Naagin 5 - Take 5

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Heya people, I am back with my take on tonight's episode. I don't know about others but the episode was mazedaar for me. It might not be a powerful episode of sorts, but it was an episode that gave insight into the Cheels, Naagin as well as Half Nag Jai. Okay, without ranting much, here goes my take.

Highlights (Good..only Good)👍🏼

Bani's transformation - So, as we saw confusion thoda door huya. The Cheel brothers accepted they killed Noor and buried her, which is what she wanted to know. And then she comes into her true form - her Adi Naagin form. Surbhi nailed it as Naagin. Honestly, unlike other naagins, their fury and rage, which feels very OTT, Bani as a Naagin is subtle and controlled in her expression of fury. The way she kills those brothers - there is confidence, there is ruthlessness, there is anger, but not OTT. For once, I like Naagin. In other seasons, the naagin has always been filled with rage and revenge, and the expression was like they will eat that person alive. Bani impressed me very much as the subtle yet fierce naagin. But yes, Bani as usual misunderstands Veer, which is not wrong. He did help in the burial. So would be difficult for her to "love" veer. Easier to "hate" him, I guess.

Cheel "reaction" - I don't know about you guys, but I found that scene hilarious.😆 I mean the lack of remorse over the death of a fellow brother, is something very expected of the Cheels. I know many felt that Veer's reaction was ridiculous, knowing that he does feel remorse. But guys, you are forgetting. His remorse is triggered whenever he meets Bani. Any emotion he feels is when Bani is near him - be it remorse, love, obsession, happiness, anything. Bani personifies Veer's emotion. So when Bani is not around, in my opinion, he reverts back to his Cheel conditioning to not feel a thing. Infact, none of the people in that house felt anything. Only Shukla was crying, that too for sons who actually would kill him also if it was necessary, as they said during their confrontation with Bani.

Jai's memories - I know many did not like that the Aakesh tune was played when Jai was recollecting his past. But I have another question. How is it that he remembers Aakesh showing Naageshwari's face on the blade. He wasn't even there when the conversation happened, provided he is Hriday. In fact, the Hriday and Naageshwari meeting and interaction was also from a third-person POV, not from his POV. I don't know if you guys get me, but the way his memories were replaying in his mind, it was like a third person watching that scene happen, or a person being a part of what happened. I may be wrong, it is completely my opinion, but when Hriday and Naageshwari's moments were being played out, it looked like as if he was watching it happen like Aakesh did. And when Aakesh and Naageshwari scenes were playing out, it seemed like it happened with him, like it happened with Aakesh. Nice twist in the tale it would turn out if it is happening the way I am thinking.

Observations & Symbolisms:

The Love Triangle - They are giving equal weight to Bani with Jai and Bani with Veer. But Jai and Bani together are like water with water, ek dusre me ghul mil jaate hai. And Veer and Bani are like fire and water, both can consume each other and both can give each other the necessary balance. Also, one more thing I feel is since they are trying to show two love stories working out, I think they will focus on the human aspect of Bani and Jai, and the supernatural aspect with Veer and Bani. See, Bani knows she is a Naagin, but she cannot really reveal it to Jai, because she thinks he is human, and not a Nag. As a human, she is very comfortable with Jai, but jab tak Jai does not know how to transform into a Nag and what issue he has on full moon nights, he is a human only. And Bani will always have to hide that aspect of her personality. Much like the quintessential Naagin meets human-like other seasons.

