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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: libran90

Sweety, Bani is thinking logically only. From her point of view she is. Aakesh is Veer and Veer is Aakesh. He is capable of doing all that he did back then. But as I had pointed out before, Veer is a more refined version of Aakesh. Veer is Aakesh but still, Veer is different. And she is seeing Veer from the point of view of Naageshwari who was let down by Aakesh. So she is right only.

We cannot expect her to differentiate between past and present when she is not even aware of their personalities in the present. For her Veer and his brothers are thugs, goons, criminals, which to some extent is true. But that is just a part of their personality. Other aspects are yet to be shown, as she starts living with these boys then only can she differentiate between past and present, then only can she leave the past behind and not judge Veer and his family by past actions.

We think Bani has a massive logic failure in her brain. But if we think from her pov, she is not completely wrong. Balwant too is hunting and killing Nagvanshis based on what happened to Aakesh only na. But we will not feel bad if Balwant does such things, because in our mind he is a villain. But we will feel bad if Bani does these things because she is a heroine and we expect different.

Balwant and Bani are heads of clans who are trying to protect their own, and unfortunately, both are being played as pawns as well to someone else's tunes. Both are the same, yet both are different. Then comes Veer, who is neutral and who can actually turn the game upside down and save both of them.

Let's see how the story goes ahead. Yes, Veer is Aakesh's reincarnation & Aakesh was already killed by Naageshwari in Satyug, on top of that Veer is yet to recall his past life memories. Naagins kill others only when they are wronged. But Veer has neither killed Jay nor Noor, and he hasn't done anything to harm Bani either, that's why her reason of killing Veer even after knowing that Jay is alive is too stupid. Even Bela deeply regretted killing others when she found out that Vikrant is alive but Bani is even more motivated to kill the Cheels, especially Veer who is about to save her life for the second time and will go on protecting her every freaking time. Anyway, all depends on what the makers want to show.
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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: _NINA_

Exactly For once she needs to understand the things. She have to realize what is happening around her. She needs to open her eyes.

I don't want her to suddenly fall in love with veer but at least ek second k liye hi veer ki positive side k barey main soch tu sakhti haina.

The way Bani hates the Cheels & is all charged up to kill them, it will take her light years to change her perception regarding Veer. Aur dus hazar saal lag jayenge Adi Naagin ko.
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Posted: 5 years ago
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I also felt the revenge drama is baseless. But from naagins perspective it is completely fine.

Actually there are lots of flaws in every character of nagin 5 whether its veer or his family and obviously bani.

Why ponky daksh and monil killed noor? (It is not yet clear that who's killer. Noor murder is still mystery. But when veer asked monil ponky and Daksh they kept mum)

Why balwant and Singhanias are involved in the business of women smuggling or sex trafficking?

Why veer was using women just like an object before meeting bani?

Just like we are ignoring these loopholes. We should ignore this too.

But yes you right this revenge drama is not right at the end. So she should realise before it's too late.

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: _NINA_

Originally posted by libran90

I for one after a lot of thinking feel that human logic and moral does not apply here. Think from the POV of a Cheel or a Naagin. Why did the Cheels kidnap, traffick, and kill so many Nagas and Naagins, Adi Naagin's parents? - simply to eliminate threat, which for them is Adi Naagin.

Bcoz Cheels are emotion less but Naagin has emotions.

Cheels are conditioned to think that they don't feel emotions. Otherwise, Veer would not feel emotions like love or remorse? Balwant would not feel fear for his son? These are emotions as well. In fact, I feel, that all brothers are closet emotional individuals which is a reflection of the toxic masculinity present in that household thanks to Ballu.

That same rule applies here in Bani's case as well. Bani is eliminating threat before it even thinks of attempting any attack on her, her lover, and her people. She is thinking like the Adi Naagin of Sheshvansh. So, if Cheelraj can do it, so can Adi Naagin.

I m ok with her intentions. She has a right to think about herself. But at least once she should feel guilty for killing deer but no she did not. So in that case She and Balwant are not different both are being selfish for them and their loved ones.

I know as a female lead, we expect her to be above the rest. But that is why this season is different. Here everyone is shown to be grey and selfish, some with even darker shades. Bani will not feel remorse as of now. She is too blinded by the past. But does not mean she won't later. But then feeling remorse will not be enough, she will have to rectify herself and go through hell for that. Infact, it's only after she hits a rock bottom to this mindless quest, then can she rise up to be the Adi Naagin she is meant to be.

Since we want Bani and Veer to be together, we may abuse the hell out of Bani, but in Bani's mind, she is doing what she is trained to do. Doing a surgical strike in enemy territory. So that what happened 10,000 years ago is not repeated. They are natural enemies. Period.

My point is that she is Adi Naagin. She should at least for once think wisely without thinking about her past. She should realize what is happening around her.

Jaise Samudra Manthan hua tha na, samajh lo ki ye Bani ka aatma-manthan hai, first she will have to cleanse herself of the "halahal" of her past which is happening by the vitriolic hate releasing from her which will be followed by "amrit", which will be the best of Bani. And we have to wait for that to come.

Veer is the exception here, who in my opinion is revolutionary. Leek se hatkar chalna easy nahi hai, and he has exactly done that. Loving the enemy, that too your natural enemy, isn't easy and that is what makes him capable of giving a new face to a seemingly evil Cheel clan. I mean he is the Ram of this twisted Ramayan after all, he will be different.

Veer is definitely unique one. He can't hate bani.

