Both can plot against each other, but they are each other's destiny - Page 3

Originally posted by: AbhayKapoor12

Yes enjoy the party ! Haha episodes are fun too. It is la land for Rianshians so far!

Oh man i feel bad for u. Youtube mute scenes. How do you even tolerate? Use vpn n take voot?

That was amazing. Symbolism of tamba getting removed from her life! And sindoor fall, duppatta flying has mad fans go crazy not only here, but twitter also!

Cv's can't be trusted but remember in last season , tara and deep pairing was so popular, that they brought the actress in end and united them. This season, it is Riansh who r in demand couple. It will be tragic if they don't end up together! Damn i hated Sanjh . That woman was creep. She went to foreign and even went underwater to see maya and hero . Damn what a creep and they united them. please never do that cv's!

Yeah well I don't have any other options except watching in YouTube for now since there is Voot is not available in Europe and I am not returning to India for a while now... toh as long as I am in Europe, YouTube is my only sahara to catch up serial episodes. Sony and Colours are good as they put episodes in YouTube, Zee shows to but no Star shows available as no HotStar or episodes in YouTube. Anyways, I don't watch much serial unless some gripping plot like 'Byehadh' or I fall in love with a pair like RiAnsh and last mushy-romantic drama attracted me was IPKKND. So, I don't mind much not being able to see much of serial... don't watch them much anyways.

Yes I am really rooting for a dark ending in this IMMJ season too in which Riddhima somehow falls for Vansh in the end and joins his team than leave that Tamba behind... I don't think that Tamba even loves her, I mean who the hell in sane and sound mind sends their girlfriend in a Don's home and ask them to become spy...? Especially when he knows that if she gets caught than she'll be killed and the girl is a civilian with no training to spy or protect herself... that Tamba asking her to do this itself shows just how much he loves her and cares for her *Please note the sarcasm here* . Also when Tamba saw Riddhima on teej after so many days, his eyes went to her sindoor, mangalsutra, kangan, ring and everything... seemed jealous but not too bothered or cared much about her... not once he asked her how she is or about her well-being and coping with the stress or hugged her, bas went on asking for his mission information...

Honestly, if Riddhima had even little bit of brains than she wouldn't have agreed to this whole thing in first place and now seeing the so-called boyfriend for whom taking so much risk caring least about her well-being and more concerned about the stupid mission than she would ditch him... Hell I would have ditched him, aside from the fact Vansh is more handsome and alluring with his intense mysterious personality, at least the guy is straight forward in his own way... heck lot more reliable than that Tamba and given a chance after you prove yourself loyal to Vansh than the man would do just lay the world at your feet if that pleases you... while that stupid Tamba won't do fraction of it, that man is more of taker from you as much as he can and not return a whole lot.

And yes Saanjh was creepy like that yet Maya was tagged jealous psycho... Hell the way Saanjh was cling to Arjun and that Duffer to his so-called Dusky, no wonder Maya went murderous psycho on them. Any normal wife would if someone is abnormally clinging to their husband and getting too involved in their live but who sees that...? No for them it is absolutely normal for Saanjh to follow Arjun-Maya like creep and interfere in their business and antagonize Maya since Saanjh loves so her Duffer so much... while Maya reacts to it and she is pyscho. Honestly that Duffer Arjun deserved that stupid Saanjh, sahi pairing hai after all Saanjh probably boosted his ego because in front of Maya Arjun seemed like the duffer that he really is... only regret in all this poor Maya suffered and wasted her live after a man like Arjun who never valued her or treasured her.

"Both can plot against each other, but they are each other's destiny".

Riansh might be each other's destiny but what if the Both are not Riansh but KaVa? How the hell did Kabir knew today that there is a secret box with a diary which contains the secrets regarding Ragini's fake death? Why I call it fake is bcoz Ragini's entry has been confirmed in the show unless they show us a time loop switching between the flashback & the present time with Ragini being shown on the flashback depicting a chapter regarding VR's past?