In Veer and Bani's case, they can show that they are their true selves, their supernatural identities. I really like the honesty factor of their relationship. Bani already knows Veer is a cheel, and Veer has doubts she is a Naagin. As per tomorrow's episode, Bani does not assume her Naagin form, because Jai was there, and probably Veer may think that which Naagin does not confront her mortal enemy, the Cheel. But then will Veer give up so easily? He definitely asked his brothers to look for the Naagin visible in the Cheel's eyes, but they did not see Bani, only Veer saw Bani. And if any one brother finds Naina again, and Bani comes to save again and this time Veer is present or alert, then he will surely come to know that Bani is a naagin. And I feel Veer should come to know that Bani is a naagin. That will have real fire between them. Dushmani and Mohabbat in the same frame. Barabari ka pyaar aur barabari ki takraar. I think aisa hi hoga. I have mentioned this before also, but frankly, Aakesh never cared who Naageshwari was, he just wanted her for himself. The same goes for Veer too. Veer's indifference to their brothers' death and him talking of humbly dying at the hands of a beautiful Naagin, just reinforces that. He comes to know Bani is a naagin, and he will grow further obsessive, possessive, sanki and sarphira for her. Also, Bani cannot help but not talk about Veer and his idiosyncrasies. Cannot ignore such an overwhelming character, can you Bani. 😉And another possibility that could take shape is Veer blackmailing Bani to obey him or marry him. Bani will have no choice but to listen to Veer, so that her own people or clique, including Jai, don't get hurt.

Laal chunri - Ye ghise pite normal drama ke trope fantasy fiction me kyun ghusaati hai EK maiyya, seriously. Differs according to every POV, but from this scene what I gathered is Bani and Jai come together out of their sheer attraction for each other, Bani chases Jai for some time, but then woh khud hi palla chudaake Veer ko saunp deti hai, and Veer usko apne saath bahut majbuti se baandh leta hai, taaki woh usko chod ke kabhi kahin na jaa sake. That is the only thing I gathered here.

Ek Paheli Leela? Has anyone seen this movie? Those who have can exactly guess what I am trying to imply here. Aksar when reincarnations happen, situations usually reverse for the soul or character involved. The same goes for Bani, Jai, and Veer. In this movie, the character in the present life remembers his past life, but actually he turns out to be the villain of the past, not the hero. The girl meets, falls in love, and marries a character who actually remembers his past and turns out he was the hero, not a villain. So you guys can understand what I am saying. Who knows what can happen here.

Tapish and Meera - I would say these are the only 2 clueless humans here. Tapish does not seem to be a cheel to me. And he and Meera are respective confidants of Bani and Veer, I think. So there is a high chance inka koi scene bane, after Bani and Veer of course.

Well, enough of my ranting. Do share your views here. 😊

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Well I personally didn't like that sequence much when Veer was shoving alcohol down his uncle. It's hard to even have any sympathy for the cheel clan with the way they're behaving. Absolutely ridiculous 😂



Bani isn't feeling anything with Jay touch now waiting for Veer to touch her to see if she will get the flash? Maybe during the Kurban Hua dance sequence? Veer and Bani scenes are always more grand and sizzling while Jay and Bani are subtle and sweet for the first time today I didn't mind them much at all they were sweet and lovely.

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Hello Loved ur analysis. But I think show is running like frontial mail. Ek scene here and another their. I just loved the concept that all leads are supernatural powerful Naags and Powerful cheel. I don't care who is going to be paired in end and I am not even looking for any logic in show only I want is jabardast takkar when they all are supernatural creatures their fights scene should be powerful that's why I didn't like that easy death of 2 cheels itni aasani se to kisi series mein Naagin ne insaan ko nahi maara jitni aasani se aaj un dono cheelon ko maar daala may I was expecting little more good fight no problem abhi aur cheel bacche hain.

I don't care ki Jai aur veer mein se kaun negative hai ya kaun positive kaun bani ka hero hai kaun villian. Dekho doodh mein se dhul kar to humari heroine bhi nahi aayi hai kaise aasaani se khaane ke apni human behan ko bata rahi thi ki usne 2 cheelon maar daala jaise roz ka kaam ho to male leads se milky white hona expect karna bhi moorkhta hai. I only want ki agar cheel aur naag hain to kam se kam ek strong fight between Jai and veer as cheel and naag. want them to show their powers as supernaturals.

Few things I liked

Bani's transformation and anger

Veer ki neck moments

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Nice take n nice observation about jay getting aakeswari flashes

Even i have one to add..jay also got fb of aakeswari killing herself with knife

He already died na how he got to know that girl gave her life for him🤔

Ya i liked episode i missed vani but its ok to push the story they should give equal chances to both pairs n this week mohit did good job compared to last week but still in bani room while jay telling about his feelings i felt he could have do better nw im sure he will improve further by next week

I hope today they will give vani centric episode 😍

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: libran90

Heya people, I am back with my take on tonight's episode. I don't know about others but the episode was mazedaar for me. It might not be a powerful episode of sorts, but it was an episode that gave insight into the Cheels, Naagin as well as Half Nag Jai. Okay, without ranting much, here goes my take.

