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Posted: 4 years ago

Originally posted by: KootyPai

It was like washing your dirty laundry in public. She could have confronted Raman personally before going to national television to insult him.


Raman has done similar things time and again as well though. At Mihir-Trisha’s sangeet, he danced with Shagun in front of everyone before he danced with Ishita just to humiliate Shagun. Even when he had the misunderstanding about Mani, he made a speech to taunt Ishita in front of the world. So I guess both have done this mistake.

But I really liked seeing Ishita’s outburst though. I would have been just as angry as her if I were in her situation. What made it problematic was the fact that it happened on TV and Ishu made a point to go there just to humiliate him. I get that the reason the writers did that was to reopen Ruhi’s custody case but there could have been a different way to handle that. Maybe it would have been better if she happened to bump into him somewhere and then she snaps at him and unleashes her anger on him. And maybe she does so unknowingly at the wrong time, cuz Raman happens to be with the social worker reviewing Ruhi’s case. The social worker gets a wrong impression and asks to reopen the custody case. Just my opinion.


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Posted: 4 years ago

I feel the official downfall of YHM started with Mani's track. Firstly Mani Ishu's friendship seemed super fake to me. So forced! And that ILU to ManiWho says that dude? Imagine Ruhi listening to all that instead of Raman. How bad she would have felt hearing that her Ishimaa can leave her husband and children for Mani..Doesnt matter how pure your intentions are,that would definitely give all wrong signals to your male friend.CVs realised they messed it up big time. So to make the ground even for both the characters,they made Raman misbehave with Ishita that night. And the most hilarious part was the patch up. Like for real!? They ended all of that with a stupid nok jhok.

I so so wish we had a Ishra love realization track without the involvement of Shani or any other third party for that matter. Till this track they did a good job in showing all the phases of their relationship perfectly. First as parents to Ruhi,then understanding each other, becoming friends, falling in love..Just realisation was kinda mehh! Does anyone know of any fan fiction about IshRa's love realisation without the involvement of any third person like Shani/Shagun?

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Posted: 4 years ago

Originally posted by: Aditii


Raman has done similar things time and again as well though. At Mihir-Trisha’s sangeet, he danced with Shagun in front of everyone before he danced with Ishita just to humiliate Shagun. Even when he had the misunderstanding about Mani, he made a speech to taunt Ishita in front of the world. So I guess both have done this mistake.

But I really liked seeing Ishita’s outburst though. I would have been just as angry as her if I were in her situation. What made it problematic was the fact that it happened on TV and Ishu made a point to go there just to humiliate him. I get that the reason the writers did that was to reopen Ruhi’s custody case but there could have been a different way to handle that. Maybe it would have been better if she happened to bump into him somewhere and then she snaps at him and unleashes her anger on him. And maybe she does so unknowingly at the wrong time, cuz Raman happens to be with the social worker reviewing Ruhi’s case. The social worker gets a wrong impression and asks to reopen the custody case. Just my opinion.


Lol yes! Dancing with Shagun was totally unnecessary. However I disagree about the speech part though. I felt that was totally fair. Anyone in Raman's place would misunderstand Ishita. She did some really stupid things. Yes he should have confronted Ishita about this. But he really was too scared to hear Ishita's answer. What if on confrontation,Ishita said that she really loves Mani. He couldn't hear that. So couldnt confront her. I was supporting Raman in that track throughout, only when he misbehaved with Ishita in the bedroom, he lost my support. Totally unnecessary that was! 🤢

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Posted: 4 years ago

Originally posted by: KootyPai

Lol yes! Dancing with Shagun was totally unnecessary. However I disagree about the speech part though. I felt that was totally fair. Anyone in Raman's place would misunderstand Ishita. She did some really stupid things. Yes he should have confronted Ishita about this. But he really was too scared to hear Ishita's answer. What if on confrontation,Ishita said that she really loves Mani. He couldn't hear that. So couldnt confront her. I was supporting Raman in that track throughout, only when he misbehaved with Ishita in the bedroom, he lost my support. Totally unnecessary that was! 🤢


Ok I see where you are coming from. In that track, I didn't really take sides but felt that it was all a misunderstanding due to the nature of their relationship (neither of them accepting that they were in love like a normal couple). See, I’m not married so I don’t know what are the boundaries regarding spouses being friends with the opposite sex so forgive me if I’m ignorant about that. Plus I’ve grown up in the US watching shows like Private Practice, 9-1-1, Grey’s Anatomy, Friends, and Brooklyn 99 where I’ve seen married people have close friendships with people of the opposite sex so I have a different cultural context.

When Mani entered into the show, we saw Ishu spend lots of time with him. I can understand this because they have met after a long time. She is as comfortable with him as she is with Bala. I found the same kind of comfort level and flirtatious attitude between them. Maybe if they had shown some backstory of Mani and Ishu, then it would have been easier to understand how important or unimportant of a friend he was.