I mean I have seen the news on the forum regarding Ragini & her father being killed by Vansh.Knowing Vansh that cannot be ruled out.Neha's murder was certainly not the first one VR committed.As the Mafia he might had a direct/indirect hand in the killings of rival Mafia clans or any civilian/cop who got in the way of his Business operations.

Some have created topics such as Ridima crossed line by her rudeness towards Vansh/Sorry i don't buy Ridhima's lectures .

There were earlier posts too regarding Ridzi's foolishness or her attitude towards VR.In short the fans here want Ridzi to have some common sense & not blindly believe on her lover Kabir.But is it all Ridzi's fault all that I want to ask?

Yes VR is the Mafia so his attitude will have that indifference or arrogant reaction but he's not like any other character guyz.He's the God-damn Mafia.Today also he made it clear that if Ridzi crosses the Lakshman-Rekha then Ridzi is as good as dead in VR's eyes-a casualty.I have not seen any change in VR's behaviour so far.Even I highly doubt that his attraction or words such as SPECIAL/SWEETHEART might mean next to nothing.

Arnav or SSO inspite of being Greys were not cold-blooded Mafias but were cetainly ruthless tycoons.I dont' wanna give a moral lecture here since these are fictional characters but why is Ridzi being targeted here always? I mean who does the girl believe? She's neither a trained spy nor a clever manipulative girl like Ishani.

Why do i get the vibes that every secret is being purposely shown to Ridzi? Kabir suddenly forgets regarding VR's Mafia operations while now concentrating on the murder of an ex-lover Ragini.Ridzi as usual suddenly forgot her primary target of decoding the secrets behind VR's illegal operations & thinks that VR has committed the heinous murder of an ex-lover.What proof does she have that VR committed the murder?

And VR continues to give long-ropes to Ridzi purposely.What if both Kabir & VR are fooling her jointly? This sounds next to impossible but considering that the genre is Thriller anything cannot be ruled out.

And I think that Kabir has sources within the VR Mansion too.It could be Siya or even Aryan not to forget Ishani too.

While its true that Ridzi has that one golden opportunity to escape from the VR mansion but being like Arohi she wanted to put eveything on the line for Kabir & she cannot be fully blamed for it.Its Kabir who manipulated her into doing this.Today also he gave another sweet talk that she's better than the trained soldiers? Really Kabir?

Those Soldiers who protect our country & our countrymen with utmost loyalty are nothing when compared to Ridzi.Is this a joke? I would say that Ridzi had it much easy within the sweet comforts of VR mansion.As the wife of the Mafia she's got limited but certainly easy access to the secrets of VR Mansion.She did her sacrifice but it cannot be compared to the sacrifices made by our brave soldiers.

Getting back to Riansh till VR suspects her there can be no love story unless he gives up his suspicion regarding her.VR goes by the Philosophy of TRUST NO ONE.He does not trust his family members too so why would he trust her? Ridzi is & always will remain either an enigma or a stranger to him as per VR's own words & that's what he likes-toying with her life & feelings.

Even Kabir is doing the same to her.So why blame Ridzi on the forum?

What do u guys expected after VR's cruel behaviour towards her like throwing a knife or purposely getting close to her inspite of her discomfort? Ridzi has said certain uncomfortable but harsh truths regarding VR-

1-He trusts no one.

2-He is afraid to let someone close to his heart/life bcoz of his fear of betrayal.VR lives & thrives on fear itself.

3-He toys with the victims like some kind of an object playing with their lives & emotions & the excuse given is bcoz he's the mafia or he's playing a negative role.So when he's gonna change?

Deep never changed after Arohi's love & while VR's character has got to reveal many sides in the future the most important thing is VR ready to confront himself? Is he ready to deal with his own dark secrets?

Till Kabir is there Ridzi won't even understand her feelings for VR howsomuch ever we ship Riansh bcoz VR refuses to show his nice side to her or send any indirect signals that beneath this hard exterior lives a loner who wants unconditional love.

Even Arohi could understand this thing about Deep perhaps bcoz she spent most of her lifetime with him.