Highlights (Good..only Good)👍🏼

Bani's transformation - So, as we saw confusion thoda door huya. The Cheel brothers accepted they killed Noor and buried her, which is what she wanted to know. And then she comes into her true form - her Adi Naagin form. Surbhi nailed it as Naagin. Honestly, unlike other naagins, their fury and rage, which feels very OTT, Bani as a Naagin is subtle and controlled in her expression of fury. The way she kills those brothers - there is confidence, there is ruthlessness, there is anger, but not OTT. For once, I like Naagin. In other seasons, the naagin has always been filled with rage and revenge, and the expression was like they will eat that person alive. Bani impressed me very much as the subtle yet fierce naagin. But yes, Bani as usual misunderstands Veer, which is not wrong. He did help in the burial. So would be difficult for her to "love" veer. Easier to "hate" him, I guess.

Cheel "reaction" - I don't know about you guys, but I found that scene hilarious.😆 I mean the lack of remorse over the death of a fellow brother, is something very expected of the Cheels. I know many felt that Veer's reaction was ridiculous, knowing that he does feel remorse. But guys, you are forgetting. His remorse is triggered whenever he meets Bani. Any emotion he feels is when Bani is near him - be it remorse, love, obsession, happiness, anything. Bani personifies Veer's emotion. So when Bani is not around, in my opinion, he reverts back to his Cheel conditioning to not feel a thing. Infact, none of the people in that house felt anything. Only Shukla was crying, that too for sons who actually would kill him also if it was necessary, as they said during their confrontation with Bani.

Jai's memories - I know many did not like that the Aakesh tune was played when Jai was recollecting his past. But I have another question. How is it that he remembers Aakesh showing Naageshwari's face on the blade. He wasn't even there when the conversation happened, provided he is Hriday. In fact, the Hriday and Naageshwari meeting and interaction was also from a third-person POV, not from his POV. I don't know if you guys get me, but the way his memories were replaying in his mind, it was like a third person watching that scene happen, or a person being a part of what happened. I may be wrong, it is completely my opinion, but when Hriday and Naageshwari's moments were being played out, it looked like as if he was watching it happen like Aakesh did. And when Aakesh and Naageshwari scenes were playing out, it seemed like it happened with him, like it happened with Aakesh. Nice twist in the tale it would turn out if it is happening the way I am thinking.

Observations & Symbolisms:

The Love Triangle - They are giving equal weight to Bani with Jai and Bani with Veer. But Jai and Bani together are like water with water, ek dusre me ghul mil jaate hai. And Veer and Bani are like fire and water, both can consume each other and both can give each other the necessary balance. Also, one more thing I feel is since they are trying to show two love stories working out, I think they will focus on the human aspect of Bani and Jai, and the supernatural aspect with Veer and Bani. See, Bani knows she is a Naagin, but she cannot really reveal it to Jai, because she thinks he is human, and not a Nag. As a human, she is very comfortable with Jai, but jab tak Jai does not know how to transform into a Nag and what issue he has on full moon nights, he is a human only. And Bani will always have to hide that aspect of her personality. Much like the quintessential Naagin meets human-like other seasons.

