What went wrong with EK's plan - A Case study

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Posted: 4 years ago
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After reading through EK's initial IV during KZK2 launch, on how she is scared to launch her shows in prime time slots and latest Eri's IV on how 20yr-old theme will not work now, I decided to do an exercise on the shows that were running on Starplus at 8pm before KZK2 aired. Starting from November 2016 to September 2018, 4shows were aired and none of them could cross the 200mark. And if we go back further by 2years, from 2014, only 2 shows, Ek Hasina Thi(216 episodes) and Siya ke Ram (326 episodes), crossed the 200 mark. The 8pm SP audience were not anymore patient enough to sit through more than 300episodes for a show and to add to it, the Colors show at the same time was already ruling the charts. EK should have taken these factors into consideration before booking the time slot for 2years and that too for a reboot show, which itself had its own risks. Because, even with KZK2, till 200 episodes the TRP was almost consistent. So, instead of planning for a 500-600episode show, she should have limited it to 300-350 episodes, especially when she had nothing to show instead of repeating shaadi, kidnapping, hospital, police station etc. Instead of rinsing and repeating tracks, she could have easily showed the same ending (if her plan was to kill KomoJaj this season) within 350 episodes, with a very crisp and planned writing. If not, she should have atleast ended the show with Sneha's birth, which happened around the 380th episode. KomoJaj would have been still alive and she could have come with a next season or spinoff sometime later, if she was so particular in showing story of KauKii and Sneha as Basus. Because, except for Aamna as Komolika and the new faces, the leap didn't do any good to the trio's character(Anu, Prerna & Bajaj) & the respective actors, PH, channel or viewers. Instead, the trios character was butchered further and all 3actors got disappointed. The actor's and viewers could have been spared from all this torture and EK wouldn't have had to face the disappointments & losses she had to face in the post lockdown phase, had she not been the ziddy woman she is. 🤦🏻‍♀️

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Agree with you.

We ourselves had decided na, for us show ended with Sneha's birth itself? We weren't expecting a happy ending to this show with AnuPre living a happily married life.

So, if AnuPre ending was decided before itself, then they could've given proper story, and focus on AnuPre.... But no, its very clear, they hadn't planned for this ending, they were planning for more ruining of the characters to establish bajaj with Prerna gradually even if Pre didn't fall in love with him. A cordial relationship and Sneha coming to bajaj house etc., etc., so with this not just 500-600 but more episodes were estimated I guess. I may be wrong.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Res..

Would need to corroborate my ideas with some facts..

Shall take a while..

Great thread BTW, Grace..👍🏼

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Posted: 4 years ago
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I haven't read the post but replying based on the thread title. Ekta went wrong right at step 1 i.e. selecting appropriate actors, especially leads. Though I am not at all impressed with any aspect of the leads but actors playing leads would have made slight sense if it was a show where it was all about friends and masti and some lighy hearted fun (though Prerna made me cringe when she over did her act every time she tried to act cute n all).

For a show that supposedly need characters to grow and attain a certain level of maturity, lead actors failed miserably to emote and build connection with the audience. Based on my experience here on IF whatever support was extended was mostly because of fans and not because of what was going om screen.

Also, for other characters the actors selected were highly experienced and knew what their craft well. Therefore, it didn't take much of an effort for them to over shadow leads. That became a problem as CVs had no other way to delibrately ruin the other characters to somehow keep leads relevant in the show because it wasn't difficult for leads to get lost in the background when such powerful performances happened in some of the scenes (rare but some actors did give some great scenes). Just because leads could not perform, that made CVs to not let other actors who could.

Wish they had lead actors who could act or at least learned while the journey. This has to be the first show where lead actors became worst in terms of acting as the time went by.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: Discolights

I haven't read the post but replying based on the thread title. Ekta went wrong right at step 1 i.e. selecting appropriate actors, especially leads. Though I am not at all impressed with any aspect of the leads but actors playing leads would have made slight sense if it was a show where it was all about friends and masti and some lighy hearted fun (though Prerna made me cringe when she over did her act every time she tried to act cute n all).

For a show that supposedly need characters to grow and attain a certain level of maturity, lead actors failed miserably to emote and build connection with the audience. Based on my experience here on IF whatever support was extended was mostly because of fans and not because of what was going om screen.

Also, for other characters the actors selected were highly experienced and knew what their craft well. Therefore, it didn't take much of an effort for them to over shadow leads. That became a problem as CVs had no other way to delibrately ruin the other characters to somehow keep leads relevant in the show because it wasn't difficult for leads to get lost in the background when such powerful performances happened in some of the scenes (rare but some actors did give some great scenes). Just because leads could not perform, that made CVs to not let other actors who could.