Ridzi won't fall in love till her heart remains with Kabir.Some are telling that Ridzi should think clearly & accept VR but the acceptance can be fake too.Both can start a fake love relationship to further muddy the waters.

VR has clearly indicated today that he's merely tolerating her presence.Now I don't know what to call it? Possessiveness bcoz he's possessive about her or distrust towards her.

Both KAVA have played with her like a toy.One marries her as per his own whims while other leaves her to fend for herself.VR's character might have more depth & appeal compared to Kabir but never forget that at the EOD he's the Mafia after all-a psychotic criminal who does not give a damn about society forget his own country.

Its not entirely her fault that she's getting played here.Sometimes a person howsoever intelligent he/she might be gets entangled in such situations that they don't know whom to trust or rather who is an ally/enemy & that includes Love Affairs too otherwise there wouldn't have been any Savdhaan India/Crime Patrol within the society.

She might be a fictional character but she has her own share of problems too so stop blaming her always.She's neither like Maya nor like Durga.

Originally posted by: masked

"Both can plot against each other, but they are each other's destiny".

Riansh might be each other's destiny but what if the Both are not Riansh but KaVa? How the hell did Kabir knew today that there is a secret box with a diary which contains the secrets regarding Ragini's fake death? Why I call it fake is bcoz Ragini's entry has been confirmed in the show unless they show us a time loop switching between the flashback & the present time with Ragini being shown on the flashback depicting a chapter regarding VR's past?

I have made a post in past that KAVA might be behind Ridhima's supposed inheritance and it is all plot . The thing is we can make 100s of theories on this drama with several plots. He can be former friend of vansh to know about his secrets?

I mean I have seen the news on the forum regarding Ragini & her father being killed by Vansh.Knowing Vansh that cannot be ruled out.Neha's murder was certainly not the first one VR committed.As the Mafia he might had a direct/indirect hand in the killings of rival Mafia clans or any civilian/cop who got in the way of his Business operations.

Neha murder was never clear. We just saw her falling down. It can be third person or most porbably suicide after failing in mission? By the way Ridhima called Ragini's father. don't kniw is it a trap or him?

Some have created topics such as Ridima crossed line by her rudeness towards Vansh/Sorry i don't buy Ridhima's lectures .

I created second one lol

There were earlier posts too regarding Ridzi's foolishness or her attitude towards VR.In short the fans here want Ridzi to have some common sense & not blindly believe on her lover Kabir.But is it all Ridzi's fault all that I want to ask?

Yes it is hers imo. Just because she is in love with tamba, she lost all her senses. Sorry i don't like that!

Yes VR is the Mafia so his attitude will have that indifference or arrogant reaction but he's not like any other character guyz.He's the God-damn Mafia.Today also he made it clear that if Ridzi crosses the Lakshman-Rekha then Ridzi is as good as dead in VR's eyes-a casualty.I have not seen any change in VR's behaviour so far.Even I highly doubt that his attraction or words such as SPECIAL/SWEETHEART might mean next to nothing.

Vansh is consistent with his character sketch. A mafia won't tolerate Ridhima's bs for long. But if Ridhima doesn't stop interfering inside his life, then what should he do? Then she says , you have trust issues. She is hypocrite so far

Arnav or SSO inspite of being Greys were not cold-blooded Mafias but were cetainly ruthless tycoons.I dont' wanna give a moral lecture here since these are fictional characters but why is Ridzi being targeted here always? I mean who does the girl believe? She's neither a trained spy nor a clever manipulative girl like Ishani.

This girl was strong enough to marry when she had chance to run. Wasn't she? Well it depends on everyone's perception of characters. If people find Vansh dumb and wrong, they can post about it too!

Why do i get the vibes that every secret is being purposely shown to Ridzi? Kabir suddenly forgets regarding VR's Mafia operations while now concentrating on the murder of an ex-lover Ragini.Ridzi as usual suddenly forgot her primary target of decoding the secrets behind VR's illegal operations & thinks that VR has committed the heinous murder of an ex-lover.What proof does she have that VR committed the murder?

