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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: Nova19

Why does the speculation bother him?

His haters claim that media speculation .... It’s not good for his fans to feel jerked around by the ‘will they, wont they’ ....

..... Or maybe the posts aren’t for you and me, they are for his kids and family /friends primarily so they know the truth and aren’t confused about the nature of the relationship....

And of course if nothing else I’m glad he seems to have figured out that letting people speculate wildly about something important you know isn’t true is not the best approach to life in Bollywood.


Everyone need to have circles. First one is for ourselves and our need. Second circle is for near and dear ones, whom we care and look after. Then third circle for society (for celebrities, it could be fans/haters). Interaction with third circle should not go overboard.

If a celebrity keeps saying philosophical stuff all the time, will fans take it? They say, “he is preaching” and move on. Their interaction with their idol is only to an extent. Even celebrity has to gain that detachment. Fans wishing him to be together or critics calling it a PR should not matter him. There is no need to react unless it is harming his first or second circle.

Hritik had to react in Kangana’s case, as it was harming his first (closest) circle. It was damaging his reputation.

Current speculations do not damage his first circle, but may affect the second one (his children). For them, he can as well speak to them and let them know.

What his fans feel, critics comment about his PR... frankly he should not bother. He is not a new comer who is an outsider to the industry or a teenager to feel so insecure about society’s perception on him. At certain age, we know what we are, what others are. Neither we will change our opinion about others on hearsay. Nor others will change their opinion in us, with a hearsay. Let us make peace with what we are, what others are.

He takes so many spiritual lessons, still has not learnt detachment.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: flipfl0p


Hritik had to react in Kangana’s case, as it was harming his first (closest) circle. It was damaging his reputation...

Current speculations do not damage his first circle, but may affect the second one (his children). For them, he can as well speak to them and let them know...

What his fans feel, critics comment about his PR... frankly he should not bother...

He takes so many spiritual lessons, still has not learnt detachment.

This argument just seems a bit circular to me. It was fine for him to react to Kangana because that was damaging his reputation. But the mostly negative reactions of his fans to his situation with Sussanne and the allegations that his PR is using his family for PR...don’t hurt his reputation and therefore he shouldn’t bother? What his fans and critics think about him is the very definition of his reputation. So how do fans thinking he’s milquetoast unable to move on from her waiting for the imminent reunion, while other fans think he is desperately sad milquetoast because she’s sucking the life from him not affecting his reputation? How does critics painting him as everything bad they want to believe he is hiding behind the public facade of a family man using his kids and paying his ex for publicity not affecting his reputation? Of course it affects his reputation. And Sussanne’s. And these are things people say. Lots of people. Disclaimer-I’ve said some negative things myself, so 😳


Third and more seriously and speaking as the mother of two kids. At a certain point as children age they stop automatically believing parents and start listening to friends and people they think are friends. What other people think of them and their place in society starts being much more important. So it’s fine to say, he should just speak directly to his kids -hopefully he has and regularly does. But it’s unrealistic to think they don’t have friends asking what’s up with their parents and hearing/reading their parents are hooking up, hearing their own grandfather say he still hopes they get back together, etc. coupled with the very normal adolescent belief that friends clearly know more than parents* is a setup for them having hope for a reconciliation themselves-even if they’ve been clearly told it isn’t happening.


Finally - on the detachment, I agree 100. True detachment is terribly difficult. What he is saying is what he’s trying to practice and trying to realize and at least he is trying. I think genuinely. BTW I think trying to be detached is what caused a lot of his problems with Kangana. It is very easy to fool yourself into believing you’re practicing detachment when you are really just avoiding conflict (aversion).


*I am currently experiencing this first hand. Pray for me. Please.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: Nova19

.. It was fine for him to react to Kangana because that was damaging his reputation. But the mostly negative reactions of his fans to his situation with Sussanne and the allegations that his PR is using his family for PR...don’t hurt his reputation and therefore he shouldn’t bother?

.. At a certain point as children age they stop automatically believing parents and start listening to friends and people they think are friends.... coupled with the very normal adolescent belief that friends clearly know more than parents* ...

Finally - on the detachment, I agree 100. True detachment is terribly difficult.

It is very easy to fool yourself into believing you’re practicing detachment when you are really just avoiding conflict (aversion).

*I am currently experiencing this first hand. Pray for me. Please.

Not sure. During Kangana’s allegation time threads on Hritik used to go on for 50-100 pages. With Susanne, it does not touch 10 pages. From that I infer, people (fans) do not bother about them (they are together or not). Yes there can be few. But majority have moved on.

Most challenging phase for parents is, kids at teen age. It does not matter, whether it is couple or single parents. In that phase, whether a parent talks to them about a rumour or tweet or just give up, all seem to have the same effect.

Detachment : Earlier I used to take things seriously (whether I confront or not). I have reduced that. My close one’s suggestion, “After 10 years when you look back, will this issue have any significance? If not, why break your head?” This suggestion has saved some energy for me. Try it.

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