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Posted: 5 years ago
#91

Originally posted by: JPeppers


In Aishwarya's situation, men have always been blamed for everything while she sneakily walked away without any damage to her reputation. Salman and Vivek are still living in the shadows of the foul words Aishwarya accused them of while she very cleverly found the word "Dignified" in the dictionary and created an image of holy saint for herself.

Her modus operandi in all her relationships is the same. First she stays with the man for years and acts all hunky dory (staring into the man's eyes every few seconds by giving fake love filled gazes, extra friendly smiles, flirting in public, giving interviews professing her love for those men). When she is done getting what she wants, she starts her victim drama to get out of the relationship. That's when she starts her accusations and fake acts of victimy behavior...."I was being abused, my boyfriend was immature, my boyfriend was bad, my boyfriend was abusive, my boyfriend was terrible" while she calls herself as "I am dignified, I'm humble, I'm down to earth, I deserve praise for using and dumping men".


Her association with Amitabh Bachchan started in 2004 and it took her 3 years to convince Amitabh to make her his Bahu Rani. Aishwarya is an amazing manipulator who knows how to use people. Bachchans accepted her because Amitabh wanted her. He really liked her. Jaya didn't like her. Abhishek had no say. Amitabh brought her as a daughter-in-law and her close relationship with Amitabh was seen by everyone. She used to hang more with Amitabh than Abhishek. She used to go everywhere with Amitabh scantily dressed and holding his hands, swinging in his arms, hugging him.

Never seen any other actress sharing such a close personal relationship with their father-in-law.


If Aishwarya respected herself, she wouldn't have gone around the block with a new man every year.


Her m.o. in every relationship? You mean every relationship around the world which doesn't last a lifetime? Which would probably be 2/3rds of even all marriagessmiley36. The couple stay together for a few years. The initial time is lovey-dovey. It's called biology. Then, they split up for whatever reason. Even if they do stay together a lifetime, the lovey-dovey part doesn't last more than 2-3 years. Esp if one half is an abusive criminal, the woman has every right to walk out.


The sexless person who doesn't deserve a gender assigned was not abusive? The person who publicly broke a bottle on Somi Ali's head? The same person who gave Aish the black eye? The same person who pretends the buck shot itself and people should not be sleeping on footpaths and deliberately getting under his wheels? The same person who made jokes about raped women? The same person who publicly threatened the Rai family? The abusive person deserves not just to be in the shadows but to be in prison for other crimes committed as well. If there is actually something like karma, that person will eventually experience every bit of the pain inflicted on others before succumbing to death.


So no, Aish didn't do anything to the person. The person did crimes.


What she did was show strength not many abused women would have, especially when faced with someone who was blatantly criminal.


Aish didn't accuse any of the other actual men she was in relationship with of being criminal, did she? She never pretended to be a victim.


Vivek case is a bit more murky. But IIRC, he himself admitted Aish never asked him to make a public spectacle of himself. She didn't want any of it. So? His currently being in the shadows was not her doing, was it? That honor belongs 100% to the sexless abuser. How is she to be blamed for it?


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Oh, please. The Bachchans are not bacchas to be manipulated by a pretty face🤔. I always believed her marriage to be more arranged than anything else, but Abhishek looks quite happy with her. Jaya has an issue with practically every human on earth.


if you have an issue with her arranged marriage, then you have an issue with 80% of Indian women who go for arranged marriages.


Re: her closeness with Amitabh. The comment reveals a sick and twisted mind.


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@red. This reveals more about you than about Aishwarya. The attitude belongs in the last century. Women have freedoms which include freedom to pursue any romantic partner they want. Aishwarya has not done anything unethical with re: romance. One was a youthful fling, the 2nd was an abusive criminal she walked out on, the third was a fool. The fourth, she married, arranged or otherwise.