Ofcourse yeah Vansh is laying traps for her. He is giving chances to come clean but she keeps going deeper into trap! Her fabrications and lack of differentiating between black and white is her proof!

And VR continues to give long-ropes to Ridzi purposely.What if both Kabir & VR are fooling her jointly? This sounds next to impossible but considering that the genre is Thriller anything cannot be ruled out.

And I think that Kabir has sources within the VR Mansion too.It could be Siya or even Aryan not to forget Ishani too.

I have said above, i laid that theory long back! but now we r so involved in riansh, that i hope it is not true lol

Siya and her mother are my biggest suspects as rivals of Vansh! Aryan ishani are too clear imo!

While its true that Ridzi has that one golden opportunity to escape from the VR mansion but being like Arohi she wanted to put eveything on the line for Kabir & she cannot be fully blamed for it.Its Kabir who manipulated her into doing this.Today also he gave another sweet talk that she's better than the trained soldiers? Really Kabir?

Those Soldiers who protect our country & our countrymen with utmost loyalty are nothing when compared to Ridzi.Is this a joke? I would say that Ridzi had it much easy within the sweet comforts of VR mansion.As the wife of the Mafia she's got limited but certainly easy access to the secrets of VR Mansion.She did her sacrifice but it cannot be compared to the sacrifices made by our brave soldiers.

Yup he didn't even ask how she is! Sorry why she acts so dumb in love? -_-. Sorry that irritates me! She can be blamed for it. She gets into someone's life for Kabir. She is an adult who could take right decisions for her and then she preachs about trust, loyalty? sorry it is pathetic.

Yeah i agree. Can't be compared to soldiers!

I will reply to other half of ur post soon

Originally posted by: masked

Getting back to Riansh till VR suspects her there can be no love story unless he gives up his suspicion regarding her.VR goes by the Philosophy of TRUST NO ONE.He does not trust his family members too so why would he trust her? Ridzi is & always will remain either an enigma or a stranger to him as per VR's own words & that's what he likes-toying with her life & feelings.

Even Kabir is doing the same to her.So why blame Ridzi on the forum?

Yes he goes by that philosophy but the thing is the popularity of couple can change the script in demand of the couple like it did for deep arohi. They had to bring Alisha finally. And other thing. Living under same roof, falling for each other makes sense to me.

Ridhima is also playing with so many people's feelings like daadi, who treat like her own kids, she takes their blessings and then use it against their son. Sorry how ridhima gets free pass? She can hurt anyone she wish to? why would her feelings be special?

What do u guys expected after VR's cruel behaviour towards her like throwing a knife or purposely getting close to her inspite of her discomfort? Ridzi has said certain uncomfortable but harsh truths regarding VR-

Because we love story of anti hero and heroine. The knife attack was because he thought she is going to kill his sister. A noraml reaction! Seedhi baat. Who wants a goody goody love story🤣Atleast i don't. See i don't use morals in fiction. I loved vampire diaries , where my fave hero killed innocent humans lol.

-He is afraid to let someone close to his heart/life bcoz of his fear of betrayal.VR lives & thrives on fear itself.

It's normal. Now things is Ridhima can change this with time!

3-He toys with the victims like some kind of an object playing with their lives & emotions & the excuse given is bcoz he's the mafia or he's playing a negative role.So when he's gonna change?

I really want to know how many victims? Neha? Sorry, first i believe he didn't kill her. If he did, it wasd do or die situation! And what gave Ridhima's right to come in his life. Her target was to get into his mansion. She had chance to run. She didn't. So no one is faultless here

Deep never changed after Arohi's love & while VR's character has got to reveal many sides in the future the most important thing is VR ready to confront himself? Is he ready to deal with his own dark secrets

Till Kabir is there Ridzi won't even understand her feelings for VR howsomuch ever we ship Riansh bcoz VR refuses to show his nice side to her or send any indirect signals that beneath this hard exterior lives a loner who wants unconditional love.