Wish they had lead actors who could act or at least learned while the journey. This has to be the first show where lead actors became worst in terms of acting as the time went by.

Super post as i agree each and every word of yours. If proper screen space would have been given to other character actors both the leads should have been forgotten by the audience. Ekta ruined her own show for these undeserved leads in all aspects.
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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: Discolights

I haven't read the post but replying based on the thread title. Ekta went wrong right at step 1 i.e. selecting appropriate actors, especially leads. Though I am not at all impressed with any aspect of the leads but actors playing leads would have made slight sense if it was a show where it was all about friends and masti and some lighy hearted fun (though Prerna made me cringe when she over did her act every time she tried to act cute n all).

For a show that supposedly need characters to grow and attain a certain level of maturity, lead actors failed miserably to emote and build connection with the audience. Based on my experience here on IF whatever support was extended was mostly because of fans and not because of what was going om screen.

Also, for other characters the actors selected were highly experienced and knew what their craft well. Therefore, it didn't take much of an effort for them to over shadow leads. That became a problem as CVs had no other way to delibrately ruin the other characters to somehow keep leads relevant in the show because it wasn't difficult for leads to get lost in the background when such powerful performances happened in some of the scenes (rare but some actors did give some great scenes). Just because leads could not perform, that made CVs to not let other actors who could.

Wish they had lead actors who could act or at least learned while the journey. This has to be the first show where lead actors became worst in terms of acting as the time went by.

"Don't judge a book by it's cover" this saying can be applied here. TM hasn't made this thread regarding this topic. You better read it first.😆

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: Eri-Kavana

"Don't judge a book by it's cover" this saying can be applied here. TM hasn't made this thread regarding this topic. You better read it first.😆

I think I'd say the same for your reply on my post "Don't judge the book by it's cover". I hope you read my post before replying because I have clearly mentioned I have only replied based on the topic not the thread. Topic is about what went wrong and for all of us there could be several different factors that led to such a miserable show and I expressed my views. You do not have agree with me and my reasons 🙂

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: edkvf

Super post as i agree each and every word of yours. If proper screen space would have been given to other character actors both the leads should have been forgotten by the audience. Ekta ruined her own show for these undeserved leads in all aspects.

I really wish either the show had some skilled actors playing the leads or the CVs just got actors for other character who weren't at the top of thier game. Except leads almost every actos gave their best even if their characters were ruined like anything just to keep leads relevant enough.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Gracy, what EK was thinking that EK only knows.

She gave more importance to establishing a love triangle which failed miserably twice.

Story is something that she should have focused more.


From my POV, the show would have shut long back if not for leads and the supporting cast as well. No character was shaped well after 200 episode mark but the actors still gave their best. I, for one, stuck around only cause of Parth and I wasn't even his hardcore fan a year back. I am now💕💕💕💕💕

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Posted: 4 years ago
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I said it earlier and will say it again?main problem is inability of ekta and her team to understand star crossed lover concept.

They tried to start a beautiful and innocent lovestory of normal boy and normal girl with absolutely no past baggage.Everything was beautiful with the start.

But then ekta failed to understand that to continue rail ki patri concept,third angle is not necessity.

There were zellion of practical problem between anupre which could never let them together like their financial status difference,mohini and veena conflict,anu and pre different approach for life ,anupre decided to sacrifice with mutual understanding to support their family and list continue.

But by going to ekta love for drama,dhaga marriage great concept.it actually gave kzk much needed success.After end of komo1 track,separation of anupre due to above mentioned reasons and pre struggle to make an identity of her own.

Even premarital pragnancy could have been dealt in much better way.lije pre coming in front and saying yes she is pragnant and she is not ashamed of it.She will give birth and raise her child with her head held high

But no cvs bring a misfit character and try to fit him in every possible way except for organic way.

Ekta believed that nostalgia for previous bjaj is enough for bjaj and bapre acceptance which is absolutely not possible.Thats when the entire calculation according to itv std went wrong,bjaj character is biggest nightmare for kzk.his character was not accepted by audience and ekta could not accept it.

Finally sp pressure for trp,ekta obsession for iconic(not deserving) and rail ki patri concept,constant Butchering of anupre in this process,continuous neglect of subplot like tapur Mahesh (Mahesh was interested in tapur),shivi 's finance.

So in the end ekta got gems like parth and Erica who did amazing job.But ekta never actually utilised their potential .

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