In Veer and Bani's case, they can show that they are their true selves, their supernatural identities. I really like the honesty factor of their relationship. Bani already knows Veer is a cheel, and Veer has doubts she is a Naagin. As per tomorrow's episode, Bani does not assume her Naagin form, because Jai was there, and probably Veer may think that which Naagin does not confront her mortal enemy, the Cheel. But then will Veer give up so easily? He definitely asked his brothers to look for the Naagin visible in the Cheel's eyes, but they did not see Bani, only Veer saw Bani. And if any one brother finds Naina again, and Bani comes to save again and this time Veer is present or alert, then he will surely come to know that Bani is a naagin. And I feel Veer should come to know that Bani is a naagin. That will have real fire between them. Dushmani and Mohabbat in the same frame. Barabari ka pyaar aur barabari ki takraar. I think aisa hi hoga. I have mentioned this before also, but frankly, Aakesh never cared who Naageshwari was, he just wanted her for himself. The same goes for Veer too. Veer's indifference to their brothers' death and him talking of humbly dying at the hands of a beautiful Naagin, just reinforces that. He comes to know Bani is a naagin, and he will grow further obsessive, possessive, sanki and sarphira for her. Also, Bani cannot help but not talk about Veer and his idiosyncrasies. Cannot ignore such an overwhelming character, can you Bani. 😉And another possibility that could take shape is Veer blackmailing Bani to obey him or marry him. Bani will have no choice but to listen to Veer, so that her own people or clique, including Jai, don't get hurt.

Laal chunri - Ye ghise pite normal drama ke trope fantasy fiction me kyun ghusaati hai EK maiyya, seriously. Differs according to every POV, but from this scene what I gathered is Bani and Jai come together out of their sheer attraction for each other, Bani chases Jai for some time, but then woh khud hi palla chudaake Veer ko saunp deti hai, and Veer usko apne saath bahut majbuti se baandh leta hai, taaki woh usko chod ke kabhi kahin na jaa sake. That is the only thing I gathered here.

Ek Paheli Leela? Has anyone seen this movie? Those who have can exactly guess what I am trying to imply here. Aksar when reincarnations happen, situations usually reverse for the soul or character involved. The same goes for Bani, Jai, and Veer. In this movie, the character in the present life remembers his past life, but actually he turns out to be the villain of the past, not the hero. The girl meets, falls in love, and marries a character who actually remembers his past and turns out he was the hero, not a villain. So you guys can understand what I am saying. Who knows what can happen here.

Tapish and Meera - I would say these are the only 2 clueless humans here. Tapish does not seem to be a cheel to me. And he and Meera are respective confidants of Bani and Veer, I think. So there is a high chance inka koi scene bane, after Bani and Veer of course.

Well, enough of my ranting. Do share your views here. 😊


@Red: Can you please explain this part to me.. kuch samaj nai aaya!!


PS lovely analysis as always libran!

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Originally posted by: kapoormenka

Hello Loved ur analysis. But I think show is running like frontial mail. Ek scene here and another their. I just loved the concept that all leads are supernatural powerful Naags and Powerful cheel. I don't care who is going to be paired in end and I am not even looking for any logic in show only I want is jabardast takkar when they all are supernatural creatures their fights scene should be powerful that's why I didn't like that easy death of 2 cheels itni aasani se to kisi series mein Naagin ne insaan ko nahi maara jitni aasani se aaj un dono cheelon ko maar daala may I was expecting little more good fight no problem abhi aur cheel bacche hain.

Thanks, dear. Appreciate it.😊 I agree that the combat of two powerful clans should be powerful. But I don't think they were very powerful cheels. Bani is Adi Naagin. She is the most powerful Sheshvanshi naagin, so going by that, I don't have a problem. But I don't think she still understands the magnitude of her powers. That will develop slowly over time. And since this is a finite series, they will attempt to show more so that they can come to the main crux, the love and revenge of a Cheel and Naagin. Let's see how they proceed.

I don't care ki Jai aur veer mein se kaun negative hai ya kaun positive kaun bani ka hero hai kaun villian. Dekho doodh mein se dhul kar to humari heroine bhi nahi aayi hai kaise aasaani se khaane ke apni human behan ko bata rahi thi ki usne 2 cheelon maar daala jaise roz ka kaam ho to male leads se milky white hona expect karna bhi moorkhta hai. I only want ki agar cheel aur naag hain to kam se kam ek strong fight between Jai and veer as cheel and naag. want them to show their powers as supernaturals.

Naagin kab se innocent hone lagi. Woh to hoti hi hai dangerous and ruthless. Male lead me se ek to already kameena hai, but the other one is a little too simple. Something is strangely wrong with him. I want to know what is the story behind his handicap of not transforming into a Nag. Let's see.