You are forgetting the symbolism. Sindoor scene, which felt into her head, then mangalsutra scene. All are hints towards riansh union imo!

I really think we shouldn't compare storyline and character sketch of both seasons. Ridzi will understand , like upcoming hospital scene, where he most probably take care of her. She might find out Kabir's personal grudges against Vansh and find other side of coin. Her stance might start soften for Vansh

Ridzi won't fall in love till her heart remains with Kabir.Some are telling that Ridzi should think clearly & accept VR but the acceptance can be fake too.Both can start a fake love relationship to further muddy the waters.

Her heart is with kabir. but how long? For that we have to wait and watch. heart can change with time! Fake lov trap is easy to be turn into actual love

VR has clearly indicated today that he's merely tolerating her presence.Now I don't know what to call it? Possessiveness bcoz he's possessive about her or distrust towards her.

He says that daily but keep giving her chances. He is doing more than tolerating for supposed mafia. He also asked his right hand man to give respect to her.

Both KAVA have played with her like a toy.One marries her as per his own whims while other leaves her to fend for herself.VR's character might have more depth & appeal compared to Kabir but never forget that at the EOD he's the Mafia after all-a psychotic criminal who does not give a damn about society forget his own country.

Its not entirely her fault that she's getting played here.Sometimes a person howsoever intelligent he/she might be gets entangled in such situations that they don't know whom to trust or rather who is an ally/enemy & that includes Love Affairs too otherwise there wouldn't have been any Savdhaan India/Crime Patrol within the society.

Kabir played her like a toy. She inserted her into Vansh's life . He didn't invite her first. She had the chance to leave, but she chose this path, making a mockery of her marriage. So how is she not faulty here? Second we have yet to see solid proofs of him being criminal. we have seen kabir's version who might turn out to be business rival!

And i have no sympathy for those people too who jumps into fire willingly.

She might be a fictional character but she has her own share of problems too so stop blaming her always.She's neither like Maya nor like Durga.

Hmm to each it's own!

Vansh is consistent with his character sketch. A mafia won't tolerate Ridhima's bs for long. But if Ridhima doesn't stop interfering inside his life, then what should he do? Then she says , you have trust issues. She is hypocrite so far

Yes he's consistent & so was Deep.But she's doing her spy duty now & so its in her interest to twist the facts.She might not be James bond but when ur dealing with a guy like Vansh u have to be on your toes 24/7.

This girl was strong enough to marry when she had chance to run. Wasn't she? Well it depends on everyone's perception of characters. If people find Vansh dumb and wrong, they can post about it too!

This is not some god-damn fan battle between VR & Ridzi.

Ofcourse yeah Vansh is laying traps for her. He is giving chances to come clean but she keeps going deeper into trap! Her fabrications and lack of differentiating between black and white is her proof!

Yes I am on board with this 100%

Yup he didn't even ask how she is! Sorry why she acts so dumb in love? -_-. Sorry that irritates me! She can be blamed for it. She gets into someone's life for Kabir. She is an adult who could take right decisions for her and then she preachs about trust, loyalty? sorry it is pathetic.

Yeah i agree. Can't be compared to soldiers!

Again I agree but then she's preaching the same bcoz of her own view of the world.So why is it pathetic? A Spy is not expected to be loyal to anybody except perhaps his own agency/country if the Mafia is not loyal.And not to forget that unlike VR Ridzi has to struggle all her life to make it on her own today yet VR gets all the sympathy/whitewashed bcoz he's the one for her huh.

Yes he goes by that philosophy but the thing is the popularity of couple can change the script in demand of the couple like it did for deep arohi. They had to bring Alisha finally. And other thing. Living under same roof, falling for each other makes sense to me.

Ridhima is also playing with so many people's feelings like daadi, who treat like her own kids, she takes their blessings and then use it against their son. Sorry how ridhima gets free pass? She can hurt anyone she wish to? why would her feelings be special?