Buddy, dignity doesn't lie in closing yourself off from the world or in resigning yourself to a bad relationship. Dignity lies in how you conduct yourself even under the worst of circumstances. I dislike her plastic doll persona which she puts out in public, but when push came to shove, she exhibited the kind of emotional strength seldom seen in Indian women. I hate to have said it, but it is the truth. Indian women stick to a bad marriage, put up with physical and emotional abuse, abuse of their children, all in the name of faux dignity. That is not dignity. That is fear of the unknown, fear of not being able to support themselves (lack of education, career, money, family support, etc.), and fear of repercussions from society. Aish walked out on the criminal who was known to have mafia connections, risking her life and the lives of her family, proceeded to live her life successfully. Yes, that shows self-respect, something for which she was willing to risk her safety. Because we have all seen that the sexless abuser was/is willing to end lives.


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Also, what you're saying is you have a problem with her exercising independent romantic choices AND with her arranged marriage. So basically, 100% of womankind. Got it.

Edited by HearMeRoar - 5 years ago
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Posted: 5 years ago
#92

I hear you roar, HearMeRoar .... and it's a very regal roar indeed. 👍🏼

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Posted: 5 years ago
#93

Originally posted by: coldbrew

I hear you roar, HearMeRoar .... and it's a very regal roar indeed. 👍🏼


Thanks. Funny thing is I don't even Iike Aish as actress or as celeb😆.


Her Barbie persona grates on my nerves. I found some of the things she used to say very anti-feminist. When it came to her own life, she was exactly the opposite. She showed a sense of self-worth and a great deal of strength.


I think she did it for her movie star career. We do like our heroines to be virgins. But what message was she putting out there for impressionable teens? I can live life on my own terms (which was as it should have been) but if you go by my words, you better fit into the mold society designed for you? Very irresponsible and self-centered.


Still, I don't see any point in her romantic life that she can be blamed. Except, maybe her poor choices in partners.

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: HearMeRoar


Her m.o. in every relationship? You mean every relationship around the world which doesn't last a lifetime? Which would probably be 2/3rds of even all marriagessmiley36. The couple stay together for a few years. The initial time is lovey-dovey. It's called biology. Then, they split up for whatever reason. Even if they do stay together a lifetime, the lovey-dovey part doesn't last more than 2-3 years. Esp if one half is an abusive criminal, the woman has every right to walk out.


The sexless person who doesn't deserve a gender assigned was not abusive? The person who publicly broke a bottle on Somi Ali's head? The same person who gave Aish the black eye? The same person who pretends the buck shot itself and people should not be sleeping on footpaths and deliberately getting under his wheels? The same person who made jokes about raped women? The same person who publicly threatened the Rai family? The abusive person deserves not just to be in the shadows but to be in prison for other crimes committed as well. If there is actually something like karma, that person will eventually experience every bit of the pain he inflicted on others before succumbing to death.


So no, Aish didn't do anything to the person. The person did crimes.


What she did was show strength not many abused women would have, especially when faced with someone who was blatantly criminal.


Aish didn't accuse any of the other actual men she was in relationship with of being criminal, did she? She never pretended to be a victim.


Vivek case is a bit more murky. But IIRC, he himself admitted Aish never asked him to make a public spectacle of himself. She didn't want any of it. So? His currently being in the shadows was not her doing, was it? That honor belongs 100% to the sexless abuser. How is she to be blamed for it?


_____________


Oh, please. The Bachchans are not bacchas to be manipulated by a pretty face🤔. I always believed her marriage to be more arranged than anything else, but Abhishek looks quite happy with her. Jaya has an issue with practically every human on earth.


if you have an issue with her arranged marriage, then you have an issue with 80% of Indian women who go for arranged marriages.


Re: her closeness with Amitabh. The comment reveals a sick and twisted mind.


_____________


@red. This reveals more about you than about Aishwarya. The attitude belongs in the last century. Women have freedoms which include freedom to pursue any romantic partner they want. Aishwarya has not done anything unethical with re: romance. One was a youthful fling, the 2nd was an abusive criminal she walked out on, the third was a fool. The fourth, she married, arranged or otherwise.