Few things I liked

Bani's transformation and anger

Veer ki neck moments

👍🏼

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: vardhinirosid

Nice take n nice observation about jay getting aakeswari flashes

Thanks, @vardhinirosid. Appreciate it.😊

Even i have one to add..jay also got fb of aakeswari killing herself with knife

Exactly, ye bhi. Jab ye hua tha, tab to dono Aakesh aur Hriday mar gaye the. To isko kaise pata. Kya Hriday mara tha ya nahi?

He already died na how he got to know that girl gave her life for him🤔

Ya i liked episode i missed vani but its ok to push the story they should give equal chances to both pairs n this week mohit did good job compared to last week but still in bani room while jay telling about his feelings i felt he could have do better nw im sure he will improve further by next week

Phir se ye double standards mujhko samajh nahi aate. Waise to she has a problem with badtameez Veer, but then she is okay with loitering outside at midnight with Jai. I mean she met both of them on the same day, right? Veer isn't trustworthy I get, but what has Jai done till now to be trusted so easily? He is technically still a stranger.

I hope today they will give vani centric episode 😍

I am not sure they will. But let's see.

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Originally posted by: IfritAmbrose

but when Hriday and Naageshwari's moments were being played out, it looked like as if he was watching it happen like Aakesh did. And when Aakesh and Naageshwari scenes were playing out, it seemed like it happened with him, like it happened with Aakesh. Nice twist in the tale it would turn out if it is happening the way I am thinking.

@Red: Can you please explain this part to me.. kuch samaj nai aaya!!


PS lovely analysis as always libran!

See, when the memories were flashing in Jai's mind, he saw Naageshwari, Aakesh and Hriday. He also saw Naageshwari stabbing herself to death. Firstly when Naageshwari and Hriday scenes played, it looked like koi third person dekh raha ho, jaise ki hum dekh rahe hai. And when Naageshwari and Aakesh scenes were played, it looked like he was part of the scene and doing it himself. Hriday and Naageshwari ka scene aise chal raha tha mano koi aur inko dekh raha ho, jaise ki Aakesh. And Aakesh aur Naageshwari ka scene aise dikh raha tha mano Aakesh khud khada ho and ye scene ho raha hai uske saath. Infact, how can Hriday remember Aakesh and Naageshwari blade scene when he was not present. Also, as @vardhinirosid pointed out when Naageshwari stabbed herself, both Aakesh and Hriday were dead, so how can he have flashes of that memory. Which means that Hriday wasn't dead? Or Aakesh wasn't? Jai's memory flashes are confusing and make me doubt him further.🤔

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I don't think the flashbacks sequences matters since this is all a desi show trick. In many shows I watch dream sequences always come in FL and ML flashbacks even though that wasn't their dream.

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Originally posted by: libran90

See, when the memories were flashing in Jai's mind, he saw Naageshwari, Aakesh and Hriday. He also saw Naageshwari stabbing herself to death. Firstly when Naageshwari and Hriday scenes played, it looked like koi third person dekh raha ho, jaise ki hum dekh rahe hai. And when Naageshwari and Aakesh scenes were played, it looked like he was part of the scene and doing it himself. Hriday and Naageshwari ka scene aise chal raha tha mano koi aur inko dekh raha ho, jaise ki Aakesh. And Aakesh aur Naageshwari ka scene aise dikh raha tha mano Aakesh khud khada ho and ye scene ho raha hai uske saath. Infact, how can Hriday remember Aakesh and Naageshwari blade scene when he was not present. Also, as @vardhinirosid pointed out when Naageshwari stabbed herself, both Aakesh and Hriday were dead, so how can he have flashes of that memory. Which means that Hriday wasn't dead? Or Aakesh wasn't? Jai's memory flashes are confusing and make me doubt him further.🤔


Samaj gayi main..thank you for explaining..


Isse toh saaf Zahir ho raha hai soul switching thing..Aakesh ka soul jay mein hai and Hriday ka Veer mein..🤢


And haan woh Naageshwari stabbing herself wala bhi..kuch locha hai Hriday zinda tha tab..yehi hoga.

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