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Posted: 5 years ago
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Wait till her roohiafza with Rajkumar rao comes out. That film can do well due to rao but anyways its success credit will go to jhanvi. This is their strategy. Work with good actors in the beginning ,because of them public as well as critics will appreciate the film ,then sideline them and take all the credit for its success like sara did in kedarnath.

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: Sharpener


You make a good point about taking opportunities but surely its the responsibility of the actor to finesse their craft? If I get a job that I'm not qualified for then I would work twice as hard to make sure I do justice to my position. Its hard for directors to get the right lead for the films if the production house aka Dharma wont allow it.


Of course, the actor, director, etc has to deliver but the verdict is on us. If the audience feels they aren't doing a good job, then don't watch their films and hype them. There's so much terrible content out there, no one is forcing you to watch anything.


While producers can be controlling, directors can also take their films to other producers if they feel they aren't getting what they want. Filmmaking is a collaborative process so if a producer is investing money, it's inevitable they'll have a say.

For Raazi, Meghna Gulzar wanted to cast Vicky so she asked Karan to call him. Vicky had no success behind him at that point yet Karan was willing so it is definitely possible even in Dharma.

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: HugeScarcity


Of course, the actor, director, etc has to deliver but the verdict is on us. If the audience feels they aren't doing a good job, then don't watch their films and hype them. There's so much terrible content out there, no one is forcing you to watch anything.


While producers can be controlling, directors can also take their films to other producers if they feel they aren't getting what they want. Filmmaking is a collaborative process so if a producer is investing money, it's inevitable they'll have a say.

For Raazi, Meghna Gulzar wanted to cast Vicky so she asked Karan to call him. Vicky had no success behind him at that point yet Karan was willing so it is definitely possible even in Dharma.


bold: That's a very problematic take on this entire issue--if you don't like it, don't watch it.


No, it doesn't work that way and it's about time someone told you this. Not watching their movies does NOT change the truth of this issue of unrefined nepo kids hogging all the good projects when they haven't even properly hopped out of the play pen.

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: coldbrew


bold: That's a very problematic take on this entire issue--if you don't like it, don't watch it.


No, it doesn't work that way and it's about time someone told you this. Not watching their movies does NOT change the truth of this issue of unrefined nepo kids hogging all the good projects when they haven't even properly hopped out of the play pen.


I never said there wasn't an uneven playing field but the only change we can implement ourselves is to watch the content and talent that we truly want to support. There are many good movies with good talent that release every year. The industry, media, etc needs to change and even the playing field as well but we also have the power to put our money behind who we want.

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: HugeScarcity


I never said there wasn't an uneven playing field but the only change we can implement ourselves is to watch the content and talent that we truly want to support. There are many good movies with good talent that release every year. The industry, media, etc needs to change and even the playing field as well but we also have the power to put our money behind who we want.


but what about when audience watches the content but the reviewers/media don't talk about it? when they're not appreciated? when a nepo product's far inferior products are hailed as masterpieces to gaslight the public? when the insiders run a smear campaign to suppress talent to flourish? and many other unethical and illegal shiz that goes on...


then the same indie directors are hired and then the producers curb the creativity of the team and make them hire their nepo-kids and the cycle continues..


i don't know why people are being so obtuse.. the problem is far deeper than "their money their choice to hire whoever they want"/"if audience support talent, talent will flourish" etc etc etc


last month or so Bollywood's toxicity has been exposed time and time again and yet the same excused are used over and over again to white wash it...


no wonder majority of the products that a country of over a billion population and a huge movie industry comes up with are total trash

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: HugeScarcity


I never said there wasn't an uneven playing field but the only change we can implement ourselves is to watch the content and talent that we truly want to support. There are many good movies with good talent that release every year. The industry, media, etc needs to change and even the playing field as well but we also have the power to put our money behind who we want.


I know that we can choose what we consume and what we don't. Everyone knows that and I have been watching what I want and ignoring what I don't want much before SSR's death. Free will is always there--is that even an argument or a defense against anything being mentioned here?


So when these insidious issues within bollywood are raised, it's very condescending of people like you and some others here to be so flippantly dismissive and tell people like us, HEY if you don't like it, don't watch it! I mean, are you kidding me?!! Is that meant to somehow deflect the discussion on unethical behavior and power abuse? If I hear that one more time, I'm gonna tell them to shove their "advice" up where the sun doesn't shine.

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: Bulbbul_Pandey


but what about when audience watches the content but the reviewers/media don't talk about it? when they're not appreciated? when a nepo product's far inferior products are hailed as masterpieces to gaslight the public? when the insiders run a smear campaign to suppress talent to flourish?


then the same indie directors are hired and then the producers curb the creativity of the team and make them hire their nepo-kids and the cycle continues..


i don't know why people are being so obtuse.. the problem is far deeper than "their money their choice to hire whoever they want"/"if audience support talent, talent will flourish" etc etc etc


last month or so Bollywood's toxicity has been exposed time and time again and yet the same excused are used over and over again to white wash it...


no wonder majority of the products that a country of over a billion population and a huge movie industry comes up with are total trash


Well said and completely agree.


It's definitely much more than "Their money their choice"


If they control every aspect of the film making process and business then they can make or break anyone and it could be done easily with power. That's where the issue lies. How convenient is it to blame the audience.


SSR's movies did become HIts, the audience did watch his movies, yet he had to struggle to fit in to get projects, its only and only coz the power-hungry elitists chose to shun him and sideline him without giving him validation for his work and the paid media tarnished his image with blinds.


when you deliberately don't talk about a movie, make attempts to subdue a movie's success and instead create false hype a trash movie of the star kid then is it not sabotage???? and a big problem with the system.


The system needs to cleanse and change.

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: coldbrew


Is that meant to somehow deflect the discussion on unethical behavior and power abuse?


You ignored Kangeroo's unethical tactics 😆

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: Bulbbul_Pandey


but what about when audience watches the content but the reviewers/media don't talk about it?


Sounds like every Eid last decade. Bhai made some movie and Anupama Chopra made videos on why we shouldnt indulge in this. But we still did 👍🏼

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: Maroonporsche


You ignored Kangeroo's unethical tactics 😆


Between a well-established pack of wolves and one unhinged woman who speaks against them, if you choose to focus on her "unethical" doings and hurl snarky insults at her day in day out ------ all while being a Salman fan AND an apologist for bolly frat club, I am not answerable to you, buddy.


But you're funny once in a blue moon, so don't let me stop you.

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