Buddy, dignity doesn't lie in closing yourself off from the world or in resigning yourself to a bad relationship. Dignity lies in how you conduct yourself even under the worst of circumstances. I dislike her plastic doll persona which she puts out in public, but when push came to shove, she exhibited the kind of emotional strength seldom seen in Indian women. I hate to have said it, but it is the truth. Indian women stick to a bad marriage, put up with physical and emotional abuse, abuse of their children, all in the name of faux dignity. That is not dignity. That is fear of the unknown, fear of not being able to support themselves (lack of education, career, money, family support, etc.), and fear of repercussions from society. Aish walked out on the criminal who was known to have mafia connections, risking her life and the lives of her family, proceeded to live her life successfully. Yes, that shows self-respect, something for which she was willing to risk her life. Because we have all seen that the sexless abuser was/is willing to end lives.


_____________


Also, what you're saying is you have a problem with her exercising independent romantic choices AND with her arranged marriage. So basically, 100% of womankind. Got it.


Do you blog? Your views are very well put.


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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: HearMeRoar


Thanks. Funny thing is I don't even Iike Aish as actress or as celeb😆.


Her Barbie persona grates on my nerves. I found some of the things she used to say very anti-feminist. When it came to her own life, she was exactly the opposite. She showed a sense of self-worth and a great deal of strength.


I think she did it for her movie star career. We do like our heroines to be virgins. But what message was she putting out there for impressionable teens? I can live life on my own terms (which was as it should have been) but if you go by my words, you better fit into the mold society designed for you? Very irresponsible and self-centered.


Still, I don't see any point in her romantic life that she can be blamed. Except, maybe her poor choices in partners.


I like some of Ash's movies, not all. I also understand that her off-screen personality isn't everyone's cup of tea. But she had to hold it together amid so much chaos and mess Salman brought in her life, I can't help but sympathize with her.


But when I see all these Salman fanatics burst their vessels over her entire existence, it's just too transparent. smiley36I don't think I'm aware of the anti-feminist statements she's made, I haven't followed her beyond her movies and the infamous breakup here and there. But walking out on Salman and Vivek were hands down the best decisions she ever made for herself.

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: Bekind


Do you blog? Your views are very well put.



Thanks. No, I don't blog. I don't have the patience to do something like that on a regular basis. Plus, I'll get an ulcer if I have to regularly think of all the knuckle-draggers still existing in this world. 😆

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Coming to the topic, I'm pretty sure Vivek also suffered from some sort of knight-in-shining-armor syndrome cuz he couldn't believe that one of the most beautiful women was dating him. He was rising to fame, probably thought he was invincible at the time, and was dating Ash as an icing on the cake. He just couldn't handle the rush and ended up blowing it all up with that press conference.


Which woman would want a clown flailing in the dark on her behalf? You can't blame Ash for having some standards there either. smiley36

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: coldbrew


Friends and foes, this crazy fanatic, JPeppers, tossed off the shackles of his/her mental asylum a couple days ago and has been piloting their delusional hate filled rants straight towards you--for days now!


You will hear any and every situation twisted and turned into a hate-filled propaganda against Aishwarya Rai cuz the blind hatred is just that difficult to restrain. It seeps through each and every post of theirs no matter what the situation.


We invite you to grab some popcorn and watch how long this lasts.


And for those who are about to board the crazy train or have boarded it already, visit mentalhealthtreatment.net for mental health treatment options.


Thank you. 🥳

Just because JPeppers has a lowly opinion of "dignified" Aish doesn't mean you stoop down to personally attacking him/her. This is disappointing!

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: HearMeRoar


Thanks. No, I don't blog. I don't have the patience to do something like that on a regular basis. Plus, I'll get an ulcer if I have to regularly think of all the knuckle-draggers still existing in this world. 😆


If you changed your mind, please let me know. I always skip paragraph posts, but stopped at yours. Maybe think about it👍🏼

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Posted: 5 years ago

Originally posted by: tapori

Just because JPeppers has a lowly opinion of "dignified" Aish doesn't mean you stoop down to personally attacking him/her. This is disappointing!


I wasnt going to say anything


But if we can than I wanna play also 😆

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