He is the Shiv to Bani in every sense. Shiv lived in Shamshaan, among ghosts, deep in meditation, and loved living in Prakriti. He loved every form of his Gauri, everything - be it her ferocity or her beauty. Veer is like that only. He loves every aspect of Bani. He is a cheel who finds beauty in death and shamshaan. He will stick by Bani no matter what. He will be there with her at her worst and definitely, he deserves to be at her best.

Infact, it's our Naagin who is actually backdated, sticking by the rules of her Naagvansh, and she hasn't even thought of anything different other than Cheel raj. Both are the heads of their clans, they are doing right by their clans. Keeping enmity intact. But love is something which creeps into the most stone-cold hearts like light in the darkest corners.

Bani may not know her hidden enemies in the Cheel clan or Naga clan, but she isn't devoid of love. Seeing Veer do what no other Cheel will do for her, Bani will have to be stirred and moved from within. Veer is so shamelessly and unabashedly in love with Bani, that it does not matter that she hates him. He loves her that's it. And soon Bani will too.

I want her to use her brain and think that who is actually using her and who actually loves her.

See, till now nothing as such has happened to actually trigger Bani to see the Cheels or anything else lucidly and in a different light. Thanks to Jai, he himself has triggered his downfall by attacking Bani. And with Veer taking this attack on himself, it will give Bani the pause meant to be given. She has to understand that how much ever she tries Veer will not hurt her but will end up hurting himself in the process.

And in between, she will have to face betrayal, loss, pain and go through this "aag ka dariya" to finally allow Veer's love to consume her completely.

That day will come soon

Yes, it will.

So I would simply say, when we watch TVD or The Originals, these very evil creatures do the most vile things and we still love them right. Good vs Evil isn't exactly the deal here. It is like Bad vs Very Bad or Bad vs Evil. These creatures will go to any extent to one-up each other and when the time comes, they will also come together to help each other. So, relax and enjoy.

Aisa nhi hai that i don't like bani or I m not connecting with her character. But i want her to come out of her lover thoughts and look around. She needs to understand that who wants to harm her and who wants to protect her.

We are all expecting Bani to come out of her bubble and smell the coffee. Geeta main kaha hai na Krishna ne, "Krodhat bhavati sammohah, sammohat smriti vibhramah, smriti bhramasad buddhi naso, buddhi nasat pranasyati." This means that anger causes people to take wrong decisions, and wrong decisions create misunderstandings, and misunderstandings make a person lose their ability to think. And the person who cannot think gets lost in the illusions of the world. This is exactly the problem with Bani. This makes her so prone to manipulation. God help her.

Btw I m really enjoying watching N5. And also like to read your reviews

Same here. I am enjoying myself too. Thanks @_NINA__😊

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Posted: 5 years ago
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I know girl, but it is Adi Naagin's journey and we have to wait and watch.

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Posted: 5 years ago
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In yesterday's episode Mayuri referred to Veer as "sabse zyada takatvar", and this Naagfani (that's what I heard) makes Veer even more powerful & could possibly kill him. Why do I feel that Veer is actually stronger & more powerful than Bani ? Yes, Bani has got a lot of powers but maybe Veer isn't any less than her in any way that's why the negative characters are using Veer to kill Bani.

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: forest_foliage

Let's see how the story goes ahead. Yes, Veer is Aakesh's reincarnation & Aakesh was already killed by Naageshwari in Satyug, on top of that Veer is yet to recall his past life memories. Naagins kill others only when they are wronged. But Veer has neither killed Jay nor Noor, and he hasn't done anything to harm Bani either, that's why her reason of killing Veer even after knowing that Jay is alive is too stupid. Even Bela deeply regretted killing others when she found out that Vikrant is alive but Bani is even more motivated to kill the Cheels, especially Veer who is about to save her life for the second time and will go on protecting her every freaking time. Anyway, all depends on what the makers want to show.

I agree with all your points. But in her mind, Bani feels she is justified. Har shaitani cheel ka ant karna hai usko. To aisi matibhram aurat ko koi kya samjha sakta hai behen. Aise log to sirf laath khane ke baad hi sikhte hai. To sikhne do na usko. Achche se seekhegi tabhi to apne "Sarvashresth Adi Naagin" ke role ko justify kar payegi.

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: libran90

I agree with all your points. But in her mind, Bani feels she is justified. Har shaitani cheel ka ant karna hai usko. To aisi matibhram aurat ko koi kya samjha sakta hai behen. Aise log to sirf laath khane ke baad hi sikhte hai. To sikhne do na usko. Achche se seekhegi tabhi to apne "Sarvashresth Adi Naagin" ke role ko justify kar payegi.

Naagin's hierarchy keeps on changing with every season. Naagrani se upar Maha Naagrani, aur ab aayi hai Sarvasreshth Adi Naagin. Waise thoda sa logical hi hai, it's important to know how the ichchhadhari Naag & Naagins came into existence. This season is so fresh & the concept so far has been explored nicely. Aage bhi aisa hi ho yahi umeed hai.
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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: libran90

I know girl, but it is Adi Naagin's journey and we have to wait and watch.

yep let the time decide what has written in vanis journey (I mean cvs in this case😆) and if she is wrong at some point there will be some consequences too and she has to undergo that difficult phase. Atleast I've faith on cvs that they will show some realisation track in future where she'll also suffering the same pain which veer is going through now. Only then the lovestory between a nagin and cheel will became eternal.❤️
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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: Manu_986

yep let the time decide what has written in vanis journey (I mean cvs in this case😆) and if she is wrong at some point there will be some consequences too and she has to undergo that difficult phase. Atleast I've faith on cvs that they will show some realisation track in future where she'll also suffering the same pain which veer is going through now. Only then the lovestory between a nagin and cheel will became eternal.❤️

True!

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