Many are of the opinion that Ishita was neglecting her husband by spending excess time with Mani. But the day that Mani invited her to his house party, she had asked Raman to come along. On the phone she had said that "I haven’t asked for some everlasting love, I’m only asking you to accompany me to my friend’s place like how I accompany you to your friends’ parties." And Raman had said no. I don’t remember what exactly he had said but it was a refusal to come. I know he was going through some inner confusion about his feelings at the time, but from Ishita's point of view, it seemed as though she had wanted to include him but he said no. So she stopped trying to include him as he didn’t like that.

There is also the thing about her running to Mani for every problem she had. That was OTT, I’ll admit. Mani's presence wasn't justified in every situation, like in the hospital cabin with the doctor when Ishu fainted. But many times it wasn’t that Ishu called him and asked for help, it was rather he happened to call or be there and ended up helping (navratri puja, gas cylinder). Her going to Mani to solve Romi-Sarika’s problem was also too much. I understood her reasoning as to why she didn’t tell Raman; she did same thing when she spied on Suraj to get back Raman’s presidentship. At that time she took Mihir and Romi’s help. This time she could have taken Mihir’s help as well or anyone else from the family. But we have to remember certain qualities of Mani that allows him to deal with the situation better than other family members. 1) He was a more powerful businessman at the time; he actually recommended Raman for the Asia business council head position. 2) He was a stranger to Romi and sometimes it takes a stranger to get through to someone when family doesn’t (usually cuz family can get taken for granted sometimes). However, I do not defend Ishu’s secretive behavior with her changing Mani’s name to Manisha and lying to Raman about being in the clinic when she was actually with Mani. That was not right. Even if she needed Mani’s help, she could have included someone with her. Ideally she should have solved the problem with Raman and could have just asked him to not forgo the Asia business council head position. But even if she was going to hide it from Raman, then she should have included someone else from the family.

So in my opinion, I do agree that Ishita did some things that she didn't think through (that I wouldn't do in her place), but they weren't anything too unrelatable for me or too far from her character sketch. Especially when you consider that at this time, Ishita wasn't aware that Raman was in love with her. Maybe she had accepted somewhere in her heart that she was in love with him, but she didn't think so for Raman. She knew that he cared for her and respected her, and maybe even loved her somewhere but as the mother of his child and as a friend/companion. She didn't know that he was in love with her as a husband would be with his wife.

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Posted: 4 years ago

Originally posted by: KootyPai

I feel the official downfall of YHM started with Mani's track. Firstly Mani Ishu's friendship seemed super fake to me. So forced! And that ILU to ManiWho says that dude? Imagine Ruhi listening to all that instead of Raman. How bad she would have felt hearing that her Ishimaa can leave her husband and children for Mani..Doesnt matter how pure your intentions are,that would definitely give all wrong signals to your male friend.CVs realised they messed it up big time. So to make the ground even for both the characters,they made Raman misbehave with Ishita that night. And the most hilarious part was the patch up. Like for real!? They ended all of that with a stupid nok jhok.

I so so wish we had a Ishra love realization track without the involvement of Shani or any other third party for that matter. Till this track they did a good job in showing all the phases of their relationship perfectly. First as parents to Ruhi,then understanding each other, becoming friends, falling in love..Just realisation was kinda mehh! Does anyone know of any fan fiction about IshRa's love realisation without the involvement of any third person like Shani/Shagun?

Bold: I 100% agree.

Red: I really didn't mind her saying "I love you Mani." As I mentioned in another post, growing up in a different country gives me a different cultural context so friends saying that they love each other is normal to me. What didn't work was when she joked about leaving Raman and Ruhi for him. That was unacceptable.

Green: This is what they continued doing throughout the show. They first butcher one character, and then to level the playing field they butcher the other. Think of the surrogacy track where they butchered Raman, and right after, they brought the Bhoot track which butchered Ishita. The heights of madness was when they butchered both characters for Shagun!

Blue: This has been my biggest complaint ever with YHM -- not giving proper resolution to tracks they start and losing the character sketches in the process. If they would have kept the essence of IshRa alive throughout, then I would be ready to tolerate any other BS thrown our way like Shagun and Shani.

Italics: It's so sad that the most beautiful phase of their relationship was where the CV's couldn't pull through. We didn't get a proper love realization phase with internal monologues (especially for Raman), any emotional confession (the one we saw came at a time when it was just a formality), or any long IshRa-centric romance track that would naturally come for a couple who has just realized their love. The confession should have happened as a resolution to the Mani track and they should have become a normal couple (sharing a bed and all) before Adi even came into the Bhalla house.

Underline: My favorite are stories on Wattpad by the user Veedeeann. She is also on India forums by the name Veeann. She has one story where IshRa confess their love after the accident track called "It happened one night." Then one that gives another ending to the Mani track called "Dooriyan." Then one that happens after the episode where Ishita brings a drunk Shagun home and Ashok comes there to take her back. That one's called "Biwi ho tum meri."