Yes ultimately its the viewers choice along with the TRP ratings which decide the pairing & the story.Season 1 Alisha as Arohi/Tara was everybody's choice & it was the right one.Regarding Ridzi playing with the feelings of other family members what do u expect? Be a dutiful wife or be a gullible lover like Arohi was wilfully facing all the pain inflicted on her yet love the same old person but the Guy could make excuses huh.She's sent to be a spy not be VR's lover if u go by her own POV.

Because we love story of anti hero and heroine. The knife attack was because he thought she is going to kill his sister. A noraml reaction! Seedhi baat. Who wants a goody goody love storyAtleast i don't. See i don't use morals in fiction. I loved vampire diaries , where my fave hero killed innocent humans lol.

Nobody preached morality here.I have seen Vampire Diaries too but there were supernatural characters having grey shades and here we are talking about human beings even if fictional.Know the difference.Its not about goody love story or sanskaari beta but its about the balance between the characters.Lionizing someone bcoz they are grey shaders or ruthless mafias/businessman might be normal but covering up their every damn fault like killing someone/throwing knives at your own wife its plain old simple whitewashing & nothing else.I admire anti-heroes too but I don't like the way his every act is given an excuse of love for the girl.

Then going by that logic even Deep's burning of pregnant Arohi or the other pains he made her gone through were all her fault or even Shivaay's mistreatment of Anika or likewise Arnav's attitude towards Khushi.

Admiration/Adulation cannot be an excuse for the criminal acts done by grey characters like VR & the above characters like Arnav/Shivaay were not even Mafias.

You are forgetting the symbolism. Sindoor scene, which felt into her head, then mangalsutra scene. All are hints towards riansh union imo!

I really think we shouldn't compare storyline and character sketch of both seasons. Ridzi will understand , like upcoming hospital scene, where he most probably take care of her. She might find out Kabir's personal grudges against Vansh and find other side of coin. Her stance might start soften for Vansh

Hope we do see a fruitful Riansh story.

Kabir played her like a toy. She inserted her into Vansh's life . He didn't invite her first. She had the chance to leave, but she chose this path, making a mockery of her marriage. So how is she not faulty here? Second we have yet to see solid proofs of him being criminal. we have seen kabir's version who might turn out to be business rival!

And i have no sympathy for those people too who jumps into fire willingly.

This is not a crime-thriller show like CID or CSI where ACP Pradyumann would tell ki "Kuch Toh Gadbad Hai" or Daya-Darwaza tod do.VR's character sketch & his reactions scream Mafia.Even in the plot it was clearly mentioned that VR is the Mafia.And in one episode of the show it was revealed that VR's father was a Mafia too.

Second we have yet to see solid proofs of him being criminal. we have seen kabir's version who might turn out to be business rival!

Kabir might or might not be his business rival so if he's not the Mafia why was VR selling that cache of diamonds to some Chinese Merchant & that too openly on his party? Who does that? Is that a legitimate activity? And his smuggled gold? Did VR pay customs duty for that?

So yeah its established that VR is the cold-blooded Mafia here and even if he loves Ridzi he's not gonna change his mafia stripes soon.So accept that too.

Originally posted by Abhay Kapoor12

Oh...I totally agree...destiny has got them together even before Kabir was involved, the 360 degree car turn by Vansh and her assertion that its God who leads them onto ultimate path and whilst Vansh keeps insisting thst he has ultimate control of what goes on in his vicinity he forgets he himself told her that if there are repeated meetings than the other person has the abiliity to totally change their life,.cant remember which epi he said it in...but little did he know that Riddima is totally going to change his destiny and vice versa.

Originally posted by: Wynn

Originally posted by Abhay Kapoor12

Oh...I totally agree...destiny has got them together even before Kabir was involved, the 360 degree car turn by Vansh and her assertion that its God who leads them onto ultimate path and whilst Vansh keeps insisting thst he has ultimate control of what goes on in his vicinity he forgets he himself told her that if there are repeated meetings than the other person has the abiliity to totally change their life,.cant remember which epi he said it in...but little did he know that Riddima is totally going to change his destiny and vice versa.

Nice post⭐️