing is if Suman had lost Vijay without her ignoring him, without her eloping with her boyfriend, without her going against him, without her putting efforts to make things right between Vijay and Devraj only to know that Devraj is possibly the culprit. Things could have been different. Way different.

One thing that i feel is that even if it is other employees were the ones that were negligent and responsible for faulty vests, it doesnt absolve devraj of the culpability. Hes the boss of the company. Unfortunately if his employees are guilty of producing substandard quality products, then a small amount of blame does lie with him too. So everything he "suffered" in terms of jail or his personal reputation is the cost for him having even an indirect part in the death of vijay tiwari.