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Posted: 4 years ago

Originally posted by: Aditii


Ok I see where you are coming from. In that track, I didn't really take sides but felt that it was all a misunderstanding due to the nature of their relationship (neither of them accepting that they were in love like a normal couple). See, I’m not married so I don’t know what are the boundaries regarding spouses being friends with the opposite sex so forgive me if I’m ignorant about that. Plus I’ve grown up in the US watching shows like Private Practice, 9-1-1, Grey’s Anatomy, Friends, and Brooklyn 99 where I’ve seen married people have close friendships with people of the opposite sex so I have a different cultural context.

When Mani entered into the show, we saw Ishu spend lots of time with him. I can understand this because they have met after a long time. She is as comfortable with him as she is with Bala. I found the same kind of comfort level and flirtatious attitude between them. Maybe if they had shown some backstory of Mani and Ishu, then it would have been easier to understand how important or unimportant of a friend he was.

Many are of the opinion that Ishita was neglecting her husband by spending excess time with Mani. But the day that Mani invited her to his house party, she had asked Raman to come along. On the phone she had said that "I haven’t asked for some everlasting love, I’m only asking you to accompany me to my friend’s place like how I accompany you to your friends’ parties." And Raman had said no. I don’t remember what exactly he had said but it was a refusal to come. I know he was going through some inner confusion about his feelings at the time, but from Ishita's point of view, it seemed as though she had wanted to include him but he said no. So she stopped trying to include him as he didn’t like that.

There is also the thing about her running to Mani for every problem she had. That was OTT, I’ll admit. Mani's presence wasn't justified in every situation, like in the hospital cabin with the doctor when Ishu fainted. But many times it wasn’t that Ishu called him and asked for help, it was rather he happened to call or be there and ended up helping (navratri puja, gas cylinder). Her going to Mani to solve Romi-Sarika’s problem was also too much. I understood her reasoning as to why she didn’t tell Raman; she did same thing when she spied on Suraj to get back Raman’s presidentship. At that time she took Mihir and Romi’s help. This time she could have taken Mihir’s help as well or anyone else from the family. But we have to remember certain qualities of Mani that allows him to deal with the situation better than other family members. 1) He was a more powerful businessman at the time; he actually recommended Raman for the Asia business council head position. 2) He was a stranger to Romi and sometimes it takes a stranger to get through to someone when family doesn’t (usually cuz family can get taken for granted sometimes). However, I do not defend Ishu’s secretive behavior with her changing Mani’s name to Manisha and lying to Raman about being in the clinic when she was actually with Mani. That was not right. Even if she needed Mani’s help, she could have included someone with her. Ideally she should have solved the problem with Raman and could have just asked him to not forgo the Asia business council head position. But even if she was going to hide it from Raman, then she should have included someone else from the family.

So in my opinion, I do agree that Ishita did some things that she didn't think through (that I wouldn't do in her place), but they weren't anything too unrelatable for me or too far from her character sketch. Especially when you consider that at this time, Ishita wasn't aware that Raman was in love with her. Maybe she had accepted somewhere in her heart that she was in love with him, but she didn't think so for Raman. She knew that he cared for her and respected her, and maybe even loved her somewhere but as the mother of his child and as a friend/companion. She didn't know that he was in love with her as a husband would be with his wife.

More than the ILU even I was pissed off of the fact that she could casually joke about leaving Ruhi and Raman. Then changing the name from Mani to Manisha..That was so unlike Ishu. Remember the Ek Duje Ke Vaaste sequence,when ishita tells Prateek that she's with Raman. It was past midnight,and she was with some other man. Still she didn't hesitate to tell her fiance the truth. Even Raman asks her why she didn't tell lie..Then she says she doesn't lie to anyone unnecessarily. That was what Ishita was supposed to be.

Regarding their friendship, I didn't find it convincing at all. It could be because of the way Mani's character was written may be. I couldn't imagine someone who didn't care when his friend was getting into a compromise marriage,suddenly getting worried about her marital life..

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Posted: 4 years ago

Originally posted by: KootyPai

More than the ILU even I was pissed off of the fact that she could casually joke about leaving Ruhi and Raman. Then changing the name from Mani to Manisha..That was so unlike Ishu. Remember the Ek Duje Ke Vaaste sequence,when ishita tells Prateek that she's with Raman. It was past midnight,and she was with some other man. Still she didn't hesitate to tell her fiance the truth. Even Raman asks her why she didn't tell lie..Then she says she doesn't lie to anyone unnecessarily. That was what Ishita was supposed to be.

Regarding their friendship, I didn't find it convincing at all. It could be because of the way Mani's character was written may be. I couldn't imagine someone who didn't care when his friend was getting into a compromise marriage,suddenly getting worried about her marital life..

bold: yup. You’re right about this. Her honesty was one of the virtues that made Raman see her in a different light.

underline: this is why I would have wanted to see more backstory to their relationship. It would have been more digestible.

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Posted: 4 years ago

Originally posted by: Nichuss

ishraru shopping epsd aagaya?

Tomorrow is the shopping episode. You might want to start watching:)

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Posted: 4 years ago

Originally posted by: KootyPai

Tomorrow is the shopping episode. You might want to start watching:)


ys ys ys.... thank u for informing me.... i lov ths epsd

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Posted: 4 years ago

YHM started 82 months ago. Damn. ❤️

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